PipeChat Digest #2050 - Monday, April 23, 2001
 
Re: Unfriendly Churches
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
EVERYONE READ Re: Arthur's predispositions.....
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Scott / Bud / Pneumonia
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: choral rehearsal chairs (X-posted; slightly off-topic, maybe)
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
argue?
  by <ALamirande@aol.com>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: EVERYONE READ Re: Arthur's predispositions.....
  by <CVStanford@aol.com>
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Managing Combination Actions
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
St. Thomas, Gil Adams, and Tony Bufano
  by <ahremsen40@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Unfriendly Churches From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:36:14 EDT     --part1_9e.13533f75.2816247e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/23/01 1:36:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, StatRussell@aol.com writes:     > We have a ton of them (churches) out here (California) and > they make the Puritans seems ostentacious by comparison. Very bland > buildings, purposeful, but bland. Well I guess I'll never get a "Temple =   > Recommend" for these comments. Give me Gothic anytime. At least it has =   > life. Maybe we can stick desertBob's "super scoop of fries Facade" = inside > each of these buildings. That would at least make people talk if = nothing > else. > >   Believe me, you don't need to do anything to get Mormon's to talk in = church. I used to play in one and it ain't quiet! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_9e.13533f75.2816247e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/23/01 1:36:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>StatRussell@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">We have a ton of = them (churches) out here (California) and <BR>they make the Puritans seems ostentacious by comparison. &nbsp;Very = bland <BR>buildings, purposeful, but bland. &nbsp;Well I guess I'll never get a = "Temple <BR>Recommend" for these comments. &nbsp;Give me Gothic anytime. &nbsp;At = least it has <BR>life. &nbsp;Maybe we can stick desertBob's "super scoop of fries = Facade" inside <BR>each of these buildings. &nbsp;That would at least make people talk if = nothing <BR>else. <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Believe me, you don't need to do anything to get Mormon's to talk in = church. &nbsp; <BR>I used to play in one and it ain't quiet! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_9e.13533f75.2816247e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: EVERYONE READ Re: Arthur's predispositions..... From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:38:11 -0500   Ladies and gentlemen,   May I take this opportunity to remind everyone that we will ABSOLUTELY NOT tolerate on-list discussion of fellow Listmembers and/or any of their perceived attributes, unless in a undeniably positive fashion.   Such communications will be taken as "flames", and appropriate actions = will be taken accordingly.   This thread is to end IMMEDIATELY.   Tim Bovard Pipechat Co-Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> <tmbovard@arkansas.net>            
(back) Subject: Scott / Bud / Pneumonia From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:55:09 -0700     --------------64747E4C9870CEEE4C35026E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Scott - 'tis the season ... I have pneumonia also. Take care of yourself!   Cheers,   Bud   ScottFop@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 4/22/01 11:27:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > ALamirande@aol.com writes: > > >> I went to St. Thomas Episcopal Church on fashionable 5th Avenue in >> New York >> this afternoon, expecting to hear our colleague Scott Foppiano. >> Alas, it transpired that Scott is seriously ill. And so was unable >> to >> appear. >> Those who believe in prayer will want to pray for his speedy >> recovery. >> Those who don't will just have to hope that he gets better. > > I would like to thank Arthur and each of you who have written me with > support > and good wishes regarding my recovery from illness. I began feeling > bad > early in Holy Week, and attributed it to a cold and sinus, and general > > fatigue from the events of the week. As the days progressed I got > worse > until on Holy Saturday I called my doctor's answering service. His > associate > called in something to get me through the weekend but would not > proscribe an > antibiotic without seeing me. Needless to say, on Holy Saturday > afternoon at > 1, I did not have time to go to the doctor's. I made it through the > Great > Easter Vigil and Easter Day and then came home and crashed. Monday I > went in > and found out that I had walking pneumonia on top of bronchitis. > YUK! So, > he hit me with some pretty heavy medication and I slept most of last > week. > > I am sorry I missed the recital. When I called Gerre Hancock to > explain he > said to recover quickly and get all better and that I would definitely > be > rescheduled. Thank you all again for the well wishes. Things are > MUCH > better now though I still have a ways to go. I think that had I made > the > trip I might have relapsed. > > Scott   --------------64747E4C9870CEEE4C35026E Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Scott - 'tis the season ... I have pneumonia also. Take care of yourself! <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <p>ScottFop@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font = color=3D"#0000A0"><font size=3D-1>In a message dated 4/22/01 11:27:33 PM Eastern Daylight = Time,</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>ALamirande@aol.com writes:</font></font></font> <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>I went to St. Thomas Episcopal Church on fashionable 5th Avenue in New = York</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>this = afternoon, expecting to hear our colleague Scott Foppiano.