PipeChat Digest #1289 - Thursday, March 2, 2000
 
Acoustics: "Mainly the padded seats"...
  by "Charles E. Peery" <cpeery19@idt.net>
Fw: Too much stop information
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Aeolian/Estey nomenclature
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Too much stop information
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
"New" Organ Commissioned
  by "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com>
Re: Stop Names and things
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Stop Names and things
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Acoustics: "Mainly the padded seats"...
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Aeolian/Estey nomenclature
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: VERY IMPORTANT - VIRUS WARNING
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: VERY IMPORTANT - VIRUS WARNING
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: "New" Organ Commissioned
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Aeolian/Estey nomenclature
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: "New" Organ Commissioned
  by "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com>
 



(back) Subject: Acoustics: "Mainly the padded seats"... From: "Charles E. Peery" <cpeery19@idt.net> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:36:32 -0400   Hi, friends,   Just wanted to make the comment after opening a $3.5 million dollar auditorium at school: Somewhat dependent on the situation, padded seats = are really no worse acoustically than a hall full of people, since people = bring (or ARE) their own padding! Padded seats would make a difference in the acoustics when the place was empty, but the effect would be to simply make the hall sounds more like it does when it is full. We have found this to = be an advantage, not a disadvantage, since things don't change as drastically from rehearsal to performance.   For what it's worth   Chuck Peery Cincinnati  
(back) Subject: Fw: Too much stop information From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:58:57 -0500   Call me a hopeless romantic, but there's something about the appearence of = a 2, 3 or 4 manual console with that music rack configuration. To change gears somewhat, the Chi-town stadium Barton also had a top-level music rack. In this case, I think they HAD too!   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: <MickBerg@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 1:15 AM Subject: Re: Too much stop information     > <<The old console at Longwood Gardens is beautiful in that, the top of = the > music rack was even with the top of the console. It was sorta like = "sunk" in > there just above the top manual.>> > > My Klann console is the same way, the music desk is "sunk" into the console > directly above the swell manual, and the top of it is even with the top = of > the console. The couplers are all on drawknobs on the side cheeks, no = row of > rockers above the manuals. All rather like a tracker organ. I didn't realise > this for some time, as it had been crudely configured into a = four-manual. Now > it's back to its three manual configuration, and I like it a lot. I'll = be > very loath to part with it, although it's pretty beaten up. > Mick Berg. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian/Estey nomenclature From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:08:37 -0500   Hi Bud- Yer right. It WAS Aeolian, not Estey. My boo-boo. My friend who knows quite a bit about Aeolians, jokes about them cramming = 40 ranks of pipes in broom closets and pantrys. I guess where ever pipes would fit, in they'd go!   The Ringling house in Sarasota- now New College- has a dog house on the = roof with several ranks of pipes. An in-wall tone chute from that followed the staircase down to the ground floor with a grille in the wall at the base = of the stairs. Must have been angelic- sounding. The instrument wasn't = playing in the 70s when I saw it. I understand the instrument is playing now, and Rosa Rio had the pleasure several times of concertizing on it.   Rick        
(back) Subject: Re: Too much stop information From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:34:27 -0500   > From: "Ron & Mandy" <ronwest@spiderweb.com.au> > > it is helpful to have the music in > the position that you can read it and still see the screen.   Ron: Thank you! What was just intuition for me is clearly ratified by = the voice of experience.   Alan    
