PipeChat Digest #2003 - Saturday, April 7, 2001
 
Joseph Bonnet
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2000 DESERTBOB DON'T LEAVE
  by "Jim Filsinger" <kimballl@yahoo.com>
Roofing materials in pipes
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Roofing stuff in pipes and other things
  by <Doppelflote8@aol.com>
Palm Sunday (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
(no subject)
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re: Joseph Bonnet
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Potential Hymnal Publishers
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: FELIX HELL. Recital Schedule April/May
  by "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net>
Re:  FELIX HELL. Recital Schedule April/May
  by "hell-concerts" <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de>
Re: Joseph Bonnet
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
Re: Roofing and pipes
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Roofing and pipes
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Roofing and pipes
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Organ Shoes
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: Roofing and pipes
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Organ Shoes
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Roofing and pipes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Organ Shoes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Organ Shoes
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: Organ Shoes
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
RE: Organ Shoes
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
Re: Organ Shoes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Organ Shoes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Joseph Bonnet From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:34:59 -0500   Hi list, does anyone know where I can get a copy of an organ work entitled: Concert Varations opus 1 by Joseph Bonnet? Thanks for your help. Gary    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2000 DESERTBOB DON'T LEAVE From: "Jim Filsinger" <kimballl@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:35:30 -0700 (PDT)   --0-299018062-986650530=3D:5275 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii       TRACKELECT@cs.com wrote: In a message dated 4/6/01 1:26:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RonSeverin@aol.com writes:   << I second the motion, All in favor say Aye! >> Aye!   Alan B   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org       --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! = Mail. --0-299018062-986650530=3D:5275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <P> <BR> <P>&nbsp; <B><I>TRACKELECT@cs.com</I></B> wrote: <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In a message dated 4/6/01 1:26:16 PM Eastern Daylight = Time, <BR>RonSeverin@aol.com writes:<BR><BR>&lt;&lt; I second the motion, = All in favor say Aye!<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>Aye! <BR><BR>Alan B<BR><BR>"Pipe Up = and Be Heard!"<BR>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs = &amp; related topics<BR>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org<BR>List: = mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org<BR>Administration: = mailto:admin@pipechat.org<BR>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: = mailto:requests@pipechat.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=3D1><b>Do You = Yahoo!?</b><br> <a href=3D"http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=3Dmailiyfoot">Yahoo! = Mail Personal Address</a> - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. --0-299018062-986650530=3D:5275--  
(back) Subject: Roofing materials in pipes From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:14:29 EDT   Hi y'all,   A few months ago we had a new roof put on the church. Unfortunately, we = have the tongue in grove planks on the ceiling. The organ is in the back = balcony. I didn't give much thought to the reroofing affecting the organ.... A = fine layer of dust was found all over the nave, chancel, choir loft, and organ when the job was complete. I played the organ for a number of weeks and didn't think I had much to worry about.... WRONG!   Eventually the dust which had collected in the resonators of the Trumpet = had migrated to the boots and tongues... Rendering the Trumpet unplayable = (which is fine during Lent - since I don't use the Trumpet or Mixture much in = this penitential season). Last week, Ross King and myself investigated... We cleaned some trash out of boots and resonators and tuned. With any luck = they will hold until Easter Sunday service is complete. The really bad news is that the entire rank will have to be removed and thoroughly cleaned = sometime in the not too distant future.   My advice is this... if you have a similar set up and know that roofing = work is scheduled to be done contact your organ builder/technician and make arrangements for pipes (especially reeds) to be protected by plastic = sheeting -- it is much cheaper than the alternative...   John Gambill Organist/CHM Oak Cliff Lutheran Church Dallas, TX  
(back) Subject: Roofing stuff in pipes and other things From: <Doppelflote8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:33:16 EDT     --part1_22.14689047.28008d3c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   We have jsut undergona a major Sanctuary restroation pjroject that = included rewireing, structural and redecorating. I told the "decorating committee" =   that the organ had to be protected. They siad..."huh?" When I found out that the roof truss over the case and great division needed work, we depiped 12 ranks of great and the choir reeds and the = choir 2', which if left in, would have succumbed to the contractors boots.   Folks..its worth repeating. No matter what the project protect the instrument. have your service firm do everything possible. If cost is a factor, and it always is,just remember that its more expensive to clean = all the reeds, revoice them and repair flue work than its is to store them in pipetrays for a while.   