</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Alas, it = transpired that Scott is seriously ill.&nbsp; And so was unable = to</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>appear.</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Those who = believe in prayer will want to pray for his speedy recovery.</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Those who = don't will just have to hope that he gets = better.</font></font></font></blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font size=3D-1>I = would like to thank Arthur and each of you who have written me with = support</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>and good wishes regarding my recovery from illness.&nbsp; I began feeling = bad</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>early in Holy Week, and attributed it to a cold and sinus, and = general</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font size=3D-1>fatigue from the events of the week.&nbsp; As the days progressed I got = worse</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>until on Holy Saturday I called my doctor's answering service.&nbsp; His = associate</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>called in something to get me through the weekend but would not proscribe = an</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>antibiotic without seeing me.&nbsp; Needless to say, on Holy Saturday afternoon = at</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>1, I did not have time to go to the doctor's.&nbsp; I made it through the = Great</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>Easter Vigil and Easter Day and then came home and crashed.&nbsp; Monday I went in</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>and found out that I had walking pneumonia on top of bronchitis.&nbsp; = YUK!&nbsp; So,</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>he hit me with some pretty heavy medication and I slept most of last = week.</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font size=3D-1>I = am sorry I missed the recital.&nbsp; When I called Gerre Hancock to explain he</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>said to recover quickly and get all better and that I would definitely = be</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>rescheduled.&nbsp; Thank you all again for the well wishes.&nbsp; Things are = MUCH</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>better now though I still have a ways to go.&nbsp; I think that had I made = the</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>trip I might have relapsed.</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><font color=3D"#0000A0"><font = size=3D-1>Scott</font></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------64747E4C9870CEEE4C35026E--    
(back) Subject: Re: choral rehearsal chairs (X-posted; slightly off-topic, maybe) From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:53:26 EDT     --part1_49.a5756b6.28162886_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Bud, I worked through an outfit called "Hertz". When I go to church I'll = get their number for ya.   I pampered my choir and got nice padded, stackable types. I prefer a more =   deadened acoustic in rehearsal rooms, anyway. I think they have an = offices around country.   Neil   --part1_49.a5756b6.28162886_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bud, I worked through = an outfit called "Hertz". &nbsp;When I go to church I'll get <BR>their number for ya. <BR> <BR>I pampered my choir and got nice padded, stackable types. &nbsp;I = prefer a more <BR>deadened acoustic in rehearsal rooms, anyway. &nbsp;I think they have = an offices <BR>around country. <BR> <BR>Neil</FONT></HTML>   --part1_49.a5756b6.28162886_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:47:22 -0400   A unique and NEVER FAIL system is readily available !!!!!   It always works, never fails and is easily transportable !     It is simple to use and even an amateur can use this system without a long "learning curve".     It requires no physical connection to the console and will work with any toaster, electonic or pipe instrument.     It is called Pen and Paper !       Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:00:51 -0700 quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: > I think that is possible on newer organs (Allen and otherwise), but > this > is a used first-generation digitorg from prehistoric times (grin) > ... it > even has a CARD READER. The combination action locks with a key, but > there's no disk drive and no way to store the combinations outside > the > organ. Oh, I suppose my computer geek/chanter could come up with a > way > to attach a computer to it, but as it's an interim organ, it's not > worth > the effort. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/23/01 4:08:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > ALamirande@aol.com writes: > > > > > > > >> Solution: A computer memory system, with a lock. > >> > >> In this day and age, all organs should be equipped not only with > a > >> combination action, but also with a computer memory system > >> (lockable). > > > > > > Surprisingly, I have heard of these, but I was thinking more of > > something > > that would allow the organist to take the information with them so > > that in > > the "unlikely event" the computer fails, all is not lost. > > > > > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, > Bohawow!" > > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:11:19 -0700   I rather enjoy looking at my old music and seeing the various combinations = I jotted down, since early on in my career I was playing and practicing on some rather unusual instruments ... an Aeolian residence organ, a = Hope-Jones CHURCH (!) organ (how that found its way to Central Florida is quite = beyond me), various old E.M. Skinners, etc.   