PipeChat Digest #2023 - Saturday, April 14, 2001
 
RE: Disney Organ's Not THAT Bad, it's WORSE
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
Disney Organ & OHS
  by "William T. Van Pelt III" <wvanpelt@erols.com>
Re: Disney Organ & OHS
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
RE: Disney Organ's Not THAT Bad, it's WORSE
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Disney's not THAT bad!  It's WORSE!
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Cheap CDs
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Peragallo
  by "John Whitney" <jswhit3@bellsouth.net>
Re: Peragallo
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Disney Organ & OHS
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: Cheap CDs
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Disney Organ's Not THAT Bad, it's WORSE
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Disney Organ's Not THAT Bad, it's WORSE From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:29:45 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0002_01C0C460.DC46B5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     It looks like a bomb hit it. I think it's pretty hideous. Who cares = what it sounds like if one can't stomach LOOKING at it???   [Mike S. ]   I like to think of myself as open-minded, but I feel this way too. But, I'm morbid enough to want to hear it, and even wish to try it out just to see what it is like. I wonder how many things the organist could bump his or her head on getting to the console. You would think they'd want a Mickey Mouse shaped facade. :-)   Disney's footing the bill, right? God knows they've got more than = enough money to spend on stuff like this. Remember, these are the folks = obssessed with copyright. They pushed through the "Mickey Mouse" bill, which = extends copyright protection, meaning we will have to wait another 20 years or so before anymore music comes out into the public domain.   An anecdote: A girl I went to college with had a Mickey Mouse tattoo on her ankle. She went into a Disney Store, and was acosted by store = security. They took her back to the office, and wanted to know where she got her tattoo, the address of the place, how much it cost, etc. She said she was made to feel like a criminal.   Best wishes, Mike       ------=3D_NextPart_000_0002_01C0C460.DC46B5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT size=3D3D2>It looks like a bomb hit = it. =3D &nbsp;I think=3D20 it's pretty hideous. &nbsp;Who cares what it <BR>sounds like if one =3D can't=3D20 stomach LOOKING at it??? <BR><BR><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff></FONT><FONT = =3D size=3D3D2><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial><SPAN class=3D3D460132001-14042001>[Mike S.=3D20 ]&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D460132001-14042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbs= =3D p;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D460132001-14042001>I like to think of myself as open-minded, = =3D but I feel=3D20 this way too.&nbsp; But, I'm morbid enough to want to hear it, and =3D even wish=3D20 to try it out just to see what it is like.&nbsp; I wonder how many =3D things the=3D20 organist could bump his or her head on getting to the console.&nbsp; = =3D You=3D20 would think they'd want a Mickey Mouse shaped facade.&nbsp;=3D20 :-)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D460132001-14042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbs= =3D p;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D460132001-14042001>Disney's footing the bill, right?&nbsp; God = =3D knows=3D20 they've got more than enough money to spend on stuff like = this.&nbsp;=3D20 Remember, these are the folks obssessed with copyright.&nbsp; They =3D pushed=3D20 through the "Mickey Mouse" bill, which extends copyright protection, =3D meaning=3D20 we will have to wait another 20 years or so before anymore music comes = =3D out=3D20 into the public domain.&nbsp; =3D </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D460132001-14042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbs= =3D p;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D460132001-14042001>An anecdote:&nbsp; A girl I went to college = =3D with had=3D20 a Mickey Mouse tattoo on her ankle.&nbsp; She went into a Disney =3D Store, and=3D20 was acosted by store security.&nbsp; They took her back to the office, = =3D and=3D20 wanted to know where she got her tattoo, the address of the place, how = =3D much it=3D20 cost, etc.&nbsp; She said she was made to feel like a = criminal.&nbsp;=3D20 </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D460132001-14042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbs= =3D p;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D460132001-14042001>Best=3D20 wishes,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D460132001-14042001>Mike</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>= =3D </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D460132001-14042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbs= =3D p;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D3D#0000a0 = face=3D3D"Comic =3D Sans MS"=3D20 lang=3D3D0 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT"><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff><FONT = size=3D3D2><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><SPAN=3D20 =3D class=3D3D460132001-14042001></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT= =3D ></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0002_01C0C460.DC46B5E0--    
