PipeChat Digest #2025 - Sunday, April 15, 2001
 
RE: "Chatty" recitalists
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Disney's not THAT bad!  It's WORSE!
  by "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net>
Re: Joining OHS
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Easter piece/greetings from Montreal
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: "Chatty" recitalists
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Easter piece/greetings from Montreal
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Blower oil
  by <GHamil9709@aol.com>
Easter music list
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
My List of Music for Easter Sunday
  by "Jerald Marshall" <marshallduet@ameritech.net>
RE: "Chatty" recitalists
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
joining this and that
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: joining the AGO Orange County Chapter
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: joining this and that
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: joining this and that
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: joining this and that
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: "Chatty" recitalists From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:35:47 -0500   I'm prepared for a variety of presentation styles, from the traditional = that Bob describes to the "chatty." A happy medium, in my experience, is a recital that opens wordlessly -- thus allowing the assembled audience its private buildup -- but features brief, audible, and enlightening comments from the artist between sections of the program, but not between = individual pieces that comprise the sections. Felix Hell accomplishes this style of presentation most graciously. On the other hand, at Olivier Latry's = recent non-speaking recital here, his final gesture "said it all"; with the approving crowd on its feet, he swept his hands upwards toward the organ = and glowed modestly. Presumably in French.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Bob Scarborough [mailto:desertbob@rglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 2:25 PM To: PipeChat Subject: "Chatty" recitalists     At 02:48 PM 4/14/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Mr. Wilson's program selection was most entertaining, and his >remarks to the audience before each selection gave him a very friendly >presence, and gave us guidance for what to expect from each piece.<snip>   Thanks for the review; it is most welcomed, as are any that are posted.   However, this opens a new area for discussion, that of the "chatty" recitalist. I was pretty much taught to follow the example of concert pianists of my time, who never spoke, except perhaps to the press after a performance. One would come in, take an initial bow to (hopefully) welcoming applause, and then head to the console and "do one's stuff", and =   hopefully get applause afterwards, to which an encore would be provided, = IF one didn't feel needles from disapproving eyes in the audience. Now, it seems that we've come from a brief statement at the head end of a recital to being lrather ike theater organists, who seem wont to "work the crowd" in between selections. I note Dame Weir took some heat from someone on = the list for having this rather aloof posture, but I find it quite dignified and proper. Although I'm trained in public speaking and have no animus towards speaking to the crowd, I find the current trend rather = undignified, preferring instead to author an informative recital program headed out at the door. Of course, my opinion is moot, since I haven't "recitaled" in years. Opinions?   dB     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Disney's not THAT bad! It's WORSE! From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:46:31 +0100       Luther Melby wrote: > > > It seems to me it would be 'gone with the wind.' > Have you been listening to some of Desert Bob's wav files?   Cheers,   Colin.  
