PipeChat Digest #1426 - Monday, May 29, 2000
 
Re: And the Organ played on and on and on (x post)
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
M.P. Moller Organ Rolls for sale on E-Bay
  by "willh" <willh@cfl.rr.com>
partners, partners
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Other Crumhorn notes
  by "Chris Baker" <chorale@clara.co.uk>
Re: Digital Voices
  by "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com>
Re: And the Organ played on and on and on (x post)
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Digital Voices (II)
  by "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com>
Re: Why we should have good real crumhorns on modern orchestral organs
  by "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com>
Fw: And the Organ played on and on and on (x post)
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: M.P. Moller Organ Rolls for sale on E-Bay
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: partners, partners
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: partners, partners
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: I need off-topic help (choral/organ works)
  by "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net>
wedding music for children's choir (slightly off-topic)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: And the Organ played on and on and on (x post)
  by "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
chill pills all round
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: chill pills all round
  by "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
PLEASE READ   Re: chill pills all round
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
REMINDER - IRC TONIGHT
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Other Crumhorn notes
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Digital Voices
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Paul Frolick Recital Tuesday (30), Rochester, NY
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Other Crumhorn notes
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Digital Voices (II)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: M.P. Moller Organ Rolls for sale on E-Bay
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Other Crumhorn notes
  by "Chris Baker" <chorale@clara.co.uk>
Re: Paul Frolick Recital Tuesday (30), Rochester, NY
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Other Crumhorn notes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: And the Organ played on and on and on (x post) From: <Posthorn8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:04:12 EDT   In a message dated 5/28/00 9:42:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << I felt like upchucking at my wedding. When I think about marriage, I = want to upchuck even more. >> I wish my marriage could be legal.....  
(back) Subject: M.P. Moller Organ Rolls for sale on E-Bay From: "willh" <willh@cfl.rr.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:55:44 -0400   I don't know if anyone would be interested in this but, someone has put five M.P. Moller organ rolls up for auction on E-Bay. They look to be in good shape and maybe never used. The Titles are:   MEDITATION FROM THAIS   LUIGI BOCCHERINI'S MINUET   FEUERZAUBER (FIRE MAGIC)   ANDANTINO IN Db   CANTILENE NUPITALE (BRIDAL SONG)   I don't know if these are Artiste player rolls or not. Look if you're interested. E-Bay has a lot of interesting pipe organ items on it. Especially in the record department.     Sincerely,   Will Scarboro            
(back) Subject: partners, partners From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 08:02:33 -0700   I wish I could find somebody to MARRY me (wry grin)!   Cheers,   Bud   Posthorn8@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 5/28/00 9:42:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > desertbob@rglobal.net writes: > > << I felt like upchucking at my wedding. When I think about marriage, I = want > to upchuck even more. > >> > I wish my marriage could be legal..... > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Other Crumhorn notes From: "Chris Baker" <chorale@clara.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:34:03 +0100     From: Bob Scarborough   > It's not the reeds that go out of tune. It's the flues. The flues do all > the changing, the reeds take all the beating.   Bob, you were riding this one a couple of months ago. I assume that you are following some esoteric purity of reasoning, rather than commenting on the realities of pipe tuning?   The reality with reed pipes is that they go out of tune more rapidly than flue pipes. This is hardly surprising, given the mechanical forces imparted by a reed tongue on the hook of the tuning wire. But more to the point, reed pipes lose tune *within* their rank - individual pipes falling flat against their neighbours, as well as against the general tune of the instrument.   What is the *practicality* of your premise, against the empirical wisdom that if you give the 8' Trumpet a bit of a flogging in the solo range, a couple of pipes are going to 'drop off ' a bit, and need tapping back in before next week. ?   Perhaps you are blessed with an instrument, containing reed stops whose pitch responds to environmental and mechanical influences in precise line with the flue stops, and which remain constantly in tune with the other pipes of their ranks. I have never experienced this in half a century at the organ, but I wish you the joy of it, whilst remaining deeply envious. :) Chris B          
