PipeChat Digest #1988 - Sunday, April 1, 2001
 
Re: Baroque Sheet Music on CD-ROM
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "Joshua Haberman" <joshua@haberman.com>
Re: Its April Fools Day......
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
the Death of Bud's HamSuz...<g>
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
(no subject)
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: Voicing the Electroid/Fate of the Famed Hammond
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: hammond organ
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Its April Fools Day......
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Tempermental temperaments
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Voicing the Electroid/Fate of the Famed Hammond
  by "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net>
Re: (no subject)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
CODECs, DACs, ADCs, et al
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Its April Fools Day......
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
CODECs, DACs, ADCs, et al
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
codec?
  by "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com>
Re: Tunings & Temperaments
  by "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com>
Re: Its April Fools Day......
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )
  by <MickBerg@aol.com>
Re: Its April Fools Day......
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: hammond organ
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Baroque Sheet Music on CD-ROM From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:40:36 +0800   Well Ihave bought it from OZ so you should have no trouble, Stepehen. Bob E.   Stephen Barker wrote: > > Wow! this sounds good! But does anyone know whether it is or will be > available in the UK? > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "Joshua Haberman" <joshua@haberman.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:15:18 -0700   * Bob Conway (conwayb@sympatico.ca) wrote: > Also, having got the signal from the LP player to the computer, = presumably > by the LINE Input, what do I do to send that signal to my CD Writer, = which > has the My CD software that came with it.   You'll need to record the signal to a wav file; I'm not aware of any way to record to a computer CD burner in real time (and you'd lose the chance to do touch-up work anyway). Recording to a wav file can be done by any sound editing application, including but not limited to Cool Edit 2000 or Pro (http://www.syntrillium.com/) and Sound Forge (http://www.sonicfoundry.com/). Your sound card may have come with an sound editing program; I think Creative ships one called "WaveStudio."   You then take the wav file that's on your hard drive and write it to CD with your CD writing program. The file should be at 44.1k 16 bit, since that's the sampling rate and resolution of a CD.   Also, as an addendum to my first post, it was pointed out to me by private e-mail that a phono pre-amp is not strictly neccesary if you have a stereo receiver with a phono input and tape recording output--you can simply connect the tape recording output to the line input on the soundcard. I have no idea how this would compare to the various standalone phono preamps, though I'm guessing the quality would not be as good.   Joshua   -- Joshua Haberman = <joshua@haberman.com> University of Puget Sound = <joshua@debian.org> http://www.reverberate.org = <jhaberman@ups.edu>  
(back) Subject: Re: Its April Fools Day...... From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:22:27 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0026_01C0BAAE.CBD9D360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I was not thinking about April Fools' Day, but no one in charge ever =3D told me about what to put in the bulletin to inform people about the =3D memorial Easter lilies, after a prompting last week in the bulletin. So = =3D this week, since I was convinced no one ever read the bulletin, I =3D started to write, "What shall we do about the Easter lilies?" =3D20   But I got to thinking, Wasn't there a song similar to that?=3D20   So, instead, I wrote, "What shall we do about the drunken sailor and the = =3D Easter lilies?"   They noticed.   Glenda Sutton   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0026_01C0BAAE.CBD9D360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I was not thinking about April Fools' = =3D Day,=3D20 but&nbsp;no one in charge ever told me about what to put in the bulletin = =3D to=3D20 inform&nbsp;people about the memorial Easter lilies, after a prompting =3D last week=3D20 in the bulletin.&nbsp; So this week, since I was convinced no one ever =3D read the=3D20 bulletin, I started to write, "What shall we do about the Easter =3D lilies?"&nbsp;=3D20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>But I got to thinking, Wasn't there a = =3D song similar=3D20 to that?&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>So, instead, I wrote, "What shall we = do =3D about the=3D20 drunken sailor and the Easter lilies?"</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>They noticed.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Glenda =3D Sutton</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0026_01C0BAAE.CBD9D360--    
(back) Subject: the Death of Bud's HamSuz...<g> From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:30:04 -0500   Bud wrote:   >DesertBob is now the proud owner of the Hammond (grin) ... I think he's >gonna make a roll-top desk out of it (chuckle).   dB got LGH, Bud?? Ya gotta be KIDDING!!   Surely, this must be the April Fool's joke for the day...<roflmao>   Do I sense impending Leslie parts to be had on eBay...??? <wink>   Tim (who wants to see pics of *that* bonfire, dB!)      