Over the years I've evolved a system whereby the pistons are always set = the same way ... in an average-size organ, how many different ways ARE there = to register a plenum?   The divisional pistons are always set up in dynamic order from softest to loudest; the last three general pistons are always (a) chant = accompaniment, (b) service music accompaniment, and (c) hymns, leaving off the louder registers to be added with the divisionals. So I always know where to find the Swell reeds (grin).   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:34:31 EDT   In a message dated 4/23/01 9:07:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << chant accompaniment, (b) service music accompaniment, and (c) hymns, leaving off the louder registers to be added with the divisionals. So I always know where to = find the Swell reeds (grin). >> Chant? Divisionals? Reeds? Huh? What? This sure is a big piano! Just push the Sfz. "button", mash down the Crescendo pedal and play with = all you've got.   Tearing out big hanks of hair: Alan B (baldy)  
(back) Subject: argue? From: <ALamirande@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:37:06 EDT     --part1_e6.149f0450.281632c2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Some bloke on this website asserts that I have a problem with = Episcopalians.   I refer you to the declaration of 1896 by Pope Leo XIII, which declared = that Anglican orders are invalid.   Who am I to argue with the Pope?   Regards,   Arthur LaMirande   P.S. Sorry if this is off-topic; but it was not I who brought up this subject.   --part1_e6.149f0450.281632c2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Some bloke on this = website asserts that I have a problem with Episcopalians. <BR> <BR>I refer you to the declaration of 1896 by Pope Leo XIII, which = declared that <BR>Anglican orders are invalid. <BR> <BR>Who am I to argue with the Pope? <BR> <BR>Regards, <BR> <BR>Arthur LaMirande <BR> <BR>P.S. &nbsp;Sorry if this is off-topic; but it was not I who brought up = this <BR>subject.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_e6.149f0450.281632c2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:40:36 -0500   O for goodness sake guys: Keep up. Card readers have been available for 25 years or so, and combination systems have been available for some years which do not require battery power to keep the memory. Roy   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > I think that is possible on newer organs (Allen and otherwise), but > this is a used first-generation digitorg from prehistoric times (grin) > ... it even has a CARD READER. The combination action locks with a > key, but there's no disk drive and no way to store the combinations > outside the organ. Oh, I suppose my computer geek/chanter could come > up with a way to attach a computer to it, but as it's an interim > organ, it's not worth the effort. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 4/23/01 4:08:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >> ALamirande@aol.com writes: >> >> >> >> > Solution: A computer memory system, with a lock. >> > >> > In this day and age, all organs should be equipped not only with a >> > combination action, but also with a computer memory system >> > (lockable). >> >> >> Surprisingly, I have heard of these, but I was thinking more of >> something >> that would allow the organist to take the information with them so >> that in >> the "unlikely event" the computer fails, all is not lost. >> >> >> Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com >> with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, >> Bohawow!" >> Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi >> Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >    
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:57:42 -0400   I have 2 such devices that I save all my combinations on for each of the different model Rodgers organs. Also if the instrument has a PR300 voice module on it, I can also load all my pistons from 1.44mb floppy   Tom      
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:24:18 -0400       TRACKELECT@cs.com wrote:     > <snip> > Just push the Sfz. "button", mash down the Crescendo pedal and play with = all > you've got. > > Tearing out big hanks of hair: > Alan B (baldy) > ----------   Mike Writes:   OOH YAAH, my kind of organist.   > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:26:06 EDT     --part1_26.147f7462.28163e3e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/23/01 5:58:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dougcampbell@juno.com writes:     > It is called Pen and Paper ! > Ball point or scribe??? (I prefer scribe myself... an excellent idea)     Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_26.147f7462.28163e3e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/23/01 5:58:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>dougcampbell@juno.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It is called Pen = and Paper ! <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Ball point or scribe??? &nbsp;(I prefer scribe = myself... an excellent idea) <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_26.147f7462.28163e3e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: EVERYONE READ Re: Arthur's predispositions..... From: <CVStanford@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:34:16 EDT   May I reply to you on this topic.....????   We all have opinions ..some very strongly held (I am in that camp)...but = the repeated bashing of the Episcopal Church is not appropriate. I guess it = was Arthur's comment on the staff of Saint George (NYC) being all gay was the last straw for me...coupled with the 3rd (possibly 4th, 5th, or 6th = attack on Saint Thomas since I have seen his "rantings").   I do not attack the Roman Catholic church on this list or = Piporg-l...civility should cut both ways....!!!!   All the best...   Robert!  
