PipeChat Digest #1381 - Tuesday, May 9, 2000
 
Re: Reisner Valve Ohmages
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: Reisner Valve Ohmages
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com>
Composer information needed
  by <CdyVanpool@aol.com>
Re: Reisner Valve Ohmages
  by "Joe Nichols" <cjn@nicholsandsimpson.com>
Re: Composer information needed
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
The Organ Web Ring
  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net>
Mothers' Day (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic)
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
For Sale
  by "Bert Atwood" <atwoody@ispchannel.com>
X-post: Organ dedication--Central UMC Phoenix
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Funeral Reflections (xpost)
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic)
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic)
  by "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com>
Mother's Day II. (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic)
  by "Peder" <peder@carg.com>
Re: Funeral Reflections (xpost)
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Funeral Reflections (xpost)
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Mothers' Day (X-posted)
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Funeral Reflections (xpost)
  by "Sam Vause" <vause@home.com>
Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic)
  by "Sam Vause" <vause@home.com>
Cardinal O'Connor's Funeral (X-posted)
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Cardinal O'Connor's Funeral (X-posted)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Cardinal O'Connor's Funeral (X-posted)
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
Re: Cardinal O'Connor's Funeral (X-posted)
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Cardinal O'Connor (X-posted)
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic)
  by "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Reisner Valve Ohmages From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:20:09 EDT   Bob:   I hate to tell you this but on 6" of wind you will have trouble getting direct electric valves to work right. This is especially true with low = notes. The ohmage of the magnet is determined by the size of the valve / toe = hole. I usually use Peterson magnets but never exceed 4.5" wind. They make a "Supervalve" that will operate on higher pressures and there is a company called Kaydack ( Kadack - Kydack - Kadac ? ) that makes a valve that they = say will work on higher pressures. I got some samples but have not had a = chance to test them. My best advice to you is to contact Reisner and have them = send you a chart that shows what size valves to use. Also; just what kind of a project are you envolved in? Is this a = conversion or new chests? Church or Theater? Have you considered lowering pressures?   Good luck:   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Re: Reisner Valve Ohmages From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 08:11:28 -0700   I'm pretty sure Wicks will sell you their valves. 20 ohms, 1-1/2 inch diameter will work on 14 inch wind! I'm not sure what their limit is on wind pressure but a church in CA has a solo reed on 14" wind using these magnets.   Blaine Ricketts Castro Valley, CA   TRACKELECT@cs.com wrote: > > Bob: > > I hate to tell you this but on 6" of wind you will have trouble getting > direct electric valves to work right. This is especially true with low = notes. > The ohmage of the magnet is determined by the size of the valve / toe = hole. I > usually use Peterson magnets but never exceed 4.5" wind.  
(back) Subject: Composer information needed From: <CdyVanpool@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:36:51 EDT   I am looking for some biographical information on an organ composer by = the name of Joseph Roff. I have 2 works by him : "Festival Suite For Organ" published by Gregorian Institute of America, Cleveland, Ohio in 1966. "Service Suite For Organ" published by Abingdon Press in 1975. I am playing the "Festival Suite" on our AGO Members' Recital in = July and needed some program information. Thanks, Van Vanpool CdyVanpool@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Reisner Valve Ohmages From: "Joe Nichols" <cjn@nicholsandsimpson.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:11:27 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:20 AM       > I hate to tell you this but on 6" of wind you will have trouble getting > direct electric valves to work right. This is especially true with low notes.   We have routinely used Kimber-Allen DPM 50 ohm coils with 1-1/4 valves on = 8" plus of windpressure for chamades. Unfortunately, they no longer have a = US rep and you must deal with England directly. We always did anyway. FYI, avoid the Vertical Pallet magnet like the plague. Numerous reasons.   Neither Reisner nor Peterson come close to this kind of power.   C. Joseph Nichols Nichols & Simpson, Inc. www.nicholsandsimpson.com        