(back) Subject: (no subject) From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:39:33 -0400   Joshua wrote: <snip> "Also, as an addendum to my first post, it was pointed out to me by private e-mail that a phono pre-amp is not strictly necessary if you have a stereo receiver with a phono input and tape recording output--you   can simply connect the tape recording output to the line input on the soundcard. I have no idea how this would compare to the various standalone phono preamps, though I'm guessing the quality would not be as good. " <snip>   Does this mean I would get better quality from a standalone preamp connected directly to my turntable, and then connected to my sound card, than I would when I play back the CD through the offending lesser quality integreted preamp in my reciever. Hmmmm Sounds to me like I should buy a new quality separate preamp, and plug it into the aux input when playing back through my sound system. It would be the only way to improve the sound system enough to take advantage of the better quality recording--No?   Mike Gettelman      
(back) Subject: Re: Voicing the Electroid/Fate of the Famed Hammond From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:21:11 -0700   At 07:19 AM 4/1/2001 -0400, you wrote: >( Not that we organbuilders imbide....) <snip>   Nope...<hick!>....nevur happen, ossifer!   I'm reminded of the passage in Barnes' book on this very subject.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: hammond organ From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:35:56 -0700   At 08:19 AM 4/1/2001 -0400, you wrote: >They will consider trading for a Hammond C-3, with a tone cabinet, cause= with >a Lesiie speaker, it just wouldn't be a fair trade... <snip>   All well and good for the requisite April Fool's Day joke. Unfortunately,= =20 this is a little too close for comfort in these days of "happy-clappyism"=20 and "pray-and-sway" garbage. Recently, Southern Californian Hammond renter= =20 Mike Kahrs delivered a B-3 and Leslie 122 to none other than the "silica=20 basilica" for some pRaZe bAnD presentation that was to take place. I had=20 informed Mike, who is not cognizant of anything to do with real organs, to= =20 take a look at the huge "Rough-Fatty"/=C6olian-Skinner amalgam ensconced=20 within while he made his delivery. He was in awe over its sheer size and=20 its presentation. He made an observation that his rental Hammond seemed=20 totally insignificant next to such a large, imposing instrument, whereupon= =20 one of the 'pRaZeRz' from the church informed him, "Naw...we'd rather have= =20 YOURS!" After some digging, it seemed that there was a consensus among the= =20 robotic-looking youths that somehow the pipe organ represented "evil".   Hardly good news from the "community church industry" these days, at all,=20 and NOT an April Fool's joke!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Its April Fools Day...... From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:41:04 -0400   Bruce Cornely said:   >Today I'm a reader at the Confirmation service. I considered walking to = the >lectern and saying:   >A reading from the Prophet Jeremiah.   >Thus saith the Lord, >YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!! BBWWWWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA   >(um.... April Fool!!!)     >ya think????   As a humble proxy for the congregation I must congratulate you on your self-control.   ...although you did miss a window of opportunity not usually available in Christian liturgy: "Why is this [day/night] different from other [days/nights]?"  
(back) Subject: Re: Tempermental temperaments From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:39:40 -0700   At 09:32 PM 4/1/2001 +0800, you wrote: >I'm not a donkey tuner!<snip>   Well, maybe one CAN tune a donkey ... but you CAN'T tuna fish!   /sound rimshots.wav   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Voicing the Electroid/Fate of the Famed Hammond From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 21:14:05 +0100       Bob Scarborough wrote: > > At 07:19 AM 4/1/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >( Not that we organbuilders imbide....) <snip> > > Nope...<hick!>....nevur happen, ossifer! > > I'm reminded of the passage in Barnes' book on this very subject. > > Or, as we say round here, "good consternoon aftable"   Colin.  