(back) Subject: Disney Organ & OHS From: "William T. Van Pelt III" <wvanpelt@erols.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:48:15 -0400   I am so glad that I ran in The Tracker that picture of the model of the Disney organ. I haven't seen such a stir caused by a stodgy old organ magazine written for "purists" since two issues previous, when Jonathan Ambrosino wrote his now very well known Opinion regarding OHS Citations and the organs at St. Mark's, Philadelphia; the Cathedral of St. John-in the Wilderness, Denver; and the Hook at St. Joseph's Cathedral in Buffalo.   Then, there was even a little ripple of interest among these discussants regarding the issue betwixt the two just mentioned, especially regarding good articles about Kilgen and Hinners.   Those of you who aren't OHS members: how about joining? You get four issues of the magazine plus the annual Organ Handbook, plus the good fuzzy feeling for helping to support OHS. You can join online at the OTHER website of OHS, http://www.organsociety.org When you get there, click on "About OHS," then on "Join the Ranks." Regular membership is $35; those 25 or younger pay $19; those 65 or greater pay $29.   Thanks.   Bill  
(back) Subject: Re: Disney Organ & OHS From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:05:05 -0500   Good Plug!!! Roy   "William T. Van Pelt III" wrote:   > I am so glad that I ran in The Tracker that picture of the model of the > Disney organ. I haven't seen such a stir caused by a stodgy old organ > magazine written for "purists" since two issues previous, when Jonathan > Ambrosino wrote his now very well known Opinion regarding OHS Citations > and the organs at St. Mark's, Philadelphia; the Cathedral of St. John-in > the Wilderness, Denver; and the Hook at St. Joseph's Cathedral in > Buffalo. > > Then, there was even a little ripple of interest among these discussants > regarding the issue betwixt the two just mentioned, especially regarding > good articles about Kilgen and Hinners. > > Those of you who aren't OHS members: how about joining? You get four > issues of the magazine plus the annual Organ Handbook, plus the good > fuzzy feeling for helping to support OHS. You can join online at the > OTHER website of OHS, http://www.organsociety.org When you get there, > click on "About OHS," then on "Join the Ranks." Regular membership is > $35; those 25 or younger pay $19; those 65 or greater pay $29. > > Thanks. > > Bill > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Disney Organ's Not THAT Bad, it's WORSE From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 19:38:37 -0700   At 09:29 PM 4/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: She went into a Disney Store, and was acosted by store security. They = took her back to the office, and wanted to know where she got her tattoo, the address of the place, how much it cost, etc. She said she was made to = feel like a criminal. <snip>   Contrary to the belief of many, this is now the "real Wizzley", run by sleazeball CEO Michael Eisner. There's nothing left, really, of the culture that "Dalt Wizzley" himself created. Now, it's all dollars and cents. Eisner's history in Hollywood is well known to anyone around town, =   and is probably one of the industry best liars.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Disney's not THAT bad! It's WORSE! From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:50:59 -0500   There was quite a bit of discussion of the Disney facade on another list I belong to a some months ago when a sketch had appeared in the New York = Times. Most of the comments were similar to those on this list. While I would certainly agree that it is very unconventional, I personally welcome it as = a "breath of fresh air" in organ case design. It is certainly a design that = one would expect to be a "one off" instrument, with few if any derivative = designs in other organs. In this respect I would liken it to the "Hand of God" = organ case that was done some years ago in France. But please, when someone has finally managed to produce an organ case design that is genuinely original = and creative, please don't knock it.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Cheap CDs From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:14:26 EDT   In a message dated 4/13/01 5:15:45 PM Central Daylight Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << Actually, I did find this wonderful recording of the 8 Wee Ones. As = fate would have it, it's on a TAPE, unlabeled. >>   8 Wee Ones? Is that a new boy band?- shouldn't be too hard to identify. = But enough of that new stuff, tell us who recorded the Bach before we have a mutiny on our hands!   :::stern look:::   Mandy ;o)  
(back) Subject: Peragallo From: "John Whitney" <jswhit3@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:07:29 -0400   I am considering Peragallo for a new residential organ for my music room. = I understand that they are a regional builder, with installations primarily in the Northeast. I very much like the sound of their instruments - very "Frenchy". Has anyone had recent experience with them who can give me any advice on the quality of their work for the money? Anything else I should know about them would be appreciated.   Thanks in advance for any input.   John Whitney Atlanta, GA    
