PipeChat Digest #2006 - Sunday, April 8, 2001
 
Re: The Palms
  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: The Palms
  by "r" <basset3@warwick.net>
Re: The Palms
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
the palms
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: The Palms
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: The Palms
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Passion Sunday on a small Wicks (was: the palms)
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
what to play on a 5-rank Wicks (was "The Palms")
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: The Palms
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: The Palms
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Maundy Thursday - St. Matthew's, Costa Mesa CA USA (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: The Palms
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: The Palms
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: The Palms
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Good Friday - St. Matthew's, Costa Mesa CA USA (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
slightly off-topic: the duality of Palm Sunday
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
The Palms et al
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
The Palms PROTESTANT?!?!?!
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re:  The Palms
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Which Faure?
  by "diaphone 64" <diaphone64@hotmail.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:59:31 -0400   Our Church uses The Palms as the processional, as it has done every year since at LEAST 1928 !     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY     On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:15:06 -0500 "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> writes: > Anyone play "The Palms" today? How protestant can you get? Putting > on > my flameproof armour here. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: "r" <basset3@warwick.net> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:17:57 -0400   First, a piano/organ duet for prelude of The Palms. Second, the choir singing The Palms. Third, sections of Lani Smith's "Stations of the Cross" to give the congregation the passion experience (since hardly anyone goes to Maundy Thursday and Good Friday). Then palms distributed by the ushers.   [Concession to modern times--so congregation doesn't go from palms to resurrection but has a dose of crucifixion thrown in for good measure. = Plus children beat up on each other and parents during the service so the palms are distributed after the crucifixion part. If you sit through the entire service, you get your palms as a take-home souvenir.]   With a "Where you There When . . . " in process as a solemn postlude, the usual post-service bedlam broke loose. A rush for the sandwiches and punch.   Robert Clooney   P.S. Liturgical hodgepodge??      
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:06:57 -0500   Karl, apparently your congregation is made up of much deeper thinkers - = I'm not sure my congregation even listen to or read the text. It's just a pretty song.   Glenda Sutton   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>   > So while the essence of Palm Sunday is a horrible story of human > fickleness and sin, this cutsie song walzes along as though the day were = a > victory celebration. People like it, of course, because it lets them shield > themselves from the real subject matter and have a good time in church. > Popular, yeah; responsible, hardly. Artistic value: just about zilch. It > plays well to the masses, but in the name of responsible music and > churchmanship, it's best forgotten.        
(back) Subject: the palms From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:21:02 -0500   Playing in a small UMC in the heart of the cornfields of Illinois, the congregation likes some of the "old standards." I know it is not the best in music nor is it much on scripture but whatelse is there to play on the 1946, unified big time, 5 rank mighty Wicks? I would really like to know what would be good on an instrument this small. Gary    
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 18:24:44 -0500   Hello, everyone!   Thanks Karl, for the rundown on "The Palms". My confession: I don't = think I know what it is either. Patty -- you're not alone! <lol>   Now the (perhaps dumb, but I'll take the risk!) question: has anyone *recorded* this musical "gem" anywhere...???   Idle minds want to know... ;-)   Tim (who tends to *like* organ music characterized as "schlock" or "tripe"......<wink>)    
