PipeChat Digest #1409 - Sunday, May 21, 2000
 
Re: Holtkamp
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: authenticity
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
I'm home
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: The 4 organs of the M=FCnster Cathedral
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Re: Holtkamp
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: Holtkamp
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Xpost:  Recital Program --  Tyler Robertson UFla
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
SMFiles from Rodgers PR300 .. Help
  by "Ron Pearcy" <ronniep@clear.net.nz>
Fwd: SMFiles from Rodgers PR300 .. Help
  by "Ron Pearcy" <ronniep@clear.net.nz>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Holtkamp From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 06:57:17 -0400   At 12:56 AM 5/20/00 EDT, Malcolm the Mander Maven wrote: > I do believe you are right >in saying that Walter Jr. (Chick) has turned the business over to his son =   >(Chicklet), who, I am told, has a great aptitude for, and interest in, = the >art of Organbuilding. I personally hope the name will live on with >distinction   You and Bud are right that Chris (as in Christian) Holtkamp is heading the firm now. Chick is semi-retired (whatever that means).   You two must, repeat must, hear the Holtkamp at the University of Alabama. It is wonderful, superb, fine, extra fine, and for me, the finest example of a musical instrument that the Holtkamp firm has ever built.   Warren Hutton wrote a fabulous spec and Chick Holtkamp and Company built = it and voiced it. It is an awesome instrument. I've heard many concerts on = it, played it, and have worn out Todd's recording of it.   It's a must hear when you're in the Birmingham area.   Warren, I think, hangs out some on PIPORG-L.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea Happy 'cause there are no weddings, funerals, bars and bats to play today!    
(back) Subject: Re: authenticity From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 19:47:38 +0800   Hey Bruce you have a habit of tarring everything that doesn't please you = with the same brush, sometimes when you obviously have little knowledge of your subject (in this case unit organs)   I play a unit organ in my church and it is very good indeed. We hada = recital by Dame Gillian Weir, who came back on her own suggestion for a second, and = one by Thomas Trotter, who also seemed to be enjoying himself. M artin Mans of = Holland has played two or three and experssed himself delighted with the organ. = The organ handles most of the repertoire very well. It does a good job with = Bach (no not authentic) and its fine swell chorus reed makes it fine for the French repertoire.   We are not all incumbents at wealthy churches; our musicans are unpaid. = They do the job for the love of it, and I wouldn't change that. It makes for real dedication. In our case and many other cases in this state it was unit = organ or electronic. We chose unit and they are doing a fine job. Our builder has = reduced the building of unit organs to an art form. To sneer at organs such as = this with no knowledge of what we have is sheer music snobbery, Bruce. I am a "poor = dupe" (thank you for the expression) and I am very happy with what I have, thank = you! Consider yourself admonished. B. E. Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > Why not? Do you think the people who had unit organs installed and = (God > forbid) electronics installed in their churches considered the poor dupe = who > would follow them. Not on your life.    
(back) Subject: I'm home From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 10:08:15 EDT   In a message dated 5/20/00 10:04:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Myosotis51 writes:   << Dear friends, I want to thank all of you for being there for me, both online and = offline, during the past few weeks. It's been a really bumpy ride, with = discovering the cancer and splitting with Ray, as well as losing my cat. My surgery was on Thursday. It went well. The doctor is confident that = he got it all. I'm pretty sore and I have three incisions - one, the = lumpectomy site where the tumor was removed, one where the left lymph nodes were = taken out, and one where a LifePort was installed. A LifePort is put in under = the skin and is an easier way to get IVs, which is very good as my veins are notoriously hard to locate. I will start chemotherapy in about 6 weeks = after the incisions are healed. I will find out if there was cancer in the lymph nodes on Tuesday, which = is when the drains will be removed (and maybe some of the stitches). The = node status will determine the course of chemotherapy. Radiation therapy will commence after I'm through with chemo. I am very well cared for. My car keys have been confiscated, and I'm required to rest. I'm not very good at it, but I suppose I'll have to learn. Again, my friends, thank you for being there. XOXOXO Vicki >>  