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Voices From: "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:36:42 PDT     >Dave, you would use a TREMULANT???? Oh fie! fie!   Very sparingly. It drives me nuts when the theater organ overuse their trem. for every song.   DG     ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: And the Organ played on and on and on (x post) From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 12:38:00 EDT   In a message dated 5/29/00 9:06:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Posthorn8@aol.com writes:   << << I felt like upchucking at my wedding. When I think about marriage, = I want to upchuck even more. >> I wish my marriage could be legal..... >>   =3Do)  
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Voices (II) From: "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:42:15 PDT     >You're a little late. Effel Smiff was doing that back in the '40s. Care >to hear some?   Yes I would!!!!   That of course just proves the point... No one has since then, everyone = has forgotten about it, you never hear it on Pipedreams, let alone any other radio station, none of the current generation of swing or salsa players = are aware of it, I (being a reasonably informed organ buff) have never heard = of it, etc. And god forbid that we should ever play such "devil's music" on church instruments.   PS: I revised the design for my tracker any-stop-at-any-octave-from-any-manual action with completely mechanical combination capture action. I will present it in due time.   DG   ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Why we should have good real crumhorns on modern orchestral organs From: "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:46:15 PDT     I would appreciate it if you, in keeping with the spirit of pipechat, would not ridicule and laugh at ideas that you may not have considered before.   Maybe if organists would appear on Howard Stern we'd have someone in our audiences other than stuffy old church ladies.   DG   >At 02:40 PM 5/28/2000 PDT, you wrote: > >but the role I see for the Crumhorn on the organs I > >would design would be as a solo voice for use in jazz settings, = possibly >for > >duets or dialogues with a saxophone stop.<snipping more funny stuff> > >BONG! cuckoo BONG! cuckoo BONG! cuckoo > >Ever thought of guesting on the Howard Stern Show??   ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Fw: And the Organ played on and on and on (x post) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 14:23:07 -0500   Heck- Nobody will take me- legal or not!   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: <Posthorn8@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 8:04 AM Subject: Re: And the Organ played on and on and on (x post)     > In a message dated 5/28/00 9:42:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > desertbob@rglobal.net writes: > > << I felt like upchucking at my wedding. When I think about marriage, I want > to upchuck even more. > >> > I wish my marriage could be legal..... > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: M.P. Moller Organ Rolls for sale on E-Bay From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 15:52:19 EDT   In a message dated 5/29/00 9:55:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = willh@cfl.rr.com writes:   > I don't know if anyone would be interested in this but, > someone has put five M.P. Moller organ rolls up for auction on E-Bay. Hmmm.. and from the recent discussion regarding pronouncing and spelling =   Moller, it would then following that these are.....     (drum roll)     Danish (Moller) Rolls!!!   (running to my corner!!)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: partners, partners From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 15:54:32 EDT   In a message dated 5/29/00 11:03:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   > I wish I could find somebody to MARRY me (wry grin)! Get a dog!!!! Maybe two!!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: partners, partners From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:02:37 -0700   I don't think Baron the Very Dignified Collie would welcome a housemate at this point in his life ... he's close to 20 years old (human years) and still chases cats, UPS trucks, mailmen, etc. (up and down the fence). He has a touch of arthritis (after all, that's 140 in dog years!) and some minor heart problems, but he just keeps on truckin'. Been to the vet for something other than regular check-ups exactly ONCE in his life ... *I* should be so lucky (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 5/29/00 11:03:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: > > > I wish I could find somebody to MARRY me (wry grin)! > Get a dog!!!! Maybe two!! > > Bruce > . . