PipeChat Digest #2046 - Monday, April 23, 2001
 
retrievable piston combinations
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Bruce is right, use the organ
  by "Wayne Grauel" <wgvideo@attglobal.net>
unfriendly churches
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Medinah Temple Austin (crossposted)
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: unfriendly churches
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by "John Moore" <john_moore@mindspring.com>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: St. Thomas
  by "r" <basset3@warwick.net>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: unfriendly churches
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
 

(back) Subject: retrievable piston combinations From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:08:08 EDT     --part1_a2.131f6a2e.28156718_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Retrievable piston combinations? (asks our colleague in Florida.)   Solution: A computer memory system, with a lock.   In this day and age, all organs should be equipped not only with a combination action, but also with a computer memory system (lockable).   Sorry, Mr. Flentrop.   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_a2.131f6a2e.28156718_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Retrievable piston = combinations? &nbsp;(asks our colleague in Florida.) <BR> <BR>Solution: &nbsp;A computer memory system, with a lock. <BR> <BR>In this day and age, all organs should be equipped not only with a <BR>combination action, but also with a computer memory system (lockable). <BR> <BR>Sorry, Mr. Flentrop. <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a2.131f6a2e.28156718_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Bruce is right, use the organ From: "Wayne Grauel" <wgvideo@attglobal.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:26:54 -0400   Bruce is exactly right, especially when it comes to mechanical action. Organs do not go out of tune by playing them (at least not good ones). Leathers in mechanical actions actually will fair better by regular use. I've never had a big console with combination actions, and I can see how one would be upset at changing combinations, put you can set rules too. The Flentrop I played could go well in excess of a year or more without tuning, Other than a reed or two here and there... most of us have the ability to retune a reed. I never locked the organ. There were too many instances when I was in school and would go to a really nice church with a good room and the sacred cow would be nailed shut. Oh yes, I love the church secretaries too, and their explanations that you have to be specially trained to play "their organ". Gee, I haven't had Moeller 101 yet! Our church tried to pull that stunt and thought everyone who wanted to play the Flentrop should have to pay them, telling me how much it cost to use it per hour ( at about 9.5 cents a kilowatt hour). Fortunately for me, I put my foot down right then and there and told them good luck finding a sub. the things we have (had) to go through. Wayne    
(back) Subject: unfriendly churches From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:47:50 EDT     --part1_84.14c93278.28157066_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Unfriendly churches? Try getting into a Mormon temple --- if you're not a =   Mormon!   About like getting into Mecca, if you're not a Muslim!   As for St. Thomas Episcopal Church, 5th Avenue, New York: I mentioned = that church, way back in 1960 --- that's more than 40 years ago! --- to an Episcopal priest in Springfield, Massachusetts. (That was when I was = serving as assistant organist of the Episcopal cathedral there.) In connection = with the possibility that I might relocate to New York City sometime.   His response? "I hope you've got a lot of money."   In four decades, I have never once been greeted by any clergyman in that church, or anyone else, for that matter. Not so very long ago, I stared = the rector of that church right full square in the face. He stared back, = without a word. Expecting obeisance from me, presumably. (Fat chance. Ha ha.)   Last time I was in the music office of that church was back around 1965, = if memory serves. The organist has a luxuriously appointed office. Plus a practice (pipe) organ in the choir room. They really do have money to = throw around in that church! That's the church where, in the 60s, they spent a huge of money to install a "baroque" pipe organ in the rear organ loft (previously sans orgue). It turned out to be such a flop that eventually they disposed of it, and installed yet another baroque organ (the present Taylor and Boody). As I said, they really do have money to throw around there.   Meanwhile, any day or night of the year, you can see the homeless camped = out on the front doorsteps of this church. The well-heeled parishioners avert =   their gaze, as the enter and egress.   