(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:50:46 -0700   At 02:39 PM 4/1/2001 -0400, Mike wrote: >Does this mean I would get better quality from a standalone >preamp connected directly to my turntable, and then connected to my >sound card, than I would when I play back the CD through the offending >lesser quality integreted preamp in my reciever.<snip>   Well, everything's relative. Phono pre-amp stages on many "receivers" = vary wildly in competence, some in older such units being actually worse than the Radio Shack bargain unit first mentioned by Mr. Nichols. As stated, the $20 unit tested out fairly well, and its signal-to-noise ratio is just =   comfortably below the magic 10 dB separation figure (most LPs generally exhibit a figure of 40 to 50 dB at best) to be invisible in terms of noise =   addition. The hassle of moving a receiver out of your system, over to = your computer, moving it back again and so on make this less a favorable situation, no matter what the pre-amp's specs are.   >Hmmmm Sounds to me like I should buy a new quality separate preamp, and >plug it into the aux input when playing back through my sound system. It >would be the only way to improve the sound system enough to take = advantage >of the better quality recording--No?<snip>   I'm not sure where you're going with this ... new pre-amp for what? The issue here is providing a proper pre-amp to amplify magnetic (or electeret =   .... one of "phonodom's" best kept secrets) cartridge signal, provide RIAA =   restoration curve and provide a line level signal to the computer's sound card for purposes of signal processing and CD burning. What happens over in your sound system is determined by the quality of your CD player, whatever that my be. It's a "one shot" deal in this regard if you're = going to burn the LP to CD and retire the LP. Knowing the organ LP collection I =   have, I'd be hard pressed to justify building an "esoteric" phono pre-amp with a 100 dB S/N ratio just to transfer these discs, as the quality just simply isn't there.   One must remember that the goal here is to stay comfortably below the S/N ratio of the source material, which is already limited to 40-50 dB at best =   due to tape hiss, lathe and table rumble, warpage and other defects of the =   breed. Thus, it does no good at all to spend time and effort chasing another 30 dB of "quiet", since it won't make any difference at all. Rule =   of thumb: if steady-state, "A" weighted noise of two noise sources in a signal chain are more than 10 dB apart, they will not be additive, and the =   higher noise source will prevail. If they are within 10 dB, the lower noise power will indeed begin to affect the final output in terms of power =   addition. Worst case is if two devices have the same S/N ratio, noise floor will increase 3 dB, reflecting the doubling of broadband noise power. 3 dB is barely perceptible to most human ears. Thus, this quickly =   becomes not an issue of building the pre-amp for noise performance, but rather a "hassle/cost vs. final outcome" argument. Synopsis: Except on the BEST LPs, the $20 Radio Shack alternative will probably work OK to = most ears, assuming a good table, arm and cartridge.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: CODECs, DACs, ADCs, et al From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:09:39 -0700   At 12:36 PM 4/1/2001 +0100, you wrote: >I would love to tangle with you, but unfortunately I have no interest in >such subjects.<snip>   At this time, I would like to apologize to all the list for getting out of =   hand. I do have issues with the current crops of "diginerds" in the computer industry who are currently trying to rewrite electronic history, and I got carried away to the chagrin of many. I have scholarly = references at hand as to the true definition of "codec" and so on, but it's too far off topic, and obviously fans the flames too much to get into here. Shill =   publisher Ziff-Davis, however, does not qualify as a "source authority" in =   my book, but that's my opinion.   >I will blow the dust off my hedge trimmer, and untangle your ego for >you.<snip>   Please, I pray, do not bother. My weed whacker has already wrapped my leg =   up nicely for me this morning and covered the yard with DayGlo orange nylon. Alas, I also have no hedge! However, you may consider using said hedge trimmer on your posts, as you seem not to edit them to suitable = size.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Its April Fools Day...... From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:51:27 -0700     --------------5B03134E5D024CDA22E9B881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Not at St. Matthew's, if you read the service list (grin).   Actually, we DIDN'T use the organ much today ... sang the Mass a cappella (like they need the organ for MERBECKE??!!), the Psalm, the Communion Hymn, and the last verses of the Processional and Recessional Hymns ... I decided not to play a closing voluntary.   