PipeChat Digest #1303 - Monday, March 13, 2000
 
Re: 'chorale prelude garbage'
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
What's for Easter?
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Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas
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Re: 'chorale prelude garbage'
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Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas
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Re: chorale preludes
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Lent and Organ Music
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Re: 'chorale prelude garbage'
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
No Organ During Lent
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Re: Lent and Organ Music
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Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas
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Re: What's for Easter?
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Chorale Preludes
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Re: chorale preludes
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Re: Posters of Pipe Organs
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Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas
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Re: What's for Easter? (X-posted)
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Re: Numerology in the Chant? (X-posted)
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Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
 



(back) Subject: Re: 'chorale prelude garbage' From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:27:49 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0021_01BF8CBD.A2EE5860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable     ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: David Enlow=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 9:23 PM Subject: 'chorale prelude garbage'     >I heard an opinion expressed recently that I agreed with - 'the chorale = =3D preludes made much sense when those >hymns were used in >the service, =3D but if the church doesn't sing those 'Lutheran' chorales, the only =3D liturgical >appropriateness resides in the brain of the >organist' > >Interesting for discussion - if the tune doesn't have an immediate =3D associative power for the congregation, is it >as appropriate as >some =3D organists think?   OK, hang on a second. I play for a small Episcopal church in a sleepy =3D little town. I don't think that any one of them knows the hymn tune =3D "Alle Menschen Muessen Sterben," or "O Mensch Bewein' dein Suenden =3D Gross," but I still play then every Ash Wednesday/Lent. My pastor knows, = =3D I know, I believe that it's appropriate music for Lent. It depressed the = =3D hell out of me! 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(back) Subject: What's for Easter? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:53:42 -0600   I'm sure we shared this last year, but am interested in what you all are playing for voluntaries, preludes and postludes for THE DAY.   Glenda Sutton        
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:16:52 EST   In a message dated 3/12/00 6:29:26 PM Central Standard Time, lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com writes:   << Questions. Do you regularly use hymns not found in LBW or WOV? On the Psalm, do you mean Tone 4 in LBW ? >>   Answers:   Quite occasionally I select music &/or hymn texts that are not found in = the LBW or the *dreadful* WOV and all is appreciated (with a few gripes here = and there).   Right, Tone 4 is correct (I just can't get my Anglican terminology = converted ;-).   John  
(back) Subject: Re: 'chorale prelude garbage' From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:22:24 EST   In a message dated 3/12/00 8:41:34 PM Central Standard Time, davenlow@hotmail.com writes:   << if the tune doesn't have an immediate associative power for the congregation, is it as appropriate as some organists think? >>   If this was a widely held view then all we'd be playing would be trite showtunes and lame little ditties.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:19:13 EST   In a message dated 3/12/00 7:26:53 PM Central Standard Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << One of my pet peeves is hearing run-of-the-mill chorale preludes in church and, even worse, in recitals. Occasionally, I do play them, but only the ones that I = consider to be top knotch. >>   But Bruce,   "O Wench Be Mine" ;-) is considered to be one of the very best of all chorale preludes...   John  
(back) Subject: Re: chorale preludes From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:33:21 EST   In a message dated 3/12/00 11:34:59 PM Central Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << I cannot imagine beginning Lent without "O Man Bewail", "Have Mercy = Upon Me, O God", etc., and this year I played "By Adam's Fall" from the misc. chorale preludes because we'd been discussing the registration on one of the lists. None of those tunes are in the 1940 Hymnal. So what? They're gorgeous as absolute music ... and at least the TITLES in the bulletin LOOK like Lent (grin). >>     I couldn't agree more, without bursting a blood vessel! Our congregations =   don't have to recognize everything that we're playing. Through our choice = of voluntaries, anthems, and hymns we set the mood for the service and echo = the lectionary of the particular day. Doing anything less would be falling = short of our charge. (I use the Bible, lectionary, Hymnal(s), Choirmaster's Handbook, and various other materials when I select service music).   John  