(back) Subject: Re: Composer information needed From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 12:44:58 EDT   In a message dated 5/8/00 11:37:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, CdyVanpool@aol.com writes:   << I am looking for some biographical information on an organ composer by = the name of Joseph Roff. I have 2 works by him : "Festival Suite For Organ" published by Gregorian Institute of America, Cleveland, Ohio in 1966. "Service Suite For Organ" published by Abingdon Press in 1975. >>   From Corliss Arnold, 2nd edition: "Born: Turin, Italy, Dec. 26, 1910. = BMus, MA, DocMus (1948). Study with Healey Willan, Leo Smith, Ernest MacMillan, University of Toronto; Fellow, Trinity College of London; Composer-in-Residence, Lecturer, St. Joseph's College, Brooklyn, New = York."   I don't know if he is still living.   I believe that organists and other musicians who are responsible for = program or bulletin annotations should buy Corliss Arnold, "Organ Literature;" = John Henderson's "A Dictionary of Composers for Organ," and for lots of interesting information you will not find in those books, Rollin Smith's fascinating "An Organist's Book of Days," published by the AGO. By typing = all of the above, I have yet again been the "enabler" for people who don't = have that most basic reference material.   A petulant Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com  
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(back) Subject: Mothers' Day (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 10:35:16 -0700   Well, it snuck up on me AGAIN. Would anyone who has a Methodist or Presbyterian hymnal handy please type out the words for "Happy the Home Where God ..." (St. Agnes) and/or any other appropriate Mothers' Day hymns that don't descend into great vats of treacle and post them? I can't go the RC "Jesus' Mother and Mine" route ... our folks don't connect with that. There is exactly ONE "family" hymn in the 1940, and it doesn't mention mothers. I've given up on finding an anthem ... the one I did find said something about "God's Greatest Gift (Mothers)", and of course that isn't theologically acceptable, hyperbole or not. JESUS is God's greatest gift, period.   I'm doing the bulletin this morning, so time is of the essence ... sorry about the rush call, but as organchatters know, I've been slightly snowed with funerals, synods, confirmations, etc.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic) From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 13:59:05 -0500   A relative living in Holland wishes to come over here to the US with her husband-to-be to be married in a churh here.   The reasons are many: more relatives here, the scenery, the church where = my wife is organist, aging grand-parents etc. Of course they want my wife to be the organist. (see this is organ-topic!)   Has anyone ever heard if a wedding done here in the US for non-citizens (just visitors-so-to-speak) is legal? over here? over there? Is there special paperwork? I'm sure you 'll see all the questions we see.   Please respond by private email.   Thanks for your input.   John V      
(back) Subject: For Sale From: "Bert Atwood" <atwoody@ispchannel.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:07:02 -0700   FOR SALE WURLITZER   4 rank chest - Vox Humana, Orchestral Oboe, Tibia, Horn Diapason - EXLNT 8' - 4' Metal Diapason 10" 61 notes - Good 8' Tibia Clausa 10" XLNT 12 notes @ 8' + 37 @ 4' (no metal trebles) Solo String - 61 notes TC up 15" wp - Good 2 Trems: 1 Fair, 1 XLNT Keyboards-Set of two, both with ivory keys and second touch - Good   Bert Atwood 707-277-7208 atwoody@ispchannel.com  
(back) Subject: X-post: Organ dedication--Central UMC Phoenix From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:40:53 EDT     I received a beautiful organ dedication brochure from a friend in Phoenix = and wanted to share some of the high points with the lists.   I don't know who played the program, but the church organist is Lorraine Miller, and it is likely that she played. The concert was played twice (2:30 & 7 pm) Rondo in G Major . . . John Bull Concerto No. II in a-minor (after Vivaldi) . . . J. S. Bach Concerto No. III in b-minor (after Signor Meck) . . . J. G. Walther Sonata in D-major (Adagio, Allegro) . . . CPE Bach Concert Variations on Austria, opus 4 . . . John Knowles Paine Fanfare in D-major . . . Jacques Lemmens Rondo (Hommage a Moschales) for pedals alone . . . Richard Purvis Allegro Vivace (Symphony I, opus 14) . . . Louis Vierne Toccata (Symphony V) . . . CM Widor   From the dedication brochure: In recent weeks the Pioneer Chapel has been refitted for Ministry in the = New Millennium. The revisions to this beautiful space were the result of one generous gift inspiring another. On March 18, 1999, Marian M. Russell entered the chapel for the Memorial Service of her long-time friend, Rosie =   Syll, to discover that there would be no organ music to lift her spirit. = She decided shortly thereafter to investigate the donating of funds for an = organ for the space in memory of Rosetta Valentine Syll and mentioned her intent = to Pastor Nancy Cushman. After meeting with Don Morse, Minister of Worship = and The