(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:36:05 -0500   SSL has had magnetic card readers available for many years. The Fisk at = SMU   has one. Roy   Roy Redman wrote:   > O for goodness sake guys: Keep up. Card readers have been available > for > 25 years or so, and combination systems have been available for some > years > which do not require battery power to keep the memory. > Roy > > quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > I think that is possible on newer organs (Allen and otherwise), but > > this is a used first-generation digitorg from prehistoric times (grin) > > ... it even has a CARD READER. The combination action locks with a > > key, but there's no disk drive and no way to store the combinations > > outside the organ. Oh, I suppose my computer geek/chanter could come > > up with a way to attach a computer to it, but as it's an interim > > organ, it's not worth the effort. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bud > > > > Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > > >> In a message dated 4/23/01 4:08:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > >> ALamirande@aol.com writes: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Solution: A computer memory system, with a lock. > >> > > >> > In this day and age, all organs should be equipped not only with a > >> > combination action, but also with a computer memory system > >> > (lockable). > >> > >> > >> Surprisingly, I have heard of these, but I was thinking more of > >> something > >> that would allow the organist to take the information with them so > >> that in > >> the "unlikely event" the computer fails, all is not lost. > >> > >> > >> Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > >> with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, > >> Bohawow!" > >> Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > >> Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Managing Combination Actions From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:39:55 EDT   Dear List Members:   As one who has always resisted anything electronic, and one who has always =   been a bit skittish about solid-state stuff (how long did my late and = beloved clock radio last?), I must say that both my shop foreman and business = manager have dragged me, kicking and screaming, into the Twentieth Century, only = to find out that THAT century was over, and I'd have to move on. So for our first contract of THIS century, we are faced with a large four-manual = organ of (now) 135 ranks, which will be used by many organists in many = capacities.   One thing that has helped is that I've managed to keep things simple; = despite the organ's size, there is not an abundance of controls at the expense of = the essentials of music. Full coupling is possible, although the floating divisions (Tuba, Orchestral String, and Echo) do not necessarily float to = ALL manuals, just where they would most logically be used, and semi-idiotic controls (Dome Mixtures with flat Sevenths to West Tower at 4-4/7') are = left off. I really object to the type of coupling system in which any division =   can be coupled to any manual at all pitches. Music isn't written that = way, and the organ loses its identity.   Although the organ is distinctly Anglo-French, we opted NOT to go for ventils, since there were ample pistons and memory levels. The decisions = was made because this is primarily a liturgical and concert organ, and will = not be used for academic purposes. Ventils are a wonderful tool of a = particular culture and era, but were not necessarily appropriate in this instance.   All controls are easily reached, and when laying out the fields of some = 140 knobs, we carefully reviewed the blueprints and elevations to make sure = that HAND REGISTRATION was given priority!!! We thought about how an organist would reach over and be able to draw all three Great Trumpets at once, or = how he could reach across and grab BOTH the Nazard and Tierce WITHOUT an unnatural rotation of the hand, etc. Of the many, many undulating ranks = in the organ, each celeste knob was placed such that it COULD be drawn with = its parent rank, with speed and comfort. In the case of the three orchestral violins (sharp-normal-flat), they can be pulled on at ONCE, BY HAND, if necessary.   Console ergonomics involves thinking about the LITERATURE, and how the = organ is USED. There is no reversible piston of the Great/Choir Transfer which switches those manuals with their pistons, nor is there one for the "North =   Triforium Celesta Dampers Off." Those can be added to generals, or to the =   two programmable pistons and studs added to the mix. There ARE = reversibles for more liturgically useful controls like the Swell to Choir coupler.   I still am in awe of the computerized system needed to control this organ, =   and I trust the engineers who have designed and built it, and the men and women of my firm who are installing it as we speak. I just scale and = voice the beast. I'll get over my nerves on this, but really hope that the art = of HAND REGISTRATION, so prized by the likes of Farnam, will continue to be taught in conservatories. When I hear of graduate students refusing to = play their juries on organs which do not have "next" pistons, I am in dispair.   And I shall still, when visiting NASA, ask of the next Mars Rover, "can't this be done pneumatically?"   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck Tonal Director GLUCK NEW YORK, Incorporated  
(back) Subject: St. Thomas, Gil Adams, and Tony Bufano From: <ahremsen40@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:41:23 EDT   Folks!   May I add my 2 cents here. The Aeolian-Skinner organs in both Riverside Church and St. Thomas were really rather poor instruments, especially St. Thomas. The regulation was crude, to say the least, with many pipes badly =   off speech. Bill Self brought in Tony Bufano and Gil Adams to do a = complete regulation of the organ which they did. These two men( along with Peter Batchelder) were the best in the business in New York. Tony had a great = ear while at the console, and Gil is a first rate voicer-finisher. The organ sounded much better but it never sounded "right." To make a long story = very short the Chancel organ was badly damaged by a flood in the Swell chamber = and that started the complete revamping of the Aeolian-Skinner. I think that = Gil produced a masterpiece there, a world class instrument which the Skinner certainly was not. The organ in the Gallery was also tonally glorious if = not the best in mechanical design. I was told the only work the Gallery organ =   needed to be functional again was that the stop actions and static = pressure reservoir needed to be releathered. What a pity it wasn't saved. As Tony = said to me one night after a recital at Riverside (He was the curator of the Riverside organs)," Gil Adams could voice a f--king soap can and make it sound like a million bucks." Amen to that says I!   Best, Allan