PipeChat Digest #1412 - Monday, May 22, 2000
 
Re: Catholic Organist?????
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Fw: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character.
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character.
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: Catholic Organist?????
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Fw: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character.
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Biggs at Radio City?
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character.
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
RE: Biggs at Radio City?
  by "Charles E. Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net>
Re: Catholic Organist--could be worse
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Re: Catholic Organist?????
  by "Maynard Cuppy" <cuppy.maynard@mcleodusa.net>
ethics
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: ethics
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: Catholic Organist?????
  by "Bill Morton" <wjm@pacbell.net>
Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character.
  by <DEMPAR1@aol.com>
Looking for Joe Wise Music
  by "Joe Elliffe" <jelliffe@atlantic.net>
Re: pitch (X-posted)
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character.
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Fw: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character.
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Catholic Organist--could be worse
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
theatre organ question
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Catholic Organist?????
  by "Stephen Ohmer" <knopfregal@yahoo.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Catholic Organist????? From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:59:29 -0700   Sorry, but this whole business doesn't sound entirely accurate.   First of all, one does not "rent" a Roman Catholic church for anything.   Second, any couple seeking to be married in a Roman Catholic church has to undergo Pre-Cana counseling, which in this archdiocese lasts around six = months, I believe. So there isn't just a single meeting with the priest, unless = Pre-Cana and all the paperwork has been done elsewhere (as is often the case with = college students).   Third, except in unusual circumstances, couples are usually married in the bride's parish church. Failing that, at least ONE of the parties HAS to be = a practicing Catholic with a home parish. Occasionally, circumstances may = dictate that the wedding be held elsewhere, but it's my understanding that = SOMEBODY concerned has to have SOME connection with the parish where the wedding is = to be held.   St. Matthew's is ANGLICAN Catholic, and we only marry parishioners; that = was the old RC rule.   Now, there ARE a couple of possibilities here:   (1) in the old days (pre-Vatican II), non-Roman Catholics WEREN'T allowed = to do ANYTHING at Roman Catholic weddings ... sing, play, be in the wedding = party, etc. Some priests (particularly the infamous FBIs) still hew to that rule.   (2) more LIKELY, the priest had previously had the experience of a = non-Roman Catholic organist coming in who didn't have a CLUE as to the liturgical regulations, appropriate music, how to play the Nuptial Mass, etc. etc. = etc. Given the shortage of RC priests, most wouldn't have TIME to give a = non-Roman Catholic organist a crash course in all that.   Granted, most Anglican or Lutheran organists SHOULD be able to find their = way through an RC Nuptial Mass today, AND know what music's appropriate, and = many Anglican and Lutheran organists DO serve in RC churches ... I have. But = further afield than that (mainline Protestant, etc.) could be problematical from a practical standpoint ... knowledge of the liturgy, etc.   I disagree with ALL priests at LEAST 50% of the time, but I'm with the = priest on this one.   Father Scarlett has engaged a non-Anglican for my substitute while I'm on vacation in July ... his comment: "I won't do THAT again. I don't have = TIME to teach a substitute our liturgy from scratch."   Cheers,   Bud   Jason Comet wrote:   > I was asked by an acquantance of mine to be the organist for her = sister's > wedding. They rented the church and had the initial wedding "meeting" = with > the priest. The priest told them that they didn't have an organist. = The > priest then asked them if they have found an organist. The party told = him > that they wanted me. The priests first question was "Is he Catholic?" = The > party told him that he played at the UCC church in town. The priest = said, > "No! He's not Catholic!" > > Has anybody ever had this done to them????????? > > I'm OUTRAGED!!!!!!! and find the whole thing stupid at the same time! = Why? > > The exact same priest asked me last year to be their organist/choir > director. He KNEW I played at the UM Church just on the other block. = The > exterior walls of the churches were facing each other!!!!! > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Fw: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:58:56 -0500   A calliope-like whistle, perhaps?   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 9:47 AM Subject: Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character.     > At 09:21 AM 5/22/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >in this case, perhaps adding another Tibia unit to the organ > >(grin).<snip> > > ...or one of those Diapason Phonon smudge-pot looking thingies! A mouth > with NO sides...WHAT was he thinking??? > > DeserTBoB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character. From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:03:53 EDT   They still sway me. Who hasn't heard a theater organ and said to themselves, "Wow! Now that's what organs are supposed to sound like!"   I suspect that thought never quite occurred to Biggs!  