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:24:57 -0500   HI Tim, "schlock or tripe?" You will love these then. lol Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Bovard <tmbovard@arkansas.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 6:24 PM Subject: Re: The Palms     > Hello, everyone! > > Thanks Karl, for the rundown on "The Palms". My confession: I don't think > I know what it is either. Patty -- you're not alone! <lol> > > Now the (perhaps dumb, but I'll take the risk!) question: has anyone > *recorded* this musical "gem" anywhere...??? > > Idle minds want to know... ;-) > > Tim > (who tends to *like* organ music characterized as "schlock" or > "tripe"......<wink>) > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Passion Sunday on a small Wicks (was: the palms) From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 19:39:04 -0400   > Playing in a small UMC in the heart of the cornfields of Illinois, (snip) > whatelse is there to play on the 1946, unified big time, 5 rank mighty = Wicks? I would really like to know what would be good on an instrument this = small. > I played a three-rank Wicks for three years. For this Sunday, the prelude can easily be three settings of "Valet will ich dir geben" ("all Glory, Laud and Honor" by 1. Max Drischner (in his chorale prelude volume without pedals (I played the melody in the soprano voice on the 4' flute in the pedals and the = other voices on the Salicional 8' stop) 2. Alexandre Guilmant (short one on the opening phrase of the chorale; = the piece appeared in the old Clarence Dickinson organ method and appears also in the complete Guilmant works ed. by Wayne Leupold) 3. Max Regerk Op. 67 setting of the chorale (a lovely piece!!!)   This set of three pieces takes about 6-7 minutes.   Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: what to play on a 5-rank Wicks (was "The Palms") From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 16:52:42 -0700   Gary Black wrote:   > Playing in a small UMC in the heart of the cornfields of Illinois, the > congregation likes some of the "old standards." I know it is not the > best in music nor is it much on scripture but whatelse is there to play > on the 1946, unified big time, 5 rank mighty Wicks? I would really > like to know what would be good on an instrument this small. Gary >   Play things on single stops, so you don't lose notes on account of the unification; or used "gapped registrations" ... flute 8, principal 2 or flute 2; I suppose there's no help for having to use principals 8-4-2 for the plenum.   As to WHAT to play ... the same things you'd play on a small tracker: = Fiori musicale (Frescobaldi), the Couperin Masses, the Pachelbel Fugues on the Magnificat (Dover has a good cheap edition) ... the French harmonium books are a TREASURE for the small organ: Franck L'Organiste (Kalmus), Boellman Heurs Mystique (sp?), Dubois Pieces pour Harmonium (not sure of that title), Tournemire Postludes Libres, Langlais, etc. ... the maualiter partitas in the 3 vols. of The Church Organist's Golden Treasury ... the OUP series Tallis to Wesley ... the Disler book for hausorgel (can't remember the title) ... country Methodists would probably like the Lorenz magazine "The Organ" (grin), which is NOT a slam ... I grew UP playing = from it in a country Methodist church. It's printed on two staves with optional pedal. They also have collections gleaned from past issues. Bach - the Pastorale, the "small" chorale preludes in the Clavieruebung, some of the movements of the Partitas.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:51:51 EDT     --part1_be.12939aa0.28025397_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Granted, "The Palms" doesn't exactly tell it like it is. But it does talk =   about Jesus washing our sins away (at least I think I heard that thru my skating-rink accomp). We use it as the opening congregational hymn every year. I used to hate the thing. I'm beginning to almost like it.   However, later in the service, the Sanctuary Choir sang Martin's = arrangement of "When I Survey".   For me it was important to put the Passion part of Passion/Palm Sunday = into music.   Though we are in Lent, we look at Palm Sunday as Easter People. So, even though, the fickle crowd changed their tune rather quickly in that week = 2000 years ago, we don't have to.   Peace. Neil B   --part1_be.12939aa0.28025397_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Granted, "The Palms" = doesn't exactly tell it like it is. &nbsp;But it does talk <BR>about Jesus washing our sins away (at least I think I heard that thru = my <BR>skating-rink accomp). &nbsp;We use it as the opening congregational = hymn every <BR>year. &nbsp;I used to hate the thing. &nbsp;I'm beginning to almost = like it. <BR> <BR>However, later in the service, the Sanctuary Choir sang Martin's = arrangement <BR>of "When I Survey". &nbsp; <BR> <BR>For me it was important to put the Passion part of Passion/Palm Sunday = into <BR>music. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Though we are in Lent, we look at Palm Sunday as Easter People. = &nbsp;So, even <BR>though, the fickle crowd changed their tune rather quickly in that = week 2000 <BR>years ago, we don't have to. <BR> <BR>Peace. <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_be.12939aa0.28025397_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 19:48:23 -0400       > Karl, apparently your congregation is made up of much deeper thinkers - = I'm > not sure my congregation even listen to or read the text. It's just a > pretty song. > No, they probably are not deeper thinkers, at least until someone in a leadership position prods them into deeper thinking. Perhaps that's your and my role. At any rate, we can teach them both by printed comments in = the parish newsletter or the weekly worship folder, by Sunday School teaching = or teaching in other situations, and finally byt the very weight of our practice, that certain thigns are worthy and others are not.   