PipeChat Digest #2036 - Thursday, April 19, 2001
 
Errata!  LA Philharmonic
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden; was: Easter preludes
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden; was: Easter preludes
  by <LLWheels@aol.com>
Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden; was: Easter preludes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden; was: Easter preludes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Easter Preludes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Opera vs. other options
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Errata! LA Philharmonic From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:27:02 -0700   Some prodding to do some more research proved that a previous poster was=20 pretty much dead-on when he said that Los Angeles' Philharmonic Auditorium= =20 was indeed Temple Baptist Church. Although the structure became strictly a= =20 church building after the 1964 departure of the LA Philharmonic and the LA= =20 Opera Company to the new Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, records indicate that=20 the reinforced concrete structure of 1906 (not 1901, as previously stated)= =20 was indeed partly financed by the Temple Baptist congregation along with=20 loca business interests. However, the name "Temple Baptist" only lasted=20 until 1915, when it became "Clune Auditorium", leased by film exhibitor=20 Billy Clune. Clune ran D.W. Griffith's "Birth of a Nation" there for a=20 solid two year run, and ran other films there until 1920. By this time,=20 the new "movie palaces" on Broadway, such as the nearby "Million Dollar"=20 (located in the same block), took over the business of film=20 exhibition. After Clune's departure, the auditorium was leased by the Los= =20 Angeles Philharmonic Association, who held the lease until 1964, vacating=20 it to move to the newly-completed Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, where they=20 reside today. They will move into "Wizzley" upon completion...already=20 delayed once, then again into 2003, due to Frank Gehry's problematic design= =20 causing many construction headaches. Acoustician Yasuhisa Toyota is still= =20 fiddling with details such as holes in the loopy ceiling for=20 lighting. Overbearing Phil general manager Deborah Borda, late of the NY=20 Phil, is quoted as being willing to buy all press critics tickets to Paris= =20 on the day of "Wizzley's" shakedown rehearsal. As I've said before..."a=20 train wreck in the making". But, I digress....   Archives show, however, that Temple Baptist continued to hold Sunday=20 services in the auditorium all the way until 1984. However, it wasn't=20 until 1964 that Temple Baptist attached a tacky "shopping center modern"=20 fa=E7ade to the west facing entrance to the building in an effort to make it= =20 look more like a church. It was then that a false mesh ceiling was=20 installed and the balconies were closed forever. Further, the congregation= =20 held partial interest in the building until bought out in 1983 by Japanese= =20 developers, who envisioned a massive high rise on the site. I witnessed=20 the demolition of the auditorium on a daily basis through 1985 and 1986,=20 and, what was supposed to be a two month job lasted over two years, helping= =20 bankrupt the developers. The site is now a parking lot, with a statue of=20 Beethoven staring at it from across the street, a distant reminder of the=20 site where Gershwin played his last concert and where Stravinski and other= =20 greats once conducted.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden; was: Easter preludes From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:01:57 -0500   I remember in the Schweitzer a blurb about Guilmant's playing it quietly = and slowly. I've done that, and I've played it full speed and full organ. = Last Sunday morning I did it at a moderate pace on just a flute chorus, because = I had received a special dispensation to use it for a prelude when we otherwise would have had none.   I'm in Ben's camp - I don't like all chorale preludes, but there are some gems, Orgelbuchlein and otherwise, that deserve more than the status of beginner's pieces and attic fodder.   Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:01:55 -0700   Enough, already (grin).   "Christ lag" is part and parcel of Lutheran Easter. It and "Christ ist Erstanden" and some other things probably weren't included in the = Episcopal Hymnal 1940 because of the rampant anti-German sentiment in this country = at the time it was being edited. If you look in that book, you'll see that MOST = of German chorales that WERE included had either English translations of the = tune names or new tune names attached ... "O Haupt" became "Passion Chorale", = "Wachet auf" became "Wake, Awake", etc.   