PipeChat Digest #1304 - Monday, March 13, 2000
 
Re: "O Man, Bewail"
  by "Bud" <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: voluntaries
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: 'chorale prelude garbage'
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: "O Man, Bewail"
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: chorale preludes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Lent and Organ Music
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: No Organ During Lent
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Lent and Organ Music
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Chorale Preludes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: "O Man, Bewail"
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Organ Hardware
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Lent, Morning Prayer, etc.
  by "Bud" <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
the use of the organ
  by "Bud" <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Lent, Morning Prayer, etc.
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Organ Hardware
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: "O Man, Bewail"
  by <JamesM8336@aol.com>
Re: "O Man, Bewail"
  by "Edmund Shay" <EdShay@colacoll.edu>
Re: "O Man, Bewail"
  by "Bud" <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: 'chorale prelude garbage'
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Chorale Preludes
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: chorale preludes
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: What's for Easter? (X-posted)
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: What's for Easter? (X-posted)
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Oh Man Bewail
  by "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com>
Fw: Organ Hardware
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: chorale preludes
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: "O Man, Bewail"
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
 



(back) Subject: Re: "O Man, Bewail" From: "Bud" <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:03:02 -0800   On a good organ, I play it on the Positive Sesquialtera with tremulant, = with the 8' Great Principal for the accompaniment, and Subbass 16-Octave 8 in = the pedals. And I don't mind if the trem happens to shake the Great Principal = too (grin). The Hammond can actually APPROXIMATE the sound, since there's a bright 2' Principal in the Swell you can add to the Sesquialtera ... all = the mutations are wide, WIDE scale, even the sampled ones. I don't monkey with the swell shades or the solo combination ... I just let the piece speak = for itself.   Cheers,   Bud   DRAWKNOB@aol.com wrote:   > Because my organ is rather limited in size, I register O Mensch Bewein = as > such: > > Ped: Subbass 16' > Swell: Trumpet 8' (box closed) > Great: Rohr Flote 8' > NO TREMS!!! > > John > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: voluntaries From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:03:25 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 3:36:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   > I can see both sides here ... in the strict interpretation, "solo" organ =   > music ISN'T a part of the Mass, and indeed, the rubrics FORBID it (or = used to) at > certain seasons and occasions: > Advent I, II, and IV. . . . But them's Roman rubrics. We've moved on!!!   > Except for the Triduum (Maundy Thursday after the Gloria, all of Good Friday, > and the first part of Holy Saturday), the organ could be played "in a subdued > tone" to accompany the chant ONLY. .... or at the priest's pleasure. Do remember WHO wrote/what the = rubrics!     > That's why we have very little old organ music based on the Advent = chants, > and practically none on the Lenten chants ... even as late as = Tournemire, he > only sets Gaudete and Laetare Sunday. > So ... the liturgical tradition REGULATES the use of the organ, but it's =   not > an official part of the liturgy in the sense that I can't go to the Ordo =   > Kalendar and find out what pieces I'm supposed to play on a given = Sunday, as I can the variable parts of the Mass itself. Oh geez, Bud! You're not only locked into RC rubrics, but FRENCH ones, = at that! ;0) There are other sheep with other rubrics! teehee   >I've been playing "O Mensch Bewein" and "Durch Adam's Fall" for forty = years). Now if you move the quotation mark, you'll have a perfect Lenten prelude: =   "Durch Adam's Fall for Forty Years"   play on, McDuck!!! ;0)   Bruce .. . . . in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS   Bruce in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: 'chorale prelude garbage' From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:17:17 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 7:34:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, = rringram@syr.edu writes:   > Interesting for discussion - if the tune doesn't have an immediate > associative power for the congregation, is it >as appropriate as >some > organists think? > Well, DAH! Have the choir sing the first stanza of the text before you = play the CP; then have them sing another or final stanza after. What the = hell, it's Lent and they're supposed to be unhappy.... have the choir sing the whole dange thinge first. This would be edjakashunal... dumbing-up = if'n ya will! ;0)   Or, if you really want to penitalize 'em, put the words in the bulletin = and ask the congregation to sing the hymn after the CP has taught them the melody! ;0)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:19:08 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 11:02:51 AM Central Standard Time, rringram@syr.edu writes:   << Do I still get one if I mention "Lobster Jesus, cut mein hair?" >>   For that one you'll get a spanking!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:23:36 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 9:42:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, = DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:   > "O Wench Be Mine" ;-) is considered to be one of the very best of all > chorale preludes... True it is. . . if were playing on Sundays now, I'd play it just for pennance! ;0)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: "O Man, Bewail" From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:13:40 -0800   I prefer to use a nice Cornet V (single stop or separat=E9), with tremulant, accompanied by Gedackt 8 and Flute 4, with Pedal 16 and 8 flutes, accopaniment coupled to pedal. I suspect there a variety of registrations will produce equally satisfying results.   