(back) Subject: Re: Catholic Organist????? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:03:36   At 03:11 PM 5/22/2000 EDT, Jason Ajax wrote:   >"No! He's not Catholic!" > >Has anybody ever had this done to them?????????<snip>   Happens all the time...which is another part of the reason RC churches on the whole don't have any decent music. This isn't anything new, either...it's been going on since I can remember.   >I'm OUTRAGED!!!!!!! and find the whole thing stupid at the same time! = Why?   Maybe it's because you wouldn't convert? Such parochialism has returned since John XXIII went away, and has intensified during the ultraconservative reign of "The Big Pole". Look for possible changes = after he cashes in, which will depend on how well Polski has the College's deck stacked, which appears to be pretty well in his favor right now.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Fw: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:12:15 -0500   Speaking of Mr. Biggs....did he REALLY play at Radio City? I suspect he didn't....but Mr. Fox would!     ----- Original Message ----- From: <DudelK@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character.     > They still sway me. Who hasn't heard a theater organ and said to > themselves, "Wow! Now that's what organs are supposed to sound like!" > > I suspect that thought never quite occurred to Biggs! > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Biggs at Radio City? From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:06:01 EDT   Speaking of Mr. Biggs....did he REALLY play at Radio City? I suspect he didn't....but Mr. Fox would!   Actually I believe he did at least once, but I'm at the office and the = Owen Biggs book is at home.  
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character. From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:27:33 EDT   Who hasn't heard a theater organ and said to themselves " Wow! Now that's what organs are supposed to sound like!".   While I can appreciate a theater organ as well as most any pipe organ not everyone can. This reminds me of a story that I heard about G. Donald Harrison. I do not know how true this story is but here it is: Shortly after Mr. Harrison came to the USA he was sent to service an Estey =   theater organ with a "luminous" console. To show his contempt for this creation he left a certain pattern of stops set in the stop controls. For those of you that have never seen a luminous console ( I haven't ), the = stops light up when pulled, hence the name. When the lights went down for the = next show, there was the luminous console with it's stops glowing brightly. On = the left side Mr. Harrison had pulled stops to make the pattern "SH". You can guess what he pattern he made on the right side. The people in the balcony =   had a perfect view of this and got a good laugh out of it.   Alan B.  
(back) Subject: RE: Biggs at Radio City? From: "Charles E. Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:21:57 -0000   Yes...he did play the RCMH Wurlitzer briefly in 1971 or so.   The occasion was a jubilee concert put on by the then leading classical recording label of Columbia Records. Many others were featured from the label; including Anthony Newman, etc.   Mr. Biggs played the Tocatta and Fugue in d and, later, joined in the = grand finale of the Stars and Stripes Forever.   I was assigned the job of coaching him on the console and had the distinct feeling that this was the closest he had ever been to a theatre organ of = any sort. As a matter of fact, during rehearsal, he clicked on the = glockenspiel, by accident, during the fugue. At that point, we set ONE piston and he did everything on that one set.   He was completely gone during the finale and I decided to jump on the = other console and play it from there (from behind the curtain). It was not a pretty sight!!!!! LOL   Charles E. Brown http://www.classicalcorner.com       -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of DudelK@aol.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 9:06 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Biggs at Radio City?     Speaking of Mr. Biggs....did he REALLY play at Radio City? I suspect he didn't....but Mr. Fox would!   Actually I believe he did at least once, but I'm at the office and the = Owen Biggs book is at home.   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Catholic Organist--could be worse From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:45:26 -0400     ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Catholic Organist?????     > At 03:11 PM 5/22/2000 EDT, Jason Ajax wrote: > > >"No! He's not Catholic!" > > > >Has anybody ever had this done to them?????????<snip> > > Happens all the time...which is another part of the reason RC churches = on > the whole don't have any decent music. This isn't anything new, > either...it's been going on since I can remember. > > >I'm OUTRAGED!!!!!!! and find the whole thing stupid at the same time!   Could be worse. When I was 16 I went to practice at my little French-Catholic church (the Kleenex box with the Lane) one Saturday = morning only to discover a wedding in progress and the organ in use....   The final insult was that this person was using all 4's, chords in the = left hand, no pedal, and rode the swell pedal like a bucking bronco.   It was pretty insulting, even for a 16-year-old.   -Rebekah      