(back) Subject: Re: Joining OHS From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:39:28 -0400   > For the record, one may join OHS trouble-free by writing a check for $35 > and dropping it in the snail-mail to OHS, Box 26811, Richmond VA 23261. > If you're 25 years of age or fewer, send $19. If you're 65 or greater, > send $29. Or, send more if you like!   Or you could go to the web page and sign up on line. No muss, no fuss.   http://www.organsociety.org/html/about/member_form.html   Cheers, TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Easter piece/greetings from Montreal From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:16:51 EDT   If I have answered the question previously, please forgive the repetition. = I would consider an ideal Easter piece (Prelude) to be "Der Heiland ist = erstanden" (The Saviour is Risen) by Franz Schmidt. It's about 12 minutes long, and extremely effective. Alas for the intimidated: it calls for a level of technique far beyond the = ordinary. Plus it requires an organ with good 8- and 4-foot reeds in the = Pedal.   Otherwise, the Easter pieces from the Bach Orgelbuchlein are always useful = and effective.   Greetings from Montreal. What a fantastic place to be for Easter (Paques = ici!) Yesterday, I attended the solemn Good Friday ceremonies at = l'Oratoire St. Joseph; and tonight I will return there for the Solemn = Vigil of Easter. Followed by the the great celebration of the Easter High = Mass on Sunday. (That's more churchgoing than I usually do in New York in = 6 months!)   Few American organists (or Canadian organists, for that matter) can really = have any conception of the splendor and magnificence of the ceremonies at = l'Oratoire St. Joseph (St. Joseph's Oratory). Somewhat akin to what the = ceremonies at the Vatican were like, back in the 1950s and earlier. The = magnificent 100-voice all-male choir, seated behind the immense high altar = in one direction, and the extraordinary Beckerath organ in the organ loft = in the other direction.   A congregation of thousands was present for the Good Friday celebration. = The Passion was sung in French, with the choir singing the responses of = the multitude to a polyphonic setting. (The program did not name the = composer.) The organ was subdued for this occasion, as it properly should = be --- simply accompanying the responses intended for cantor and = congregation. The titulaire performed a Bach Chorale Prelude at the end = --- the one based on O Sacred Head Now Wounded.   At the point in the ceremony where the prayers for all and sundry were = recited (e.g., prayer for the Jews, for those who do not believe in God, = etc.): the huge crucifix behind the high altar (and in front of the = choir) became illuminated, in what was a very effective touch. I have = said previously that this in not my favorite religious symbol; but one = could not but be moved on this occasion by this striking gesture.   Tonight and tomorrow, the great organ will peal forth in all its glory. = Particularly thrilling is the great organ fanfare which follows the = reading of the Gospel, as the Gospel is held up on high for all to see. = So that all present know that what has just been read is of great import!   The titulaire, Raymond Daveluy, will give his usual Sunday afternoon = recital at 3 p.m., playing the Bach Prelude and Fugue in B Minor, and the = Franck Chorale No. 1, among other things. Old stand-bys for him.   Easter Monday is a holiday in Quebec, where there is no such thing as a = court-ordered separation of Church and State. But the big department = stores will all be open for a big sale, and should be inundated with = shoppers.   I return to New York on Tuesday (rather reluctantly), on the scenic (if = very slow) Adirondack train.   Arthur LaMirande  
(back) Subject: Re: "Chatty" recitalists From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:41:24 EDT     --part1_90.130dbfc6.280a1e04_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   For my recitals, I have found that a good blend of "chat" and hopefully = great playing help the audience enjoy the concert more. At our church, we try = to employ a video system so the folks can see what's going on.   I let the music do the dignified stuff, and relax a little between works. = It works for me, not saying everyone should do that.   Neil B   --part1_90.130dbfc6.280a1e04_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>For my recitals, I have = found that a good blend of "chat" and hopefully great <BR>playing help the audience enjoy the concert more. &nbsp;At our church, = we try to <BR>employ a video system so the folks can see what's going on. <BR> <BR>I let the music do the dignified stuff, and relax a little between = works. &nbsp;It <BR>works for me, not saying everyone should do that. <BR> <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_90.130dbfc6.280a1e04_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Easter piece/greetings from Montreal From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:49:24 EDT     --part1_15.12aece57.280a1fe4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   If I played a piece 12 minutes long, the folks would be home and eating dinner by the time I was finished!! <grin>   I'm letting my handbell choir shine tomorrow. They deserve it, they sound =   great, and I'll do my shining on the hymns.   