Still organ-less in Methuen, Alan   --part1_22.14689047.28008d3c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial Black" LANG=3D"0">We have jsut = undergona a major Sanctuary restroation pjroject that included <BR>rewireing, structural and redecorating. &nbsp;I told the "decorating = committee" <BR>that the organ had to be protected. &nbsp; <BR>They siad..."huh?" &nbsp; <BR>When I found out that the roof truss over the case and great division <BR>needed work, we depiped 12 ranks of great and the choir reeds and the = choir <BR>2', which if left in, would have succumbed to the contractors boots. <BR> <BR>Folks..its worth repeating. &nbsp;No matter what the project protect = the <BR>instrument. &nbsp;have your service firm do everything possible. = &nbsp;If cost is a <BR>factor, and it always is,just remember that its more expensive to = clean all <BR>the reeds, revoice them and repair flue work than its is to store them = in <BR>pipetrays for a while. <BR> <BR>Still organ-less in Methuen, <BR>Alan</FONT></HTML>   --part1_22.14689047.28008d3c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Palm Sunday (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 08:59:00 -0700   My soprano soloist is deathly ill with the 'flu'; it's been POURING down rain all night; so much for Palm-Sunday-In-The-Parking-Lot tomorrow (grin) ... just as well ... we were going to attempt it with our Kawai spinet organ-on-wheels and a LONG extension cord (grin), and we didn't have time to try it beforehand.   This too shall pass ...   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: (no subject) From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:56:16 EDT   Ron Severin writes:     >It's great to see the Desert Man come out of pipechat retirement too! >See we couldn't go twelve hours without hearing from the great one!<<   This is true. With the demise of Maestro Fox, we would be without a Caped =   Crusader should dB retire to obscurity. I would love to meet dB and visit = a while. His verifiable knowledge on so many subjects is totally = fascinating. (that's no bouquet thrown at you, Bob, just a personal opinion I wanted to =   share)   Jim P  
(back) Subject: Re: Joseph Bonnet From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:18:11 -0400     > Hi list, does anyone know where I can get a copy of an organ work > entitled: Concert > Varations opus 1 by Joseph Bonnet? Thanks for your help. Gary > I should think it's still available for purchase. Leduc published it = in Paris, and it's in their August 1998 catalog, the latest I have in hand.   Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Potential Hymnal Publishers From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:26:52 EDT     --part1_c5.f8d2e8d.2800b5ec_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I am curious as to what publishing houses may be available to put together =   and publish a hymnal. Any thoughts, ideas and contact information will be =   very helpful. Thanks so much in advance. (Of course I know about GIA and =   OCP.) But I need to find sources to speak with about this project asap.   Scott F. Foppiano, National Shrine of the Little Flower   --part1_c5.f8d2e8d.2800b5ec_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am curious as to what = publishing houses may be available to put together <BR>and publish a hymnal. &nbsp;Any thoughts, ideas and contact = information will be <BR>very helpful. &nbsp;Thanks so much in advance. &nbsp;(Of course I know = about GIA and <BR>OCP.) <BR>But I need to find sources to speak with about this project asap. <BR> <BR>Scott F. Foppiano, National Shrine of the Little Flower</FONT></HTML>   --part1_c5.f8d2e8d.2800b5ec_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: FELIX HELL. Recital Schedule April/May From: "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:31:27 -0400 (EDT)   Being that I am originally from Jamaica, can you give any information on the Felix Hell recital there on May 27. I understand that the organ in the church is a Rodgers. Ed Brown    
(back) Subject: Re: FELIX HELL. Recital Schedule April/May From: "hell-concerts" <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:07:10 +0200   Dear Mr. Brown,   the church in in Mona Heights: Church of the Ascension. Unfortunately in our website recital schedule I noticed a mistake (the location is not "Monika Heights").   Kind regards   Hans-Friedrich Hell   Ed Brown schrieb: > Being that I am originally from Jamaica, can you give any > information on the Felix Hell recital there on May 27. I > understand that the organ in the church is a Rodgers. > Ed Brown > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Joseph Bonnet From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:51:07 -0400   At 08:34 07/04/2001 -0500, Gary wrote: >Hi list, does anyone know where I can get a copy of an organ work >entitled: Concert >Varations opus 1 by Joseph Bonnet?   The Organ Historic Society lists in their 2001 catalogue, Cat.# 513-00087 "Variations de Concert" by Bonnet.for $19.95. Is this what you want? Their web site is <www.ohscatalog.org>   HD    
(back) Subject: Re: Roofing and pipes From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:10:17 -0500   Thanks so very much for writing on this topic. Our church has just been awarded a historical grant to raise the sides of the church (which have allegedly settled) up to its original setting (no more than a few inches) and to install a new roof. This is a 100+ year old church with tongue-and-groove ceiling.   Last Saturday I walked into a mess. The former senior warden decided late Friday night to commence ripping out the old wooden wall behind the high altar to repaint. Well, unknown to her but known to everyone else, there was nothing behind that wall. So sheeting had to put over the hole until the exterminator could examine and rule on the old termite damage and plasterers could come in. Thankfully, after Sunday service they installed = a huge black plastic "curtain" over the area to keep the dust and mess from permeating the whole church, including the organ (during this time they decided to strip the wood floor there also). Thankfully, it is all done including the painting, and the curtain gone with no more problems.   