PipeChat Digest #2039 - Saturday, April 21, 2001
 
Re: "Awe-Struck" is an Understatement!  (Question and Answer)
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Fwd:  mp3.com website
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: "Awe-Struck"--Comment
  by "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net>
Roman Candle etc.
  by "Louis Katz" <Louis.Katz@iris.tamucc.edu>
X-post: Baptist mystery solved!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Arhur's Widor and the great pianists-"Awe-Struck..."
  by <Doppelflote8@aol.com>
Ashley and Wicks
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
RIALTOFEST 5 Weekend  X-POSTED
  by "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com>
Howard Goodall mystery piece
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Howard Goodall mystery piece
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Console CAM - Why not?
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Howard Goodall mystery piece
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Howard Goodall mystery piece
  by "edward a mc callum" <edmack2@juno.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: "Awe-Struck" is an Understatement! (Question and Answer) From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:06:51 EDT     --part1_98.13b2bb83.28118e6b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Jane: You ask: how did I do it? [Learn the Widor 5th in one afternoon.]   Answer: I started as a pianist. I studied piano for 15 years, before I = took up the organ seriously.   Once you have mastered the piano, the organ is a relatively easy = instrument to play. You just have to learn to play the pedals, then coordinate that with the hands. It took me 2 years. (Bach Trio Sonatas are ideal for learning the =   coordination.) From there, you just go on to learn the organ repertory. (Incidentally, I =   don't claim to have "mastered" the piano. One never really does that.)   Much of the organ repertory --- and especially the French repertory --- is =   really very pianistic. The Widor Toccata (5th Symphony), for instance, consists of pianistic arpeggios and chords, with just a very simple line = in the pedal underneath. As I said, the piano writing of Liszt (or Chopin, = or Rachmaninoff) is much more difficult.   On the organ, you do get into real difficulties when you try to tackle = some of the modern German/Austrian repertory: Franz Schmidt, Georg Trexler, = etc. It just takes time to get acclimated to their styles. This is also true = of French composers of a later generations: Dupre, Langlais, Messaien, etc. =   (Actually, I have yet to tackle Messaien. Lots of other organists are playing Messaien, so I've felt no compulsion to evangelize him. By the = way: in his case, too, his piano works are probably more difficult, = technically, than his organ pieces. He was quite a pianist. I know: I heard him play = the piano in person, in New York in 1972.)   This reply to your query might be of general interest, so I'm taking the liberty of forwarding it to Pipechat.   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_98.13b2bb83.28118e6b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Jane: You ask: how did = I do it? [Learn the Widor 5th in one afternoon.] <BR> <BR>Answer: &nbsp;I started as a pianist. &nbsp;I studied piano for 15 = years, before I took <BR>up the organ seriously. <BR> <BR>Once you have mastered the piano, the organ is a relatively easy = instrument <BR>to play. <BR>You just have to learn to play the pedals, then coordinate that with = the <BR>hands. &nbsp;It took me 2 years. &nbsp;(Bach Trio Sonatas are ideal = for learning the <BR>coordination.) <BR>From there, you just go on to learn the organ repertory. = &nbsp;(Incidentally, I <BR>don't claim to have "mastered" the piano. &nbsp;One never really does = that.) <BR> <BR>Much of the organ repertory --- and especially the French repertory = --- is <BR>really very pianistic. &nbsp;The Widor Toccata (5th Symphony), for = instance, <BR>consists of pianistic arpeggios and chords, with just a very simple = line in <BR>the pedal underneath. &nbsp;As I said, the piano writing of Liszt (or = Chopin, or <BR>Rachmaninoff) is much more difficult. <BR> <BR>On the organ, you do get into real difficulties when you try to tackle = some <BR>of the modern German/Austrian repertory: Franz Schmidt, Georg Trexler, = etc. &nbsp; <BR>It just takes time to get acclimated to their styles. &nbsp;This is = also true of <BR>French composers of a later generations: &nbsp;Dupre, Langlais, = Messaien, etc. &nbsp; <BR>(Actually, I have yet to tackle Messaien. &nbsp;Lots of other = organists are <BR>playing Messaien, so I've felt no compulsion to evangelize him. = &nbsp;By the way: <BR>in his case, too, his piano works are probably more difficult, = technically, <BR>than his organ pieces. &nbsp;He was quite a pianist. &nbsp;I know: I = heard him play the <BR>piano in person, in New York in 1972.) <BR> <BR>This reply to your query might be of general interest, so I'm taking = the <BR>liberty of forwarding it to Pipechat. <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_98.13b2bb83.28118e6b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Fwd: mp3.com website From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:52:35 -0000   --- In musiclassical@y..., ALamirande@a... wrote: For anyone who might be interested in listening to excerpts of my recording on mp3.com: Yahoo has added another step, just to make things more difficult!   