PipeChat Digest #1987 - Sunday, April 1, 2001
 
Organistic/Traditional Liturgical Music
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(back) Subject: Organistic/Traditional Liturgical Music From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 10:01:49 EDT     --part1_4f.9a1ac9e.27f88ecd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   A colleague of mine tried raking me and the program here at the = National=3D20 Shrine across the coals this morning because of a comment I made regarding = a=3D =3D20 hymn selection. (Details later in this posting). As I wrote back to him = my=3D =3D20 thoughts flowed rather openly and I wish to share my opinions, once = again,=3D20 with my colleagues here. I realize that some will take offense, I = realize=3D20 that others will support my thinking, I realize that yet others will = be=3D20 indifferent. (The names have been changed to "Mr. X" protect the = innocent.)=3D =3D20 =3D3Do)   =3D20 Dear Mr. X,   I am sorry I could not respond to your last instant message as I had = to=3D20 return to the upstairs and finish the 7:30 mass.   Regarding the "Mass of Creation", yes it is overdone. =3DA0It is also = sing-son=3D gy=3D20 and trite, obtrusive and calling more attention to itself than the = Liturgy=3D20 occurring at the altar. =3DA0I did retire it here, in fact on my second = Sunday=3D ,=3D20 and I will not do it anymore. =3DA0That is not "Shrine" talking, it is = me=3D20 personally and I have too many colleagues throughout the country that = agree=3D20 with me. =3DA0There is too much other good repertoire and too many good = mass=3D20 settings that can be done.   Regarding "Precious Lord, Take My Hand" and "On Eagles' Wings" I am = sorry=3D20 that you feel you have to inflict that upon your congregation. =3DA0What = do th=3D ose=3D20 songs have to do with Lent V-C? =3DA0I honestly thought you had higher = musical=3D =3D20 standards than that. =3DA0I will entertain some such requests in the case = of a=3D =3D20 funeral, but even then with great discretion and I have the final = authority=3D20 because I am responsible for the musical life of this parish.   Some musicians would argue that "the people know those songs and will = sing=3D20 them robustly" and "those type of songs truly minister to the hearts of = the=3D20 worshippers." =3DA0OK- I can see that angle. =3DA0But I also see beyond it = and t=3D hink=3D20 that if a steady diet of solid and good traditional hymns are taught = (or=3D20 retaught) and not varied from that a congregation will sing the music = of=3D20 their faith heritage, truly ROMAN CATHOLIC music, and congregations will = the=3D n=3D20 be participating in true hymn singing and not just humming along with = catchy=3D ,=3D20 sing-songy, modern, trite, nauseating, non-organistic drivel regurgitated = by=3D =3D20 some of these so called "composers" such as Marty Haugen who are NOT even = a=3D20 Catholic.   There is also a notion these days that "On Eagle's Wings" and "Be Not = Afraid=3D "=3D20 are "traditional Catholic songs" (not hymns). =3DA0That is just plain SAD, = and=3D I=3D20 refuse to buy into that or allow that to happen here or wherever I am = the=3D20 director of Music. =3DA0I meant what I said earlier and repeat: =3DA0it is = the c=3D hurch=3D20 musicians who use that kind of music (Haugen, Haas, etc) that make it = very=3D20 difficult for those of us who are doing traditionally based = repertoire=3D20 because when people hear it in other places they come here and say "why = can'=3D t=3D20 we sing the old songs?" or "will we ever sing the pretty melodies = again?"=3D20 =3DA0OK, pretty is one thing and old is another. =3DA0I don't do pretty = and I do=3D n't=3D20 do sing-songy. =3DA0But what about when music is of a solid and good=3D20 compositional value and musicality AND lends solidly to the worship? = =3DA0THAT=3D is=3D20 the music I try to do and do with a vengeance.   