Peace Neil B   --part1_15.12aece57.280a1fe4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>If I played a piece 12 = minutes long, the folks would be home and eating <BR>dinner by the time I was finished!! &lt;grin&gt; <BR> <BR>I'm letting my handbell choir shine tomorrow. &nbsp;They deserve it, = they sound <BR>great, and I'll do my shining on the hymns. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Peace <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_15.12aece57.280a1fe4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Blower oil From: <GHamil9709@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:52:53 EDT   In a message dated 4/14/2001 10:13:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, conwayb@sympatico.ca writes:   << Keeping on to organ matters, I reckon that any light machine oil would = be OK for an organ blower's bearings, - just don't oil it too often! The "Oily Boid" gets the worm! Bob Conway >> I think that is the reverse. It is the EARL WORM that gets eaten. Gene Hamilton  
(back) Subject: Easter music list From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 18:55:34 -0500   Our first Easter with the newly installed M=F6ller. I finally have it playing on all 13 ranks. It isn't finished quite yet. Some detail work to do.   My youngest sister is organist this Sunday (my next to youngest sister alternates with her )   So,,,,,( with no contemporary songs, this Sunday) I am looking forward to Easter Sunday morning.   Zion-Sarpsborg Lutheran Church, Dalton, MN   Prelude; (most of the following, if not all) Glorious Things of Thee are Spoken, Haydn Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring, Bach I Know That My Redeemer Liveth, Handel Largo, Handel Tollite Hostias, Saint-Saens Panis Angelicus, Franck   Congregational Hymns; Low in the Grave He Lay Christ the Lord is Risen Today Thine is the Glory   Postlude; Trumpets and Horns, Handel   Luther lmelby@prtel.com    
(back) Subject: My List of Music for Easter Sunday From: "Jerald Marshall" <marshallduet@ameritech.net> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:44:44 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C52C.1EA470A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Prelude: Toccata on "Christ the Lord is Risen Today" - D. Bish   Choir Introit: "Alleluia" (Orthodox) - John Tavener   Offertory: "Morning Has Broken"- Trad.   Choir Anthem: "Crowned with Glory"- Thomas Kelly/Robert Leaf   Postlude: "Toccata" #5- C.M. Widor   Hymns:   "Christ the Lord is Risen Today" No. 302 (United Methodist Hymnal) "The Gloria Patri" "He Lives" No. 310 (UMH) "Up From the Grave He Arose" No. 322 (UMH)   Happy Easter to all!   Jerald Marshall Organist & Choir United Methodist Church Painesville, Ohio   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C52C.1EA470A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Prelude:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Toccata on "Christ the Lord is Risen = =3D Today"=3D20 -&nbsp;D. Bish</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Choir Introit:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"Alleluia" (Orthodox) = -&nbsp;John=3D20 Tavener</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Offertory:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"Morning Has Broken"- =3D Trad.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Choir Anthem:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"Crowned with Glory"- Thomas =3D Kelly/Robert=3D20 Leaf</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Postlude:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"Toccata" #5- C.M. Widor</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hymns:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"Christ the Lord is Risen Today" No. = =3D 302 (United=3D20 Methodist Hymnal)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"The Gloria Patri"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"He Lives" No. 310 (UMH)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"Up From the Grave He Arose" No. = 322=3D20 (UMH)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Happy Easter to all!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Jerald Marshall</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Organist &amp; Choir</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>United Methodist Church</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Painesville, =3D Ohio</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0010_01C0C52C.1EA470A0--    
(back) Subject: RE: "Chatty" recitalists From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT)   I attended a recital by Gillian Weir in which she spoke extensively to the audience between almost every piece.   Virgil Fox spoke all the time.   Of course, in Felix Hell's case, people thinks it's sweet and cute to see a kid speak during his/her recital.         --- "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> wrote: > I'm prepared for a variety of presentation styles, > from the traditional that > Bob describes to the "chatty." A happy medium, in > my experience, is a > recital that opens wordlessly -- thus allowing the > assembled audience its > private buildup -- but features brief, audible, and > enlightening comments > from the artist between sections of the program, but > not between individual > pieces that comprise the sections. Felix Hell > accomplishes this style of > presentation most graciously. On the other hand, at > Olivier Latry's recent > non-speaking recital here, his final gesture "said > it all"; with the > approving crowd on its feet, he swept his hands > upwards toward the organ and > glowed modestly. Presumably in French. > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Scarborough [mailto:desertbob@rglobal.