PipeChat Digest #1398 - Wednesday, May 17, 2000
 
organ and saxophone? (xpost)
  by "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu>
Re: Organ comment
  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net>
Fwd: Organ Xplosion
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: direct electric vs. electro-pneumatic
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Here's *why* EP to EM - Bob
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: direct electric vs. electro-pneumatic vs...
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Martha vs. Mary vs. Dorothy Day
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Martha vs. Mary vs. Dorothy Day
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: direct electric vs. electro-pneumatic vs...
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Rutz Organ Company
  by "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@lvcm.com>
 


(back) Subject: organ and saxophone? (xpost) From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:53:20 -0500   Greetings--     I'm in the market for a piece or two for organ and alto or soprano saxophone. Any suggestions?   I'm not interested in an arrangement (ie, Albinoni 'adagio') or reduction, but something composed for the instruments. I'm also hoping to find a piece or pieces of some weight, length, and substance.   Private replies are just fine.   Wishing you well from southern Indiana--       Jonathan B. Hall, fago Bloomington      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ comment From: "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:36:37 -0500   .. We visited > the First Congregational Church of St Louis (which oddly enough is in > Clayton) and heard a 1929 Austin that according to the organist has had = a > few modifications. What impressed me was that it all sounded true to the > original ideal. > Does anyone know more about this instrument? I'm = curious who made the > modifications as it was work well done and deserving of recognition.   Oddly enough, I was visiting this very same organ on Saturday. This organ has gone through several different stages of modification. Some "unearthing" was done to get the sound out of the chambers and into = the church. This started by having all the reeds revoiced to be a bit louder = at the Wicks shop. The 50 or 60 year old grillcloth was removed, which = helped the sound greatly. Many of the ranks were revoiced to be louder and more present. I believe a rank of principals was added as well as a pedal trumpet. These modifications were made by Ron Hall (the organist), Chris Off, assisted by Cam Newlon. The console was rebuilt and modernized by Peterson. Currently, all of the primaries in the Swell and Solo are being replaced by members of the Wicks Service Department. They are still not quite finished. Ron says he thinks the reeds can be = even louder. He would like to make some additions, but unfortunately, the = organ chambers are quite packed (trust me!) All in all, the intention is to maintain the ideal 1929 Austin sound, and = I think so far they've done a great job. Brent Johnson The Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com brent@organwebring.com      
(back) Subject: Fwd: Organ Xplosion From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:08:47 -0500   This was sent to the Admin Account for posting. If you have=20 questions please reply to the address at the bottom NOT back to the=20 list.   David   > > >NEW RELEASE FROM NPC RECORDS > >KEVIN BOWYER'S ORGAN XPLOSION > >One of the world's finest organists, Kevin Bowyer plays a fantastic=20 >selection of organ favourites on the newly restored Taylor organ in=20 >the De Montfort Hall, Leicester. > >Kevin displays his true virtuosity and dazzling technique on this=20 >magnificent instrument. > >Described as "speaker shattering" by Gramophone magazine. > > >Price: =A39.99 p&p free in the UK, =A31.50 for orders to the USA and=20 >=A32.00 Rest of the World. > >Phone: +44 (0) 114 272 1194 >Fax: +44 (0) 114 272 9669 >Email: <mailto:npc.records@virginnet.co.uk>npc.records@virginnet.co.uk >   **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org 850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Re: direct electric vs. electro-pneumatic From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:20:20 EDT   In a message dated 5/16/00 2:28:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   > I disagree in this case. To me, "meals on wheels" to the bedridden sick > who have minimal ability to self-support is FAR more important than ANY > organ. There are a lot of suffering people out there, no matter WHAT = the > republicans try to tell ya! Excuse me! But ther are other places in the budget to cut or from which funds can be extracted (the minister's fat salary comes to mind) before something as vital to worship as the pipe organ. Does the word "stewardship" have meaning. If we do attend to the spiritual needs of parishoners, WHO is going to put money in the plate to be used to feed the =   hungry, house the homeless, etc, etc, etc. Priorities, friends! There = are many, MANY programs in todays churches which could be eliminated in favor = of feeding the poor.   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Here's *why* EP to EM - Bob From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:17:16 EDT   In a message dated 5/16/00 5:31:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, chorale@clara.co.uk writes:   > We can share the job of looking out for that > meteorite...... Thanks, Chris.... and welcome. My hope is that the meteorite will hit me smacko directly dead on (so to speak!!)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: direct electric vs. electro-pneumatic vs... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:17:21 EDT   In a message dated 5/16/00 7:46:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = KriderSM@aol.com writes:   > Perhaps you who favor trackers ought to communicate with ink and quills; =   > typewriters if electropneumatic is your choice; faxes for those who support > direct electric actions; and email be restricted to those who want to = use > electronic instruments.   To think that EVERYTHING old is bad or wrong and that EVERYTHING new is = good and right is just.... unreasonable and carrying things to the extreme. = If there is the way we are to approach reasoning, we might as well just sign = off!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Martha vs. Mary vs. Dorothy Day From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:17:18 EDT   In a message dated 5/16/00 1:24:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   > Without becoming uncharacteristicly theological, wouldn't it be better = some > of that $185K go to the sick and helpless in the parish than all to a = new > sanctuary and organ? Which is more Christ-like to you? These people are ALREADY making contributions to the church funds which support the poor. They are probably also contributing to other charities = as well. The poor will be with us always!   Give a man a fish and he will eat for one day. Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer for the = rest of his life!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Martha vs. Mary vs. Dorothy Day From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:40:53   At 11:17 PM 5/16/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Give a man a fish and he will eat for one day. >Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer for the = rest >of his life!<snip>   AwRIGHT! FISHIN'! <burp>   dB  
(back) Subject: Re: direct electric vs. electro-pneumatic vs... From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:41:24   At 11:17 PM 5/16/2000 EDT, you wrote: >To think that EVERYTHING old is bad or wrong and that EVERYTHING new is = good >and right is just.... unreasonable and carrying things to the extreme.<snipo>   ....and who said THAT? Not I! Certainly that which is old and good AND economically viable should stick around. However, if technological improvement lowers costs while retaining quality, thus ensuring a bright future, I don't have a problem with that...as long as it's well done! "Squeaker" organs, with obsolete, unworkable temperments and strictly vertically oriented specifications, "classic" (meaning sagging) winding systems and construction and assembly details dating back hundreds of = years will soon be viewed as viable as the groaning, unison-only, hooting = turkeys of the early 20th century. Methinks there're too many "back the future" fads that have afflicted the organ in the last 50 years or so. Harrison, Willis and others corrected the tonal abberations of the Hope-Jones-led "revolution" in building, but then the pendulum swung just as wildly back to new organs seemingly born from antiquity! Just how much literature by Buxtehude, Frescobaldi and Pachelbel can one stand, anyway?? A truly modern organ gives homage to the organ's tonal past while retaining flexibility and innovation to contend with all schools. Try Franck on a Werckmeister-tempered "schqueaker" sometime ... yeeeeeeeeeesh!   dB  
(back) Subject: Rutz Organ Company From: "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@lvcm.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 00 22:49:14 -0700   http://www.rutzoci.com/index.html   Here is their web address. Included is an intereting article on CNC routers.   Bruce