Lastly, you reference "just because it is not done at the SHRINE...." = clearl=3D y=3D20 displays an opinion that we do indeed have a program here that is known = as=3D20 being very fine and of a high calibre. =3DA0I thank you for reinforcing = that=3D20 through your words. =3DA0I would have it no other way than what we are = doing=3D20 here. =3DA0The choirs and cantors like it, my assistant and I thrive on it = and=3D =3D20 the clergy would not have it any other way. =3DA0I am sorry if our = standards=3D20 threaten others or seem elitist. =3DA0That is fine with me, I don't care. =3DA0T=3D o be=3D20 honest, it really does bother me to know what some of our neighboring=3D20 parishes are doing musically. =3DA0Perhaps that's why we have had such a = large=3D =3D20 influx or new choir members and congregation members from other = nearby=3D20 parishes in recent months.   Let's take a look at the psalmody you and I have discussed. =3DA0We use = Anglic=3D an=3D20 Chant, Gregorian Chant/Plainsong, both accompanied and unaccompanied. = =3DA0And=3D =3D20 now you have "By Flowing Waters." =3DA0I strongly suggest that you also = invest=3D in=3D20 both the Anglican Chant Psalter and The Plainsong Psalter. =3DA0(They = are=3D20 available from The Church Pension Fund in NYC at 800-223-6602 or their = music=3D =3D20 publishing company's direct number is 800-242-1918.) =3DA0=3DA0Where "By = Flowing=3D =3D20 Waters" may not have a specific psalm for a specific day, the = "Plainsong=3D20 Psalter" has ALL of them. =3DA0One must simply point the refrain of the = day fr=3D om=3D20 the RC lectionary. =3DA0The congregations at the various masses have = picked al=3D l=3D20 of them up very well. =3DA0Regarding some of the psalms we sing here, one = pers=3D on=3D20 said "why are we singing Episcopalian music?" My response was: =3DA0"we = are no=3D t=3D20 singing 'Episcopalian' music, we are singing music published in an = Anglican=3D20 publishing house that is liturgically grounded, beautifully composed and = of=3D20 an excellent calibre for worship." =3DA0   These type of psalms were written for choirs singing both unison and = harmony=3D =3D20 and with organ accompaniment and intended to be used in divine liturgy, = not=3D20 around some camp fire or with a guitar and piano strumming along. = =3DA0OK-=3D20 Gelineau will work on occasion, Michel Guimont, the "Celebration Series" = and=3D =3D20 the "Gather" psalms will NOT work, at least with me. =3DA0Again, trite, = sing=3D20 songy drivel. =3DA0However, Respond and Acclaim is an excellent way to = move yo=3D ur=3D20 choir TOWARDS higher-level chant psalmody and I have used it for many = years=3D20 with great success. =3DA0In churches where the choirs and cantors cannot = handl=3D e=3D20 the other, then perhaps the Guimont or Respond and Acclaim could be=3D20 considered. I used Respond and Acclaim with my choir in Pittsburgh who = had=3D20 not even SUNG psalms in this manner previously because cantors had done = it=3D20 all. =3DA0They can now do 4-part unaccompanied chant. =3DA0But then again = let's=3D20 question just how much organists and choirmasters are willing to WORK, = truly=3D =3D20 WORK and TRAIN their singers. =3DA0Sadly, too many just breeze in on = weekends=3D20=3D and=3D20 to a weekly choir rehearsal and slop through the same drivel week after = week=3D ..=3D20 =3DA0   The Roman Church as well as most other denominations in recent years = has=3D20 crossed over the musical boundaries and borrowed and shared repertoire = and=3D20 service music. =3DA0Look at David Hurd's "New Plainsong Mass." =3DA0It is = an=3D20 EXCELLENT setting for any Roman or Anglican congregation. =3DA0It is = beautiful=3D ,=3D20 easy to sing, traditionally composed and has a simple yet solid organ=3D20 accompaniment. =3DA0Likewise, the "St. Andrew's Mass" of Canon John = McCreary i=3D s=3D20 also used here. =3DA0It was composed for St. Andrew's Episcopal Cathedral = in=3D20 Honolulu and is contemporarily composed though rather traditional in = sound.