Jason   > From: Bud <quilisma@socal.rr.com> > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:03:02 -0800 > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: Re: "O Man, Bewail" >=20 > On a good organ, I play it on the Positive Sesquialtera with tremulant, w= ith > the 8' Great Principal for the accompaniment, and Subbass 16-Octave 8 in = the > pedals. And I don't mind if the trem happens to shake the Great Principal= too > (grin). The Hammond can actually APPROXIMATE the sound, since there's a > bright 2' Principal in the Swell you can add to the Sesquialtera ... all = the > mutations are wide, WIDE scale, even the sampled ones. I don't monkey wit= h > the swell shades or the solo combination ... I just let the piece speak f= or > itself. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Bud >=20 > DRAWKNOB@aol.com wrote: >=20 >> Because my organ is rather limited in size, I register O Mensch Bewein a= s >> such: >>=20 >> Ped: Subbass 16' >> Swell: Trumpet 8' (box closed) >> Great: Rohr Flote 8' >> NO TREMS!!! >>=20 >> John >>=20 >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >=20 >=20 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >=20 >=20    
(back) Subject: Re: chorale preludes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:28:19 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 9:46:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, = DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:   > Through our choice of > voluntaries, anthems, and hymns we set the mood for the service and = echo the > lectionary of the particular day. Doing anything less would be falling =   > short of our charge. True! Is this is even MORE difficult when you can't use the organ during =   Lent! Here lies the dilemma, conundrumically speaking!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: Lent and Organ Music From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:29:14 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 9:50:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, = DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:   > Then when Easter (and Xmas) arrives I pull out > the mixtures and reeds to echo the joy of the day. Doesn't that knock them out of tune and leave a big mess of dust and = stuff?? ;0)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: No Organ During Lent From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:33:12 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 10:11:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, the_maitre@hotmail.com writes:   > The concept behind not have organ (really said: Instruments) during the > Lenten Season was historically based on a time when there was no organ = in RC > > churches. (Again the concept was aimed at Instruments). Interesting that even then the clergy, rather than working with the musicians, simply dismissed them until they would be missed at Easter when = he could find no reason not to use them. The more things change, the more they stay the same. sigh!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: Lent and Organ Music From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:40:18 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 10:18:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:   > Practically, of course, you have a point in that Sunday is the only day > of worship for many, so if Lent is not observed then, it becomes > invisible or moot. Shouldn't we allow more credit to our parishoners that they DO observe = Lent during the week with fasting and prayer, and possibly additional weekday offices or Eucharist, and that they would be greatly enriched by = accenting this observance with a festive celebration of the Eucharist (or, hopefully = MP for us snakebellies) on the Day of Resurrection. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Aren't we actually cheating ourselves, too!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: Chorale Preludes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:42:07 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 10:19:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, the_maitre@hotmail.com writes:   > I have used a rather > romantic registration for "O Man Bewail" to great effect which only = added to > the pleading nature of the music. Of course! What better way to symbolise sin that by using Celestes!! hehehehe   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: "O Man, Bewail" From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:39:46 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 11:48:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:   > Ped: Subbass 16' > Swell: Trumpet 8' (box closed) > Great: Rohr Flote 8' > NO TREMS!!! > Hmmm. I would think the tremulant would "warm" the sound of the trumpet. = heh heh I'd use it! ;0)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Organ Hardware From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:43:11 -0500   Dear List,   Time again to pick brains:   The older woodscrews, machine screws etc. appear of a harder quality than the new stuff from the local hardware stores. I de-rust the old stuff but that also removes any "bluing". Any = suggestions on how to treat the hardware to make it "blue" again?   I'll take private replies, unless you feel others on the list might = benefit.   Thanks in advance   John V      
