PipeChat Digest #2016 - Wednesday, April 11, 2001
 
Re: Interesting new Disney Hall organ X-Posted
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: first lady-person of the organ
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Mulbury, Fox and a Crozier chaser
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: first lady-person of the organ
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Disney Hall Disaster
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Re: Interesting new Disney Hall organ X-Posted
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
Re: first lady-person of the organ
  by <Orgnplayer@aol.com>
Easter preludes
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Easter preludes
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Easter preludes
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Disney Hall Disaster
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
The Palms
  by <Doppelflote8@aol.com>
Re: first lady-person of the organ
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
The Palms...
  by <Doppelflote8@aol.com>
Re: Interesting new Disney Hall organ X-Posted
  by "Ray Thursby" <raythursby@earthlink.net>
Re: The Palms
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: first lady-person of the organ
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: first lady-person of the organ
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Interesting new Disney Hall organ X-Posted From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:34:29 -0700   At 09:36 PM 4/10/2001 -0400, Steven wrote: >On the contrary, I am horrified by what I see and my initial >reaction was to call for immediate execution of the architect.<snip>   I'm quite sure that many "worker bees" at the LA Phil would lend you their =   firearms to do the job! Gehry's "fiddling" with the poor acoustics at the =   Hollywood Bowl over the years left the acoutical problems in even worse shape, and imparted Gehry's trademark "goofball" visual designs on the place. Of course, Gehry wasn't ashamed to extract a heavy fee from the County, not once, but TWICE! Of course, Gehry is socially well connected with the LA power structure under Riordan, thus giving him the "in" for = the "Wizzley" job, something Angelinos will come ot regret until it, like the acoustically perfect Philharmonic Auditorium Building downtown = (1901-1986), will be torn down to make way for something else. Of little consolation = is the fact that "acoustical engineering" was not in the hands of Gehry, but some Japanese engineer. With much experience with Japanese loudspeakers over the years, I can't say that this is necessarily a good thing, as = they seem to have little grasp over there about acoustic phenomena in general.   >Further, the fellow architects, organ designers and artists whose = opinions >I have sought thus far virtually all share my disdain.<snip>   Read my previous post. It's a stroke job for Eisner at Disney, nothing more! I'm not sure, but I don't think Gehry even maintains membership in the AIA! As for the organ, this is the hieght of "faddism". I doublt it will be heard much, as I'm pretty sure most touring recitalists will avoid =   it like that plague!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: first lady-person of the organ From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:42:27 -0700   At 11:33 AM 4/11/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Unfortunately, as organists, we are often taught not to like what is >popular and that what we don't like is to be considered wrong. Take >tracker action, f'rinstance.... or well-temperament. <snip>   ....both "WRONG" in this day an age, by any reasonable man's deduction....   ....but that's MY opinion! :-D   dB    
(back) Subject: Mulbury, Fox and a Crozier chaser From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:55:10 -0700   At 09:07 AM 4/11/2001 -0700, BuuD-by-the-BeacH wrote: >At the time, there were three organ faculty members at CCM: Wayne >Fisher, Roberta Gary, and David Mulbury.<snip>   Oh, here we go!   >Mulbury's students sat stone-faced through the whole thing, looking like >they'd stepped in doggie doo. Evidently he thrown what for him was a >temper tantrum in organ class, denouncing the whole business and saying >something to the effect that his professional reputation was permanently >sullied by appearing on the same bill as The Fox.<snip>   Mulbury's playing is/was, from my observations, QUITE sterile, although a good technician. I heard him once in recital, and have his Lyrichord recording of Sowerby's "Symphony in G", and in both instances, he seemed quite self-absorbed, dragging tempi out to incredibly dirge-like proportions in places where the music needed to move along to keep the audience along with it! His insufferable dragging-out of the "Symphony"'s =   third movement, a passacaglia, stands in extreme contrast to Catherine Crozier's rather sprightly interpretation. One scarcely believes them to be the same piece of music! Where Crozier whips the listener along to the =   final excitement of the coda, Mulbury anesthetizes them with lento at full =   organ, a sure-fire way to beat ANY audience into drooling submission.   >Fox went home, things settled back to more-or-less normal, we had a new >recital organ, and nobody was much the worse for wear, except for Dr. >Mulbury, who never quite recovered. At last report, he'd given up >teaching organ and was teaching music history.<snip>   Perhaps Dr. Mulbury, like many of us, realized he wasn't in the right business???   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: first lady-person of the organ From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:26:34 -0700   At 03:53 PM 4/11/2001 -0500, you wrote: >We've had a lot of discussion of Diane Bish's organ playing, but would >anyone care to say what they think of her organ compositions?<snip>   Geared to the "weekend" organist and directly at the church crowd. They are utilitarian church fare that works, but certainly nothing of enduring quality, although they seem towering indeed when placed next to the = typical Lorenz output!   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Disney Hall Disaster From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:42:14 EDT     --part1_7f.12e22830.280629b6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   God save us from that! I had my teeth knocked out when I was 15years old (playing ice hockey) and I have to say what was left inside my mouth = looked better than that! They can't be serious about putting that "thing" = together can they? It looks more like an arthritic squid (a vulgar one at that) or = a very hungry sea anemone (I think that's how it's spelled. If it ain't, = well, whatever.) reaching out for some barnacles or something. As a matter of fact, the hall itself leaves a whole bunch to be desired. For God's sakes =   please don't show this to Europeans. They still haven't stopped laughing = at us for electing "Shrub". This should drive sensible people to apoplexy. = Of course since we're speaking of THE MOUSE, this drives sensibility right = out the window. I won't go there! Then again, I don't go to disneyland = either. Come back Gulbranson, all is forgiven!!!!   Best to all Dennis R.   --part1_7f.12e22830.280629b6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>God save us from that! = &nbsp;I had my teeth knocked out when I was 15years old <BR>(playing ice hockey) and I have to say what was left inside my mouth = looked <BR>better than that! &nbsp;They can't be serious about putting that = "thing" together <BR>can they? &nbsp;It looks more like an arthritic squid (a vulgar one at = that) or a <BR>very hungry sea anemone (I think that's how it's spelled. &nbsp;If it = ain't, well, <BR>whatever.) &nbsp;reaching out for some barnacles or something. = &nbsp;As a matter of <BR>fact, the hall itself leaves a whole bunch to be desired. &nbsp;For = God's sakes <BR>please don't show this to Europeans. &nbsp;They still haven't stopped = laughing at <BR>us for electing "Shrub". &nbsp;This should drive sensible people to = apoplexy. &nbsp;Of <BR>course since we're speaking of THE MOUSE, this drives sensibility = right out <BR>the window. &nbsp;I won't go there! &nbsp;Then again, I don't go to = disneyland either. &nbsp; <BR>Come back Gulbranson, all is forgiven!!!! <BR> <BR>Best to all <BR>Dennis R. &nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7f.12e22830.280629b6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Interesting new Disney Hall organ X-Posted From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:00:36 -0400   At 09:36 PM 4/10/2001 -0400, Steven wrote: >It may also capture some of the >public's imagination, but will that do the organ any genuine good? Or = will >it continue the downward trend of the pipe organ's importance musically = by >sending a message that the organ cannot be taken seriously?   I sincerely hope you're joking....if you're serious, you must = feel miserable!   We've seen hundreds of serious years of prim, proper, and torturously....(searching for "publicly acceptable" word)...boring. I think by now it's fair to say the general public realizes pipe organs are eminently capable of raising their "noses" to heights rivalled only by the =   good folks at NASA. We get the picture...and it's about as enticing to = the "unwashed masses" as a dinner party with a firing squad and their inlaws.   The morning after the Disney organ debuts, "serious" organists worldwide won't suddenly find groucho glasses on their facade pipes, or honking foam clown noses on their console gadgets (though that might do some good). ;->     > After all, this >design "would you like fries with your concert hall?" strips the organ of = any >visual dignity and reduces the King of Instruments to the Clown of >Instruments.   May as well learn to laugh at yourself...there's no real power to =   be gained by trying to appear "dignified" 24/7. Life's about being able = to roll with punches gracefully while wiping lemon meringue off your forehead. :)     > It will be interesting to see, if like >the Stravinsky or the Seattle Flentrop, it survives the trials of time = and is >recognized as a true timeless work of art, or whether it will be seen as = a >fleeting and embarassing moment of fashion and like today's spring styles = or >hit rock band, vanishes quickly.   