You go to http://mp3.com/arthurlamirande There, you choose which excerpt yhou wish to listen to: Improvisation; Chaconne, Part I; or Chaconne, Part II.   Then, you click on Hi-Fi Play   At that point, some stupid advertising comes up, and it asks you to say if you are over 21, or not over 21. Click on whichever is pertinent. Another window will come up, and there is a botton there saying "Get Music". Click on that.   Then, the recording will come up. You may have to turn the volume on your computer all the way up, to hear it properly.   Arthur LaMirande --- End forwarded message ---      
(back) Subject: Re: "Awe-Struck"--Comment From: "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:36:58 -0400   Arthur & PipeChatters:   You mention in your post having heard Olivier Messiaen as pianist in 1972. I heard Messiaen and his wife, Yvonne Loriod, play a duo piano recital in Hertz Hall, University of California, Berkeley in that same year. It was one of the most memorable concerts I've heard anywhere by anybody.   All the best,   Ben Baldus    
(back) Subject: Roman Candle etc. From: "Louis Katz" <Louis.Katz@iris.tamucc.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:53:33 -0500   Hello Pipechat,   Doing well down here. Putting my pipes in trays and getting ready to move my organ to Helena Montana. My organ with 5 octave kiln was a smashing success. The first night the flames were a bit frustrated by high winds but in some ways it added to the drama. The second night we had relatively still air and the blue flames lit off sweetly to the beat of Bach, Joplin, Scarlatti, and Byrd.   Anyhow, I bought a trailer and am packing for my June 23 performance in Helena. I have to build a new kiln up there and that means a bunch of new plumbing, and also build a structure to keep the organ dry. I want to thank you all for your help again in giving instruction in removing the organ originally, and various little tidbits in my refurbishing. I did include pipechat in my credits on the program. Unlike many internet critics I can only believe that the world is a better place through the long distance friendships that develop in forums like this.     A school group came through today with many music students and they enjoyed seeing the organ. I was on two news programs and will be in the local paper next week.   I will be settting my subscription to nomail in a few days until I get back. If you would like to attend this performance I am doing in Helena you can call 406 443-3502 for more information or visit:   http://www.archiebray.org   Louis Katz Louis@nceca.net    
(back) Subject: X-post: Baptist mystery solved! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:06:28 EDT     --part1_48.14a25a06.28120ce4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I checked today with the music director at First Baptist Church = Gainesville regarding the problem with the 8 Principal being "on" with every stop. Seems the wealth of information from the lists was passed on to the organ tech and the offending diode was replaced, and all is well!   Thanks much to everyone who helped. The winning solution came from, = where else, the Casavant factory!   There was no report, however, on whether the tech was embarrassed at not having thought is over the previous year or so!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_48.14a25a06.28120ce4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I checked today with = the music director at First Baptist Church Gainesville <BR>regarding the problem with the 8 Principal being "on" with every stop. = &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>Seems the wealth of information from the lists was passed on to the = organ <BR>tech and the offending diode was replaced, and all is well! <BR> <BR>Thanks much to everyone who helped. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The winning = solution came from, where <BR>else, the Casavant factory! <BR> <BR>There was no report, however, on whether the tech was embarrassed at = not <BR>having thought is over the previous year or so!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_48.14a25a06.28120ce4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Arhur's Widor and the great pianists-"Awe-Struck..." From: <Doppelflote8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:16:57 EDT     --part1_93.9a6c24c.28121d69_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Much of the organ repertory --- and especially the French repertory --- is =   really very pianistic. The Widor Toccata (5th Symphony), for instance, consists of pianistic arpeggios and chords, with just a very simple line = in the pedal underneath. As I said, the piano writing of Liszt (or Chopin, = or Rachmaninoff) is much more difficult.     I agree wholeheartedly...as one who has performed both Rachmaninoff = (Concerto no2) and Tchaikovsky(Concerto No.1)     Happy TGIF! Alan C.   --part1_93.9a6c24c.28121d69_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial Black" LANG=3D"0"><B>Much of = the organ repertory --- and especially the French repertory --- is <BR>really very pianistic. &nbsp;The Widor Toccata (5th Symphony), for = instance, <BR>consists of pianistic arpeggios and chords, with just a very simple = line in <BR>the pedal underneath. &nbsp;As I said, the piano writing of Liszt (or = Chopin, or <BR>Rachmaninoff) is much more difficult. <BR> <BR> <BR>I agree wholeheartedly...as one who has performed both Rachmaninoff = (Concerto <BR>no2) and Tchaikovsky(Concerto No.1) <BR> <BR> <BR>Happy TGIF! <BR>Alan C.</B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_93.9a6c24c.28121d69_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Ashley and Wicks From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:22:42 EDT     --part1_103.200a9ff.28121ec2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Someone asked about Ashley Miller (I hope I got that name right) and a = Wicks organ in a New York "concert hall".   Said organist was in residence at the Ethical Culture Society at Central = Park West and 64th Street for many years. And that is where you will find the Wicks magnum opus, insofar as New York City is concerned.   Odd situation there. They alternate use of the organ with use of a piano = and instrumental soloist, on alternate weeks. At least, that's what they were =   doing, back in the 80s.   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_103.200a9ff.28121ec2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Someone asked about = Ashley Miller (I hope I got that name right) and a Wicks <BR>organ in a New York "concert hall". <BR> <BR>Said organist was in residence at the Ethical Culture Society at = Central Park <BR>West and 64th Street for many years. &nbsp;And that is where you will = find the <BR>Wicks magnum opus, insofar as New York City is concerned. <BR> <BR>Odd situation there. &nbsp;They alternate use of the organ with use of = a piano and <BR>instrumental soloist, on alternate weeks. &nbsp;At least, that's what = they were <BR>doing, back in the 80s. <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_103.200a9ff.28121ec2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RIALTOFEST 5 Weekend X-POSTED From: "S LaManna" <showstager@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:55:15 -0400   If any of you are going to the Rialtofest, would you please reply to me so = I know to look for you.   As producer of this event, it would be nice to put faces to names of the many of you I have seen up on the pipe lists over the years.   Just ask for me at the theater.   For the Piporg-l folks, remember we have PETER CONTE at two events....playing the 3/80 Walker at the theatre, and the 5/80 at the Sanfelippo residence.   See you there!   Steve LaManna Producer   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Howard Goodall mystery piece From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:01:36 -0400   At the conclusion of Howard Goodall's "Organ Works, part 4," which was broadcast this evening on the Ovation cable television channel (and will be repeated a little later tonight at 12:30 a.m. Saturday morning), Howard walks into St. Ignatius Loyola Church in NYC and someone is playing a fabulous French toccata (at least it seems French to me). Does anyone know what piece it is?   This is the installment of "Organ Works" in which he blindfolds a dozen "music students" and asks them to determine which of two organs they hear play the first page of the finale to Vierne's Symphony no. 1 is the pipe organ and which is the Allen electronic.   Also what is the organ piece played over the final credits? --the same piece is played at the end of each installment of "Organ Works," I believe. Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu  
(back) Subject: Re: Howard Goodall mystery piece From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:27:48 EDT     --part1_27.144b2b9e.28123c14_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/20/2001 9:06:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:     > Howard walks into St. Ignatius Loyola Church in NYC and > someone is playing a fabulous French toccata (at least it seems > French to me). Does anyone know what piece it is?   I was there for the six hours of filming that produced those three or four =   minutes of material, and my recollection is that it was Dieu parmi nous, = from La Nativite of Messiaen. It was played by Kent Tritle, organist of the church. I thought at the end, Howard Goodall played Ich ruf zu dir.   Those four episodes are available on two tapes, through the Allen Organ Company at $20. They have a regular small advert in TAO or The Diapason giving information on ordering them. Converting the original PAL tape to = NTSC and making it available here at such a reasonable price is a worthy public =   service, and I can't think they make any money out of it.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com       --part1_27.144b2b9e.28123c14_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 4/20/2001 9:06:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>runyonr@muohio.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Howard walks into = St. Ignatius Loyola Church in NYC and <BR>someone is playing a fabulous French toccata (at least it seems <BR>French to me). &nbsp;Does anyone know what piece it is?