Arthur LaMirande   --part1_84.14c93278.28157066_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Unfriendly churches? = &nbsp;Try getting into a Mormon temple --- if you're not a <BR>Mormon! <BR> <BR>About like getting into Mecca, if you're not a Muslim! <BR> <BR>As for St. Thomas Episcopal Church, 5th Avenue, New York: &nbsp;I = mentioned that <BR>church, way back in 1960 --- that's more than 40 years ago! --- to an <BR>Episcopal priest in Springfield, Massachusetts. &nbsp;(That was when I = was serving <BR>as assistant organist of the Episcopal cathedral there.) &nbsp;In = connection with <BR>the possibility that I might relocate to New York City sometime. <BR> <BR>His response? &nbsp;"I hope you've got a lot of money." <BR> <BR>In four decades, I have never once been greeted by any clergyman in = that <BR>church, or anyone else, for that matter. &nbsp;Not so very long ago, I = stared the <BR>rector of that church right full square in the face. &nbsp;He stared = back, without <BR>a word. &nbsp;Expecting obeisance from me, presumably. &nbsp;(Fat = chance. Ha ha.) <BR> <BR>Last time I was in the music office of that church was back around = 1965, if <BR>memory serves. &nbsp;The organist has a luxuriously appointed office. = &nbsp;Plus a <BR>practice (pipe) organ in the choir room. &nbsp;They really do have = money to throw <BR>around in that church! &nbsp;That's the church where, in the 60s, they = spent a <BR>huge of money to install a "baroque" pipe organ in the rear organ loft =   <BR>(previously sans orgue). &nbsp;It turned out to be such a flop that = eventually <BR>they disposed of it, and installed yet another baroque organ (the = present <BR>Taylor and Boody). &nbsp;As I said, they really do have money to throw = around <BR>there. <BR> <BR>Meanwhile, any day or night of the year, you can see the homeless = camped out <BR>on the front doorsteps of this church. &nbsp;The well-heeled = parishioners avert <BR>their gaze, as the enter and egress. <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande</FONT></HTML>   --part1_84.14c93278.28157066_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Medinah Temple Austin (crossposted) From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:34:22 -0500   According to a abc7chicago news story last Friday, the Austin is currently =   being removed from the Medinah Temple building as the new owner prepares = to convert the venerable auditorium into retail space. The organ had to go, and since a buyer was not found, the organ was donated to the City of Chicago in order to preserve the instrument. The city is removing the = organ and storing it using a city crew under the supervision of Austin Organ Company employees.   jch    
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:08:24 EDT     --part1_ae.13e43657.28159158_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/23/01 4:08:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ALamirande@aol.com writes:     > Solution: A computer memory system, with a lock. > > In this day and age, all organs should be equipped not only with a > combination action, but also with a computer memory system (lockable). > Surprisingly, I have heard of these, but I was thinking more of something that would allow the organist to take the information with them so that in =   the "unlikely event" the computer fails, all is not lost.     Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_ae.13e43657.28159158_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/23/01 4:08:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>ALamirande@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Solution: &nbsp;A = computer memory system, with a lock. <BR> <BR>In this day and age, all organs should be equipped not only with a <BR>combination action, but also with a computer memory system (lockable). =   <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>Surprisingly, I have heard of these, but I was thinking more of = something <BR>that would allow the organist to take the information with them so = that in <BR>the "unlikely event" the computer fails, all is not lost. <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ae.13e43657.28159158_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: unfriendly churches From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:22:58 EDT     --part1_5f.1423baac.281594c2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/23/01 4:48:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ALamirande@aol.com writes:     > Unfriendly churches? Try getting into a Mormon temple --- if you're not = a > Mormon! > Oh come one. If you want to play and Allen, got to the store!! ;-)     > Not so very long ago, I stared the rector of that church right full = square > in the face. He stared back, without a word. Expecting obeisance from = me, > presumably. (Fat chance. Ha ha.) >   He was probably paralysed with fear, Arthur. It's not nice to stare!!! = ;-)     > That's the church where, in the 60s, they spent a huge of money to = install a > "baroque" pipe organ in the rear organ loft (previously sans orgue). It =   > turned out to be such a flop that eventually they disposed of it, and > installed yet another baroque organ (the present Taylor and Boody). As = I > said, they really do have money to throw around there. > Now come on, Arthur. You're an organist. Why would your begrudge a = church purchasing an organ (albeit a large antiphonal) for their gallery. OK! = So it was a flop. It happens... especially that vintage. Would you rather =   they have kept it, or pay for rebuild after rebuild until it finally got trashed. I think it would be wonderful to have a nice big gushy = romantic organ in the chancel and a nice baroque tracker in the gallery. T'would = be heaven. Remember, they're helping organ builder's families to feed, = clothe and house their families.     > Meanwhile, any day or night of the year, you can see the homeless camped = out > on the front doorsteps of this church. The well-heeled parishioners = avert > their gaze, as the enter and egress. > You failed to mention how much money the parish actually DOES spend on the =   poor. Probably more than they spend on music, except for the organs, of course. And, living in NYC, you certainly know that eye contact often = means you have company for a while. It's really sad that we can't do more for =   the poor, but I'm sure that the majority of people of St. Thomas Church = are compassionate and caring.       Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_5f.1423baac.281594c2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/23/01 4:48:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>ALamirande@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Unfriendly = churches? &nbsp;Try getting into a Mormon temple --- if you're not a <BR>Mormon! <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>Oh come one. &nbsp;&nbsp;If you want to play and Allen, got to the = store!! &nbsp;;-)</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> Not so very long ago, I stared the rector of that church right full = square <BR>in the face. &nbsp;He stared back, without a word. &nbsp;Expecting = obeisance from me, <BR>presumably. &nbsp;(Fat chance. Ha ha.) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0">He was probably paralysed with fear, Arthur. = &nbsp;It's not nice to stare!!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"arial" = LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">That's the = church where, in the 60s, they spent a huge of money to install a <BR>"baroque" pipe organ in the rear organ loft (previously sans orgue). = &nbsp;It <BR>turned out to be such a flop that eventually they disposed of it, and <BR>installed yet another baroque organ (the present Taylor and Boody). = &nbsp;As I <BR>said, they really do have money to throw around there. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>Now come on, Arthur. &nbsp;&nbsp;You're an organist. &nbsp;Why would = your begrudge a church <BR>purchasing an organ (albeit a large antiphonal) for their gallery. = &nbsp;&nbsp;OK! &nbsp;So <BR>it was a flop. &nbsp;It happens... especially that vintage. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Would you rather <BR>they have kept it, or pay for rebuild after rebuild until it finally = got <BR>trashed. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I think it would be wonderful to have a = nice big gushy romantic <BR>organ in the chancel and a nice baroque tracker in the gallery. = &nbsp;T'would be <BR>heaven. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Remember, they're helping organ builder's = families to feed, clothe <BR>and house their families. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">Meanwhile, any day or night of the year, you can see the homeless = camped out <BR>on the front doorsteps of this church. &nbsp;The well-heeled = parishioners avert <BR>their gaze, as the enter and egress. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>You failed to mention how much money the parish actually DOES spend on = the <BR>poor. &nbsp;Probably more than they spend on music, except for the = organs, of <BR>course. &nbsp;&nbsp;And, living in NYC, you certainly know that eye = contact often means <BR>you have company for a while. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It's really sad that = we can't do more for <BR>the poor, but I'm sure that the majority of people of St. Thomas = Church are <BR>compassionate and caring. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_5f.1423baac.281594c2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: "John Moore" <john_moore@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:23:56 -0400 (EDT)   On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:08:24 EDT, Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   >in the "unlikely event" the computer fails   Not all that unlikely. For most systems, the "permanent" combination memory is maintained by nothing more "high tech" than a battery. If that battery was part of a "bad batch" or the technician forgot to change it out, then you would likely lose every combination at every memory level. That could be a disaster!   John Moore Atlanta, GA         =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D For a copy of my PGP public key, simply reply to this message with the subject "Get PGP Key" =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D    
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:27:27 EDT     --part1_65.1332b263.281595cf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/23/01 7:25:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, john_moore@mindspring.com writes:     > Not all that unlikely.   NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!   Say it ain't so. Computers NEVER fail.   ;-) nyuk nyuk   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_65.1332b263.281595cf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/23/01 7:25:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>john_moore@mindspring.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Not all that = unlikely. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! <BR> <BR>Say it ain't so. &nbsp;&nbsp;Computers NEVER fail. <BR> <BR>;-) &nbsp;nyuk nyuk <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_65.1332b263.281595cf_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: St. Thomas From: "r" <basset3@warwick.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:36:18 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001A_01C0CBE1.3B2A9360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Ever been there at a festal Evensong when both organs are being played? = =3D Or, when they switch verses back and forth, then join in together on the = =3D refrain? It's chilling. Glorious sound is bouncing all round the =3D space. One sees heads start to swivel and, in laymen's terms thinking =3D to themselves, is that the front one or the back one playing?   "Lighten our darkness, we beseech thee O Lord . . . "   Robert Clooney     ------=3D_NextPart_000_001A_01C0CBE1.3B2A9360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Ever been there at a festal Evensong when both =3D organs are=3D20 being played?&nbsp; </FONT><FONT size=3D3D2>Or, when they switch verses = =3D back and=3D20 forth, then join in together on the refrain?&nbsp; It's chilling.&nbsp; = =3D Glorious=3D20 sound is bouncing all round the space.&nbsp; One sees heads start to =3D swivel and,=3D20 in laymen's terms thinking to themselves, is that the front one or the =3D back one=3D20 playing?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>"Lighten our darkness, we beseech thee O Lord . . = .=3D20 "</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Robert Clooney</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001A_01C0CBE1.3B2A9360--    
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:00:51 -0700     --------------96B12C147A3B3EECD5C7433B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I think that is possible on newer organs (Allen and otherwise), but this is a used first-generation digitorg from prehistoric times (grin) ... it even has a CARD READER. The combination action locks with a key, but there's no disk drive and no way to store the combinations outside the organ. Oh, I suppose my computer geek/chanter could come up with a way to attach a computer to it, but as it's an interim organ, it's not worth the effort.   Cheers,   Bud   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 4/23/01 4:08:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > ALamirande@aol.com writes: > > > >> Solution: A computer memory system, with a lock. >> >> In this day and age, all organs should be equipped not only with a >> combination action, but also with a computer memory system >> (lockable). > > > Surprisingly, I have heard of these, but I was thinking more of > something > that would allow the organist to take the information with them so > that in > the "unlikely event" the computer fails, all is not lost. > > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --------------96B12C147A3B3EECD5C7433B Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I think that is possible on newer organs (Allen and otherwise), but this is a used first-generation digitorg from prehistoric times (grin) ... it even has a CARD READER. The combination action locks with a key, but = there's no disk drive and no way to store the combinations outside the organ. Oh, I suppose my computer geek/chanter could come up with a way to attach a computer to it, but as it's an interim organ, it's not worth the effort. <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 4/23/01 4:08:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>ALamirande@aol.com = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Solution:&nbsp; A computer memory system, with a lock.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In this day and age, all organs should be equipped not only with a</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>combination action, but also with a computer memory system (lockable).</font></font></blockquote>   <p><br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Surprisingly, I have heard of these, but I was thinking more of something</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>that would allow the = organist to take the information with them so that in</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>the "unlikely event" = the computer fails, all is not lost.</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Bruce = Cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>with the Baskerbeagles = in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Visit Howling Acres = at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------96B12C147A3B3EECD5C7433B--    
(back) Subject: Re: unfriendly churches From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:02:38 -0400   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_130355400= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   At 07:47 23/04/2001 -0400, Arthur wrote: > That's the church where, in the 60s, they spent a >huge of money to install a "baroque" pipe organ in the rear organ loft >(previously sans orgue). It turned out to be such a flop that eventually >they disposed of it.   (SNIP) I was under the impression that the rear gallery instrument was very = French in style and that the quality of sound was excellent. The problems were in =   the action and chests?   HD   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_130355400= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> At 07:47 23/04/2001 -0400,&nbsp; Arthur wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><font face=3D"arial" = size=3D2>&nbsp;That's the church where, in the 60s, they spent a <br> huge of money to install a &quot;baroque&quot; pipe organ in the rear organ loft <br> (previously sans orgue).&nbsp; It turned out to be such a flop that eventually <br> they disposed of it.</font></blockquote><br> (SNIP)<br> I was under the impression that the rear gallery instrument was very French in style and that the quality of sound was excellent. The problems were in the action and chests? <br> <br> HD<br> </html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_130355400= =3D=3D_.ALT--