PipeChat Digest #1330 - Friday, March 31, 2000 Fwd: Fort Worth Storm by "David Scribner" <email@example.com> Re: music suggestions by "Margo Dillard" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Secularizing the organ by <KriderSM@aol.com> Filsell's Dupr=E9 & Cheap CDs by "William T. Van Pelt III" <email@example.com> Guild certification (was repopularizing...) by "Jonathan B. Hall" <firstname.lastname@example.org> RE: New Instrument by <email@example.com> Re: Ft Worth Tornado by "George W. Jenista" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Ft Worth Tornado by "Blaine Ricketts" <email@example.com> RE: Ft Worth Tornado by "Elders, Craig" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: VIRUS WARNING by "Evelyn Rowe" <email@example.com> Re: Guild certification by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Re: VIRUS WARNING by "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Re: VIRUS WARNING by "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Re: VIRUS WARNING by "Edward Marsh" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Used 3 Man Allen Theatre Organ 4Sale by <JKVDP@aol.com> Re: Used 3 Man Allen Theatre Organ 4Sale by "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Re: VIRUS WARNING by "Claire" <email@example.com> RE: New Instrument by "Bert Atwood" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: New Instrument by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
(back) Subject: Fwd: Fort Worth Storm From: "David Scribner" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:56:31 -0600 Since I am not sure if Roy is on this list or not I have taken the liberty of forwarded what he posted to PIPORG-L to this list regarding his shop and the Tornado David. >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:34:49 -0600 >Reply-To: Roy Redman <firstname.lastname@example.org> >Sender: Pipe Organs and Related Topics <PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu> >From: Roy Redman <email@example.com> >Subject: Fort Worth Storm >To: PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu > >I want to thank all of you for your interest and concern. Fortunately, >we escaped with no damage. Our shop is near downtown, but east of I 35 >E. I rushed there to check as soon >as the storm passed over, since we have the restored Pilcher Bro. organ >from New Orleans about 80% complete with double >rise reservoir and feeders; lots of leather to be ruined. This organ >has previously suffered water damage and vandalism, so >I was very relived that it did not go through that again. >Thanks again to all of you who thought of us. >Roy > >:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >Note: opinions expressed on PIPORG-L are those of the individual con- >tributors and not necessarily those of the list owners nor of the Uni- >versity at Albany. For a brief summary of list commands, send mail to >firstname.lastname@example.org saying GET LSVCMMDS.TXT or see the web >page at http://www.albany.edu/piporg-l/lsvcmmds.html . >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
(back) Subject: Re: music suggestions From: "Margo Dillard" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:04:49 -0600 I do a series at my church every summer - some kind of theme for the preludes and postludes during that liturgical not-a-season. 2 years ago, I did a European vacation in a time machine - it was 1735 and each week we travelled to a different country to a church where a famous organist/composer was. Bulletin notes described the organist, the music style, and what the organ was like. Once we got to Germany, we spent 3 weeks - one in North Germany, one in South Germany, and the final week of our vacation at Bach's church. It was very well received. I find my church enjoys multi-week series - and the more information they get, the better they like it. I try to make sure the blurbs have a mix of general human interest stuff and just a touch of "meatier" musical info for the degreed musicians in the crowd. Stephen Ohmer wrote: > This year we are having several "themed" concerts > at the church, mostly with the organ, but > sometimes with other instruments. > > A. A Musical Vacation (who knows where this trip > might lead?) > > B. A Trip to the Musical Zoo (all titles having > animal names) > > C. Look! Up In the Sky! (stars, planets, etc.) > > I've started gathering some titles and pieces, > but my brain is quickly running dry. Do any of > you folks have some suggestions or ideas? > > Thanks for you help. > > steveohmer > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > Administration: mailto:email@example.com > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org
(back) Subject: Secularizing the organ From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:53:13 EST As I read Bob's comment I was struck by this thought: Pipe organs are expensive, however, today, people are willing to pay big bucks for things that they like (buck & a half for 10 mpg SUVs). Look at = this web site for a starting point: http://www.holmbergclockworks.com Now imagine this same clock using popular (read that Burt Bacharach, The Beatles, Elton John, Paul Anka, you get my drift) music programmed in its memory chip. Pops music will draw the crowd to pipe organ music, and the powerful sounds will keep them intrigued. Imagine further, this same clock with an attached spinet style key and = pedal board attached. Of course, this is not your Holy Father's 60-90 ranker, but a private home = is not as large as a Cathedral either. Musically, Stan Krider Bob Scarborough recently wrote: << Again, this further backs up my feeling that, as organists and organ builders and technicians, we had, as a group, better start looking to secularize the instrument to a much greater degree than we've seen in the last 70 years or so. If we do not, the instrument is sure to die off = along with its hosts, the mainline denominations, as the cancers of the "tilt-ups" and televangelism continues to syphon membership and funds = away from them. >>