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden; was: Easter preludes From: <LLWheels@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:26:47 EDT     --part1_92.136566d7.280fc307_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   In a message dated Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:07:52 -0500 "Robert Lind" < Robert_Lind@cch.com> writes:   > .Also, I know some people can't get enough of the Orgelb=3DFCchlein, yet > somehow I've ignored it since my very earliest days as an organ student. = T=3D he > settings are too short to be practical in my experience as a church > musician, save for stringing a bunch of settings together, which I = almost > would never do anymore. So my question here is: how many mature = organists > out there with a vast repertory who can play difficult works are still >=3D20   I'm not sure my repertoire could be classified as vast, but it does = include=3D20 some larger Bach works, Dupre, Durufle, Mendelssohn, Hindemith, Franck and = a=3D =3D20 few other folks you might have heard of..... Yet, I find the = Orgelbuechlein=3D20=3D a=3D20 continuing source of inspiration and usefulness. Part of its attraction = is=3D20 the compactness of the form -- which is a problem for you, but an = advantage=3D20 for me. Because the Prelude in our parish is considered <part of the = service=3D >=3D20 rather than <pre-service music> and comes after the announcements = when=3D20 everyone is settled and listening, I need to keep them rather on the = short=3D20 side. That doesn't mean that I never play anything extended, but that = would=3D20 be the exception rather than the rule. The question of relating the text = to=3D20 the Methodist service is handled by referring to the hymn -- when it is = in=3D20 the Methodist Hymnal -- or quoting relevant parts of the hymn text along = wit=3D h=3D20 the title when it is not included in the hymnal. This is usually = reinforced=3D20 by other parts of the service. At KUMC we generally follow the Common=3D20 Lectionary, but are not bound to it. No matter whether we are using = the=3D20 prescribed pericopes or not, each service is planned thematically -- = prayers=3D ,=3D20 hymns, music, preaching, everything. (usually it works, sometimes we = strike=3D20 out - about the same as everywhere else I suspect)   As far as registration, I find that many of the organ chorales work = with=3D20 different kinds of registration, again depending on the theme and ambiance = o=3D f=3D20 the service. On Easter I play Christ Lag... with a 16-foot plenum up thru = th=3D e=3D20 Choir Scharff (manuals coupled) with the secondary 16-foot reed = (Bassoon=3D20 borrowed from the Swell) added to the pedal plenum. Like it or not, no = one=3D20 sleeps -- but we are, after all, talking about Easter. I play the same = piece=3D =3D20 at funerals with a more subdued registration -- perhaps 8-foot flute = and=3D20 4-foot principal and 16 in the pedal.   Robert Lind goes on... =3DA0 =3DA0<I could further put my neck on the block and say that I think = there are an awful lot of uncultured, unknowing parishioners in churches across America, whose numbers are increasing daily, who would be turned off by = this piece and other pieces like it. Must they suffer because we insist on force-feeding them this cod liver oil?>   You say you don't want flames, but comparing literature which is beloved = by=3D20 many on this list to cod liver oil is akin to lighting the match = yourself!=3D20   As far as uncultured, unknowing parishioners - I'm sure they exist, we = don't=3D =3D20 plan worship especially for them. Our worship is planned for our = worshipping=3D =3D20 community. This is a whole different thread, but I firmly believe that = many=3D20 churches confuse worship with evangelism. They are not <one and the = same.>=3D20 When we misunderstand worship as primarily evangelism, we must plan it = aroun=3D d=3D20 the lowest common denominator. A congregation which depends upon its = worship=3D =3D20 to be its evangelism, has a lazy view of evangelism. I do not mean to = say=3D20 that worship should be purposefully esoteric or dis-inclusive, or = that=3D20 elements of evangelism may not serendipitously occur, but we must = remember=3D20 that worship is the work of the faithful, not the nonbeliever. When = one=3D20 becomes part of a worshipping community, one learns the pattern of worship o=3D f=3D20 that community. There is little in ANY worship that would seem familiar = to=3D20 the unchurched in our society. Where else but at worship would one = encounter=3D =3D20 the equivalent of preaching, hymn-singing, praying and scripture-reading? = If=3D =3D20 we REALLY wanted it to appeal to the unchurched it would necessarily be on = T=3D V=3D20 with an attractive, charismatic master-of-ceremonies introducing the=3D20 dog-and-pony acts which would be limited to four-minute and 45-second=3D20 segments to match the average attention-span and it would require no = thought=3D =3D20 or participation beyond pressing the remote-control. ( I think that show = can=3D =3D20 be found on the local independent UHF channel on Sunday at 7)   Thank you, NO! In our community Worship (or in another translation:worth-ship) is defined = a=3D s=3D20 <the work of the people of God.