(back) Subject: "New" Organ Commissioned From: "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:42:45 -0500   Dear List:   The Maranatha Christian Reformed Church in Cambridge, Ontario, Canada, = dedicated its "new" pipe organ on 19 November 1999. Although I was unable to attend the dedication = evening (bummer!), I was able to acquire a copy of the program, a companion sheet on the history of = the instrument, and a copy of the Cambridge Times which carried an article about the organ.   From these sources, much of which I have copied verbatim, as well as from = a couple of phone calls, and with the permission of Henk Oudshoorn, one of the builders, I have = assembled the following report for your information and enjoyment. Many thanks to Charlie van der = Meulen (who built pretty well all of the fa=E7ade and refinished the console) for his corrections = and advice (via follow-up e-mails). And as a special treat for all you "specifications and stop = list" addicts :o) there are a total of THREE stop lists!   In order to avoid endless repetion, be it known that all locations herein = are within the province of Ontario, Canada.   I have copied the stop lists as presented, and readily admit I'm not sure = what all of the abbreviations used therein mean. I have used the languages supplied for = the stop list descriptions, and hope that for the most part this will not present an = impediment. Although Charlie Van der Meulen has e-mail, it hasn't been for long, and he's not = ready to subscribe to the list at this point; however, if anyone has questions, I'm sure he'd be = open to getting answers if I ask him nicely :o).   By the way, I know about this instrument because my mother-in-law attends = this church, and I've had occasion to hear the organ at various stages of its construction, as well = as getting tours of the work in progress, including both the organ chambers and the workshop in = the church basement.   This organ first went into service in the 1920's; it was built by The = Woodstock Organ Company (of Woodstock, Ontario) as one of 147 organs it manufactured and installed in = various churches across Canada. Unfortunately the company existed for only a short eight years; it is not known which = edifice was first graced by this instrument. The size and specification of the first stop list is = unknown.   In 1946 the organ was purchased by the First United Church of Waterloo, = and revised and installed in their church building by the Legge Organ Company of Burford. New pedal = windchests and a new console were added.   Specifications were as follows:   Great -------- Open Diapason 8' Melodia 8' Rohrflute 8' Dulciana 8' Principal 4' Harm.(onic?) Flute 4' 21 note 'Deagan' chime     Swell -------- Violin Diapason 8' Stopped Diapason 8' Viola d'Gamba 8' Celeste T.C. 8' Traverse Flute 4' Cornopean 8' Oboe 8' Vox Humana 8' Aeoline 8' Tremulant     Pedal -------- Major Bass 16' Bourdon 16' Bass Flute 8' Dolce Flute 8'   Full complement of couplers (SIC; don't ask me what it means! -crs)   Number of pipes: 1,080   (personal editorial: I'm still quite new at this, but IMHO the number of = unison stops suggests to me this instrument would have been nicely suited for the leading of = congregational singing. If I'm wrong, let me know! Somewhere in here the organ must have been = decommissioned and put back into storage, but the info I have doesn't say when.)   In 1966 this organ was bought out of storage from Hallman Organs of = Kitchener, and installed in the Maranatha Christian Reformed Church of Galt (now Cambridge). (NB: this = first church building was located on South Street.) Mr. Eric Dewdney, at present organist and choirmaster at Trinity = Anglican Church of Cambridge, was contracted to do the work, assisted by Messrs. Henk = Lindekamp and Henk Oudshoorn, both members of the Maranatha congregation. Mr. Dewdney reworked the = organ drastically and was rewarded with a clean lively blend of sounds which drew praise from many a = visiting minister and guest worshipper. Mr. Dewdney played the dedicatory concert in December = 1966 to a full house.   Specifications of the reworked organ were:   Great -------- Open Diapason 8' Rohrflute 8' Octave 4' Nachthorn 4' Super Octave 2' Mixture 1 1/3'     Swell -------- Stopped Diapason 8' Viola Da Gamba 8' Celeste T.C. 8' Principal 4' Nazard 2 2/3' Flute 2' Tierce 1 3/5' Cornopean 8' Oboe 8' Tremulant     Pedal ---------- Subbass 16' Bourdon 16' Bass Flute 8' Dolce Flute 8'       Full complement of couplers   Number of pipes: 1,113   (Again, my guess, the tonal additions would have brightened the instrument = considerably, at the sacrifice of some of the singing richness. I'm still learning, so shoot me = down if I'm way off base.)   