You'd be surprised how many people take up music (or a particular =   instrument) because of those "momentary" bands. Every once in a while, that subject comes up over on the Hammond list. More often than not, any given member can credit a "vanished" group or piece that would've made any =   "diginified" organist run screaming. So what? Decades later, these = people are still fiercely devoted to their aging instruments. That's what it's really all about, when it comes right down to it.   So what if some people think looks like french fries? It looks like Disney, and it does NOT look like a scary, overblown yawn-fest. I think it's a marvellous way of knocking down the silly pretentious = barriers and inviting children (and the young at heart) into our world. Let's face =   it...they're what stands between pipe organs and extinction in the long = term.   David said a mouthful over on the "first lady-person of the = organ" thread last night. I think it's just as applicable in this thread.   Waltzing off in Cinderella gown, Mickey ears, and clown shoes, Ad ;->    
(back) Subject: Re: first lady-person of the organ From: <Orgnplayer@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:09:30 EDT     --part1_80.98dc77f.2806301a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/11/01 2:29:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:     > We've had a lot of discussion of Diane Bish's organ playing, but would > >anyone care to say what they think of her organ compositions?<snip> > > Geared to the "weekend" organist and directly at the church crowd. They =   > are utilitarian church fare that works, but certainly nothing of = enduring > quality, although they seem towering indeed when placed next to the = typical > Lorenz output! > >   I agree. I play Diane's compositions often and always get favorable = responses from the congregation. Like her, they are flashy and bubbly, with some interesting rhythms. I also subscribe to "The Organist" and "Organ Portfolio" from Lorenz...is it just me, or are these compositions getting simpler and simpler? Lately, I can almost perfectly play everything at sight! "The Organ Portfolio" used to be a lot more challenging.   Douglas   --part1_80.98dc77f.2806301a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/11/01 2:29:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>desertbob@rglobal.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">We've had a lot of = discussion of Diane Bish's organ playing, but would <BR>&gt;anyone care to say what they think of her organ = compositions?&lt;snip&gt; <BR> <BR>Geared to the "weekend" organist and directly at the church crowd. = &nbsp;They <BR>are utilitarian church fare that works, but certainly nothing of = enduring <BR>quality, although they seem towering indeed when placed next to the = typical <BR>Lorenz output! <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>I agree. I play Diane's compositions often and always get favorable = responses <BR>from the congregation. &nbsp;Like her, they are flashy and bubbly, = with some <BR>interesting rhythms. &nbsp;I also subscribe to "The Organist" and = "Organ <BR>Portfolio" from Lorenz...is it just me, or are these compositions = getting <BR>simpler and simpler? &nbsp;Lately, I can almost perfectly play = everything at <BR>sight! &nbsp;"The Organ Portfolio" used to be a lot more challenging. <BR> <BR>Douglas</FONT></HTML>   --part1_80.98dc77f.2806301a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Easter preludes From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:34:05 -0400   What are you ladies and gentlemen playing for the Easter Sunday prelude? I need some ideas, quick! I'd play Howells' Sarabande for Easter but nobody in the pews would understand its Easter significance. Same for the Guilmant thing on O Filii et Filiae, since we don't sing that as an Easter hymn chez nous. Last year I did a movement from the Widor Symphonie Romane but no one grasped its significance either, "Haec dies" not being sung very often in our church. I'm thinking of Emma Lou Diemer's new arrangement of the Easter Hymn for the offertory and they will be expecting the Widor Toccata in F for the postlude, but I can't seem to choose a prelude. Maybe the Carillon de Westminster, starting it really soft.   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu  
(back) Subject: Re: Easter preludes From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:24:18 -0500   Well, because we are being tacky again this week and doing the Exsultet at the principal service, I wasn't doing one. However, I can't get through Easter Sunday without "Christ Lag in Todesbanden" from Orgelbuchlein, so I begged to do a prelude, short as it is.   I put the "Jig" Fugue in the bulletin as the postlude, but immediately = after it went to print I really didn't want to do it. Woman's prerogative and = all that. I may do the Dubois instead - they won't know the difference!   Glenda Sutton        