> We also insist on other archaic = practices=3D20 such as: reading of scripture, singing of hymns and psalms, gathering for = th=3D e=3D20 Eucharist (REALLY esoteric!) hymn-singing (in parts, even)! prayer = and=3D20 preaching. What's more, we value these forms and have no plans to abandon = an=3D y=3D20 of them for the comfort of the unchurched.   COD LIVER OIL INDEED!   Larry L. Wheelock Organist Conductor Composer Kenwood United Methodist Church Milwaukee, WI Austin Organ Co. Opus 1628, 1928 III/55       --part1_92.136566d7.280fc307_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Univers" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:07:52 = -0500 "=3D Robert Lind" &lt; <BR>Robert_Lind@cch.com&gt; writes:</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D20=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">.Also, I know some people = c=3D an't get enough of the Orgelb=3DFCchlein, yet <BR>somehow I've ignored it since my very earliest days as an organ = student.=3D The <BR>settings are too short to be practical in my experience as a church <BR>musician, save for stringing a bunch of settings together, which I = almos=3D t <BR>would never do anymore. So my question here is: how many mature = organist=3D s <BR>out there with a vast repertory who can play difficult works are still <BR>playing these pieces? </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Un=3D ivers" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>I'm not sure my repertoire could be classified as vast, but it does = incl=3D ude=3D20 <BR>some larger Bach works, Dupre, Durufle, Mendelssohn, Hindemith, Franck = a=3D nd a=3D20 <BR>few other folks you might have heard of..... Yet, I find the = Orgelbuechl=3D ein a=3D20 <BR>continuing source of inspiration and usefulness. Part of its = attraction=3D20=3D is=3D20 <BR>the compactness of the form -- which is a problem for you, but an = advant=3D age=3D20 <BR>for me. Because the Prelude in our parish is considered &lt;part of = the=3D20=3D service&gt;=3D20 <BR>rather than &lt;pre-service music&gt; and comes after the = announcements=3D20=3D when=3D20 <BR>everyone is settled and listening, I need to keep them rather on the = sho=3D rt=3D20 <BR>side. That doesn't mean that I never play anything extended, but that = wo=3D uld=3D20 <BR>be the exception rather than the rule. The question of relating the = text=3D to=3D20 <BR>the Methodist service is handled by referring to the hymn -- when it = is=3D20=3D in=3D20 <BR>the Methodist Hymnal -- or quoting relevant parts of the hymn text = along=3D with=3D20 <BR>the title when it is not included in the hymnal. This is usually = reinfor=3D ced=3D20 <BR>by other parts of the service. At KUMC we generally follow the = Common=3D20 <BR>Lectionary, but are not bound to it. No matter whether we are using = the=3D20 <BR>prescribed pericopes or not, each service is planned thematically -- = pra=3D yers,=3D20 <BR>hymns, music, preaching, everything. (usually it works, sometimes we = str=3D ike=3D20 <BR>out - about the same as everywhere else I suspect) <BR> <BR>As far as registration, I find that many of the organ chorales work = with=3D =3D20 <BR>different kinds of registration, again depending on the theme and = ambian=3D ce of=3D20 <BR>the service. On Easter I play Christ Lag... with a 16-foot plenum up = thr=3D u the=3D20 <BR>Choir Scharff (manuals coupled) with the secondary 16-foot reed = (Bassoon=3D =3D20 <BR>borrowed from the Swell) added to the pedal plenum. Like it or not, no = o=3D ne=3D20 <BR>sleeps -- but we are, after all, talking about Easter. I play the same = p=3D iece=3D20 <BR>at funerals with a more subdued registration -- perhaps 8-foot flute = and=3D =3D20 <BR>4-foot principal and 16 in the pedal. <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Robert Lind goes on... <BR>=3DA0 =3DA0&lt;I could further put my neck on the block and say that I = think=3D there <BR>are an awful lot of uncultured, unknowing parishioners in churches = acros=3D s <BR>America, whose numbers are increasing daily, who would be turned off = by=3D20=3D this <BR>piece and other pieces like it. Must they suffer because we insist on <BR>force-feeding them this cod liver oil?&gt; <BR> <BR>You say you don't want flames, but comparing literature which is = beloved=3D by=3D20 <BR>many on this list to cod liver oil is akin to lighting the match = yoursel=3D f!=3D20 <BR> <BR>As far as uncultured, unknowing parishioners - I'm sure they exist, we = d=3D on't=3D20 <BR>plan worship especially for them. Our worship is planned for our = worship=3D ping=3D20 <BR>community. This is a whole different thread, but I firmly believe that = m=3D any=3D20 <BR>churches confuse worship with evangelism. They are not &lt;one and the = s=3D ame.