=3D20 =3DA0It is very broad and more difficult that the "New Plainsong" and has = a=3D20 fantastic and very elegant organ accompaniment. =3DA0Very high church! = =3DA0We u=3D se=3D20 both here to great degree. =3DA0In fact, our liturgical year goes as = follows w=3D ith=3D20 regard to sung mass settings: Ordinary Time: =3DA0"St. Andrew's Mass" (McCreary) Advent, Lent and all Saturday morning Lady masses: "New Plainsong" (Hurd) Christmastide and Eastertide: =3DA0"Community Mass" (Proulx) Note: =3DA0when we use the "Community Mass" we use the Gloria from "New = Mass f=3D or=3D20 Congregations" by Carroll T. Andrews because of its singability and=3D20 familiarity. =3DA0This coming fall we will begin learning the "Mass in E" = by=3D20 Jeffery Smith. =3DA0Again, VERY elegant and singable and quite = beautiful=3D20 throughout. =3DA0It too should lend very well to liturgies here and in other=3D20 parishes. =3DA0I am very proud that our choirs, cantors, clergy and = congregati=3D on=3D20 can sing all of these settings well and solidly.   No Mass of Creation here, folks. =3DA0We will, however, use it on occasion = for=3D a=3D20 special school liturgy when a sung eucharistic prayer for children is=3D20 desired, but even our clergy have moved away from it having seen what = happen=3D s=3D20 to the liturgy when it is used.   There are too many schlocky musicians in this Archdiocese (and I will = not=3D20 mention names) and other dioceses who would also kill for this job = here,=3D20 think they could handle it and then would fall flat on their respective = face=3D s=3D20 within the first two weeks of being inside the door. =3DA0(They would = probably=3D =3D20 use the piano and MIDI in liturgies as well. =3DA0I shudder to = think......)=3D20=3D =3DA0And=3D20 I know that many of them don't like me, again- I don't care. =3DA0In fact, = I=3D20 enjoy the fact that what we are doing here makes alot of musicians in = this=3D20 area squirm. =3DA0I am delighted when visiting clergy ask questions about = what=3D we=3D20 do here and ask for our ideas and input on music, mass settings,=3D20 implementation of a music program etc. =3DA0it makes me think that SOME = clergy=3D =3D20 actually DO want a return to good music and programming instead of the = easy,=3D =3D20 lax planning that many parishes are saddled with the past three = decades.=3D20 =3DA0Again, I will not mention names, I do not need to.   I find it interesting (for lack of a better word) that Mr. X at St. X's = is=3D20 begging for our "Gather Comprehensive" hymnals when we get the new one. = =3DA0I=3D =3D20 cannot believe he even wants this garbage, but if he does he is welcome = to=3D20 them. =3DA0We will either get "Worship" with an insert in the back cover = to=3D20 include the hymns that are very obviously missing and would give so much = mor=3D e=3D20 beauty and variety to the singing at mass, or we will do our own from=3D20 scratch. =3DA0I am personally for the latter choice.   You are one of the finest organists and overall musicians in church music = in=3D =3D20 this area. =3DA0Please remember that and also please remember how much = good yo=3D u=3D20 can do in teaching music your choirs and congregation alike. =3DA0I should = not=3D be=3D20 faulted nor looked down upon for doing a highly structured program = and=3D20 excellent calibre of music here. =3DA0I hope you will consider what I have = sai=3D d=3D20 here in the light it is intended. =3DA0You are a good friend and a = superb=3D20 musician. =3DA0   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music and Liturgy The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son, Opus 5180, 1933) "Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens: fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar."     --part1_4f.9a1ac9e.27f88ecd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>A colleague of mine = tried=3D raking me and the program here at the National=3D20 <BR>Shrine across the coals this morning because of a comment I made = regardi=3D ng a=3D20 <BR>hymn selection. &nbsp;(Details later in this posting). &nbsp;As I = wrote=3D20=3D back to him my=3D20 <BR>thoughts flowed rather openly and I wish to share my opinions, once = agai=3D n,=3D20 <BR>with my colleagues here. &nbsp;I realize that some will take offense, = I=3D20=3D realize=3D20 <BR>that others will support my thinking, I realize that yet others will = be=3D20 <BR>indifferent. &nbsp;(The names have been changed to "Mr. X" protect the = i=3D nnocent.) &nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D3Do) <BR> <BR> &nbsp; <BR>Dear Mr. X, <BR> <BR>I am sorry I could not respond to your last instant message as I had = to=3D20 <BR>return to the upstairs and finish the 7:30 mass. <BR> <BR>Regarding the "Mass of Creation", yes it is overdone. =3DA0It is also = sing=3D -songy=3D20 <BR>and trite, obtrusive and calling more attention to itself than the = Litur=3D gy=3D20 <BR>occurring at the altar. =3DA0I did retire it here, in fact on my = second Su=3D nday,=3D20 <BR>and I will not do it anymore. =3DA0That is not "Shrine" talking, it is = me=3D20 <BR>personally and I have too many colleagues throughout the country that = ag=3D ree=3D20 <BR>with me. =3DA0There is too much other good repertoire and too many = good ma=3D ss=3D20 <BR>settings that can be done. <BR> <BR>Regarding "Precious Lord, Take My Hand" and "On Eagles' Wings" I am = sorr=3D y=3D20 <BR>that you feel you have to inflict that upon your congregation. = =3DA0What d=3D o those=3D20 <BR>songs have to do with Lent V-C? =3DA0I honestly thought you had higher = mus=3D ical=3D20 <BR>standards than that. =3DA0I will entertain some such requests in the = case=3D20=3D of a=3D20 <BR>funeral, but even then with great discretion and I have the final = author=3D ity=3D20 <BR>because I am responsible for the musical life of this parish. <BR> <BR>Some musicians would argue that "the people know those songs and will = si=3D ng=3D20 <BR>them robustly" and "those type of songs truly minister to the hearts = of=3D20=3D the=3D20 <BR>worshippers." =3DA0OK- I can see that angle. =3DA0But I also see = beyond it a=3D nd think=3D20 <BR>that if a steady diet of solid and good traditional hymns are taught = (or=3D =3D20 <BR>retaught) and not varied from that a congregation will sing the music = of=3D =3D20 <BR>their faith heritage, truly ROMAN CATHOLIC music, and congregations = will=3D then=3D20 <BR>be participating in true hymn singing and not just humming along with = ca=3D tchy,=3D20 <BR>sing-songy, modern, trite, nauseating, non-organistic drivel = regurgitate=3D d by=3D20 <BR>some of these so called "composers" such as Marty Haugen who are NOT = eve=3D n a=3D20 <BR>Catholic. <BR> <BR>There is also a notion these days that "On Eagle's Wings" and "Be Not = Af=3D raid"=3D20 <BR>are "traditional Catholic songs" (not hymns). =3DA0That is just plain = SAD,=3D and I=3D20 <BR>refuse to buy into that or allow that to happen here or wherever I am = th=3D e=3D20 <BR>director of Music. =3DA0I meant what I said earlier and repeat: = =3DA0it is t=3D he church=3D20 <BR>musicians who use that kind of music (Haugen, Haas, etc) that make it = ve=3D ry=3D20 <BR>difficult for those of us who are doing traditionally based = repertoire=3D20 <BR>because when people hear it in other places they come here and say = "why=3D20=3D can't=3D20 <BR>we sing the old songs?" or "will we ever sing the pretty melodies = again?=3D "=3D20 <BR>=3DA0OK, pretty is one thing and old is another. =3DA0I don't do = pretty and=3D20=3D I don't=3D20 <BR>do sing-songy. =3DA0But what about when music is of a solid and = good=3D20 <BR>compositional value and musicality AND lends solidly to the = worship?=3D20=3D =3DA0THAT is=3D20 <BR>the music I try to do and do with a vengeance. <BR> <BR>Lastly, you reference "just because it is not done at the SHRINE...." = cl=3D early=3D20 <BR>displays an opinion that we do indeed have a program here that is = known=3D20=3D as=3D20 <BR>being very fine and of a high calibre. =3DA0I thank you for = reinforcing th=3D at=3D20 <BR>through your words. =3DA0I would have it no other way than what we are = doi=3D ng=3D20 <BR>here. =3DA0The choirs and cantors like it, my assistant and I thrive = on it=3D and=3D20 <BR>the clergy would not have it any other way. =3DA0I am sorry if our = standar=3D ds=3D20 <BR>threaten others or seem elitist. =3DA0That is fine with me, I don't = care.