(back) Subject: Filsell's Dupr=E9 & Cheap CDs From: "William T. Van Pelt III" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:13:14 -0500 Dear List: Jeremy Filsell's splendid set of CDs of works of Marcel Dupr=E9 is now up to Volume 7. They are available from http://ohscatalog.org In addition, the OHS online catalog has added several new CDs to its "Cheap CDs" section. There are well over 100 titles here, mostly on the Naxos label and others as well, for $5.99 ($4.99 to OHS members). The Naxos series of organ works by Marcel Dupr=E9 is now up to volume 9. In addition to the organ works, there are a few other pieces for organ and orchestra and organ with other instruments in this series. Players in the series include Bruce Neswick, Mary Preston, Robert Delcamp, Stefan Engels, Janette Fishell, Daniel Jam McKinley, and James Biery on a variety of organs including several Casavants, several Fisks, and others. Craig Cramer plays on Volume 1 of a new series of works by J. G. Walther. This first CD includes Concerti after Albinoni, Gregori, Telemann, Gentili, and for Sigr. Meck; also a Partita, two chorales, Fuga in F, and Prelude & Fugue in D minor. There are also two CD volumes of organ works by the 17th Century Dutch composer Anthoni van Noordt comprising his Tablature Book of Psalms and Fantasias (1659). We'll be adding other things to the online catalog over the next few weeks, and have added several new things in the past month or so. Bill Van Pelt OHS
(back) Subject: Guild certification (was repopularizing...) From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:41:12 -0500 (EST) Hi, all-- someone--I don't know who, as I've no time to backtrack all the snippets and quotes--said to the effect that "you had to have the FAGO just to get into the Guild; then the AAGO was instituted for people who couldn't pass the FAGO..." the point evidently being that membership standards have either watered down or grown more inclusive, take your pick. Either way, this above statement, I'm afraid, is historically inaccurate. The FAGO and AAGO are coeval; when the AGO was founded in 1896 one took an entrance exam and became either an Associate or Fellow of the Guild. The CAGO certificate dates from 1978 or 9, and indeed represented a 'first step' approach, and a good one, I think. With the increased prominence of academic degrees in our field, the Guild exams were tending to fall by the wayside. I don't remember offhand when the ChM was instituted, or when the Service Playing Certificate made its debut. (By the way, one is not supposed to put "SPC" after one's name with this certificate; it carries no academic privileges such as attributable initials. Yet I see "SPC" appearing more and more. Such is human nature.) Sorry to nag about such a small point. I thought people might be interested to know that the FAGO and AAGO certificates are the two original ones conferred by the AGO, and the others came later. Sometime in the 20's (I think?) the examination requirement was dropped for membership, and still later (was this not in the 70's?) the requirement to have two sponsors was also dropped, as well as the requirement that officers of the Guild be certificated. (If anyone is still reading, we are not allowed to call the certificates 'degrees' or 'diplomas' in this country, though our counterparts in the RCO and RCCO do so. Something to do with not having a physical campus or faculty, or the like.) Obviously, I believe strongly in the Guild's academic certification program, and I am not yet a graybeard, and elitists genuinely irritate me. The AGO is only elitist in the eye of the non-participant. I strongly encourage any and all to go for certification at the level best suited. If you fed-ex your application in, you can still meet the April 1 deadline for registering for an exam! Best Jonathan B. Hall, FAGO Doctoral student in organ Bloomington, IN
(back) Subject: RE: New Instrument From: <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:33:55 -0600 Those who have written that there's MIDI everything are pretty much on target. The only missing item is a MIDI pedalboard. I have a used pedalboard, but have not felt compelled to finish the project of MIDIfication. My primary musical effort is composition and I can do everything I want without a pedalboard. Though it would be nice to get = back to playing. The resistance you're finding is that the only expertise in playing pedals is organists and they have jobs playing for churches (or theaters). Their focus will always be based on their work and repertoire. I think you'll = find (or have already found) that in general they're a pretty conservative lot. OTOH, if you want to blaze a trail playing a rack of synths with hands and feet I would applaud your efforts. If you're looking for repertoire check out my site at MP3.com, maybe we could rearrange something. Good luck, Steve Chandler www.mp3.com/stevechandler
(back) Subject: Re: Ft Worth Tornado From: "George W. Jenista" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:32:56 -0600 Actually, the church referenced in a previous post, with the blown-out steeple seen on all the television coverage, was Calvary Cathedral. It appears that First United Methodist, with its 110-rank Garland instrument, was unscathed. There are also two or three historic old church buildings on the east side of downtown Fort Worth [possibly housing pipe organs], which were definitely in the twister's path, but no infomration apears to be available about them.