(back) Subject: Re: Catholic Organist????? From: "Maynard Cuppy" <cuppy.maynard@mcleodusa.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:46:16 -0500   I'm not Catholic, but I suspect it has a lot to do with the priest. I had = no trouble getting approval to play my sister's wedding (she's not Catholic = either, but her husband is), and I've played one or two other big wedings in that = same church.   As for his asking you to be their organist/choir director while you were employed by another church: I consider this extremely unethical, and I'm = sure I'm not alone in that. He should have made inquiries to find out if you = were available before he approached you. Maynard   Jason Comet wrote:   > I was asked by an acquantance of mine to be the organist for her = sister's > wedding. They rented the church and had the initial wedding "meeting" = with > the priest. The priest told them that they didn't have an organist. = The > priest then asked them if they have found an organist. The party told = him > that they wanted me. The priests first question was "Is he Catholic?" = The > party told him that he played at the UCC church in town. The priest = said, > "No! He's not Catholic!" > > Has anybody ever had this done to them????????? > > I'm OUTRAGED!!!!!!! and find the whole thing stupid at the same time! = Why? > > The exact same priest asked me last year to be their organist/choir > director. He KNEW I played at the UM Church just on the other block. = The > exterior walls of the churches were facing each other!!!!! > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: ethics From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:29:37 -0700       Maynard Cuppy wrote:   > (snip) > > As for his asking you to be their organist/choir director while you were > employed by another church: I consider this extremely unethical, and I'm = sure > I'm not alone in that. He should have made inquiries to find out if you = were > available before he approached you.   Maynard     Bud replies:   The AGO Code of Ethics says we as organists cannot seek another position = as long as it's filled by a colleague (unless notice has been given and a future = vacancy announced), but I see nothing wrong with an EMPLOYER seeking to recruit an = employee who's currently employed elsewhere. Happens all the time, in every field = imaginable.   What frosts MY ferns is when a church starts looking BEFORE they give = notice of termination to the current incumbent, as happened to Dennis, and as is = undoubtedly happening at my church now. Wish it'd happen to ME a little more often = (grin) ...   But, come to think of it, they hired ME before they gave the previous = organist notice, and *I* was the one who insisted they give him two months' severance/vacation pay. That was somewhat of a gray area ... the choir = director was retiring, he couldn't conduct the choir, and they were combining the two = positions. As it ended up, I had emergency surgery just before I was to start and he = stayed on for three additional months.   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: Re: ethics From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:32:23 EDT   In a message dated 5/22/2000 7:29:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << The AGO Code of Ethics says we as organists cannot seek another = position as long as it's filled by a colleague (unless notice has been given and a future = vacancy announced), but I see nothing wrong with an EMPLOYER seeking to recruit = an employee who's currently employed elsewhere. Happens all the time, in every field imaginable. >>   Wouldn't they almost have to go to other churches to find organists and choirmasters? It's not like there is an abundance of us just sitting = around checking the papers for music jobs!   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: Catholic Organist????? From: "Bill Morton" <wjm@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:21:24 -0700     Let me provide an alternate story which shows that it depends largely on the church and the organist (and, of course, the priest). My brother was married in a Catholic church in Canajoharie, NY (I know, not in a MAJOR VENUE!) about 10 years ago. His bride was Catholic; he was not. The church was an antique building and had a neat old pipe organ (sorry, but I =   cannot even remember who the organist or the builder was) with the console =   located at the very back of the balcony. During the rehearsal I wandered =   up and talked to the organist (really just to see the organ console, which =   turned out to be a 2M), and he volunteered to stand aside to let me play the wedding the next day. He even said he'd waive his normal organist fee! I declined, since I was to be the best man, but I think there would have been no problem in that particular site. I did play on the organ for =   a few minutes after the rehearsal just to see what it felt like.    