Twenty years passed, and history repeated itself; the Maranatha = congregation had doubled in size, and larger facilities were needed. In a very convoluted exchange of = properties and buildings which I won't go in to, the Maranatha congregation acquired the Forward Baptist = facilities on Elgin Street in 1985. The organ was removed from the South Street building and = put into storage for well over a year, and the existing pipe organ in the Forward church (about = which I have no information beyond this), although not purchased by Maranatha, was used on a loan = basis. That is, until Forward found a buyer for it; the purchaser removed it, and Maranatha = scrounged up a woefully inadeqate Hammond to pinch (pitch?) hit. (Hopefully, not off pitch! = G-R-O-A-N)   Meanwhile, the climate in the storage facility was found to have adversely = affected the condition of the chests, so that a complete overhaul of the instrument became = necessary.   Also, due to the larger size of the new sanctuary and its inherently poor = acoustics, engendered by grooved cinder-block construction (since plastered), carpeted floor, and = padded pews, a larger organ was needed to lead in worship. The present organ is the result of twelve years of = painstaking work by a small but dedicated team of volunteers, headed up by Messrs. Oudshoorn and = Lindekamp (yes, the same individuals that assisted with the first transplant!), and with the = invaluable help of Messrs. Charlie Van Der Meulen and Bill Verboon, among others.   To quote from the Cambridge Times article: "A piano technician and tuner = by trade, Oudshoorn had trained briefly as an organ builder's apprentice. He approached the church = council for approval to do the (rebuilding) work in his spare time and was quickly given the = go-ahead.   "'Murphy's Law was really at work here,' said Oudshoorn. 'It was an = uphill battle all the way. You had to keep trying things over and over. Sometimes you'd try = something twelve times before you got it working. Then you'd think the same solution would work someplace = else, only to find you had to start all over again there. I wouldn't want to do it again, but I did = enjoy it.'" (Hmmm; I don't know whether these problems stemmed from the fact that parts were = scrounged from all over, or from inexperience on behalf of the builders, despite their good = intentions; but I thought it would be impolitic of me to ask. Not that I'm a builder myself, or anything = like that.)   In 1991 the "Positief" section of the organ was completed and = commissioned, and the Hammond was (thankfully!) able to stand down. (Charlie says, "I think that we still = have it; although we were looking for a buyer some time ago, I don't believe anybody wanted it.") = Several years later the Diapason in the "Hoofdwerk" was completed. The organ uses parts from no = less than six other organs, with pieces from Richmond, Simcoe, and Peterborough. Said = Oudshoorn: "We were even able to get some pipes from Galt's Knox Presbyterian after their fire; this = excited me because it was such a great organ." One of the innovations included in the instrument is "an = ingenious slide-mounted keyboard on a suspended pivot that can easily be swung into position for = tuning." (From the included picture, it looks like each rank is wired with a local multi-pin = connector which can be disconnected from the organ's wiring harness and temporarily = connected to the portable keyboard; this allows tuning to be done single-handed.)   A physical description is in order here, I think. When viewed from the = pews, the Positief (which logically translates to Positive) is in a chamber high up and to the left, = and the Hoofdwerk (which roughly translates to Headwork, but which I have since learned is more = accurately translated as "Great") is in a corresponding chamber on the right. The Hoofdwerk, = however, is open on the "inboard" side down a flight of stairs to the original baptismal pool (baptistry?), lower down than the chambers, = centred, and open to the sanctuary. If memory serves, the Quintadeen is situated in this stairwell = on a clever series of descending windchests, fed with ducts of ample size. All the hard = surfaces within the chambers and stairwell provide, to my ears, a healthy "bounce" of sound into the = sanctuary.)   