=3D20=3D =3DA0To be=3D20 <BR>honest, it really does bother me to know what some of our = neighboring=3D20 <BR>parishes are doing musically. =3DA0Perhaps that's why we have had such = a l=3D arge=3D20 <BR>influx or new choir members and congregation members from other = nearby=3D20 <BR>parishes in recent months. <BR> <BR>Let's take a look at the psalmody you and I have discussed. =3DA0We = use An=3D glican=3D20 <BR>Chant, Gregorian Chant/Plainsong, both accompanied and = unaccompanied.=3D20=3D =3DA0And=3D20 <BR>now you have "By Flowing Waters." =3DA0I strongly suggest that you = also in=3D vest in=3D20 <BR>both the Anglican Chant Psalter and The Plainsong Psalter. =3DA0(They = are=3D20 <BR>available from The Church Pension Fund in NYC at 800-223-6602 or their = m=3D usic=3D20 <BR>publishing company's direct number is 800-242-1918.) =3DA0=3DA0Where = "By Flo=3D wing=3D20 <BR>Waters" may not have a specific psalm for a specific day, the "Plainsong=3D =3D20 <BR>Psalter" has ALL of them. =3DA0One must simply point the refrain of = the da=3D y from=3D20 <BR>the RC lectionary. =3DA0The congregations at the various masses have = picke=3D d all=3D20 <BR>of them up very well. =3DA0Regarding some of the psalms we sing here, = one=3D20=3D person=3D20 <BR>said "why are we singing Episcopalian music?" My response was: = =3DA0"we ar=3D e not=3D20 <BR>singing 'Episcopalian' music, we are singing music published in an = Angli=3D can=3D20 <BR>publishing house that is liturgically grounded, beautifully composed = and=3D of=3D20 <BR>an excellent calibre for worship." =3DA0 <BR> <BR>These type of psalms were written for choirs singing both unison and = har=3D mony=3D20 <BR>and with organ accompaniment and intended to be used in divine = liturgy,=3D20=3D not=3D20 <BR>around some camp fire or with a guitar and piano strumming along. = =3DA0OK-=3D =3D20 <BR>Gelineau will work on occasion, Michel Guimont, the "Celebration = Series"=3D and=3D20 <BR>the "Gather" psalms will NOT work, at least with me. =3DA0Again, = trite, si=3D ng=3D20 <BR>songy drivel. =3DA0However, Respond and Acclaim is an excellent way to = mov=3D e your=3D20 <BR>choir TOWARDS higher-level chant psalmody and I have used it for many = ye=3D ars=3D20 <BR>with great success. =3DA0In churches where the choirs and cantors = cannot h=3D andle=3D20 <BR>the other, then perhaps the Guimont or Respond and Acclaim could = be=3D20 <BR>considered. I used Respond and Acclaim with my choir in Pittsburgh who = h=3D ad=3D20 <BR>not even SUNG psalms in this manner previously because cantors had = done=3D20=3D it=3D20 <BR>all. =3DA0They can now do 4-part unaccompanied chant. =3DA0But then = again le=3D t's=3D20 <BR>question just how much organists and choirmasters are willing to WORK, = t=3D ruly=3D20 <BR>WORK and TRAIN their singers. =3DA0Sadly, too many just breeze in on = weeke=3D nds and=3D20 <BR>to a weekly choir rehearsal and slop through the same drivel week = after=3D20=3D week.=3D20 <BR>=3DA0 <BR> <BR>The Roman Church as well as most other denominations in recent years = has=3D =3D20 <BR>crossed over the musical boundaries and borrowed and shared repertoire = a=3D nd=3D20 <BR>service music. =3DA0Look at David Hurd's "New Plainsong Mass." =3DA0It = is an=3D =3D20 <BR>EXCELLENT setting for any Roman or Anglican congregation. =3DA0It is = beaut=3D iful,=3D20 <BR>easy to sing, traditionally composed and has a simple yet solid = organ=3D20 <BR>accompaniment. =3DA0Likewise, the "St. Andrew's Mass" of Canon John = McCrea=3D ry is=3D20 <BR>also used here. =3DA0It was composed for St. Andrew's Episcopal = Cathedral=3D20=3D in=3D20 <BR>Honolulu and is contemporarily composed though rather traditional in = sou=3D nd.=3D20 <BR>=3DA0It is very broad and more difficult that the "New Plainsong" and = has=3D20=3D a=3D20 <BR>fantastic and very elegant organ accompaniment. =3DA0Very high = church!