I don't run down specific items; I simply uphold worthy items for = their inherent, expressive and spiritual values in such manner that, after a while, it may just dawn on some folks that certain other things do not = merit such respect. Admittedly, sometimes you must be ready in private conversation to specify what's wrong with a given item, as I have done to individuals at my church about "The Palms." Some folks "get it," and some have such a hard time departing from something they think we've ALWAYS = done that they resist "getting it," no matter how hard you try to explain it to them.   Yes, it's a long road!   Cordially,   Karl > Glenda Sutton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> > >> So while the essence of Palm Sunday is a horrible story of human >> fickleness and sin, this cutsie song walzes along as though the day = were a >> victory celebration. People like it, of course, because it lets them > shield >> themselves from the real subject matter and have a good time in church. >> Popular, yeah; responsible, hardly. Artistic value: just about = zilch. > It >> plays well to the masses, but in the name of responsible music and >> churchmanship, it's best forgotten. > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Maundy Thursday - St. Matthew's, Costa Mesa CA USA (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 17:06:50 -0700   SOLEMN MASS OF THE LORD'S SUPPER - 7 p.m.   Hymn - Verbum supernum prodiens - Gregorian - Mechlin tune Introit - Nos autem - Dr. Willan, SATB Kyrie - Mass IX - Gregorian Gloria - Scottish Chant Psalm 116 - Dilexi, quoniam - Troutbeck in G   AT THE MANDATUM (Foot-Washing), Antiphons   Ubi caritas - Gregorian, mode 6, with fauxbourdon for the refrain Mandatum novum - Gregorian, mode 3 Postquam surrexit - Gregorian, mode 4 Dominus Jesus - Gregorian, mode 2 Domine, tu mihi - Gregorian, mode 5 Si ego Dominus - Gregorian, mode 4 In hoc cognoscent - Gregorian, mode 7 Maneat in vobis - Gregorian, mode 7   Offertory Anthem - Go To Dark Gethsemane - Noble Sanctus - Mass IX - Gregorian Amen - Mass IX - Gregorian Agnus - Mass IX - Gregorian Communion - Hoc corpus - Dr. Willan, SATB (old Passion Sunday) Anthem - Remember Me - folk-song Hymn - Adoro te devote - Gregorian   AT THE PROCESSION TO THE ALTAR OF REPOSE   Hymn - Pange lingua - Gregorian, mode 4, with Palestrina setting of alternate verses   AT THE STRIPPING OF THE ALTARS   Psalm 22 - Deus, Deus meus - Gregorian - Direct Tone   *********************************   That's about as high-church as we get (grin) ... EXCEPT for Good Friday and Easter Vigil.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 19:57:07 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3069604627_977957_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   Though we are in Lent, we look at Palm Sunday as Easter People. So, even though, the fickle crowd changed their tune rather quickly in that week = 2000 years ago, we don't have to.   COMMENT:   It is the reality of our sinful state, however, that causes us to = be just a fickle as that uncomprehending crowd was when Jesus appeared on the donkey. If we are not prepared to admit to this kind of sin, we, as St. Paul said, "deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" The very = point of the lesson is that we *are* fickle and sinful, just like that crowd, = and while we are Easter people, i.e., on this side of the Resurrection event, that does not change our sinful nature.   So there is still no worthy reason to walze our way through or around an observance which essentially has to do with our sin. The reality is, to pick up on the quotation above to which I respond, yes, we *do* change = our tune at least at moments of convenience. That's a major part of the human problem!!   Cordially,   Karl     --MS_Mac_OE_3069604627_977957_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: The Palms</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2">Though we are in Lent, we look at Palm = Sunday as=3D Easter People. &nbsp;So, even <BR> though, the fickle crowd changed their tune rather quickly in that week = 200=3D 0 <BR> years ago, we don't have to. <BR> <BR> COMMENT:<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It is the reality of our sinful = =3D state, however, that causes us to be just a fickle as that uncomprehending = c=3D rowd was when Jesus appeared on the donkey. &nbsp;If we are not prepared = to =3D admit to this kind of sin, we, as St. Paul said, &quot;deceive ourselves, = an=3D d the truth is not in us&quot; &nbsp;&nbsp;The very point of the lesson is = t=3D hat we *are* fickle and sinful, just like that crowd, and while we are = Easte=3D r people, i.e., on this side of the Resurrection event, &nbsp;that does = not =3D change our sinful nature. &nbsp;<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;So there is still no worthy reason to walze our way through = or=3D around an observance which essentially has to do with our sin. = &nbsp;&nbsp;=3D The reality is, to pick up on the quotation above to which I respond, = &nbsp;=3D yes, we *do* change our tune at least at moments of convenience. = &nbsp;That'=3D s a major part of the human problem!! &nbsp;<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Cordially,<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Karl</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3069604627_977957_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:13:16 EDT     --part1_bd.d32ebf7.2802589c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   And yet, Karl, after about 6 years of working for excellence in a sea of mediocrity, I'm beginning to feel that people in our congregation are beginning to appreciate and even expect the excellence. Maybe they are beginning to see the difference.   