(back) Subject: Re: Ft Worth Tornado From: "Blaine Ricketts" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:23:11 -0800 Isn't there a Reuter Organ in the Methodist chruch that Dan Garland did some work or additions to??? Blaine Ricketts "George W. Jenista" wrote: > It appears that First United Methodist, with its 110-rank Garland > instrument, was unscathed. There are also two or three historic old = church > buildings on the east side of downtown Fort Worth [possibly housing pipe > organs], which were definitely in the twister's path, but no infomration > apears to be available about them. >
(back) Subject: RE: Ft Worth Tornado From: "Elders, Craig" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:25:13 -0600 Good morning to all! The Calvary Cathedral has been on all the television coverage and is right next to the Cash American building that was almost completely destroyed. This area is on the Western edge of the Downtown proper and about a = quarter mile West of the center of downtown where we have all seen the tall glass buildings, many now glassless (is that a word?). Just a couple of blocks South of the demolished Calvary Cathedral is First Pres. that houses a magnificent V/133 instrument, rebuilt and enlarged by Dan Garland. The first thing I did after the storm was to try to get information about the church and the organ. Bob MacDonald is the organists there. From what I have heard, there were some broken windows and some roof damage but no reports of any interior damage or damage to the organ. This was the organ used for the opening of the Regional AGO last summer. Several have written me asking about the condition of that church since it is located so close = to the path of the tornado and many have been there to hear the instrument. First Methodist, that George had reported about, is just several blocks East, towards the center of town. It is just a couple of blocks West of = the tallest glass building that has been shown with all the missing glass. Again, no reports of major damage to First Methodist or the instrument there. The organ is a Reuter than Dan Garland has done some work on. Also right down town and East of the tall glass building is Fort Worth's = new Bass Performance Hall. No reports of damage to this new building. In = fact, a performance was taking place inside when the tornado hit, but since it = is so soundproof, no one had any idea of what was happening outside. By the way, there is no pipe organ in the new performance hall. Broadway Baptist that houses the Casavant V/193 Van Clyburn organ is about 1/2 mile due South of the center of downtown and no reports of any damage there. This area is just West of where Roy Redman's shop is located and we have seen a report from him that his shop was not damaged. It was a terrible night across Fort Worth and out our suburbs, Arlington = and Dallas. We watched all the horrible pictures of downtown. But it was the next morning when the TV started showing the hundreds of homes destroyed = and hundreds more damaged. It is just amazing that no more precious lives = were lost! Craig Elders Fort Worth, Texas
(back) Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING From: "Evelyn Rowe" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:03:33 -0500 This morning I checked my system for the virus and found no files with <kak> in the title. I thought this might be because I use Eudora Pro for my e-mail, precisely because so many viruses are transmitted through Outlook Express. Out of curiosity I went through the cyber-trash to see what might be going on and found that the message in question came in with each letter and symbol repeated at least twice and sometimes 5-6 times. The virus line was in there if you knew what to look for, but in that format there was no way it would, as we say, compute.