(back) Subject: Re: The 4 organs of the M=FCnster Cathedral From: "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:13:30 -0400   > I believe Munster means cathedral>>>   That word "munster" with the 2 dots over it means a pattern or design. I have a lot of weaving and other needlework books printed in German, Swedish and related languages, and they are "munster" or "monster" books. In other works, they contain directions and graphed designs. It's a very old term, still in use. Frankenstein's "monster" was simply his invention, his new design, although it didn't work out too well and the term has taken on an = altogether different meaning in English. I suspect that if that's the name of the cathedral, it means something along the line of "The New Design Cathedral", and nothing more fancy.   Of course, unless it has multiple meanings, like the word well. Well, are you well today down there in the well?   Diane S.------tired of a week of 40 degree rain      
(back) Subject: Re: Holtkamp From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:07:07 -0700   I HAVE heard MANY good things about the U. of A. Holtkamp.   "Dr. Darryl Miller" wrote:   > At 12:56 AM 5/20/00 EDT, Malcolm the Mander Maven wrote: > > I do believe you are right > >in saying that Walter Jr. (Chick) has turned the business over to his = son > >(Chicklet), who, I am told, has a great aptitude for, and interest in, = the > >art of Organbuilding. I personally hope the name will live on with > >distinction > > You and Bud are right that Chris (as in Christian) Holtkamp is heading = the > firm now. Chick is semi-retired (whatever that means).   That's about right ... I think Oberlin's Holtkamp (the second one, for new Warner, now in Texas) was among the first that Chick was involved in ... = didn't Walter Sr. die before it was finished? ... that would have been around '64 = or '65 ... he would have been in his 30s or early 40s then ...   Aside from the fact that organ was a compromise (Fenner wanted the = Flentrop from the beginning; the rest of the faculty wanted a more all-purpose instrument), it was never quite as successful as it should have been, = given the stoplist and the size. I wonder if it wasn't the placement (high up behind = the rather deep stage) and the lack of a case to focus the sound in that = particular room. As I recall, the biggest problem was that you would see the organist changing stops and manuals, but nothing much would happen to the sound, seemingly. Those are my recollections, at any rate.   Cheers,   Bud   > > > You two must, repeat must, hear the Holtkamp at the University of = Alabama. > It is wonderful, superb, fine, extra fine, and for me, the finest = example > of a musical instrument that the Holtkamp firm has ever built. > > Warren Hutton wrote a fabulous spec and Chick Holtkamp and Company built = it > and voiced it. It is an awesome instrument. I've heard many concerts on = it, > played it, and have worn out Todd's recording of it. > > It's a must hear when you're in the Birmingham area. > > Warren, I think, hangs out some on PIPORG-L. > > Yours, > > Darryl by the Sea > Happy 'cause there are no weddings, funerals, bars and bats to play = today! > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Holtkamp From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:08:04 -0500   Bud:   I arrived at Oberlin with the Flentrop. Warner is not the most hospitable environment one would wish to provide for any organ. The most successful venture may turn out to be the Fisk in Finney.   Peter    
(back) Subject: Xpost: Recital Program -- Tyler Robertson UFla From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:59:53 EDT   Friday evening, 19 May (8 pm), Tyler Robertson played a recital at the Memorial Auditorium of the University of Florida (Skinner/AEolian-Skinner/Moller 5/100) His program follows: Sonata IV (Allegro maestoso e vivace) ... Mendelssohn Passacaglia & Fugue in c-minor ... Bach Folkloric Suite (V. Rhapsodie sur deux noels) ... Langlais Fugue sur le nom d'Alain (op. 7) ... Durufle Scenes of Childhood .... John Leavitt +++ I Autumn Fires, II Rain, III The Cow, IV The Moon, V Pirate Story +++ Praeludium and Fugue uber B-A-C-H ... Liszt ~~~~ Now that you have read the program and thought "OK, typical program for a university recital", I'll share with you that this was done by a = highschool senior who has been studying at UF in special program for exceptional students (and this guy does qualify!).   He was obviously nervous (as anyone at his age would be), but his playing seldom showed it. A few times there would be the tension-related accelerations in tempo, but he always recovered, getting a grip, and = regained control. His playing was very clean and accurate, despite problems with = the digital controls of the organ (octaves missing, stops not playing!). He = did mention when I talked with him last week, "Ya know... this wouldn't happen = on a tracker!!" hehehe I like this kid!   I missed most of the Mendelssohn, but arrived for the grand conclusion (it =   was sort of like getting to church late!) as I approached the building and =   made my way through the various entry stages.   The Passacaglia was very academic, but as the piece settles in and he = matures I think he will do some wonderful things with it. His cadenza was quite well done and pointed up thematic material rather than just showing off.   The Langlais was one of my favorites. This was extremely sensitively = played and he took great care in the thematic appearances. Registration was = very, very creative, and where "French" was not possible, it was replaced with colorfully interesting and tastefully appropriate! Tyler proved in this piece that he really knows how to use his ears as well as his fingers and feet.   