(back) Subject: Lent, Morning Prayer, etc. From: "Bud" <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:30:21 -0800   EEEKKK!!! Morning PRAYER on the Day of Pascha? Brewse, even Christ Church Cathedral in Cincinnati didn't do THAT (grin), even tho' they put the = unconsumed Elements down the garbage disposal in the sacristy (!).   We HAVE Sung Morning Prayer every Sunday between the two Masses, but we're cancelling it on Palm Sunday and Easter because of the length of the = liturgies and the number of communions.   Cheers,   Bud   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 3/13/00 10:18:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, > syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu writes: > > > Practically, of course, you have a point in that Sunday is the only = day > > of worship for many, so if Lent is not observed then, it becomes > > invisible or moot. > Shouldn't we allow more credit to our parishoners that they DO observe = Lent > during the week with fasting and prayer, and possibly additional = weekday > offices or Eucharist, and that they would be greatly enriched by = accenting > this observance with a festive celebration of the Eucharist (or, = hopefully MP > for us snakebellies) on the Day of Resurrection. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. > Aren't we actually cheating ourselves, too! > > Bruce > . . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com > http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand > http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest > http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: the use of the organ From: "Bud" <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:43:07 -0800   The organ was originally banned because it was associated with the arena = and the martyrdom of early Christians ... remember, the hydraulus was played at = such events.   The Eastern Church STILL doesn't admit it (except for the Greeks in the = U.S., whose tastes tend to run to blond oak pews, old Hammonds and Bald-Ones = with sobbing trems, and sky-blue protestant choir robes with silver v-stoles = ... theyr'e sorta the low-church end of the Eastern Orthodox ... grin). The = Russians and the Serbs, etc. would have no use for organs ... most of their = churches have WONDERFUL choirs who can sing unaccompanied for five hours at a stretch = (grin).   The Western rubrics predate the existence of an identifiable "Roman" = Church ... it was just THE CHURCH, and that was what THE CHURCH did ... Anglican = cathedrals in England STILL don't play the organ on Fridays throughout the year as a = memorial of the Crucifixion ... heard a GORGEOUS unaccompanied Evensong on a summer = Friday afternoon in St. Paul's, London in the late '60s.   I'm probably as anti-clerical as the next organist (grin), but I REALLY = don't think it had to do with "dismissing" the musicians ... my choirs still = sang, and I still had to direct. If anything, it was MORE work to prepare an = all-unaccompanied High Mass ... we didn't have the organ to lean on.   Sure, I can go the other direction and say that would mean leaving out a = lot of gorgeous organ and choral music (most of it Lutheran in origin) ... we = play the organ straight through because the building's dead and the choir is small = ... but I hope to reach a point where I can at LEAST silence it on Good Friday, = tho' giving up Le Grand Hammond on Good Friday is SCANT penance (grin).   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music -- Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:02:28   At 11:57 AM 3/13/2000 -0500, Rebekkah wrote: >Do I still get one if I mention "Lobster Jesus, cut mein hair?"<snip>   ROFLMAO! One of my favorites for sure, along with Brewse's "dedodedo" chant interpretation!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Lent, Morning Prayer, etc. From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:06:17 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 2:31:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   > EEEKKK!!! Morning PRAYER on the Day of Pascha? Brewse, even Christ = Church > Cathedral in Cincinnati didn't do THAT (grin), Nooo noooo nooooooooooooooo! I was referring to Sunday as a celebration = of the resurrection, Little Eastre and all that! However, if Easter didn't =   happen to fall on the first Sunday of the month... hehehehehehe   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/bruco/STORIESINGLASS  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Hardware From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:11:44 EST   John: When rebuilding old organs ( like the Kilgen that you sold us ) I throw = out all the old slotted screws. First of all they're slotted, second of all = they are not plated as far as I can tell - ( thre're usually rusty ). New high quality # 10 wood screws are zinc plated and are supposed to have a 300 lb =   shear weight. The only time that I have seen them break is when someone forgets to drill a pilot hole. Some sizes of screws may be hard to find = like #12 or 14 but any industrial supply store should be able to get them. Industrial supply stores have it head and sholders over ordinary hardware stores and you should be able to find one in Poughkeepsie. Also, stay away =   from black powder coated screws. They will rust. The black coating is the preliminary step before plating. If you must reuse the old screws the only =   way I can think of to restore their original finish is to take them to someone who has an 'airless blaster' and have them run them through to get =   them clean then wash them down with gun bluing.   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Re: "O Man, Bewail" From: <JamesM8336@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:13:52 EST   And what's wrong with using Trem on O Mensch?  
(back) Subject: Re: "O Man, Bewail" From: "Edmund Shay" <EdShay@colacoll.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:27:18 -0500 (EST)   >And what's wrong with using Trem on O Mensch?   ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! GO TO IT! ENJOY! BACH'S TREMOLO SHOOK THE WHOLE = ORGAN, NOT JUST A DIVISION!   Ed > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: "O Man, Bewail" From: "Bud" <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:31:37 -0800   AND it was one of the things he specified to be FIXED in that organ = rebuild I can never remember the location of, along with CHIMES in the PEDAL (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Edmund Shay wrote:   > >And what's wrong with using Trem on O Mensch? > > ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! GO TO IT! ENJOY! BACH'S TREMOLO SHOOK THE WHOLE = ORGAN, > NOT JUST A DIVISION! > > Ed > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: 'chorale prelude garbage' From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:30:44   At 09:48 AM 3/13/2000 -0500, you wrote: >> If this was a widely held view then all we'd be playing would be trite >> showtunes and lame little ditties.<snip>   Hmmm...."Sioux City Sue" as a prelude...Brewse, you tried this yet???   BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!    