The necessary wind is supplied by three industrial blowers. Their upside = was that they were in excellent shape, and donated, in other words, FREE. The downside was that = special vibration-dampening mountings and sound-muffling boxes had to be = fabricated to quiet down their enthusiastic but unwanted contribution to the overall sound of the = instrument. The Positief is winded with a pair of blowers of 1 HP each, rated at 300 cfm and 6" WG = static pressure; this is regulated to either 3" or 3 1/2" (I was writing this part down quickly = while on the phone) for the positief. The Hoofdwerk and Pedaal are winded with a single 3 HP blower = rated at 900 cfm and 8" static. This is regulated to 4 1/2" for the pedal reeds, and 4" for = the balance of the pedal ranks and the Hoofdwerk. All actions are electro-pneumatic.   The tonal concept is based on that of an organ found in a typical Dutch = village Reformed church from the 1750-1850 period. The very high lead content in the majority of = the pipes is responsible for its warm, vibrant timbre. The organ is now one of the largest in the = city.   Voicing of the instrument was artfully executed by Leslie Smith of Leslie = Smith Organs, located in Fergus, who also holds the tuning contract for this fine instrument.   The specification of the current instrument follows.   Hoofdwerk (Great) -------------------------- Quintadeen 16' Prestant I-II 8' Holpijp 8' Dwarsfluit 8' Octaaf I-II 4' Open Fluit 4' Nazard 2 2/3' Octaaf II 2'-1' Piccolo 2' Terts 1 3/5' Cornet T.G. IV 4' Mixtuur V 2' Trompet 8' Hoboe 8' Tremulant     Positief (Positive) ---------------------- Prestant 8' Bourdon 8' Quintadena 8' Octaaf 4' Gedekt 4' Quint 2 2/3' Fluit Prestant 2' Cornetino III 1 3/5' Scherp IV 1/2' Vox Humana 8' Tremulant     Pedaal (Pedal) --------------------- Contrabas 16' Subbas 16' Octaaf 8' Bourdon 8' Koraalbas 4' Nachthoorn 2' Mixtuur V 2 2/3' Bazuin 16' Trombone 8'     Couplers ------------- Hoofdwerk-Positief Positief-Hoofdwerk Hoofdwerk-Pedaal Positief-Pedaal Hoofdwerk Super-Pedaal Positief Super-Pedaal     (I wonder what the Dutch word for couplers is? It's not in my = Dutch-English dictionary.)     Compass -------------- Manuals 56 Pedaal 32   Number of pipes: 2,424 Number of stops: 34 Number of ranks: 48       Not knowing for sure what a "dwarsfluit" is, and suspecting some people on = the list might not know either, I asked the longsuffering Charlie. He advises, "Een dwarsfluit is = a fluit you often see played in an orchestra. Unlike a recorder or say a saxophone it is held = crosswise or sideways by the musician. In this case the word dwars means sideways.The tone of a = dwarsfluit stop is similar to that of such a flute." (Definitely Dutch, isn't he? But then, so is = my descent.) Hey! would that mean in English it would be called "Orchestral Flute"? ......... = nah, too much of a stretch, Snip! (grin)   Numerous were the times I wished I were part of this project! I am piqued = that I haven't yet heard the completed instrument, and was quite miffed to have missed the = dedicatory recital, billed as "an introductory concert of praise." Dr. John Vandertuin was the featured = recitalist.   The organ solos were:   Grand Choeur in D major Alexandre Guilmant   Toccata in D minor (Dorian), BWV 538 J.S. Bach   Choral Prelude on "Allein Gott in der Hoh sei Ehr" BWV 711 J.S. Bach   Choral Prelude on "Jesu meine Freunde" Dr. John Vandertuin   Choral Prelude on "Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend" Georg Bohm   "Allegro" from Organ Concerto Opus 4, #4 G.F. Handel   "Cantilene" from Sonata #11 Joseph Rheinberger   Toccata in G major Theodore Dubois   Fantasia, Fugue and Chorale on "A Mighty Fortress is our God" Dr. John = Vandertuin     Audience singing included:   "Love Divine, All Loves Excelling" (Hyfrydol) (which I personally love, = and could listen to endlessly)   "Holy God, we Praise Your Name" (Gr=F6sser Gott)   "Rejoice, the Lord is King" (Darwall's 148th)   "A Mighty Fortress is Our God" (Ein Feste Burg)     Hope I didn't bore anyone!   Regards, all!   Carl Snip    
(back) Subject: Re: Stop Names and things From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:46:10 EST   In a message dated 3/2/00 2:55:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, Quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   > Yeah, all the pencil-pipes in the north triforium gallery (right across from > the > console, weren't they?) have gone to A Better Place, replaced by the Sowerby > Memorial Super-Swell / Bombarde division, or something like that = (grin), > which I > THINK is in the south (?) quarter-gallery ... it's been awhile. >   Not to disparage Bud's memory, but is there someone in the DC area who = could drop by and take a look-see. When I was there in the early 70's the = Sowerby Swell was in, and I believe the Bombarde as well. There was a Brustwerk =   and Positiv on either choir screen. I'm not sure that even I would have removed those two divisions; after all, the organ IS a big electic = instrument which really is not faithful to any historic period.   Bruce in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest  