(back) Subject: Re: Easter preludes From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:26:05 -0700 (PDT)   We will have only a very brief improvised prelude on Easter, because we = have to fit 3 choirs in the service, but I am playing the Mulet Carillon-Sortie for the postlude.   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Disney Hall Disaster From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:28:10 -0400   There has been more discussion, talk, conjecture, chatter, disapproval and so-on about the Disney organ than any other new organ in recent history on this list.   I guess the case design is working, no?   That's good marketing. -- noel jones, aago ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ moderator, rodgers organ users group www.frogmusic.com/rodgers.html  
(back) Subject: The Palms From: <Doppelflote8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:13:53 EDT     --part1_7e.13ab3d86.28065b51_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   God be praised, we got rid of it.   Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lacnaster PA   I thought we had.....but traditions live on ad nauseum. There wasnt a dry pew in the house after that.   Chuckling, Alan   --part1_7e.13ab3d86.28065b51_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial Black" LANG=3D"0">God be = praised, we got rid of it. <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Cordially, <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Karl E. Moyer <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lacnaster PA <BR> <BR>I thought we had.....but traditions live on ad nauseum. <BR>There wasnt a dry pew in the house after that. <BR> <BR>Chuckling, <BR>Alan</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7e.13ab3d86.28065b51_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: first lady-person of the organ From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:17:03 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C0C2C4.5FA4FA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Well, now, Mike, I would faint dead away if Gillian Weir played the =3D Stars and Stripes Forever. When it comes to the superstars, I have a =3D certain expectation regarding repertoire which differs markedly from my = =3D ideas of interesting programs from other performers. =3D20   I think one in either category needs to pick music that tantalizes the =3D senses and stimulates the audience to reach a higher plane. =3D Entertainment is part of that, and we mustn't for a moment lose sight of = =3D who our audience is and plan for it. There has to be a happy medium and = =3D a careful balance between the brilliantly esoteric and the little =3D lollipops (and the Grand Dame does both, by the way).   Regarding speaking to the audience as entertainment, I've been to =3D performances where the organist would have been much better off saying =3D nothing. Again there is a fine line between education and =3D condescension, and an audience picks it up quicker than the one doing =3D the talking. But an audience will forgive many a musical faux pas [or =3D is that pais de deux? or maybe pate foie de grasse? or omelette du =3D fromage? God, I'm speaking French (or perhaps not) - someone shoot me, = =3D quick!] if the recitalist that can humanize himself/herself with quick =3D anecdotal oral program notes.   Glenda Sutton     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C0C2C4.5FA4FA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well, now, Mike, I would faint dead = =3D away if Gillian=3D20 Weir played the Stars and Stripes Forever.&nbsp; When it comes to the=3D20 superstars, I have a certain expectation regarding repertoire&nbsp;which = =3D differs=3D20 markedly from my ideas of interesting programs from other=3D20 performers.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think one in either category needs = to =3D pick music=3D20 that tantalizes the senses and stimulates the audience to reach a higher = =3D   plane.&nbsp; Entertainment is part of that, and we mustn't for a moment = =3D lose=3D20 sight of who our audience is and plan for&nbsp;it.&nbsp; There has to be = =3D a happy=3D20 medium and a careful balance between the brilliantly esoteric and the =3D little=3D20 lollipops (and the Grand Dame does both, by the way).</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Regarding speaking to the audience = as=3D20 entertainment, I've been to performances where the organist would have =3D been much=3D20 better off&nbsp;saying nothing.&nbsp; Again there is a fine line between = =3D   education and condescension, and an audience picks it up quicker than =3D the one=3D20 doing the talking.&nbsp; But an audience will forgive many a musical =3D faux pas=3D20 [or is that pais de deux?&nbsp; or maybe pate foie de grasse? or =3D omelette du=3D20 fromage?&nbsp; God, I'm speaking French (or perhaps not) - someone shoot = =3D me,=3D20 quick!] if the recitalist that can humanize himself/herself with quick =3D anecdotal=3D20 oral program notes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Glenda Sutton</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C0C2C4.5FA4FA80--    