Arts, to discuss the possibilities for such an organ, he set out on a search for an instrument worthy of such a generous and beautiful = friendship. Along the way a series of miracles began which brings us to this = dedication. Don found an organ which was built in 1993 for a Dr. Peter Szeibel, of = Fort Dodge, Iowa, by the prestigious firm of Dobson Pipe Organ Builders, of = Lake City, Iowa. Dr. Szeibel was unable to place the organ in his new = residence, and it was in storage at the Dobson Factor, waiting for a new home. = Contact was made through Dobsom Organs, and our Board of Trustees negotiated a mutually beneficial sale of the instrument to Central Church. (snip) This miracle led to the conversations of several other church members who =   felt it was a good time to make changes in the decor and flexibility liturgical furnishings in the chapel. (snip) The floring has been = replaced with non-slip tile of neutral color which has given new life to the = reredos, long overshadowed by the softness and color of the wall-to-wall carpeting. = The reredos can no \w be seen, perhaps for the first time, in its intended =   glorious beauty. New cathedral c hairs were ordered to give flexibiility = in worship, educatino, meditation, and arts events. Existing furniture was repaired and re-stained to match the new chairs. The new seating and tile =   floor affording wonderfully alive acoustics, will also make the room a beautiful space for music-making. (snip)   Specifications of the organ (built by Lynn Dobson 1993) GREAT ORGAN 8 Chimney Flute 56 pipes 8 Salicional (prepared) 4 Principal 56 pipes 2 Gemshorn 56 pipes   SWELL ORGAN 8 Gedackt 56 pipes 4 Koppel Flute 56 pipes 2-2/3 Nazard 56 pipes 1-1/3 Quinte (prepared) 8 Schalmei (Oboe) 56 pipes   PEDAL ORGAN 16 Bourdon 32 pipes 8 Bourdon (ext) 12 pipes   Tremulant (affecting entire organ) Couplers: Great to Pedal, Swell to Pedal, Swell to Great   The appearance of the organ is really incredibly beautiful. I haven't checked, but I really hope that Lynn Dobson has a picture on his web page. = The case is white oak with natural fumed finish, with boards running vertically for the base/console, horizontally for the swell in the center section, and the top section being five pipe flats with copper pipes and beautiful carved pipeshades. Flanking the central case are the basses of the Pedal Bourdon painted a handsome red. The top octave or so of the = red wood pipes are also placed in front of the swell box. The organ sits = on the beautiful neutral colored tile, and against a natural brick wall. = The ceiling appears to be about 25 feet high.   This looks like a really wonderful place.   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Funeral Reflections (xpost) From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:38:11 -0400 (EDT)   I am struck by the pageantry, holiness, and celebration of the funeral of John Cardinal O'Connor. For me, the most poignant moment was the final hymn: millions of viewers hearing the message of "Lift High the Cross", which seemed to be the Cardinal's operating principle.   Our colleague, Donald Dumler, deserves much admiration. The music was uplifting, but not overbearing. The venerable Kilgen served mightily and quite beautifully, I thought. The only fault I can find was the theatrics of the soprano soloist on "Ave Maria," but there's no question that she sang it beautifully.   And to think how unbearably hot they all were.   Forgive me this personal bit, but I also found it especially noteworthy that the former president (a man of honor) was sitting alongside the Cardinal's family -- I shall say no more.   A beautiful mass, a fitting tribute.   God's blessings on you all...   Neil Brown    
(back) Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic) From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:44:16 -0400 (EDT)   My understanding is that weddings here in US ARE valid in other countries, and vice versa. They would need to contact the municipal clerk in the town in which they are to be married to arrange for the proper license, fees, and blood test (if required). This usually must be done within a month prior to the wedding date.   The other option is to have a civil ceremony in Holland, and a church ceremony in US. That's done quite a bit.   Hope this helps.   Neil Brown, sweltering Barnegat NJ USA    
(back) Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic) From: "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:54:04 -0400       Innkawgneeto@webtv.net wrote: > They would need to contact the municipal > clerk in the town in which they are to be married to arrange for the > proper license, fees, and blood test (if required). This usually must > be done within a month prior to the wedding date.   You need to check with the jurisdiction. Just got married a couple of years ago in VA. No blood test, no advanced notice on the license. Had to use the license within 30 or 60 days if I recall. In MD, if there was a waiting period it wasn't more than a day (drove down with a couple from NJ who wanted to get married quickly and they used my apartment in Baltimore).  