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com > HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: I need off-topic help (choral/organ works) From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:07:34 +0100       > Rebekah Ingram wrote: > > ! > > I need something for my children's choir to sing for my wedding. I can > arrange it if need be. But I can't think of anything. Can anybody help > me out? I found a Boyce Alleluia in three parts this morning centered > around a ground bass in the pedal. It would be nice to have organ in > it, but it's not necessary. > > > -Rebekah   How about some John Rutter? "All things bright and beautiful", "For the beauty of the earth" or "Gaelic blessing" a.ka."Garlic dessing"are all very pleasant to the ear.   Cheers,   Colin    
(back) Subject: wedding music for children's choir (slightly off-topic) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:38:39 -0700   Look in the Concordia Book "Wedding Blessings" (?) ... I seem to recall a Buxtehude cantata movement that I used to do ... unison with some instruments that can be arranged to be played as a trio-sonata on the = organ, or something like that ... the book disappeared in one of my moves.   How about "God the Lord is Sun and Shield" from one of the Morning Star choirbooks? Or "Lord Jesus Christ, Thou Prince of Peace" from the same source?   Anything invoking the Holy Spirit is fair game for a wedding ... one of these days I'll get around to teaching my choir a setting of "Confirm, O God, What Thou Hast Wrought In Us".   Hmmm ... it seems the Lutherans have more good wedding music than we do (grin) ... we pretty much sing the Mass and "O Perfect Love" and maybe = "Ave Maria" and that's it, unless I can dragoon one of my soloists into (re) learning Gounod's "Song of Ruth" ... I never DID figure out what THAT had = to do with WEDDINGS, but it's *always* done, I'm told. *I* need to find some good wedding anthems BESIDES "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring".   And then there's always "Begone, Satan!" by Jan Bender (evil grin), or = "Turn Back, O Man, Forswear Thy Foolish Ways" (eviler grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Colin Hulme wrote:   > > Rebekah Ingram wrote: > > > > ! > > > > I need something for my children's choir to sing for my wedding. I can > > arrange it if need be. But I can't think of anything. Can anybody help > > me out? I found a Boyce Alleluia in three parts this morning centered > > around a ground bass in the pedal. It would be nice to have organ in > > it, but it's not necessary. > > > > > > -Rebekah > > How about some John Rutter? "All things bright and beautiful", > "For the beauty of the earth" or "Gaelic blessing" a.ka."Garlic > dessing"are all very pleasant > to the ear. > > Cheers, > > Colin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: And the Organ played on and on and on (x post) From: "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 15:38:32 CDT   ><< I felt like upchucking at my wedding. When I think about marriage, I >want > to upchuck even more. > >> >I wish my marriage could be legal.....   What does this have to do with pipe organs? Of all the non-topical bs on this list... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: chill pills all round From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:44:25 -0700   While this MAY have drifted off-topic, organists DO live in the real = world. I can't be married in church, either ... there's a (most unfair and unchristian) "canonical" impediment.   Cheers,   Bud       > ><< I felt like upchucking at my wedding. When I think about marriage, = I > >want > > to upchuck even more. > > >> > >I wish my marriage could be legal.....   Ray Ahrens wrote:   > > > What does this have to do with pipe organs? Of all the non-topical bs = on > this list... > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: chill pills all round From: "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 15:54:30 CDT   >While this MAY have drifted off-topic, organists DO live in the real = world.   And this list deals with the pipe organ part of the real world, not your partner (or lack thereof), nor your marital status. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: PLEASE READ Re: chill pills all round From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:05:47 -0500   Ok Folks   This has drifted somewhat off topic, Let's drop this thread right now.   And let's get back to PIPE Chatting <G>   David **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org 850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: REMINDER - IRC TONIGHT From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:08:46 -0500   Even though it is a holiday, the normally scheduled Monday night PipeChat IRC session will be happening this evening beginning at 9 PM Eastern Time.   