(back) Subject: Re: Guild certification From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:13:13 -0500 (EST) There is NO requirement to take an exam to enter the AGO. In fact, one need only be interested in organ (and choral music). One doesn't even have to know HOW to play an organ. AGO is a wonderful organization that is working hard for our profession. I took (and passed) my certificate examination so that I could further my knowledge and hopefully my career. It wasn't easy in the slightest, so I am proud of my AAGO. I am a proud member of AGO. Our chapter is anything but elitist. The folks are fun, seriously interested in music making, and love being with each other. We present an annual choir festival drawing over 250 singers from 3 counties. We also love to eat!!! Nothing elitist about that, is it? Organists and other church musicians should really take advantage of the benefits from belonging to the American Guild of Organists. And the have a GREAT website. Blessings on you all. Neil
(back) Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING From: "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:58:07 -0500 Hello.... I'm new to this list. I know this is off-topic from the list, but just caught the post on the virus - I didn't think I had this until Evelyn just happened to mention the "kak" title. Then after a post a while back, I realized that upon rebooting the computer, Internet Explorer would start = up by itself, and then in my Documents folder, it said "kak.htm". Could = someone please tell me more about this - what it is and how to get rid of it - I = did an entire system scan on my computer, and couldn't find any viruses. I = went in to Find Files" and searched for "kak.htm", found it and got rid of it. Did I get rid of the entire problem? If someone could privately E-Mail me = on this matter, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ron Reseigh
(back) Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING From: "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:03:19 -0500 I'm sorry...the file was kak.hta - not .htm R~
(back) Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING From: "Edward Marsh" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:15:52 +0100 Ron Reseigh wrote: > in to Find Files" and searched for "kak.htm", found it and got rid of = it. > Did I get rid of the entire problem? If someone could privately E-Mail = me > on this matter, it would be greatly appreciated. I think issues like this should be public. Some computer users do not know how to delete viruses etc. I for one appreciate help on matters like this! Especially when one is relatively new to the world of (windoze) PCs as compared to Acorns! Edward
(back) Subject: Used 3 Man Allen Theatre Organ 4Sale From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:10:09 EST I am posting this for a friend in Washington state who needs to sell his Allen ADC 3 manual 3 cage custom theatre organ with 21 tone cabinets. = Price is $35,000. o.b.o. He is not needing the instrument any longer as he has purchased an Allen GW 4. Contact Dusan Mrak at this email address email@example.com Jerry in Seattle
(back) Subject: Re: Used 3 Man Allen Theatre Organ 4Sale From: "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:29:32 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- From: <JKVDP@aol.com> To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:10 PM Subject: Used 3 Man Allen Theatre Organ 4Sale >He is not needing the instrument any longer as he has > purchased an Allen GW 4. I don't blame'em!!!!! =3D) R~
(back) Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING From: "Claire" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:33:59 -0500 snip from Evelyn Rowe: >This morning I checked my system for the virus and found no files with ><kak> in the title. I thought this might be because I use Eudora Pro for >my e-mail, precisely because so many viruses are transmitted through >Outlook Express. I also use Eudora Pro, however the virus came in last week & was caught by = Norton - but it garbled the stuff in my inbox - & didn't let me know = which email it came in with. I am faithful in update my virus definitions at least once a week & run a scan every night automatically - just in case. >Out of curiosity I went through the cyber-trash to see >what might be going on and found that the message in question came in = with >each letter and symbol repeated at least twice and sometimes 5-6 times. >The virus line was in there if you knew what to look for, but in that >format there was no way it would, as we say, compute. I've been getting this type of message for some time now - everything repeated etc - & no warning by Norton that there was a virus (kak) until last week - what exactly did you look for in that message? Thanks, Claire
(back) Subject: RE: New Instrument From: "Bert Atwood" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:52:59 -0800 The Allen GW series theatre organs have MIDI on all keyboards and pedal. > -----Original Message----- > From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of > email@example.com > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 7:34 AM > To: firstname.lastname@example.org > Subject: RE: New Instrument > > > Those who have written that there's MIDI everything are pretty much on > target. The only missing item is a MIDI pedalboard. I have a used > pedalboard, but have not felt compelled to finish the project of > MIDIfication. My primary musical effort is composition and I can do > everything I want without a pedalboard. Though it would be nice > to get back > to playing. > > The resistance you're finding is that the only expertise in playing = pedals > is organists and they have jobs playing for churches (or theaters). = Their > focus will always be based on their work and repertoire. I think > you'll find > (or have already found) that in general they're a pretty conservative = lot. > OTOH, if you want to blaze a trail playing a rack of synths with hands = and > feet I would applaud your efforts. If you're looking for repertoire = check > out my site at MP3.com, maybe we could rearrange something. > > Good luck, > > Steve Chandler > www.mp3.com/stevechandler > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:email@example.com > Administration: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:email@example.com >
(back) Subject: Re: New Instrument From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:26:20 EST >Those who have written that there is midi everything are pretty much on target. The only item missing is a midi pedalboard.< As I started this whole discussion I felt that I might now comment that = the PIPE organs we build have a midi interface for both manuals and pedal. = This comes with our computer controlled combination action/relay. I thank all members of the list for their comments - positive or negitive. Based on = that we have decided to begin to development on said new instrument while continuing to build pipe organs ( all pipe organs - no speakers ). We will = not, however, let the electronic instrument take presidence over the pipe organ no matter how successful it may be. Alan B.