(back) Subject: Lent and Organ Music From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:39:37 EST   During Lent (and Advent) I very sparingly use mixtures or reeds, in = keeping with the mood of the season. Then when Easter (and Xmas) arrives I pull = out the mixtures and reeds to echo the joy of the day.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: 'chorale prelude garbage' From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:48:54 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 13-Mar-100 Re: 'chorale prelude garbage' by DRAWKNOB@aol.com > << if the tune doesn't have an immediate associative power for the > congregation, is it as appropriate as some organists think? >> > > If this was a widely held view then all we'd be playing would be trite > showtunes and lame little ditties. > Not necessarily, if you broaden 'chorale prelude' to include hymn-tune treatments, regardless of the tunes' provenance.   For prelude/offertory/distribution/postlude I usually play treatments of the tunes in use that day. It's gebrauchsmusik, to be sure, but in fact worship music generally is that, in the strict sense - serving purposes outside itself. Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: No Organ During Lent From: "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:55:50 EST   Greetings All,   I my self was confused years ago by these old rubrics and thoughts even of =   some elderly parishioners towards the organ during Lent and Advent. = However after consulting a few priests and Catholic Professors the ideas have been =   made clear.   The concept behind not have organ (really said: Instruments) during the Lenten Season was historically based on a time when there was no organ in = RC churches. (Again the concept was aimed at Instruments). We also had this concept of shall we call it "play acting" for liturgy. IE: during each = Lent - Christ does not go into the desert and get crucified all over again, yet =   that was the thought. Unfortunately the RC church developed many forms of =   "play acting liturgy" - the reading of the Passion Gospel with = congregation shouting, A little Mary bringing a Jesus statue to the Manger on Midnight Mass, "Saint" marching into church on All Saints Day, the thoughts that Jesus Dies again during Lent, and that he is born again during Advent.   In a now more learned society, we do not pretend to put Christ back into Mary's womb to pop out again and Dec 24th, we do not pretend that Christ = is crucified again (lest alone in church!). The over-all RC theology during lent is a somber celebration. Repentance is a major theme however praise = to God and thanksgiving are also appropriate because we celebrate what and = why Christ did what he did on the cross.   So yes, my Bombardes will be collecting some dust this lent. However, the organ is played even on Good Friday, and we do use more than an 8' Flute = to accompany hymns and chant. CP and T&F's and P&F's are played. Perhaps = the play acting is cute or fun to do but it is about as liturgically = appropriate as a dog playing dead then 2 mins later popping it's head up and wanting = to know where dinner is!   All the Best,   The Maitre   P.S. - No offense to Bruce and the Beagles with the dog comment! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Lent and Organ Music From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:00:00 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 13-Mar-100 Lent and Organ Music by DRAWKNOB@aol.com > During Lent (and Advent) I very sparingly use mixtures or reeds, in = keeping > with the mood of the season. Then when Easter (and Xmas) arrives I pull = out > the mixtures and reeds to echo the joy of the day.   Well, technically the Sundays in Lent are not part of the forty-day count ('in', but not 'of'). Like all Sundays, they remain celebrations of the Resurrection, and the Lenten fasting does not pertain to them.   Practically, of course, you have a point in that Sunday is the only day of worship for many, so if Lent is not observed then, it becomes invisible or moot. Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:56:55 EST   In a message dated 3/12/00 4:30:06 PM Central Standard Time, TRACKELECT@cs.com writes:   << However one thing I'm curious about - is the Tocatta in D minor "The Great" of the "Dorian"? >>   The "Dorian".... but, it's not truly in the Dorian mode, since it's in = pure D minor.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: What's for Easter? From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:53:25 EST   Easter Voluntaries/Anthems   Prelude: Prelude and Fugue in C Major (BWV 531) - J.S. Bach Introit: Entrata Festiva - Flor Peeters Anthem: In the end of the Sabbath - Oley Speaks Offertory: Prelude on EASTER HYMN - Robert J. Powell Postlude: Carillon de Westminster - Louis Vierne   John Gambill Oak Cliff Lutheran Church Dallas  