(back) Subject: The Palms... From: <Doppelflote8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:36:02 EDT     --part1_a3.143b048c.28066082_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   We should all meet at a Piano Bar, have a few drinks and then chime in = with a rousing rendition.   It would bring the house down!   -Alan   --part1_a3.143b048c.28066082_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial Black" LANG=3D"0">We should = all meet at a Piano Bar, have a few drinks and then chime in with a <BR>rousing rendition. <BR> <BR>It would bring the house down! <BR> <BR>-Alan</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a3.143b048c.28066082_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Interesting new Disney Hall organ X-Posted From: "Ray Thursby" <raythursby@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:31:44 -0700   DeserTBoB said everything I wanted to say about LA politics/society and = the LA Times in general, and Frank Gehry, Disney and the "organ" to be = installed there in particular...only he was far more polite about it than I'd have been!   Ray Thursby    
(back) Subject: Re: The Palms From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:46:57 EDT     --part1_2f.139f3e5f.28067121_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     > Does a recording exist of this song?   I certainly hope NOT. <grin>   Neil B.     --part1_2f.139f3e5f.28067121_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Does a recording = exist of this song?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> I certainly hope NOT. &nbsp;&lt;grin&gt; <BR> <BR>Neil B. <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_2f.139f3e5f.28067121_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: first lady-person of the organ From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:55:27 EDT     --part1_86.9955f33.2806731f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/11/01 9:40:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Orgnplayer@aol.com writes:     > In a message dated 4/11/01 9:25:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > wdbabcock@msn.com writes: > > > >> Diane Bish does not play by the "rules." She does her own thing the =   >> way she wants to do it, and, the most irritating part of it, she's made = a >> > > So we should criticize her for being original and creative, and being = able > to > make a lot of money for it? Are you just jealous that you didn't think = of > an > organ music TV series first?? > >   The question was "why do people criticize" her Bishness! I only offer what I consider an answer, from my experience. I don't believe I have = ever criticised her. Please check the archives.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_86.9955f33.2806731f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/11/01 9:40:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>Orgnplayer@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In a message dated = 4/11/01 9:25:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>wdbabcock@msn.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Diane Bish does = not play by the "rules." &nbsp;&nbsp;She does her own thing the <BR>way she wants to do it, and, the most irritating part of it, she's = made a <BR>bundle o' dough along the way. </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>So we should criticize her for being original and creative, and being = able <BR>to <BR>make a lot of money for it? &nbsp;Are you just jealous that you didn't = think of <BR>an <BR>organ music TV series first?? <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>The question was "why do people criticize" her Bishness! = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I only offer <BR>what I consider an answer, from my experience. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I = don't believe I have ever <BR>criticised her. &nbsp;Please check the archives. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_86.9955f33.2806731f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: first lady-person of the organ From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:17:55 EDT     --part1_a0.12d2db79.28067863_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/11/01 3:10:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Orgnplayer@aol.com writes:     > Lately, I can almost perfectly play everything at > sight! "The Organ Portfolio" used to be a lot more challenging. > >   Perhaps you're just getting better. Mahaps it's time to buy some real music!! ;-) Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_a0.12d2db79.28067863_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/11/01 3:10:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>Orgnplayer@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Lately, I can = almost perfectly play everything at <BR>sight! &nbsp;"The Organ Portfolio" used to be a lot more challenging. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Perhaps you're just getting better. &nbsp;Mahaps it's time to buy some = real <BR>music!! ;-) <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a0.12d2db79.28067863_boundary--