(back) Subject: Re: Stop Names and things From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 09:37:09   At 11:46 AM 3/2/2000 EST, Brewse wrote:   >Not to disparage Bud's memory<snip>   Oh, go ahead! It's FUN!   BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Acoustics: "Mainly the padded seats"... From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:09:53 -0800   That may be true of a hall, but in a church, when people stand up, they = either uncover bare wood or fabric; in the former case, the bare wood HELPS.   Cheers,   Bud   "Charles E. Peery" wrote:   > Hi, friends, > > Just wanted to make the comment after opening a $3.5 million dollar > auditorium at school: Somewhat dependent on the situation, padded seats = are > really no worse acoustically than a hall full of people, since people = bring > (or ARE) their own padding! Padded seats would make a difference in the > acoustics when the place was empty, but the effect would be to simply = make > the hall sounds more like it does when it is full. We have found this = to be > an advantage, not a disadvantage, since things don't change as = drastically > from rehearsal to performance. > > For what it's worth > > Chuck Peery > Cincinnati > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian/Estey nomenclature From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:16:15 -0800   The Ringling organ was for sale in the late '50s ... St. Paul's Church in = Winter Haven FL very nearly bought it. I never heard it, but I think I recall it = was a somewhat larger 3-manual, yes/no? Good thing the church DIDN'T buy it = ...St. Paul's burned, lock, stock and last-gasp 3-manual Aeolian-Skinner, = sometime after I left the area for college in the early '60s.   If the Ringling organ is back up and playing, and they're having concerts, = I presume they intend to keep it.   Cheers,   Bud   VEAGUE wrote:   > Hi Bud- Yer right. It WAS Aeolian, not Estey. My boo-boo. > My friend who knows quite a bit about Aeolians, jokes about them = cramming 40 > ranks of pipes in broom closets and pantrys. > I guess where ever pipes would fit, in they'd go! > > The Ringling house in Sarasota- now New College- has a dog house on the = roof > with several ranks of pipes. An in-wall tone chute from that followed = the > staircase down to the ground floor with a grille in the wall at the base = of > the stairs. Must have been angelic- sounding. The instrument wasn't = playing > in the 70s when I saw it. > I understand the instrument is playing now, and Rosa Rio had the = pleasure > several times of concertizing on it. > > Rick > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT - VIRUS WARNING From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:33:42 -0500   At 04:02 AM 2/29/00 -0600, the Administrator wrote: >There is something called PrettyPark.exe that is floating around. DO >NOT run this file. If you have please go to: >http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/prettypark.worm.html to >see how to eradicate it. > It's worse than that. I tried to follow the instructions from that link, and PP attacked my system with a vengeance. I ended up getting = essentially a new computer. This baby set me back $735.   Evie   mailto:efrowe@mindspring.com  
(back) Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT - VIRUS WARNING From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:01:30 -0500   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_1850946= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   May I add a word on this?   Here at Queen's University this virus has become rampant. However we use Dr. Solomon's Anti Virus software, which now has a patch to find and eradicate PrettyPark.exe from your hard drive.   I am sure that there are other software patches as well, but this one has not caused any one to have to replace their computer!   Back to organistic matters!   Try to join us on Friday and Monday evenings for Pipechat Internet Relay Chat for chat on organistic and other matters. If you have not been with us before, you can find out how to join us on the Pipechat Web page to be found at:   http://www.pipechat.org   It's always fun, and most of the time very instructional!   