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character. From: <DEMPAR1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:32:54 EDT   It has been said that Hope-Jones was a great inventor but a poor = businessman. I would submit to you that Farney Wurlitzer was the poor businessman. He = let one of the greatest engineering talents in the history of organs go simply =   because he was he did not have the business smarts to realize that = Hope-Jones should have never been put in the position of manager of the T.O. = Division. Almost any business operator can tell you that personnel assessment and development is one of the most important of management functions. Old = Farney should have realized after a month or two into the association that Hope-Jones needed to be placed as director of research and developement = and not as manager of the construction department. If Jones had been left = alone in a laboratory to design bigger and better diaphones, and Marr and Colton =   had been jointly placed in charge of construction and sales, the story = would have taken a drastically different turn.  
(back) Subject: Looking for Joe Wise Music From: "Joe Elliffe" <jelliffe@atlantic.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:10:38 -0400   Can anyone tell me where to get a copy of a piece called "Lord Teach Us to Pray" by Joe Wise- I've had a request for this but I don't have it in my file- Thanks for any info you can give me Joe    
(back) Subject: Re: pitch (X-posted) From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:11:29 -0500   No one wants to sound flat, so they push the pitch to equal or exceed tha= t of the "high man, or woman". This leads to pushing past the next "high man"= etc. Roy   Lef=E8vre wrote:   > Dear Roy, > What is the meaning of "high man syndrome"? > My mother language is dutch, so I can't understand everything in Eglish > writing. > Thanks > Vincent Lef=E8vre > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: dimanche 21 mai 2000 15:29 > Subject: Re: pitch (X-posted) > > > The question of pitch is extremely interesting since it has varied so= much > over > > the centuries, and with wind instruments is so dependent on temperatu= re. > It > > has frequently been noted that the pitch of mouth blown instruments c= an > easily > > rise 2 hz or cps > > after having been played 10 minutes. Then there is the high man synd= rome > which > > makes us all push the pitch up slightly in > > order not to sound flat. The Fisk people checked the Dallas > > Symphony and found that they typically played as high as 443.5 > > even though they tuned near 440. Therefore the organ was tuned to 44= 3.5, > but a > > pitch pipe was installed to give the orchestra > > a 440 for initial tuning. So much for perfect pitch eh??? > > Roy > > > > Bob Elms wrote: > > > > > I wonder how they achieve a=3D444. I have a fairly expensive oboe w= hich I > > > play. With the reed pushed right in it plays a=3D440. It would neve= r > achieve > > > a=3D444. I believe the clarinets and some other instruments could b= e in > > > trouble too. I have never heard of any orchestra in this country pl= aying > > > anything but a=3D440, but that does not mean they do not. If the or= chestra > is > > > all strings that would be a different matter. > > > > > > B. E. > > > > > > Quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > > > > > I forget which list the pitch discussion is on, but here's Maestr= o > Ivan > > > > Fischer, Conductor of the Budapest Festival Orchestra, on the sub= ject: > > > > > > > > "Musical pitch is gradually moving up. In the eighteenth century = music > > > > was played semitone lower. However it has not been constant. Ther= e > were > > > > local differences. There were many attempts to agree about a pitc= h. > Near > > > > the end of the nineteenth century the "Viennese a" has been agre= ed > to: > > > > it was a=3D435. But it kept creeping up. Later a=3D440 was agreed= .. However > > > > some orchestras play with a=3D444 Hz. > > > > The reason is not pipes. It is a natural surge to make music soun= d > more > > > > brilliant, bright. > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > Ivan" > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related t= opics > > > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > Click here for Free Video!! > > > http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related top= ics > > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topic= s > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character. From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:19:24   At 12:41 PM 5/22/2000 PDT, you wrote: >Who hasn't heard a theater organ and said to >themselves, "Wow! Now that's what organs are supposed to sound = like!"