&gt;=3D20 <BR>When we misunderstand worship as primarily evangelism, we must plan it = a=3D round=3D20 <BR>the lowest common denominator. A congregation which depends upon its = wor=3D ship=3D20 <BR>to be its evangelism, has a lazy view of evangelism. I do not mean to = sa=3D y=3D20 <BR>that worship should be purposefully esoteric or dis-inclusive, or = that=3D20 <BR>elements of evangelism may not serendipitously occur, but we must = rememb=3D er=3D20 <BR>that worship is the work of the faithful, not the nonbeliever. When = one=3D20 <BR>becomes part of a worshipping community, one learns the pattern of = worsh=3D ip of=3D20 <BR>that community. There is little in ANY worship that would seem = familiar=3D20=3D to=3D20 <BR>the unchurched in our society. Where else but at worship would one = encou=3D nter=3D20 <BR>the equivalent of preaching, hymn-singing, praying and = scripture-reading=3D ? If=3D20 <BR>we REALLY wanted it to appeal to the unchurched it would necessarily = be=3D20=3D on TV=3D20 <BR>with an attractive, charismatic master-of-ceremonies introducing = the=3D20 <BR>dog-and-pony acts which would be limited to four-minute and = 45-second=3D20 <BR>segments to match the average attention-span and it would require no = tho=3D ught=3D20 <BR>or participation beyond pressing the remote-control. ( I think that = show=3D can=3D20 <BR>be found on the local independent UHF channel on Sunday at 7) <BR> <BR>Thank you, NO! <BR>In our community Worship (or in another translation:worth-ship) is = defin=3D ed as=3D20 <BR>&lt;the work of the people of God.&gt; We also insist on other archaic = p=3D ractices=3D20 <BR>such as: reading of scripture, singing of hymns and psalms, gathering = fo=3D r the=3D20 <BR>Eucharist (REALLY esoteric!) hymn-singing (in parts, even)! prayer = and=3D20 <BR>preaching. What's more, we value these forms and have no plans to = abando=3D n any=3D20 <BR>of them for the comfort of the unchurched. <BR> <BR>COD LIVER OIL INDEED! <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Un=3D ivers" LANG=3D3D"0">Larry L. Wheelock <BR>Organist <BR>Conductor <BR>Composer <BR>Kenwood United Methodist Church <BR>Milwaukee, WI <BR>Austin Organ Co. Opus 1628, 1928 III/55</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000" S=3D IZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Bimini" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#ff0000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Bi=3D mini" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_92.136566d7.280fc307_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden; was: Easter preludes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:33:03 EDT     --part1_e3.137ff943.280fc47f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/18/01 12:37:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JamesM8336@aol.com writes:     > The tune is based on the medieval > melody for "Christ ist erstanden." which is based on the Gregorian = chant > of the Easter sequence, "Victimae paschali." > >   BUT..... the particular setting by JSB does not have an Easter sound. = I'm sure that Durufle could do something wonderfully suitable. Bach did something very academic and beautiful, but it does not do for me (hence, possibly for others) what is needed.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_e3.137ff943.280fc47f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/18/01 12:37:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>JamesM8336@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The tune &nbsp;is = based on the medieval <BR>melody for "Christ ist erstanden." &nbsp;which is based on the = Gregorian chant <BR>of the Easter sequence, "Victimae paschali." <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>BUT..... &nbsp;the particular setting by JSB does not have an Easter = sound. &nbsp;I'm <BR>sure that Durufle could do something wonderfully suitable. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Bach did <BR>something very academic and beautiful, but it does not do for me = (hence, <BR>possibly for others) what is needed. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_e3.137ff943.280fc47f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Lag in Todesbanden; was: Easter preludes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:56:50 EDT     --part1_c0.12ecfca4.280fca12_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/18/01 2:08:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Robert_Lind@cch.com writes:     > I could further put my neck on the block and say that I think there > are an awful lot of uncultured, unknowing parishioners in churches = across > America, whose numbers are increasing daily, who would be turned off by = this > piece and other pieces like it. Must they suffer because we insist on > force-feeding them this cod liver oil? > >   Thank you Bob!!!!! I have long been of the mindset that it is better use of my time, the church's organ, and the congregations money for me to learn and play organ =   literature to enhance and support the worship experience and help prepare =   the listeners for worship. In one Methodist church where the choir = director insisted upon "appropriate and liturgically correct" title for = voluntaries, I simply made them up from some statement in the Gospel lesson and then = played whatever piece of literature I wanted to. She was always wonderfully pleased at how the music always fit the readings. Doink!! Chorale preludes written for the purpose of "service music" are generally trite and less than musically satisfying; chant-based music written as literature (Durufle, Dupre, etc) are generally stunning and can be very effectively used in and around worship. Preludes, Fantasias, Toccatas = and Fugues, and Carillons generally can do just about anything you want them = to. Just pick a title!!!   