(back) Subject: Re: Peragallo From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:17:17 EDT     --part1_64.d041aa3.2809294d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Having played a Paragallo at a previous position, I can say, while I like = the Paragallos as people, I don't care for their instruments.   For a residence instrument, I think they would be ok.   I do think, though, they have some of the prettiest flute stops.   But usually the ensemble just isn't!!   My two pfennig worth   Neil B   --part1_64.d041aa3.2809294d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Having played a = Paragallo at a previous position, I can say, while I like the <BR>Paragallos as people, I don't care for their instruments. <BR> <BR>For a residence instrument, I think they would be ok. &nbsp; <BR> <BR> I do think, though, they have some of the prettiest flute stops. <BR> <BR>But usually the ensemble just isn't!! <BR> <BR>My two pfennig worth <BR> <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_64.d041aa3.2809294d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Disney Organ & OHS From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 01:20:55 EDT   In a message dated 4/13/01 9:47:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wvanpelt@erols.com writes:   << Those of you who aren't OHS members: how about joining? You get four issues of the magazine plus the annual Organ Handbook, plus the good fuzzy feeling for helping to support OHS >>   I have tried repeatedly to join the OHS with no sucess,. I curate several historic organs. They have chosen to ignore me. How 'bout that? I don't = think Allen or Rodges would ignore me. Several times I have heard organists say =   "Why don't you get rid of this "AWFUL OLD THING" and get a nice new = Allen?" Located in the wealth belt of central N.J., I have a good connection with Freehold Cartage ( An average 2m and pedal will half fill a standard dumpster) With an off the shelf model electronic needing no maintainece to =   replace. Hmm... a matter worth persuing. No wood shop, no voicing, just = plug it in!!!! I'm thinking about it. The only problem is the lead pipes are considered "toxic waste" Perhaps I can get the OHS to take them off my = hands for free.   Out there, flailing in the wind alone:   Alan B    
(back) Subject: Re: Cheap CDs From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 01:30:27 -0400       AMADPoet@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/13/01 5:15:45 PM Central Daylight Time, > Cremona502@cs.com writes: > > << Actually, I did find this wonderful recording of the 8 Wee Ones. As = fate > would have it, it's on a TAPE, unlabeled. >> > > 8 Wee Ones? Is that a new boy band?- shouldn't be too hard to identify. = But > enough of that new stuff, tell us who recorded the Bach before we have a > mutiny on our hands! > > :::stern look::: > > Mandy ;o)   It was Bruce Cornelly who did it on the limited edition 'Gainsville = Label'. They were "Perfect", "Definitive", and "Ultimate".. Alas! they are lost, but the 'brucer' still remains..   ...to terrorize in North Carolina in late June..   "::stern look:::"   I'm not into that kind of kinky stuff myself, but you have every right to do your :::stern look:::   Enjoy it! and revel in the possibilities!   Have Fun with it!     Stan Lowkis Massachusetts  
(back) Subject: Re: Disney Organ's Not THAT Bad, it's WORSE From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 02:23:05 -0400       Bob Scarborough wrote: > > At 09:29 PM 4/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: > She went into a Disney Store, and was acosted by store security. They = took > her back to the office, and wanted to know where she got her tattoo, the > address of the place, how much it cost, etc. She said she was made to = feel > like a criminal. <snip> > > Contrary to the belief of many, this is now the "real Wizzley", run by > sleazeball CEO Michael Eisner. There's nothing left, really, of the > culture that "Dalt Wizzley" himself created. Now, it's all dollars and > cents. Eisner's history in Hollywood is well known to anyone around = town, > and is probably one of the industry best liars. > > dB >   Thank you for that special information.   The entire Disney Organization and Assets will be destroyed. We have Mickey Mouse in custody already. As we know, Minnie has not been well... lately.... Logical..   In fact.. Some are saying that she's been f**k'in Goofy , which has caused much concern in the tabloids, but Mickey is still a mouse, albeit a very, very rich one.   But until the last rodent is dead..   The Wurlitzer will Play On!     Desertbob, I agree with you about the corporate ignorance that these managerial morons have generated. At least, the worst that can happen on a corporate level - is bankruptcy..   On a Governmental Level, these morons could destroy Our Country.   But. ...Checks and Balances, it always works.   Ultimately..   KEEP 'em ACCOUNTABLE! It's THEIR Job, not ours. WE are the Government. We can fire whomever we want!   Start making a list of the fires and the new hires..   Hey! Any recordings being made on the El Capitan Wurlitzer?     Stan Lowkis (Carrying a clipboard, and taking down names)   HAPPY EASTER EVERYBODY!