<snip>   The problem comes with limitation of the "unit orchestra" when trying to perform anything other than popular music or light classics. Although I must admit the theater organ is indeed well suited for "solo and accompaniment" arrangements of various types, as well as a grand, brassy cadenza, its over-unification and non-blending, rather coarse, = non-blending voicing make it totally unsuitable for true organ literature of most schools. It is, as has been stated elsewhere, the first real "orchestral synthesizer", and in that job, it can do remarkably well in capable hands. Although Hope-Jones and the Wurlitzers were really after a "one-man band" capable or replacing an entire orchestra, it was, and is, a pipe organ, = and shares many of the tonal characteristics of its more staid cousins. It's an art in itself, registering one of these things to the listener's ultimate satisfaction!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Robert Hope-Jones... what a character. From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:30:24   At 03:12 PM 5/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Speaking of Mr. Biggs....did he REALLY play at Radio City? >I suspect he didn't....but Mr. Fox would!<snip>   Oh, indeed he did...much to his chagrin, I'm sure. That's where the = famous line, "After all, the Mighty Wurlitzer IS a REEEEEEEEAL pipe organ!" came from. Biggs, I'm sure, was waaaay out of his element with the RCMH Kimballitzer, as are half of the Wurlitzer players out there! However, as it offended his delicate sensibilities, I'm sure he couldn't wait to get out of there! After all, he had an image to protect! What would all = those tracker-backers DO if he released a recording of "Bach On The Mighty Wurlitzer"??? Fox would, and did, perform on just about everything, including at least two LPs done on a Hammond RT-2!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Catholic Organist--could be worse From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:33:11   At 05:45 PM 5/22/2000 -0400, you wrote: >The final insult was that this person was using all 4's, chords in the = left >hand, no pedal, and rode the swell pedal like a bucking bronco.<snip>   Hmmmm...that same person must get around and be ageless, for I found the same party bumbling around in no less than two RCs that I played at! At least your Kleenex box had a Hillgreen-Lane! Did it have the trademark horseshoe console?   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: theatre organ question From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:39:25 -0700       Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 12:41 PM 5/22/2000 PDT, you wrote: > >Who hasn't heard a theater organ and said to > >themselves, "Wow! Now that's what organs are supposed to sound = like!"<snip> > > The problem comes with limitation of the "unit orchestra" when trying to > perform anything other than popular music or light classics. Although I > must admit the theater organ is indeed well suited for "solo and > accompaniment" arrangements of various types, as well as a grand, brassy > cadenza, its over-unification and non-blending, rather coarse, = non-blending > voicing make it totally unsuitable for true organ literature of most > schools. >   Not being a theatre organ person, I'm curious ... has anyone ever built a more-or-less straight theatre organ? I think that big travelling Moller = wasn't nearly as unified as its Wurlitzer cousins, but I'm curious if anyone else = has ever experimented with making a straight one. I suppose it would cost = several fortunes, if you wanted to have EVERY tab connected to an independent = rank, but there ARE organs like that out there ... West Point, Wanamaker's, Atlantic = City, etc.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Catholic Organist????? From: "Stephen Ohmer" <knopfregal@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:59:58 -0700 (PDT)   This posting is not only ridiculous in several places, but very bigoted and has no place on this list.   Stephen Ohmer Bartlesville, OK     --- Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> wrote:   > Happens all the time...which is another part of > the reason RC churches on > the whole don't have any decent music. This > isn't anything new, > either...it's been going on since I can > remember. > > >I'm OUTRAGED!!!!!!! and find the whole thing > stupid at the same time! Why? > > Maybe it's because you wouldn't convert? Such > parochialism has returned > since John XXIII went away, and has intensified > during the > ultraconservative reign of "The Big Pole". > Look for possible changes after > he cashes in, which will depend on how well > Polski has the College's deck > stacked, which appears to be pretty well in his > favor right now. > > DeserTBoB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/