For those of you that need to find out how to connect please go to the IRC page on the PipeChat Web Site. It gives all the information needed to join us. http://www.pipechat.org/irc.html   I hope to see some of you there tonight.   David **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org 850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Other Crumhorn notes From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:27:25 EDT   In a message dated 00-05-29 12:33:57 EDT, you write:   << The reality with reed pipes is that they go out of tune more rapidly than flue pipes. This is hardly surprising, given the mechanical forces imparted by a reed tongue on the hook of the tuning wire. But more to the point, reed pipes lose tune *within* their rank - individual pipes falling flat against their neighbours, as well as against the general tune of the instrument. >> Sorry, but my 20 plus years working as aa tuner simply does NOT bear out = the statement made above. When a reed stop is in proper regulation and has = not otherwise been abused the tuning is MORE stable in full-length reed stops like trumpets and the pitch variation is less affected by temperature >because< of the mechanical generation of pitch by the vibrating brass tongue. A reed that is improperly regulated or has loose wedges, bent = tuning wires, loose scrolls or other physivcal defects may not be stable. if = tuning has changed *within * their ranks over a breif period of time it is = entirely possible that the rank was not tuned in a way that gives stable results.   Rick Maryman Staunton VA  
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Voices From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:27:22 EDT   In a message dated 00-05-27 15:09:17 EDT, you write:   << Well, a "true" organ doesn't have percussion. I tolerate them in theater organs because they do give some interesting sounds. >> I BEG to differ... One of the Bach organs had a glockenspeil which is >definately< a percussion stop. It is a small set of bells, mounted on a central shaft, with strikers to 'ring' the bells. A picture can be seen = of one of these in the Laukhuff catalog.   Rick Maryman Staunton VA  
(back) Subject: Paul Frolick Recital Tuesday (30), Rochester, NY From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 19:10:54 EDT   Dear Lists,   Paul Frolick will play the following not-all-the-usual-Bach program at = Christ Episcopal Church, 36 S. Main (at Locust), Pittsford (Rochester), New York tomorrow evening (Tuesday) at 8 p.m.   ALL BACH:   Prelude & Fugue in C, BWV 531 This is not the 9/8, nor is it the other C Major also in Peters Vol. 2. It's in Vol. 4, and is a work I have never heard, beginning with a rather bugle-call-like Pedal solo. I take pleasure in quoting Spitta: "With a = good performance and a correspondingly strong organ, the effect of this composition is an extraordinary one; something like a spring storm on a = March night rages through it, and one feels that such power will achieve = wonders." Dear me!   Trio Sonata No. V, BWV 529 (We're still in C Major) Quoting from Hermann Keller: "In form, the largest, in technique, the = most difficult, and in its style the one best suited to the Organ of all the sonatas."   Allein Gott in der Hoh sei Ehr, BWV 663 I can't resist another Spitta quote about this work, with its = wonderfully florid cantus in the Tenor - are you ready for this?: " . . . a tropical luxuriance of foliage with many-colored blossoms."   Komm, Gott Schopfer, heiliger Geist, BWV 667   Fugue in b, BWV 579 Based on a fugue of Corelli   (Intermission)   Prelude & Fugue in A, BWV 536   Concerto in a (after Vivaldi), BWV 593   Herr Jesu, dich zu uns wend', BWV 726 Herzlich tut mich verlangen, BWV 727 Lobt Gott, ihr Christen, BWV 732   Fugue in c, BWV 574 This is on a theme of Legrenzi, and I don't want to quote what Keller = says about it!!   As for the organ: Gee, Dad, it's a Mander!! (1991). You can find a picture =   and stoplist on the company website.   Any listmembers present, please say hello. I'll be setting up the = microphone.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Other Crumhorn notes From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:07:55   At 05:34 PM 5/29/2000 +0100, you wrote: >The reality with reed pipes is that they go out of tune more rapidly >than flue pipes. This is hardly surprising, given the mechanical >forces imparted by a reed tongue on the hook of the tuning wire. But >more to the point, reed pipes lose tune *within* their rank - >individual pipes falling flat against their neighbours, as well as >against the general tune of the instrument.<snip>   You need to do some studying. Any experienced tuner will tell you it's = the flues that change seasonally...NOT the reeds. All tuners "fudge" the = reeds to match the changing flues, thus giving the reeds a bum rap.   Sorry...you lose...again.