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 2:25 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: "Chatty" recitalists > > > At 02:48 PM 4/14/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >Mr. Wilson's program selection was most > entertaining, and his > >remarks to the audience before each selection gave > him a very friendly > >presence, and gave us guidance for what to expect > from each piece.<snip> > > Thanks for the review; it is most welcomed, as are > any that are posted. > > However, this opens a new area for discussion, that > of the "chatty" > recitalist. I was pretty much taught to follow the > example of concert > pianists of my time, who never spoke, except perhaps > to the press after a > performance. One would come in, take an initial bow > to (hopefully) > welcoming applause, and then head to the console and > "do one's stuff", and > hopefully get applause afterwards, to which an > encore would be provided, IF > one didn't feel needles from disapproving eyes in > the audience. Now, it > seems that we've come from a brief statement at the > head end of a recital > to being lrather ike theater organists, who seem > wont to "work the crowd" > in between selections. I note Dame Weir took some > heat from someone on the > list for having this rather aloof posture, but I > find it quite dignified > and proper. Although I'm trained in public speaking > and have no animus > towards speaking to the crowd, I find the current > trend rather undignified, > preferring instead to author an informative recital > program headed out at > the door. Of course, my opinion is moot, since I > haven't "recitaled" in > years. Opinions? > > dB > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: joining this and that From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 22:45:21 -0700   In recent years, I have tried unsuccessfully to join THREE California AGO chapters: Inland Empire (Riverside/San Bernardino), Palm Springs/Cochella Valley (or whatever it's called), and Orange County. In each case, I have written to the Secretary and asked for the blanks. In each case, none were forthcoming.   Oh, I know I could write to headquarters and do it, but if the individual chapters can't be bothered, why should I?   Cheers,   Bud  
(back) Subject: Re: joining the AGO Orange County Chapter From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 02:51:45 EDT   Bud:   It's easy to get into Orange County AGO.   Jennifer Puhl 14672 Oak Ave. Irvine, CA 92606-2165 949-551-8862 res. puhls@aol.com   Jennifer is the Dean of the chapter. Get a category price from her. disabled and over 65 is less, regular is $72.00 Late in the year a lot less. No more poor me, I'll sponser you. It's up to you!   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: joining this and that From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 02:28:45 -0500       quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > In recent years, I have tried unsuccessfully to join THREE California > AGO chapters: ... In each case, I > have written to the Secretary and asked for the blanks. In each case, > none > were forthcoming. > > Oh, I know I could write to headquarters and do it, but if the > individual chapters can't be bothered, why should I?   OTOH, I have found it quite easy to join a chapter. I write and tell them that the enclosed check (made for the appropriate amount) is for my first years dues....   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: joining this and that From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 02:29:49 -0500       quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > In recent years, I have tried unsuccessfully to join THREE California > AGO chapters: ... In each case, I > have written to the Secretary and asked for the blanks. In each case, > none > were forthcoming. > > Oh, I know I could write to headquarters and do it, but if the > individual chapters can't be bothered, why should I?   OTOH, I have found it quite easy to join a chapter. I write and tell them that the enclosed check (made for the appropriate amount) is for my first years dues, and make the same notation on the face of the check. That way, if they don't want me to be a member, they must return the check.   Hasn't happened yet.. <vbg> ...   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: joining this and that From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 02:29:49 -0500       quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > In recent years, I have tried unsuccessfully to join THREE California > AGO chapters: ... In each case, I > have written to the Secretary and asked for the blanks. In each case, > none > were forthcoming. > > Oh, I know I could write to headquarters and do it, but if the > individual chapters can't be bothered, why should I?   OTOH, I have found it quite easy to join a chapter. I write and tell them that the enclosed check (made for the appropriate amount) is for my first years dues, and make the same notation on the face of the check. That way, if they don't want me to be a member, they must return the check.   Hasn't happened yet.. <vbg> ...   ns