Oh sure, some have always understood what I'm trying to do. And in fact, = the Staff/Parish Committee gave me a very nice raise in salary because they appreciate what I'm trying to do. But there are a host of folks, = including a staff member or 2, that want to negate all we've tried to do, in the sake = of being "more this or more that".   I have set out to show that you can have excellent music with spirit. = They don't need to be mutually exclusive. And, you don't have to have schlock = to reach peoples' hearts.   Is the Palms Schlock? Sure it is. But, it's one way of meeting my folks where they are and hopefully bringing them along. And plus, on our organ, = it sounds pretty darn good! <grin>   They have even grown to EXPECT an improvised interlude. Of course, I = didn't let them down today <big grin>   Peace to you all. Neil B   --part1_bd.d32ebf7.2802589c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>And yet, Karl, after = about 6 years of working for excellence in a sea of <BR>mediocrity, I'm beginning to feel that people in our congregation are <BR>beginning to appreciate and even expect the excellence. &nbsp;Maybe = they are <BR>beginning to see the difference. <BR> <BR>Oh sure, some have always understood what I'm trying to do. &nbsp;And = in fact, the <BR>Staff/Parish Committee gave me a very nice raise in salary because = they <BR>appreciate what I'm trying to do. &nbsp;But there are a host of folks, = including a <BR>staff member or 2, that want to negate all we've tried to do, in the = sake of <BR>being "more this or more that". <BR> <BR>I have set out to show that you can have excellent music with spirit. = &nbsp;They <BR>don't need to be mutually exclusive. &nbsp;And, you don't have to have = schlock to <BR>reach peoples' hearts. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Is the Palms Schlock? &nbsp;Sure it is. &nbsp;But, it's one way of = meeting my folks <BR>where they are and hopefully bringing them along. &nbsp;And plus, on = our organ, it <BR>sounds pretty darn good! &lt;grin&gt; <BR> <BR>They have even grown to EXPECT an improvised interlude. &nbsp;Of = course, I didn't <BR>let them down today &lt;big grin&gt; <BR> <BR>Peace to you all. <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_bd.d32ebf7.2802589c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:14:51 EDT     --part1_a7.d4d66ad.280258fb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Karl, you are so right. We are sinful. But as Christians, we can sing in =   spite of that because of what Jesus did on the cross.   Neil B   --part1_a7.d4d66ad.280258fb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Karl, you are so right. = &nbsp;We are sinful. &nbsp;But as Christians, we can sing in <BR>spite of that because of what Jesus did on the cross. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a7.d4d66ad.280258fb_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Good Friday - St. Matthew's, Costa Mesa CA USA (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 17:28:35 -0700   SOLEMN LITURGY OF THE LORD'S PASSION AND DEATH at 3 p.m.   No voluntaries   LITURGY OF THE WORD   Lesson - Isaiah 52:13-15, 53:1-12. Psalm 69 - Salvum me fac - Gregorian - Direct Tone Epistle - Hebrews 10:1ff Gradual - Christus factus est - Yon/Clark St. John Passion - recited - 3 readers and congregation Hymn - Stabat Mater dolorosa - Sarum plainsong   THE SOLEMN COLLECTS   no music, other than the Priest's chant   VENERATION OF THE CROSS   Hymn - Were You There? - Spiritual (as the procession gathers for the Creeping To The Cross) Antiphon - Ecce lignum Crucis - Gregorian/Clark (SSAATTBB response) The Reproaches - Gregorian/Vittoria   AT THE RETURN OF THE BLESSED SACRAMENT   Hymn - Vexilla regis - Gregorian/Dykes ("St. Cross" for alternate verses) Anthem - O Saviour of the World - Goss (if needed)   AT THE COMMUNION   Hymn - Crux fidelis - Gregorian/Palestrina Anthem - God So Loved The World - Stainer (if needed)   ************************************   Packed church ALWAYS ... we put the "Crux fidelis" at communion-time so we get to sing all of it.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: slightly off-topic: the duality of Palm Sunday From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 17:45:19 -0700   At one point in history, there were TWO Palm Sunday Masses ... a festive Mass in red vestments (for the Kingship of Christ) was celebrated in an outlying church; then the procession went to the cathedral or the principal church of the parish for the solemn Mass in purple vestments and the first reading of the Passion.   Until the 1950s, there was still a preface and Sanctus in the liturgy of the blessing of the palms ... that disappeared in the revisions of the 1950s; the red vestments and the additional Gospel reading are about all that's left of the now-vanished festal Mass.   I THINK even our Kalendar now allows red vestments for the entire Palm Sunday Mass, but we still change to purple after the "Ingrediente." That would seem to make the shift in mood more clear.   