Everything's draped in purple, and the Rector preached on the Cross (of course) ... no tomfoolery at OUR place (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Doppelflote8@aol.com wrote:   > > What...no April Fools Day music postings???? > Wheres our sense of humor? A little PDQ Bach would be so appropriate > for > today, and I bet our congregations would love it! > > Hey, we dont have to be serious all the time now do we. > > Off to church with grin and a chuckle, > Alan   --------------5B03134E5D024CDA22E9B881 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> Not at St. Matthew's, if you read the service list (grin). <p>Actually, we DIDN'T use the organ much today ... sang the Mass a = cappella (like they need the organ for MERBECKE??!!), the Psalm, the Communion = Hymn, and the last verses of the Processional and Recessional Hymns ... I = decided not to play a closing voluntary. <p>Everything's draped in purple, and the Rector preached on the Cross (of course) ... no tomfoolery at OUR place (grin). <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <p>Doppelflote8@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>&nbsp; <br><font face=3D"Arial Black"><font size=3D-1>What...no April Fools Day = music postings????</font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial Black"><font size=3D-1>Wheres our sense of = humor?&nbsp; A little PDQ Bach would be so appropriate for</font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial Black"><font size=3D-1>today, and I bet our = congregations would love it!</font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial Black"><font size=3D-1>Hey, we dont have to be = serious all the time now do we.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial Black"><font size=3D-1>Off to church with grin and = a chuckle,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial Black"><font = size=3D-1>Alan</font></font></blockquote>   </body> </html>   --------------5B03134E5D024CDA22E9B881--    
(back) Subject: CODECs, DACs, ADCs, et al From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:30:00 EDT   DeserTBob writes:   >At this time, I would like to apologize to all the list for getting out = of >hand.<<     Wish you hadn't done that, Bob. May start a trend in this penitential = season and if all who should apologize do so, a lot of bandwidth will be = consumed. Seems all organ lists ('cept EORG-L) have been inflicted with perpetual = PMS which destroys both the worth and intent of the lists.   Think I'll take my marbles and go home.   Jim  
(back) Subject: codec? From: "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:56:59 -0400   Would Desert Bob (or anybody else, for that matter) kindly explain to me = in non-technical words of one syllable wherein "codec" and "modem" differ? Bob's description of codec sounded for all the world like my understanding of what modem means. I must be missing something.   Thanks.    
(back) Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:41:03 -0500   Ain't medication wonderful. If we remember it that is. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Tunings & Temperaments     > At 05:04 PM 3/31/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >hmmmm... > >I've been tuning just the other way around when "laying the bearing" by > >ear.<snip> > > DAH! Old-Timers' strikes again! My deepest apologies for meaning one > thing, typing something else! My even deeper deepest apologies to those > that responded, saying, "Oh my God! I've screwed up 1,528 organs and = more > pianos!" > > Heading for medication, > > dB > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:54:41 -0500   My only input on the subject is about the subject line itself. I have a hang up as I was crucified for using "ect" rather than the correct "etc." (from two words, et (and) and cetera (the rest). Now back to o ur = scheduled off topic ; ). No offense or brickbats intended, just information. Bill From: "Joshua Haberman" <joshua@haberman.com> Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta )     > * Bob Scarborough (desertbob@rglobal.net) wrote: > > Sorry, lil fella. Check your facts next time you decide to tangle = with > > me. > > You don't intimidate me. Obviously you know a lot, but if you assert > something I'm reasonably certain is wrong, I will call you on it, even > if it's a promise of the condescending tone you take with anyone who > disagrees with you. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. Why must it be a > contest? > > > The term "codec" does not, nor ever has, any connotation of > > "compression" and "decompression", whether the nefarious MPEG Layer 3, > > or any other. > > The Webopedia (http://webopedia.internet.com/), mirrored by ZDNet, AOL, > and Lycos, lists as the first definition of codec: > > Short for compressor/decompressor, a codec is any technology for > compressing and decompressing data. Codecs can be implemented in > software, hardware, or a combination of both. Some popular codecs > for computer video include MPEG, Indeo and Cinepak. > > A site called "Acronym Finder" (http://www.acronymfinder.com/) lists as > its first match for CODEC: > > Compression/Decompression Module (usually applied to audio data) > > Thomson Multimedia themselves, creators of mp3, refer to "a new mp3 > coding-decoding (codec) format" in a recent press release > (http://www.thomson-multimedia.com/vus/04/042/01/090101.htm). Though > they call it coding-decoding, they're using it in the "compression and > decompression" sense, as it is in reference to mp3. > > I make no claim to the meaning of "codec" in the context of > telecommunications, since I know nothing about the phone system. But in > computer media vernacular, the most common use of "codec" is in > reference to compression/decompression. The device which converts > digital to analog (or vice-versa) is most commonly referred to as a DAC, > or Digital-Analog Converter. > > > The Turtle Beach product is barely better in codec signal-to-noise > > ratio than is a SoundBlaster AWE 32, which is dreadful at about 50 dB, > > less than a quality LP pressing! > > Which Turtle Beach product specifically? Because the website I cited > earlier (http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/) reports the Fiji's S/N > ratio to be 93 dB digital->analog and 83 dB analog->digital. Where do > you get your data? > > Joshua > > -- > Joshua Haberman > University of Puget Sound > http://www.reverberate.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Its April Fools Day...... From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 20:34:21 -0500       quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote, in part:   > ...<snip>... the Rector preached on the Cross (of course) ...   If it wasn't quite a large cross, he might have been a bit uncomfortable, but as an April fool's thing, I guess it works...        
(back) Subject: Re: Turntables Ect, ( off topic sorta ) From: <MickBerg@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:56:36 EDT     --part1_b7.cc458a7.27f93654_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi. Another supposedly high-quality sound card is the EMU APS which costs = about $600. I bought a used one as part of the development of my PCOrgan. Unfortunately I didn't test the audio as I was only using it for MIDI and Soundfonts. But it is supposed to have high quality mic preamps and DAC's = and ADC's, (and it might even have the odd Codec stuck in there somewhere = (sorry, DesertBob:-)) However the Mic inputs are on 1/4" phone jacks, with no phantom power available. Doesn't suggest professional quality to me.... Mick Berg.   --part1_b7.cc458a7.27f93654_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Hi. <BR>Another supposedly high-quality sound card is the EMU APS which costs = about <BR>$600. I bought a used one as part of the development of my PCOrgan. <BR>Unfortunately I didn't test the audio as I was only using it for MIDI = and <BR>Soundfonts. But it is supposed to have high quality mic preamps and = DAC's and <BR>ADC's, (and it might even have the odd Codec stuck in there somewhere = (sorry, <BR>DesertBob:-)) <BR>However the Mic inputs are on 1/4" phone jacks, with no phantom power <BR>available. Doesn't suggest professional quality to me.... <BR>Mick Berg.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b7.cc458a7.27f93654_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Its April Fools Day...... From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:57:21 EDT     --part1_57.13cf0dad.27f93681_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/1/2001 5:48:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > and the Rector preached on the Cross (of course)   How on earth did you get him up there?   Anonymous   --part1_57.13cf0dad.27f93681_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 4/1/2001 5:48:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">and the Rector = preached on the Cross (of course)</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>How on earth did you get him up there? <BR> <BR>Anonymous</FONT></HTML>   --part1_57.13cf0dad.27f93681_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: hammond organ From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:57:24 EDT     --part1_75.127f31a3.27f93684_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/1/2001 8:21:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Pologaptommy@aol.com writes:     > I am writing this post for my new church.... > Well and truly done - brilliant!!   Malcolm Wechsler Mander Organs, U. S. A. - Fine digital instruments for the world since = 1936   --part1_75.127f31a3.27f93684_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 4/1/2001 8:21:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>Pologaptommy@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am writing this = post for my new church.... <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0">Well and truly done - brilliant!! <BR> <BR>Malcolm Wechsler <BR>Mander Organs, U. S. A. - Fine digital instruments for the world since = 1936</FONT></HTML>   --part1_75.127f31a3.27f93684_boundary--