This brings me to my questions:   (1) I am guessing that it will take no more than 2 weeks (maybe no more than one) to reroof the small church. With the small dimensions of my = organ and the absence of reeds, could plastic sheeting spread over the top of = the organ and the pipes over the narthex be sufficient protection from any = dust or plaster? I do not envision any major complications resulting in major mess (that will come later when we have to replaster the cracks that have developed and will develop further from the leveling of the church).   (2) Should I have any major concerns about the leveling of the church itself as having a deletorious effect on the organ, assuming that the = sides are raised no more than a couple inches or so and the settling most likely occurred since the building of the organ?   (3) Once the exterior work is done and we have to touch up the walls, = should any additional protection to the organ be provided other than provided in paragraph (1)?   I will have both the builder and the one maintaining the organ for consulting purposes on this, but thought I might draw on the expertise of the list for awareness of anything I might not have caught.   Thanks,   Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: Re: Roofing and pipes From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:10:03 EDT   Hi Glenda:   My church recently razed the roof and replaced it in a Earthquake = retrofit. All our pipes were out in the open, and we indeed had them plastic = wrapped. The organ was still playable although a bit out of tune. It would have = been catastrophic otherwise. If your instrument is enclosed in a swell box, just cover the box opening with plastic. It's amazing how debris floats around the building and gets into things anyway. The plastic minimized the potential damage that could have occurred. If some of your pipes are exposed cover them. If in danger of worker damage take them down for the few weeks that things might be in total chaos.   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: RE: Roofing and pipes From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:25:42 -0400       -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of RonSeverin@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 5:10 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Roofing and pipes     Hi Glenda:   My church recently razed the roof and replaced it in a Earthquake retrofit...   May I suggest that photographs be taken before any work is started. Even = if no work is planned it's a good idea to have the entire organ documented- preferably on video- in the event of a damaging accident. I keep a video catalogue of any organ that I service.   rgrds., A. Mead    
(back) Subject: Organ Shoes From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:26:06 EDT     --part1_cb.fb84d8d.2800dfee_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I need to purchase a new pair of men's shoes which will serve for both = street use and organ playing. I know there are at least two firms in North = America which provide shoes specifically for organ playing. My general = impression is that they are not durable for street use. I generally cannot carry an extra pair with me, especially when traveling. Does anyone have a = suggestion? Jerry in Seattle   --part1_cb.fb84d8d.2800dfee_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I need to purchase a = new pair of men's shoes which will serve for both street <BR>use and organ playing. I know there are at least two firms in North = America <BR>which provide shoes specifically for organ playing. &nbsp;&nbsp;My = general impression <BR>is that they are not durable for street use. I generally cannot carry = an <BR>extra pair with me, especially when traveling. &nbsp;Does anyone have = a suggestion? <BR>Jerry in Seattle</FONT></HTML>   --part1_cb.fb84d8d.2800dfee_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Roofing and pipes From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:45:38 EDT   Hi Andrew:   We did take still photos of every part of the organ.   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Shoes From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:52:06 EDT   Hi Jerry:   A good used pair of black shoes can be made serviceable in a shoe repair shop. Have them put leather soles and heels on. You probably have an extra pair or two in your closet, that would work. Fred Swann and I have the same shoe repair man here in Orange, CA. A used pair of shoes are always more comfortable as they are already broken in. It's easy to have them converted over.   regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Roofing and pipes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:31:47 EDT     --part1_ea.13e95728.2800ef53_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Glenda, Since the organ is so small, I would recommend simply removing and = carefully packing the pipes in trays and storing in a safe place. If workers are above the pipes, there is always the chance of something being dropped. This might be a good opportunity to wash all of the pipes and dust the windchests. Dust has an amazing way of going everywhere. I would not want to take the chance.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_ea.13e95728.2800ef53_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Glenda, <BR>Since the organ is so small, I would recommend simply removing and = carefully <BR>packing the pipes in trays and storing in a safe place. &nbsp;&nbsp;If = workers are <BR>above the pipes, there is always the chance of something being = dropped. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>This might be a good opportunity to wash all of the pipes and dust the =   <BR>windchests. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dust has an amazing way of going = everywhere. &nbsp;&nbsp;I would not <BR>want to take the chance. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ea.13e95728.2800ef53_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Shoes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:38:37 EDT     --part1_25.1374503b.2800f0ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   The only suggestion I can give is be sure to get leather heels and soles, otherwise you will not be able to slide on the pedals. You might also = want to carry some very fine steel wool to clean the bottoms with before you = play an organ. Be sure that the shoes have narrow soles (don't get wingtips), =   and they they fit your feet very comfortably. I've always had good luck with loafers, provided they fit well. Remember, even if you don't play organ in them, they need to fit well. ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_25.1374503b.2800f0ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>The only suggestion I = can give is be sure to get leather heels and soles, <BR>otherwise you will not be able to slide on the pedals. &nbsp;You might = also want <BR>to carry some very fine steel wool to clean the bottoms with before = you play <BR>an organ. &nbsp;&nbsp;Be sure that the shoes have narrow soles (don't = get wingtips), <BR>and they they fit your feet very comfortably. &nbsp;&nbsp;I've always = had good luck <BR>with loafers, provided they fit well. &nbsp;&nbsp;Remember, even if = you don't play <BR>organ in them, they need to fit well. &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_25.1374503b.2800f0ed_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Shoes From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 18:58:22 -0400   Jerry:   My wife is an Organmaster Shoes person...meaning she won't play without = them.   I'm like you and have found the best solution to the problem to be leather-soled Florscheim shoes...but recently I have discovered leather soled shoes at Penneys that work just as well for about $44.   All of these shoes have rubber heels, which I like, but if you are deadest on leather heels they could be put on. Hope this helps.   PS: Not all Florscheims and Penneys shoes have leather soles...check before you buy.   -- noel jones, aago ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ moderator, rodgers organ users group www.frogmusic.com/rodgers.html  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Shoes From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:12:56 -0500   I use moccasins.   Rick    
(back) Subject: RE: Organ Shoes From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:23:38 +0100   Normally I use black leather brogues with leather soles/heels - I couldn't be bothered changing / carrying shoes all the time and so learnt pedal technique from the beginning with my outdoor shoes.   However, my claim to fame is having played the 4m Rushworth & Dreaper in Guildford Cathedral, wearing steel toe-capped Dr. Marten calf-length boots.....!!   Regards   Andrew   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of VEAGUE Sent: 08 April 2001 00:13 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Organ Shoes     I use moccasins.   Rick     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Shoes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:28:21 EDT     --part1_a9.13ca97c0.28010aa5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/7/01 3:57:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = gedeckt@usit.net writes:     > All of these shoes have rubber heels, which I like, but if you are > deadest on leather heels they could be put on. Hope this helps. > >   The problem with rubber heels is that they work like putting on the brakes =   when your doing pedal work. They also sometimes leave black marks on the =   pedals. Some new composition heels do not scuff pedals, but they still = work like brakes.   I've discovered that after getting used to walking on leather heels and = soles that I have difficulty with using composition or rubber soles.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_a9.13ca97c0.28010aa5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/7/01 3:57:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gedeckt@usit.net <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">All of these shoes = have rubber heels, which I like, but if you are <BR>deadest on leather heels they could be put on. &nbsp;Hope this helps. = &nbsp; <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>The problem with rubber heels is that they work like putting on the = brakes <BR>when your doing pedal work. &nbsp;&nbsp;They also sometimes leave = black marks on the <BR>pedals. &nbsp;&nbsp;Some new composition heels do not scuff pedals, = but they still work <BR>like brakes. <BR> <BR>I've discovered that after getting used to walking on leather heels = and soles <BR>that I have difficulty with using composition or rubber soles. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a9.13ca97c0.28010aa5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Shoes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:29:36 EDT     --part1_cb.fb7ea41.28010af0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/7/01 4:25:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, caskie@totalise.co.uk writes:     > However, my claim to fame is having played the 4m Rushworth & Dreaper in > Guildford Cathedral, wearing steel toe-capped Dr. Marten calf-length > boots.....!! >   OK, smarty pants.... but can you put out candles on the altar during rests =   with your six-shooter??? ;-)     Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_cb.fb7ea41.28010af0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/7/01 4:25:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>caskie@totalise.co.uk writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">However, my claim = to fame is having played the 4m Rushworth &amp; Dreaper in <BR>Guildford Cathedral, wearing steel toe-capped Dr. Marten calf-length <BR>boots.....!! <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>OK, smarty pants.... but can you put out candles on the altar during = rests <BR>with your six-shooter??? &nbsp;&nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_cb.fb7ea41.28010af0_boundary--