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Voices (II) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:10:01   At 09:42 AM 5/29/2000 PDT, you wrote: >PS: I revised the design for my tracker >any-stop-at-any-octave-from-any-manual action with completely >mechanical combination capture action. I will present it >in due time.<snip>   The Unabomber was right...these techno-geeks are COMPLETELY out of = control!!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: M.P. Moller Organ Rolls for sale on E-Bay From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:12:26   At 03:52 PM 5/29/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Danish (Moller) Rolls!!!<snip>   OK, dat's it...40 whacks with a Bawld-One schpinette broomstick fer you, young man!!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Other Crumhorn notes From: "Chris Baker" <chorale@clara.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 00:51:37 +0100   From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Subject: Re: Other Crumhorn notes     > Sorry, but my 20 plus years working as aa tuner simply does NOT bear out the > statement made above. When a reed stop is in proper regulation and has not > otherwise been abused the tuning is MORE stable in full-length reed stops > like trumpets and the pitch variation is less affected by temperature > >because< of the mechanical generation of pitch by the vibrating brass > tongue. A reed that is improperly regulated or has loose wedges, bent tuning > wires, loose scrolls or other physivcal defects may not be stable. if tuning > has changed *within * their ranks over a breif period of time it is entirely > possible that the rank was not tuned in a way that gives stable results.   I don't know how to answer you. I have four organs to my use - three of them are over ninety years old, and the fourth is a hundred and thirty years old. I have known these instruments for longer than you say you have been a tuner. Between them there are seventeen reed ranks. All the instruments have the bearings laid on their Principals annually, they are through-tuned four times a year. The general situation with most of the reed registers is as I said it is - that over any period, the reeds require more attention than the flues.   The real reason for my posting ,was that I could not reconcile Bob's assertion that "the reeds do not go out of tune, it is the flues". The logic of this is, that when I become aware in the future that a few of the Horns (for example,) are going off a bit, instead of bringing them back into tune, I should instead tune the rest of the organ into the Horn rank as it is. Either that, or accept that I am utterly mistaken, that the stop is too stable to go off, and the few pipes of the Horn which I can hear as being out of tune, are in fact nothing of the sort.   You have offered the proviso that there may be reed stops which have been abused or damaged, and have therefore become less stable. Almost by definition, tuning, re-regulating, re-voicing, etc., etc., are damaging procedures. We begin to 'damage' pipes at the moment the pipemaker hands them over to the voicer. We damage them again when they are placed on their soundchests for the first time and regulated. Perhaps, here in England, where the vast majority of church pipe organs are between seventy and a hundred years old, the pipe which you would call abused or damaged, is simply old, and has a century of tunings, and regulation behind it.   In the end, what can I say - 'my' reeds and those of other churches I am familiar with, require more frequent attention than the rest of the organ. This is not a point, or a score, or an 'I told you so', it is simply a fact relative to *my* length of experience, on the organs I that *I* know. Thinking about it carefully, I don't think I have *ever* played an organ that was less than eighty years old, and maybe that it is the difference between our respective experiences?   Regards, Chris Baker    
(back) Subject: Re: Paul Frolick Recital Tuesday (30), Rochester, NY From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 20:12:38 EDT   In a message dated 5/29/00 7:12:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ManderUSA@aol.com writes:   > I can't resist another Spitta quote about this work, with its = wonderfully > florid cantus in the Tenor - are you ready for this?: " . . . a = tropical > luxuriance of foliage with many-colored blossoms." Sounds like a wonderful program. I certainly hope he's read Stevens = Irwin's book so he can choose stops accordingly!! ;-)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Other Crumhorn notes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 20:14:35 EDT   In a message dated 5/29/00 7:21:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   > Any experienced tuner will tell you it's the > flues that change seasonally...NOT the reeds. EEEEK! He IS an experience tuner. Lordy, the poopoo's gonna roll!!!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502