</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I was there for the six hours of filming that produced those three or = four <BR>minutes of material, and my recollection is that it was Dieu parmi = nous, from <BR>La Nativite of Messiaen. It was played by Kent Tritle, organist of the =   <BR>church. I thought at the end, Howard Goodall played Ich ruf zu dir. <BR> <BR>Those four episodes are available on two tapes, through the Allen = Organ <BR>Company at $20. They have a regular small advert in TAO or The = Diapason <BR>giving information on ordering them. Converting the original PAL tape = to NTSC <BR>and making it available here at such a reasonable price is a worthy = public <BR>service, and I can't think they make any money out of it. <BR> <BR>Cheers, <BR> <BR>Malcolm Wechsler <BR>www.mander-organs.com <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_27.144b2b9e.28123c14_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Console CAM - Why not? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:23:43 -0500   She foaled!   Ever since Noel gave us the link to this site and suggested it be done for organs, I keep checking back from time to time. I had yet to see a mare after she foaled, but there she is with baby!   Great site, Noel! Do you think an organ would be that exciting?   Glenda Sutton     ----- Original Message ----- From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>   > http://www.sawyercreek.com/page6.htm > > At the web address listed above you can view the foaling stall at an > Appaloosa horse farm and join them in in the anticipated blessed = event... > > Wouldn't it be great if there was a ConsoleCAM on some of the major > organs? At Notre Dame...view the console and listen 24 hours a > day...maybe catch a service or an improvisation? Or hear an organist > work over and over again to get a phrase just right.        
(back) Subject: Re: Howard Goodall mystery piece From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:56:28 -0400   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1224300701=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" ; format=3D"flowed"   >In a message dated 4/20/2001 9:06:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >runyonr@muohio.edu writes: > > >>Howard walks into St. Ignatius Loyola Church in NYC and >>someone is playing a fabulous French toccata (at least it seems >>French to me). Does anyone know what piece it is? >> > > >I was there for the six hours of filming that produced those three or = four >minutes of material, and my recollection is that it was Dieu parmi nous, = from >La Nativite of Messiaen. It was played by Kent Tritle, organist of the >church. I thought at the end, Howard Goodall played Ich ruf zu dir. > >Those four episodes are available on two tapes, through the Allen Organ >Company at $20. They have a regular small advert in TAO or The Diapason >giving information on ordering them. Converting the original PAL tape to = NTSC >and making it available here at such a reasonable price is a worthy = public >service, and I can't think they make any money out of it. > >Cheers, > >Malcolm Wechsler >www.mander-organs.com   Many thanks, Malcolm, for the title and the eyewitness account. By the way, Howard Goodall's "Choir Works" series is fascinating as well!   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1224300701=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated 4/20/2001 9:06:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,   runyonr@muohio.edu writes:       <excerpt>Howard walks into St. Ignatius Loyola Church in NYC and   someone is playing a fabulous French toccata (at least it seems   French to me). Does anyone know what piece it is?     </excerpt>     I was there for the six hours of filming that produced those three or four   minutes of material, and my recollection is that it was Dieu parmi nous, from   La Nativite of Messiaen. It was played by Kent Tritle, organist of the   church. I thought at the end, Howard Goodall played Ich ruf zu dir.     Those four episodes are available on two tapes, through the Allen Organ   Company at $20. They have a regular small advert in TAO or The Diapason   giving information on ordering them. Converting the original PAL tape to NTSC   and making it available here at such a reasonable price is a worthy public   service, and I can't think they make any money out of it.     Cheers,     Malcolm Wechsler   www.mander-organs.com   </smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>   </smaller></fontfamily>Many thanks, Malcolm, for the title and the eyewitness account. By the way, Howard Goodall's "Choir Works" series is fascinating as well!   Randy Runyon   organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati   runyonr@muohio.edu   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1224300701=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D--  
(back) Subject: Re: Howard Goodall mystery piece From: "edward a mc callum" <edmack2@juno.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:56:53 -0400   is this the same howard goodall who did the theme for mr.bean series? if so ---i would like to know the name of the piece. it is a melody that i think of often, and would like to get the music.   ed mc callum, melbourne, florida