(back) Subject: Re: Chorale Preludes From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:50:44   At 10:06 AM 3/13/2000 EST, you wrote: >Ped - 16' Bourdon >Positiv - (Acc) 8' Melodie, 8' Dulciane, 8' Cor de Chamois >Recit - (Melody) Alternate between 8' Hautbois and 4' Flute Traversier >using (gasp) the tremblant and shades!   "Virgil Fox....paging Mr. Virgil Fox...."   dB   PS: Hey! Where's the "voix de sludge" strings at 16', 8' and 4'???  
(back) Subject: Re: chorale preludes From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:39:30 -0500   At 10:13 AM 3/13/00 -0500, James M wrote: >I frequently print a verse or 2 of the hymn when playing a chorale = prelude on >an unfamilar hymn. > Or one could have the choir sing the chorale at some other point during = the service.   Evie  
(back) Subject: Re: What's for Easter? (X-posted) From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:44:42 -0500   "In Joseph's Lovely Garden," Clarence Dickinson. Still in print 3-4 years = ago.     At 08:51 AM 3/13/00 -0800, Bud wrote: >Can anyone suggest a relatively easy QUIET Easter anthem or motet for >COMMUNION? We're doing "Light's Glittering Morn Bedecks the Sky" (by >Horatio Parker, and yes, I AM having extra singers ... grin!) for the >Offertory, God willing and the Hammond don't die, but I'm sorta at a loss >for something quiet for communion. We've sung that tacky McCormack thing >about the stone being rolled away (for an entire page, no less!) for two >years, but I'm tired of it, and so is the choir. > >Cheers, > >Bud > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: What's for Easter? (X-posted) From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:55:19 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 13-Mar-100 Re: What's for Easter? (X-p.. by Bud@socal.rr.com > Can anyone suggest a relatively easy QUIET Easter anthem or motet for > COMMUNION?   Bud, how about Brahms' 'Mary Magdalene' from his 'Marienlieder'? It's HW Gray GCMR 1747. SATB unacc. Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Oh Man Bewail From: "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:21:46 EST   Greetings all,   OK, OK, OK.... I do use other registrations as well - it's not all = Romantic you know! James David at Holy Cross in Worcester recommended using: Ped: 16' Subbass Hauptwerke: 8' Spitzflote RuckPositiv: 8' Principal w/ trem He did not like reeds or Cornets for the melody because he felt they were too assertive and ruined the plaintive nature of the thing. As far as my registration: a well voiced Hautbois w/ trem and some = shadeing is quite plaintive!   As to the Virgil Fox commentary.... I will take that as an Extream Compliment! Thank You (bow bow bow - blows kisses) ;-)   All the Best,   The Maitre ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Fw: Organ Hardware From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:18:17 -0500   Hi John- I try to save ALL old hardware because the stuff one buys today won't last. Especially slotted and phillips heads which strip and won't = hold the driver tip anymore.   My only suggestion would be the possibility of 'gun-blueing'- like they = use on pistols and such.   Other than that, in player piano work I polish and lacquer screws, bolts = and misc. hardware.   Hope this helps.   Rick   ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org>; <PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 3:43 PM Subject: Organ Hardware     > Dear List, > > Time again to pick brains: > > The older woodscrews, machine screws etc. appear of a harder quality = than > the new stuff from the local hardware stores. > I de-rust the old stuff but that also removes any "bluing". Any suggestions > on how to treat the hardware to make it "blue" again? > > I'll take private replies, unless you feel others on the list might benefit. > > Thanks in advance > > John V > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: chorale preludes From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:23:51 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 11:42:53 AM Central Standard Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << Here lies the dilemma, conundrumically speaking! >>   Bruce, Bruce, Bruce,   You're such a stickler for details..... I'm sure your choir LOVES ya! ;-)   John  
(back) Subject: Re: "O Man, Bewail" From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:27:31 EST   In a message dated 3/13/00 12:50:21 PM Central Standard Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << Hmmm. I would think the tremulant would "warm" the sound of the = trumpet. heh heh I'd use it! ;0) >>   Undoubtably true, but the tremulant affects the entire organ not just the swell division. On top of that, I'm not so sure that Bach would have used = it for that particular piece.   John