Bob Conway     At 01:33 PM 2000-03-02 -0500, you wrote: >At 04:02 AM 2/29/00 -0600, the Administrator wrote: > >There is something called PrettyPark.exe that is floating around. DO > >NOT run this file. If you have please go to: > >http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/prettypark.worm.html to > >see how to eradicate it. > > >It's worse than that. I tried to follow the instructions from that link, >and PP attacked my system with a vengeance. I ended up getting = essentially >a new computer. This baby set me back $735. > >Evie > >mailto:efrowe@mindspring.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_1850946= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> <font size=3D3>May I add a word on this?<br> <br> Here at Queen's University this virus has become rampant.&nbsp; However we use Dr. Solomon's Anti Virus software, which now has a patch to find and eradicate PrettyPark.exe from your hard drive.<br> <br> I am sure that there are other software patches as well, but this one has not caused any one to have to replace their computer!<br> <br> Back to organistic matters!&nbsp; <br> <br> Try to join us on Friday and Monday evenings for Pipechat Internet Relay Chat for chat on organistic and other matters.&nbsp; If you have not been with us before, you can find out how to join us on the Pipechat Web page to be found at:<br> <br> &nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.pipechat.org/" = eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.pipechat.org</a><br> <br> It's always fun, and most of the time very instructional!<br> <br> Bob Conway<br> <br> <br> At 01:33 PM 2000-03-02 -0500, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite cite>At 04:02 AM 2/29/00 -0600, the Administrator wrote:<br> &gt;There is something called PrettyPark.exe that is floating around.&nbsp; DO <br> &gt;NOT run this file.&nbsp; If you have please go to: <br> &gt;<a = href=3D"http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/prettypark.worm.html" = eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/prettypark.wo= rm.html</a> to <br> &gt;see how to eradicate it.<br> &gt;<br> It's worse than that.&nbsp; I tried to follow the instructions from that link,<br> and PP attacked my system with a vengeance.&nbsp; I ended up getting essentially<br> a new computer.&nbsp; This baby set me back $735.<br> <br> Evie<br> <br> <a href=3D"mailto:efrowe@mindspring.com" = eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:efrowe@mindspring.com</a><br> <br> &quot;Pipe Up and Be Heard!&quot;<br> PipeChat:&nbsp; A&nbsp; discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; related topics<br> HOMEPAGE : <a href=3D"http://www.pipechat.org/" = eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.pipechat.org</a><br> List: <a href=3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org" = eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org</a><br> Administration:&nbsp; <a href=3D"mailto:admin@pipechat.org" = eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:admin@pipechat.org</a><br> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:&nbsp; <a href=3D"mailto:requests@pipechat.org" = eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:requests@pipechat.org</a></font></blockquote></ht= ml>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_1850946= =3D=3D_.ALT--    
(back) Subject: Re: "New" Organ Commissioned From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:26:52 EST   Carl, Ya dunne goode! Nice post and good information. Welcome to the list, = and please post often. You've got a good grasp on things (I like 8' stuff, = too)   Bruce in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest  
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian/Estey nomenclature From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:56:54 -0500   Hey Bud- Yes, the Ringling organ is 3 manuals and going strong, last I heard.   Rick        
(back) Subject: Fw: "New" Organ Commissioned From: "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:52:15 -0500   Hey, Brewse,   Ah bin on heah lo-o-ong 'nuff tuh git me a ginn'ral ahdea 'baht howse it = awta be dun-- an' this ain't nohow mah fuhst postin tuh thisahere groop! Y'all awta be payin = bettah attenshun theah, Brewse!   Y'all take real good care o' them dawgs, now, y'heah?   BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!   Carl Snip   -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com <Cremona502@cs.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 2:27 PM Subject: Re: "New" Organ Commissioned     >Carl, >Ya dunne goode! Nice post and good information. Welcome to the list, = and >please post often. You've got a good grasp on things (I like 8' stuff, = too) > >Bruce in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com >http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand >http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >