PipeChat Digest #2052 - Tuesday, April 24, 2001
 
Re: retrievable piston combinations
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: St. Thomas, Gil Adams, and Tony Bufano
  by <ahremsen40@aol.com>
Please Read Regarding Arthur LaMirande
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Good Old Fashioned May Processions with Organs and Choirs
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Good Old Fashioned May Processions with Organs and Choirs
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Need Help Finding CD's,Tapes
  by "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com>
Re: Professional Musicians don't need to practice...
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Please Read Regarding Arthur LaMirande
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Good Old Fashioned May Processions with Organs and Choirs
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Please Read Regarding Arthur LaMirande
  by "Claire" <fleahopper@earthlink.net>
Re: Professional Musicians don't need to practice...
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>
PIPE DREAMS NEXT
  by "R A Campbell" <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU>
 

(back) Subject: Re: retrievable piston combinations From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:09:25 +0800   The system in our pipe organ has the first memory locked in so that the combinations cannot be changed without unlocking the system. In event of computer failure the first memory still functions giving the locked in combinations. Ok thats not perfect but once I had a cable knocked out of the memory system and at least I could still use one set of combinations. Bob E.   > Surprisingly, I have heard of these, but I was thinking more of = something > that would allow the organist to take the information with = them so that in > the "unlikely event" the computer fails, all is not = lost.    
(back) Subject: Re: St. Thomas, Gil Adams, and Tony Bufano From: <ahremsen40@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:18:19 EDT   Dear Sebastian,   The water came from next door where they were building the MOMA which, as = you know, runs along the north side of St. Thomas. If memory serves me correctly, that happened on Good Friday. I could be wrong about that. If =   you were thinking that the flood was arranged it wasn't.   Best, Allan  
(back) Subject: Please Read Regarding Arthur LaMirande From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:07:07 -0500   Good morning Folks   Normally, when I remove someone from the list I don't make a public announcement about it but I am making an exception in this case. Last night I set Mr. LaMirande to NO POST status after his latest posting which insulted many of the members of the list. And this morning I got a private email at the Administration account that insulted many more members of the list. Because of this I have banned him from the list. I closed my email to him saying:   "As you may not realize, you are a GUEST of mine on this list and I will NOT allow you to insult the other members anymore. The same as I won't allow a guest in my home to insult my other guests or to insult me for my hospitality!"   In all the time that I have run this list I have never had to deal with as many private emails from members complaining about the actions of another member as I have recently. I was very leary when Mr LaMirande wrote asking how to join the list but Tim felt that we should give him a chance, that maybe he would change. Unfortunately, his actions have proved that he is past learning.   I also want to apologize to the rest of you for allowing him to rant and rave for far too long. Tim and I have had numerous discussions about Arthur, many more than I wish to remember! We wanted to give him a chance but he has proved us wrong.   I know that we have had many good people leave the list because of his diatribes and I would like to ask any of you that are in contact with some of those that have left because of him to let them know that he is gone for good. Hopefully, some of them will come back. If I had the addresses of those that left because of him I would write them myself apologizing and inviting them back.   And now let us get back to Happy PipeChatting without all the vindictiveness that has existed during this period when Arthur was bombarding us with his insults.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Good Old Fashioned May Processions with Organs and Choirs From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:57:37 EDT     --part1_db.13617ca6.2816e051_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Does anyone have an "order of service" or a checklist of what needs to be includes in such an event? Needless to say we are planning a huge May Crowning and Procession here at the National Shrine. I did this every = year as a kid but do not begin to remember what all is included. I already = have some great Marian solo organ repertoire and some fantastic choral = repertoire (a capella and with organ accompaniment). If anyone is going to suggest "Hail Mary: Gentle Woman" by Carey Landry- don't bother- it ranks right up =   there with "Eagles' Wings" in my book. I am talking legitimate repertoire =   here folks, and the order of service and what all should be included = therein.   Any advice, suggestions and facts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music and Liturgy The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son, Opus 5180, 1933) "Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens: fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar."     --part1_db.13617ca6.2816e051_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Does anyone have an = "order of service" or a checklist of what needs to be <BR>includes in such an event? &nbsp;Needless to say we are planning a = huge May <BR>Crowning and Procession here at the National Shrine. &nbsp;I did this = every year <BR>as a kid but do not begin to remember what all is included. &nbsp;I = already have <BR>some great Marian solo organ repertoire and some fantastic choral = repertoire <BR>(a capella and with organ accompaniment). &nbsp;If anyone is going to = suggest <BR>"Hail Mary: Gentle Woman" by Carey Landry- don't bother- it ranks = right up <BR>there with "Eagles' Wings" in my book. &nbsp;I am talking legitimate = repertoire <BR>here folks, and the order of service and what all should be included = therein. <BR>&nbsp; <BR> <BR>Any advice, suggestions and facts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks = in <BR>advance. <BR> <BR><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music and = Liturgy <BR>The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR><I>"Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens: <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar."</I> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_db.13617ca6.2816e051_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Good Old Fashioned May Processions with Organs and Choirs From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:17:38 -0700     --------------F103D6693443BDD0D3DFE95C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Scott - about all I remember about it was singing endless verses of "Immaculate Mary" in Italian (grin) ... we went through the STREETS of Holy Rosary Parish ... and flower girls throwing rose petals in front of the statue of the Virgin. All that year's First Communion kids marched, all the parish organizations with their banners, the choirs, and a brass band (grin) ... but I don't remember there being anything like a formal order of service ... I think we started with Mass of the BVM in the church at noon on a Saturday, marched through the streets the better part of the afternoon, and ended up back in the church with Solemn Vespers and Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament. I DO remember that the Sacrament was NOT carried in the procession, just the statute of Our Lady. In between verses of "Immaculate Mary", we said the Rosary ... like, we started a new set of Mysteries every time we started up a new street.   If you're NOT going outside, you might look at one of the Mozart Litaniae Lauretaniae (sp?) for singing during the procession. I think one of them calls for just strings, the other for trumpets and timpani as well. They're easy, and VERY festive. Also the Mozart Dominical Vespers if you end with Vespers. And if you have Benediction, you MUST do the Mozart Tantum ergo in D (grin) ... GREAT fun, and anti Vatican II enough to make the "deformers' " HAIR stand on end (grin). There are also a bunch of misc. Mozart anthems to the BVM ... Sancta Maria, Regina Coeli, etc.   Sounds like a good excuse for a Mozart festival to me (grin) ...   Cheers,   Bud     ScottFop@aol.com wrote:   > Does anyone have an "order of service" or a checklist of what needs to > be > includes in such an event? Needless to say we are planning a huge May > > Crowning and Procession here at the National Shrine. I did this every > year > as a kid but do not begin to remember what all is included. I already > have > some great Marian solo organ repertoire and some fantastic choral > repertoire > (a capella and with organ accompaniment). If anyone is going to > suggest > "Hail Mary: Gentle Woman" by Carey Landry- don't bother- it ranks > right up > there with "Eagles' Wings" in my book. I am talking legitimate > repertoire > here folks, and the order of service and what all should be included > therein. > > > Any advice, suggestions and facts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks > in > advance. > > SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music and > Liturgy > The National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI > (Geo. Kilgen & Son, Opus 5180, 1933) > "Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens: > fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar."   --------------F103D6693443BDD0D3DFE95C Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Scott - about all I remember about it was singing endless verses of = "Immaculate Mary" in Italian (grin) ... we went through the STREETS of Holy Rosary Parish ... and flower girls throwing rose petals in front of the statue of the Virgin. All that year's First Communion kids marched, all the = parish organizations with their banners, the choirs, and a brass band (grin) ... but I don't remember there being anything like a formal order of service .... I think we started with Mass of the BVM in the church at noon on a Saturday, marched through the streets the better part of the afternoon, and ended up back in the church with Solemn Vespers and Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament. I DO remember that the Sacrament was NOT carried in the procession, just the statute of Our Lady. In between verses of = "Immaculate Mary", we said the Rosary ... like, we started a new set of Mysteries = every time we started up a new street. <p>If you're NOT going outside, you might look at one of the Mozart = Litaniae Lauretaniae (sp?) for singing during the procession. I think one of them calls for just strings, the other for trumpets and timpani as well. = They're easy, and VERY festive. Also the Mozart Dominical Vespers if you end with Vespers. And if you have Benediction, you MUST do the Mozart Tantum ergo in D (grin) ... GREAT fun, and anti Vatican II enough to make the = "deformers' " HAIR stand on end (grin). There are also a bunch of misc. Mozart anthems to the BVM ... Sancta Maria, Regina Coeli, etc. <p>Sounds like a good excuse for a Mozart festival to me (grin) ... <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <br>&nbsp; <p>ScottFop@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font = size=3D-1>Does anyone have an "order of service" or a checklist of what needs to = be</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>includes in such an = event?&nbsp; Needless to say we are planning a huge May</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Crowning and Procession here at the National Shrine.&nbsp; I did this every year</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>as a kid but do not = begin to remember what all is included.&nbsp; I already have</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>some great Marian solo = organ repertoire and some fantastic choral repertoire</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>(a capella and with = organ accompaniment).&nbsp; If anyone is going to suggest</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>"Hail Mary: Gentle = Woman" by Carey Landry- don't bother- it ranks right up</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>there with "Eagles' = Wings" in my book.&nbsp; I am talking legitimate repertoire</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>here folks, and the = order of service and what all should be included therein.</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Any advice, suggestions = and facts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>advance.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1><b>SCOTT F. = FOPPIANO</b>, Principal Organist and Director of Music and Liturgy</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>The National Shrine of = the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son, Opus 5180, 1933)</font></font> <br><i><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>"Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens:</font></font></i> <br><i><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>fiat cor meum = immaculatum ut non confundar."</font></font></i></blockquote> </html>   --------------F103D6693443BDD0D3DFE95C--    
(back) Subject: Need Help Finding CD's,Tapes From: "Cindy Adams" <piperheaven@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:24:02 -0700 (PDT)   Hi List,   This is a piano/organ question combined. I have tons of CD's of classical piano music and have started building a collection of organ music.   My problem is that I will hear a piece on a CD and want to learn to play the piece. I look through all of my tons of music....of course that selection is nowhere to be found! (local music store...not much help-although I have been searching in a different music store that has a knowledgable staff when it comes to music)   I know that as my knowledge of the organ increases, I will want to find music for pieces I have heard on CD.   Does anyone have any suggestions? I am aware of Sheet Music's website but cannot seem to find the pieces I am looking for.   It is very frustrating to want to learn a piece that I love and then not be able to find the music.   I also have the reverse problem in that I have tons of music and want to hear how specific rhythms are played or just how the piece sounds overall....and well...you guessed it...I can't find the music on a CD.   Thanks for any help   Cindy   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Professional Musicians don't need to practice... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:24:09 EDT     --part1_b8.149bd622.2816f499_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/23/01 11:48:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = pab@inreach.com writes:     > Not our choir director. He comes in Wednesday night, picks out what he > wants the choir to sing and hands it to me. We practice it and it has = to > be performed the coming Sunday. (And he doesn't get paid) >   And it's well-deserved, too!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_b8.149bd622.2816f499_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/23/01 11:48:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pab@inreach.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Not our choir = director. &nbsp;He comes in Wednesday night, picks out what he <BR>wants the choir to sing and hands it to me. &nbsp;We practice it and = it has to <BR>be performed the coming Sunday. &nbsp;(And he doesn't get paid) <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>And it's well-deserved, too!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b8.149bd622.2816f499_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Please Read Regarding Arthur LaMirande From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:56:24 EDT     --part1_a7.dd34bd8.2816fc28_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/24/01 6:07:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, admin@pipechat.org writes:     > Normally, when I remove someone from the list I don't make a public > announcement about it but I am making an exception in this case. > Last night I set Mr. LaMirande to NO POST status after his latest > posting which insulted many of the members of the list. And this > morning I got a private email at the Administration account that > insulted many more members of the list. Because of this I have > banned him from the list.   