(back) Subject: Mother's Day II. (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 13:55:56 -0700   Thanks to all who contributed ... I can only use the one hymn, "Happy the Home", since it IS still Eastertide, and the rest of the hymns have to be of the season.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic) From: "Peder" <peder@carg.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:00:02 -0500   It's unfortunate that it wouldn't apply to Domestic Partners though.... -----Original Message----- From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic)     My understanding is that weddings here in US ARE valid in other countries, and vice versa. They would need to contact the municipal clerk in the town in which they are to be married to arrange for the proper license, fees, and blood test (if required). This usually must be done within a month prior to the wedding date.   The other option is to have a civil ceremony in Holland, and a church ceremony in US. That's done quite a bit.   Hope this helps.   Neil Brown, sweltering Barnegat NJ USA     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Funeral Reflections (xpost) From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:56:06 EDT   In a message dated 5/8/00 4:39:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << A beautiful mass, a fitting tribute. >>   I had to time shift, needing to be out and about during the funeral Mass. = I taped the PBS presentation of the Mass, assuming (correctly) that it would = be pure and untrammeled by some overbearing and insenstive announcer = describing precisely what we were seeing on the screen, usually thereby making it impossible to hear whatever music was being performed. Safe in the = knowledge I would have an undisturbed recording of the Mass, I listened to the CBS Radio coverage in the car. It was, I fear, the usual thing. A brain-dead staff announcer (not a good choice of words) and a rent-a-priest. The announcer chatted away mindlessly and loudly, until the priest finally = said to him: "We have a wonderful soloist, and don't you think we should = listen?" "Great idea," said the announcer, heartily. Score two for priest, zero for =   announcer. The unmistakable notes of the introduction to the Schubert Ave Maria were played, then came the words, loud and clear - "Ave Maria, = gratia plena" - after which the score became instantly tied, as rent-a-priest = said: "Now we are hearing the great song, Panis Angelicus." I thought there = might be a correction at the end, but no such luck - two points lost. I giggled happily into the Post Office. I look forward to looking at the = announcerless tape later this week.   I may be totally alone in this, but I really wish Mr. Innkawgneeto would consider leaving political remarks to some other, appropriate list. The = only way to counter such offensive (to me) stuff is to respond in kind on the = list (which I am ashamed to be doing, however briefly), and then we have been forced to dilute our purpose here.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler        
(back) Subject: Re: Funeral Reflections (xpost) From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:12:50 -0400 (EDT)   Malcolm, you are quite right, and I thought it over when I said what I said. My apologies to the group if my final comments were inappropriate, or offensive.   I'm still glad, however, that I was not there, but here in my air conditioned home watching them swelter (airhead announcers or no).   Peace, Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Mothers' Day (X-posted) From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 09:42:28 +0800   I am probably too late but I have the words for that hymn if you still = need them. However my version is slightly different "O happy home where Thou .....".   If you still need them please reply and I will e-mail them post haste. Bob Elms.   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > Well, it snuck up on me AGAIN. Would anyone who has a Methodist or > Presbyterian hymnal handy please type out the words for "Happy the Home > Where God ..." (St. Agnes) and/or any other appropriate Mothers' Day > hymns that don't descend into great vats of treacle and post them? I > can't go the RC "Jesus' Mother and Mine" route ... our folks don't > connect with that. There is exactly ONE "family" hymn in the 1940, and > it doesn't mention mothers. I've given up on finding an anthem ... the > one I did find said something about "God's Greatest Gift (Mothers)", and > of course that isn't theologically acceptable, hyperbole or not. JESUS > is God's greatest gift, period. > > I'm doing the bulletin this morning, so time is of the essence ... sorry > about the rush call, but as organchatters know, I've been slightly > snowed with funerals, synods, confirmations, etc. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: Funeral Reflections (xpost) From: "Sam Vause" <vause@home.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 18:51:56 -0700   Thank you. Not all of us found the Cardinal to be a pleasant person. = Despite that, I can readily appreciate the great work all the performers = contributed (including the organist). That size of pagentry certainly does create a unique and challenging atmosphere in which to perform. --sam Sam Vause (Chandler, AZ)   ----- Original Message ----- From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Funeral Reflections (xpost)     Malcolm, you are quite right, and I thought it over when I said what I said. My apologies to the group if my final comments were inappropriate, or offensive.   I'm still glad, however, that I was not there, but here in my air conditioned home watching them swelter (airhead announcers or no).   Peace, Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic) From: "Sam Vause" <vause@home.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 18:52:59 -0700   Amen! And I daresay there's plenty of organists who would agree! --sam Sam Vause (Chandler, AZ)   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peder" <peder@carg.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic)     It's unfortunate that it wouldn't apply to Domestic Partners though.... -----Original Message----- From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic)   My understanding is that weddings here in US ARE valid in other countries, and vice versa. They would need to contact the municipal clerk in the town in which they are to be married to arrange for the ...      
(back) Subject: Cardinal O'Connor's Funeral (X-posted) From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:16:13 -0700   If anyone wants to discuss the Cardinal, please e-mail me privately. I'm not going to say what I have to say in open chat, though I probably SHOULD.   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Cardinal O'Connor's Funeral (X-posted) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:26:03   At 08:16 PM 5/8/2000 -0700, you wrote: >If anyone wants to discuss the Cardinal, please e-mail me privately. I'm >not going to say what I have to say in open chat, though I probably >SHOULD.<snip>   OK...be that way...bait us with a tasty morsel and then vanish!   Harumph!   dB  
(back) Subject: Re: Cardinal O'Connor's Funeral (X-posted) From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:47:56 EDT   Yes, you SHOULD!!!  
(back) Subject: Re: Cardinal O'Connor's Funeral (X-posted) From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:56:11 EDT   Bud---- Absolutely! You should by all means. Regards, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Cardinal O'Connor (X-posted) From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 22:01:12 -0700   No, I won't discuss the late Cardinal publicly because I promised the moderators of both lists that I would stick (more-or-less) to organ-related topics and avoid "controversial" issues.   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic) From: "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 00:52:03 CDT   Is this really necessary? What does this have to do with the pipe organ?     >From: "Sam Vause" <vause@home.com> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic) >Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 18:52:59 -0700 > >Amen! And I daresay there's plenty of organists who would agree! >--sam >Sam Vause (Chandler, AZ) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peder" <peder@carg.com> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 2:00 PM >Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic) > > >It's unfortunate that it wouldn't apply to Domestic Partners though.... >-----Original Message----- >From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 3:45 PM >Subject: Re: An out of town wedding!(slightly off-topic) > >My understanding is that weddings here in US ARE valid in other >countries, and vice versa. They would need to contact the municipal >clerk in the town in which they are to be married to arrange for the ... > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com