I don't think I've ever heard the Durufle played this cleanly. It was not = as fast as usually played on CDs and I found it much more enjoyable. His articulation was very clean and crisp, and his phrasing very sensitive. Registration was quite thoughtful, especially considering that this is one = of those "no-style" instruments that does nothing authentically. All of the Skinner reeds (save the Clarinet & English Horn) are gone and the squally Moller reeds in an almost dead room somehow don't excite me! Steroidic chiffing of the Positiv flutes (a hat-tip to the Baroque) did not enhance = the piece, especially in contrast to the non-chiffing flutes of the Swell and romantic (old Skinner) flutes of the Choir which dont' really hang = together. All this considered, my attention remained primarily on the notes and how =   they were played. I think Tyler could play this piece on one stop = throughout and still be musical and maintain audience interest.   The Scenes of Childhood were very well done. I purchased this last year, = but lost interest in it. Tyler almost rekindled my desire to learn it. I = just don't think the quality of the piece is consistent throughout, however. = His playing of it showed that he enjoyed it and wanted us to do so as well. Again, his creative registration was a great contribution to maintaining audience attention. He even managed to get some snickers out of the typically reserved academia present.   After arriving still seemingly fresh and relaxed at the final piece, his preference of selections was revealed. He grabbed the "BACH" by the tail =   and swung it around like a cowboy with a lariat (well, he IS from = Texas!!). He really enjoyed this piece and dove in full force. His tempo was very flexible and dramatic, and kept me on the edge of my seat. Again, registration played a key roll in the excitement of his playing. His pedal technique simply appears to be effortless and so graceful (is it legal to = say that about a Texan??). His physical movement while playing was very conservative, but his hand position remained very close to the keyboard = and very relaxed. Because of the distance from the console to the organ it = was very surprising that such nuances could be managed by one of "tender age." =   In addition, his spoken program notes were interesting and informative, = and, again, revealed his love for the music he played. I must confess I did = not read the printed program notes, as I left my glasses in the car!!! = Sheesh -- senior moment!!!   Remember the name Tyler Robertson. This cowboy is going to be riding = high soon!!! Anyone looking for a young artist to inspire young audiences = (and older ones, too) would do well to have him play for them.   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: SMFiles from Rodgers PR300 .. Help From: "Ron Pearcy" <ronniep@clear.net.nz> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:11:52 +0000 (GMT)   Greetings,   I am one of a small group of Rodgers Users interchanging our own MIDI files with each other.   One member is using a PR300S and is able to easily 'save' MIDI files in = SMF format, ensuring ease of use for others using alternative sequencers.   Another member uses a PR300 but seems unable to save files in Standard = MIDI Format (ie SMF) Is it possible to save a file in SMF format from a Rodgers PR300 (the = model before the PR300S) .. if so, please, how can this be done?   Ever so grateful for any suggestions.   Ronnie   -- ----- Ron Pearcy <ronniep@clear.net.nz> 17 Donegal Crescent, = Greenswood, Greenmeadows, Napier, New Zealand -------  
(back) Subject: Fwd: SMFiles from Rodgers PR300 .. Help From: "Ron Pearcy" <ronniep@clear.net.nz> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:34:34 +0000 (GMT)     Many thanks Bill .. .. shall pass this on to the party concerned.   Please let me know when your Page for PR300S owners is up and running, will have some material to contribute for you. By the way I am now using a Roland MC-80 .. ever so much better than the MC-50MkII I had been using previously and more comprehensive than the PR300S .. worth checking out!   Best Wishes, Ronnie   And yes please, would very much like a copy of PR300fix .. thank you.     ------ Forwarded message ------ From: Bill Betts <bill@CHURCHMUSICSERVICES.COM> Date: 21 May 2000 0240 Subject: SMFiles from Rodgers PR300 .. Help     Ron   It is done the same way on both sequencers. The problem is that you = cannot save both kinds of files on the same disk.   There is a secondary problem if the disk in use has been formatted on a Windows 9x machine or even sometimes on the PR300S and then tried to be used on the PR300. This requires a little program called PR300fix. These sequencers are like any computer instrument--going from older to newer is OK but going from newer to older tends to cause problems. If you want a copy of PR300fix let me know.   Bill Betts Church Music Services Richmond, Virginia     BTW, my webserver will shortly be moved into my studio. When that happens there will be a page on it for PR300S users--interchange of files, Questions & Answers--things like that.   ------ End forwarded message ------   -- ----- Ron Pearcy <ronniep@clear.net.nz> 17 Donegal Crescent, = Greenswood, Greenmeadows, Napier, New Zealand -------