=3D20=3D =3DA0We use=3D20 <BR>both here to great degree. =3DA0In fact, our liturgical year goes as = follo=3D ws with=3D20 <BR>regard to sung mass settings: <BR>Ordinary Time: =3DA0"St. Andrew's Mass" (McCreary) <BR>Advent, Lent and all Saturday morning Lady masses: "New Plainsong" = (Hurd=3D ) <BR>Christmastide and Eastertide: =3DA0"Community Mass" (Proulx) <BR>Note: =3DA0when we use the "Community Mass" we use the Gloria from = "New Ma=3D ss for=3D20 <BR>Congregations" by Carroll T. Andrews because of its singability = and=3D20 <BR>familiarity. =3DA0This coming fall we will begin learning the "Mass in = E"=3D20=3D by=3D20 <BR>Jeffery Smith. =3DA0Again, VERY elegant and singable and quite = beautiful=3D20 <BR>throughout. =3DA0It too should lend very well to liturgies here and in = oth=3D er=3D20 <BR>parishes. =3DA0I am very proud that our choirs, cantors, clergy and = congre=3D gation=3D20 <BR>can sing all of these settings well and solidly. <BR> <BR>No Mass of Creation here, folks. =3DA0We will, however, use it on = occasion=3D for a=3D20 <BR>special school liturgy when a sung eucharistic prayer for children = is=3D20 <BR>desired, but even our clergy have moved away from it having seen what = ha=3D ppens=3D20 <BR>to the liturgy when it is used. <BR> <BR>There are too many schlocky musicians in this Archdiocese (and I will = no=3D t=3D20 <BR>mention names) and other dioceses who would also kill for this job here,=3D =3D20 <BR>think they could handle it and then would fall flat on their = respective=3D20=3D faces=3D20 <BR>within the first two weeks of being inside the door. =3DA0(They would = prob=3D ably=3D20 <BR>use the piano and MIDI in liturgies as well. =3DA0I shudder to = think......=3D ) =3DA0And=3D20 <BR>I know that many of them don't like me, again- I don't care. =3DA0In = fact,=3D I=3D20 <BR>enjoy the fact that what we are doing here makes alot of musicians in = th=3D is=3D20 <BR>area squirm. =3DA0I am delighted when visiting clergy ask questions = about=3D20=3D what we=3D20 <BR>do here and ask for our ideas and input on music, mass settings,=3D20 <BR>implementation of a music program etc. =3DA0it makes me think that = SOME cl=3D ergy=3D20 <BR>actually DO want a return to good music and programming instead of the = e=3D asy,=3D20 <BR>lax planning that many parishes are saddled with the past three = decades.=3D =3D20 <BR>=3DA0Again, I will not mention names, I do not need to. <BR> <BR>I find it interesting (for lack of a better word) that Mr. X at St. = X's=3D20=3D is=3D20 <BR>begging for our "Gather Comprehensive" hymnals when we get the new = one.=3D20=3D =3DA0I=3D20 <BR>cannot believe he even wants this garbage, but if he does he is = welcome=3D20=3D to=3D20 <BR>them. =3DA0We will either get "Worship" with an insert in the back = cover t=3D o=3D20 <BR>include the hymns that are very obviously missing and would give so = much=3D more=3D20 <BR>beauty and variety to the singing at mass, or we will do our own = from=3D20 <BR>scratch. =3DA0I am personally for the latter choice. <BR> <BR>You are one of the finest organists and overall musicians in church = musi=3D c in=3D20 <BR>this area. =3DA0Please remember that and also please remember how much = goo=3D d you=3D20 <BR>can do in teaching music your choirs and congregation alike. =3DA0I = should=3D not be=3D20 <BR>faulted nor looked down upon for doing a highly structured program = and=3D20 <BR>excellent calibre of music here. =3DA0I hope you will consider what I = have=3D said=3D20 <BR>here in the light it is intended. =3DA0You are a good friend and a = superb=3D20 <BR>musician. =3DA0 <BR> <BR><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music and = L=3D iturgy <BR>The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR><I>"Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens: <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar."</I> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_4f.9a1ac9e.27f88ecd_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:20:59 -0400   Hi folks,   i have been following this thread with great interest, so much so that I have printed out all the various messages. This has confused me even more =   than I was before!   This is what I have got:   A good turntable with a new cartridge A SoundBlaster Live sound card 36 Gbytes of space on my hard drive 256 Mbytes of RAM A Creative DVD drive that reads CDs An HP CD Writer 9300 series   Now, what I want to know is this, in order to copy some of my better LPs = to CD, what else do I need to buy? I sense that the Radio Shack pre-amp = might do, but I have a very old 120v Radio Shack pre-amp, that has a terrible = hum on it, so I am a bit wary of buying another.   Also, having got the signal from the LP player to the computer, presumably =   by the LINE Input, what do I do to send that signal to my CD Writer, which =   has the My CD software that came with it.   So far I have successfully copied CDs, but have not even tried to copy LPs. In order to keep this on topic, the LPs that I want to copy are European LPs on various small European labels that are no longer in = business.   If this is too far off topic, please send any advice to my e-mail address, =   - although I think that there may be a lot of interest in this generally.   Many thanks for a step by step procedure!   Bob ...    
(back) Subject: Re: Its April Fools Day...... From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:40:42 -0400     --------------C15174D0DD959AAA1C6882AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Not :-) Mike   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 4/1/01 5:02:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Doppelflote8@aol.com writes: > > > >> What...no April Fools Day music postings???? >> Wheres our sense of humor? A little PDQ Bach would be so >> appropriate for >> today, and I bet our congregations would love it! >> > > Today I'm a reader at the Confirmation service. I considered walking > to the > lectern and saying: > > A reading from the Prophet Jeremiah. > > Thus saith the Lord, > YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!! BBWWWWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA > > (um.... April Fool!!!) > > > ya think???? > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --------------C15174D0DD959AAA1C6882AE Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Not&nbsp; :-) <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>In a message = dated 4/1/01 5:02:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>Doppelflote8@aol.com = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"Arial Black"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>What...no April Fools Day music postings????</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial Black"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>Wheres our sense of humor?&nbsp; A little PDQ Bach would be so appropriate = for</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial Black"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>today, and I bet our congregations would love it!</font></font></font> <br>&nbsp;</blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Today I'm = a reader at the Confirmation service.&nbsp;&nbsp; I considered walking to = the</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>lectern = and saying:</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>A reading = from the Prophet Jeremiah.</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Thus saith = the Lord,</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>YOU'RE = ALL GOING TO HELL!!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = BBWWWWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>(um.... = April Fool!!!)</font></font></font> <br>&nbsp; <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>ya = think????</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Bruce = Cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Visit = Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------C15174D0DD959AAA1C6882AE--