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_c0.12ecfca4.280fca12_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/18/01 2:08:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>Robert_Lind@cch.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I could further = put my neck on the block and say that I think there <BR>are an awful lot of uncultured, unknowing parishioners in churches = across <BR>America, whose numbers are increasing daily, who would be turned off = by this <BR>piece and other pieces like it. Must they suffer because we insist on <BR>force-feeding them this cod liver oil? <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Thank you Bob!!!!! <BR>I have long been of the mindset that it is better use of my time, the <BR>church's organ, and the congregations money for me to learn and play = organ <BR>literature to enhance and support the worship experience and = &nbsp;help prepare <BR>the listeners for worship. &nbsp;In one Methodist church where the = choir director <BR>insisted upon "appropriate and liturgically correct" title for = voluntaries, I <BR>simply made them up from some statement in the Gospel lesson and then = played <BR>whatever piece of literature I &nbsp;wanted to. &nbsp;She was always = wonderfully <BR>pleased at how the music always fit the readings. &nbsp;Doink!! <BR>Chorale preludes written for the purpose of "service music" are = generally <BR>trite and less than musically satisfying; chant-based music written as =   <BR>literature (Durufle, Dupre, etc) are generally stunning and can be = very <BR>effectively used in and around worship. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Preludes, = Fantasias, &nbsp;Toccatas and <BR>Fugues, and Carillons generally can do just about anything you want = them to. &nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;Just pick a title!!! <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_c0.12ecfca4.280fca12_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Easter Preludes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:13:33 EDT     --part1_8d.55309a7.280fcdfd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/18/01 4:36:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:     > . Not all Easter music is or > should be joyous sounding, especially when pondering the great mystery = of > the > empty tomb... > A friend of mine at a Hardin Simmons University had an organ piece > commissioned for Easter by a fellow music professor, of his, at the same =   > school and he asked that it be written in a "creepy French style"... and = it > works ;-) > >   This is true. My statement is directed ONLY at Bach's setting. Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_8d.55309a7.280fcdfd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/18/01 4:36:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, DRAWKNOB@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. &nbsp;Not all = Easter music is or <BR>should be joyous sounding, especially when pondering the great mystery = of <BR>the <BR>empty tomb... <BR>A friend of mine at a Hardin Simmons University had an organ piece <BR>commissioned for Easter by a fellow music professor, of his, at the = same <BR>school and he asked that it be written in a "creepy French style"... = and it <BR>works ;-) <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>This is true. &nbsp;&nbsp;My statement is directed ONLY at Bach's = setting. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_8d.55309a7.280fcdfd_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Opera vs. other options From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:44:17 -0700 (PDT)   I must say that a good Maria Callas recording or touching performance of La Boheme would make me consider opening my sleeping bag and camping out in a bus or train station!   --- David Carter <david_n_carter@hotmail.com> wrote: > >From: Cremona502@cs.com Ah! Music not only sooths > the savage beast, but > >also runs it off if it > >will not be soothed. What a weapon!! > > Bruce - Thanks for this quote. I have added it to my > quote file, wherein I > have hundreds of quotes from people of all sorts, on > all sorts of topics. > Now I have a quote from an organist! > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/