Some years we've done "The Palms" or "The Holy City" INSTEAD of an opening voluntary, but since we've taken to doing the blessing outside, I dropped both. I still do "The Holy City" on the First Sunday of Advent occasionally, since we still have the Gospel of the Triumphal Entry on that day.   We sing VERY subdued anthems on Palm Sunday, once the Passion has been read, and I don't play a closing voluntary.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: The Palms et al From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:44:22 EDT     --part1_80.961b8ca.28025fe6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/8/01 4:36:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JerryM8319@aol.com writes:     > I played The Palms and The Holy City for my Methodist congregation! > >   So did we, and we also did "Draw Nigh to Jerusalem" by David H. Williams. =   Yes the first two are old chestnuts, yes some consider that schmaltzy, but =   boy do people LOVE them! And when performed at a grand and broad enough tempo, they can come out to be rather elegant.   Scott Foppiano The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI   --part1_80.961b8ca.28025fe6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated = 4/8/01 4:36:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>JerryM8319@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I played The Palms = and The Holy City for my Methodist congregation! <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>So did we, and we also did "Draw Nigh to Jerusalem" by David H. = Williams. &nbsp; <BR>Yes the first two are old chestnuts, yes some consider that schmaltzy, = but <BR>boy do people LOVE them! &nbsp;And when performed at a grand and broad = enough <BR>tempo, they can come out to be rather elegant. <BR> <BR>Scott Foppiano <BR>The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI</FONT></HTML>   --part1_80.961b8ca.28025fe6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: The Palms PROTESTANT?!?!?! From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:47:27 EDT     --part1_74.95729f2.2802609f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I think not! The "Faure" that wrote "The Palms" was, like Gabriel, Roman Catholic. So, it has its roots in that tradition, but in French of = course. I believe the original title is "Les Rameaux" or something similar. My scores are at the church, probably already filed away (thank you Carol and =   Norine, my wonderful and very efficient librarians!) and we won't see them =   again until next Palm Sunday. We always do it as the "festive introit" = for lack of a better term.   Scott Foppiano The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI   --part1_74.95729f2.2802609f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I think not! &nbsp;The = "Faure" that wrote "The Palms" was, like Gabriel, Roman <BR>Catholic. &nbsp;So, it has its roots in that tradition, but in French = of course. &nbsp; <BR>I believe the original title is "Les Rameaux" or something similar. = &nbsp;My <BR>scores are at the church, probably already filed away (thank you Carol = and <BR>Norine, my wonderful and very efficient librarians!) and we won't see = them <BR>again until next Palm Sunday. &nbsp;We always do it as the "festive = introit" for <BR>lack of a better term. <BR> <BR>Scott Foppiano <BR>The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI</FONT></HTML>   --part1_74.95729f2.2802609f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:49:07 EDT   I've not scheduled that piece in over 10 years. My choir did a smashing = job with Hosanna to the Son of David, by Orlando Gibbons, this morning.   John A. Gambill Org/CHM Oak Cliff Lutheran Church Dallas, TX  
(back) Subject: Which Faure? From: "diaphone 64" <diaphone64@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 20:54:40 -0400   <html> <DIV> <P>According to the score that I have in from of me, J.B.Faure wrote = &quot;The Palms&quot;.</P> <P>It's even in the G. Schirmer Anthem as the original composer.</P> <P>Jason Comet</P> <P><BR><BR>&nbsp;</P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: ScottFop@aol.com <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: &quot;PipeChat&quot;<PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: The Palms PROTESTANT?!?!?! <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:47:27 EDT <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;I think not! The &quot;Faure&quot; that wrote &quot;The = Palms&quot; was, like Gabriel, Roman <DIV></DIV>&gt;Catholic. So, it has its roots in that tradition, but in = French of course. <DIV></DIV>&gt;I believe the original title is &quot;Les Rameaux&quot; or = something similar. My <DIV></DIV>&gt;scores are at the church, probably already filed away = (thank you Carol and <DIV></DIV>&gt;Norine, my wonderful and very efficient librarians!) and we = won't see them <DIV></DIV>&gt;again until next Palm Sunday. We always do it as the = &quot;festive introit&quot; for <DIV></DIV>&gt;lack of a better term. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;Scott Foppiano <DIV></DIV>&gt;The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI <DIV></DIV><br clear=3Dall><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at = <a = href=3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html>=