(back) Subject: Chorale Preludes From: "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:06:05 EST   Greetings Again All,   List members have mentioned the, "O Man Bewail" and "Adams Fall" for = Lenten music but let us not forget the lovely "By the Streams of Babylon" both = the double pedal and single pedal versions. Not only perfect for setting the Lenten mood by drawn for Lenten texts and one of the psalms during the Lenten cycle.   Also (at the risk of being be-headed) it can be effective and very musical =   to not play chorale preluded in a strict Baroque style. Indeed season = after season this can become quite taxing on some ears. I have used a rather romantic registration for "O Man Bewail" to great effect which only added = to the pleading nature of the music.   Ped - 16' Bourdon Positiv - (Acc) 8' Melodie, 8' Dulciane, 8' Cor de Chamois Recit - (Melody) Alternate between 8' Hautbois and 4' Flute Traversier using (gasp) the tremblant and shades!   It become quite moving and conveys the feeling of agony and sorrow - and friends: isn't that what it's all about ? Communicating with our music = not mearly providing background or historically astute dittys.   All the Best,   The Maitre ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: chorale preludes From: <JamesM8336@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:13:03 EST   I frequently print a verse or 2 of the hymn when playing a chorale prelude = on an unfamilar hymn.   Jim  
(back) Subject: Re: Posters of Pipe Organs From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:17:38 -0500     > > >>I'm looking for posters of famous pipe organs. I thought a nice addition = to >>my 11 organs and 3 pianos here in my house, would be some posters of = more >>organs hanging above each of my consoles. OK, OK I'm obsessed with = organs. >>Any leads from any of you? >> >>Kyle B. Irwin >>Organist, Collector, Curator   Kyle, some years back I was in Holland and visited the famous ST. Bavo in Haarlem. They sold us a poster at the church. St. Laurens in Rotterdam = also has posters. Perhaps some of those members resident in Holland could steer you to the right intermediary party? some of their churches also have web-sites!   Good luck,   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:53:43 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas     > In a message dated 3/12/00 7:26:53 PM Central Standard Time, > Cremona502@cs.com writes: > > << One of my pet peeves is > hearing run-of-the-mill chorale preludes in church and, even worse, in > recitals. Occasionally, I do play them, but only the ones that I consider > to be top knotch. >> > > But Bruce, > > "O Wench Be Mine" ;-) is considered to be one of the very best of all > chorale preludes...   I HELD MY TONGUE!! Who saw that coming a mile away...   (ooh! ooh! I did, I did!)   -Rebekah    
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:31:44 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 10:09:12 AM Central Standard Time, rringram@syr.edu writes:   << I HELD MY TONGUE!! Who saw that coming a mile away... (ooh! ooh! I did, I did!) -Rebekah >>   Rebekah gets a star and an apple!!!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Brewse's June Lineup Revealed! From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:42:30 EST   In a message dated 3/12/00 8:48:38 PM Central Standard Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << Brewse's bizzy schedule has precluded him from finishing the posting of = his June, '00, recital content! Here it is! "Lorenz Chorale Preludes I Have Loved"... ...starring Brewse, playing his collection of Bald-one Schpinettes! >>   Me doth think that Brewse protesteth too much... Which means, he must a closeted lover of Chorale Preludes and Bald-ones.... ;-)   John  
(back) Subject: "O Man, Bewail" From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:48:14 EST   Because my organ is rather limited in size, I register O Mensch Bewein as such:   Ped: Subbass 16' Swell: Trumpet 8' (box closed) Great: Rohr Flote 8' NO TREMS!!!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: What's for Easter? (X-posted) From: "Bud" <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:51:58 -0800   Can anyone suggest a relatively easy QUIET Easter anthem or motet for COMMUNION? We're doing "Light's Glittering Morn Bedecks the Sky" (by Horatio Parker, and yes, I AM having extra singers ... grin!) for the Offertory, God willing and the Hammond don't die, but I'm sorta at a loss for something quiet for communion. We've sung that tacky McCormack thing about the stone being rolled away (for an entire page, no less!) for two years, but I'm tired of it, and so is the choir.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Numerology in the Chant? (X-posted) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:52:11 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 3:12:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   > I'm not into numerology, particularly, beyond the usual Trinitarian > symbolism ... but in order to set Chant on Sibelius, I have to count = the > number of 8th note pulses in each phrase, and it seems that certain > numbers keep re-occurring ... mostly multiples of 3 ... hmmm ... I believe there are also some phrases that, at least rhythmically, are divisible by 7! DodododoDOdododoDOdododo.....   Bruce in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:57:28 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas     > In a message dated 3/13/00 10:09:12 AM Central Standard Time, > rringram@syr.edu writes: > > << I HELD MY TONGUE!! Who saw that coming a mile away... > > (ooh! ooh! I did, I did!) > > -Rebekah >> > > Rebekah gets a star and an apple!!!   Do I still get one if I mention "Lobster Jesus, cut mein hair?"   -Rebekah