It is amazing that supposedly mature adults are so thin-skinned that they cannot either ignore or deal with an, admittedly, (for lack of a better = word) outrageous personality as Arthur. I find it somewhat humerous, but a = small price to pay for this encyclopedic knowledge and great help that he has = been to many of us. There are others on the list that I find much more = annoying and far less informative, but that is why God invented the "delete" = button. Many of the responses to Arthur's posts were over-reactions and = unjustified, but even more appalling is the amount of behind the scenes whining that apparently goes on, especially from people who generally do not post. = I'm often amused when someone posts a note saying that they have "had enough = and am leaving the list", and I've never seen their name or e-mail address in print. It is especially saddening that the very people who demand = respect, truth and freedom of speech will not grant the same to others.     Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_a7.dd34bd8.2816fc28_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/24/01 6:07:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>admin@pipechat.org writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Normally, when I = remove someone from the list I don't make a public <BR>announcement about it but I am making an exception in this case. <BR>Last night I set Mr. LaMirande to NO POST status after his latest <BR>posting which insulted many of the members of the list. &nbsp;And this =   <BR>morning I got a private email at the Administration account that <BR>insulted many more members of the list. &nbsp;Because of this I have <BR>banned him from the list. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>It is amazing that supposedly mature adults are so thin-skinned that = they <BR>cannot either ignore or deal with an, admittedly, (for lack of a = better word) <BR>outrageous personality as Arthur. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I find it somewhat = humerous, but a small <BR>price to pay for this encyclopedic knowledge and great help that he = has been <BR>to many of us. &nbsp;&nbsp;There are others on the list that I find = much more annoying <BR>and far less informative, but that is why God invented the "delete" = button. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;Many of the responses to Arthur's posts were over-reactions and = unjustified, <BR>but even more appalling is the amount of behind the scenes whining = that <BR>apparently goes on, especially from people who generally do not post. = &nbsp;&nbsp;I'm <BR>often amused when someone posts a note saying that they have "had = enough and <BR>am leaving the list", and I've never seen their name or e-mail address = in <BR>print. &nbsp;&nbsp;It is especially saddening that the very people who = demand respect, <BR>truth and freedom of speech will not grant the same to others. <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a7.dd34bd8.2816fc28_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Good Old Fashioned May Processions with Organs and Choirs From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:07:00 EDT     --part1_b8.149bd62b.2816fea4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/24/01 6:58:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, = ScottFop@aol.com writes:     > Does anyone have an "order of service" or a checklist of what needs to = be > includes in such an event?   Assuming this is this like lessons and carols, or procession with carols. = It this to be done inside only? Ours was always done at the outside grotto. = This is one of the things I really miss from my RC days (except for the gittarz, of course!).   Just some logistical questions: Are the more than one places for stations.... multiple Marion shrines or statues?   I'm sure that there are many specific regional lovely folk songs = associated with the various visitations/appearances of the Blessed Mother. I would suggest visiting various websites dedicated to these appearances for = ideas; perhaps some of the shrines have websites with contacts for their = musicians.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_b8.149bd62b.2816fea4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/24/01 6:58:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ScottFop@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Does anyone have = an "order of service" or a checklist of what needs to be <BR>includes in such an event? &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Assuming this is this like lessons and carols, or procession with = carols. &nbsp;It <BR>this to be done inside only? &nbsp;&nbsp;Ours was always done at the = outside grotto. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>This is one of the things I really miss from my RC days (except for = the <BR>gittarz, of course!). <BR> <BR>Just some logistical questions: <BR>Are the more than one places for stations.... multiple Marion shrines = or <BR>statues? <BR> <BR>I'm sure that there are many specific regional lovely folk songs = associated <BR>with the various visitations/appearances of the Blessed Mother. = &nbsp;&nbsp;I would <BR>suggest visiting various websites dedicated to these appearances for = ideas; <BR>perhaps some of the shrines have websites with contacts for their = musicians. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b8.149bd62b.2816fea4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Please Read Regarding Arthur LaMirande From: "Claire" <fleahopper@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:24:20 -0400   Bruce wrote: major snips here: > invented the "delete" button. ..... It is amazing that supposedly mature adults are so thin-skinned that they cannot either ignore or deal with an, admittedly, (for lack of a better = word) outrageous personality as Arthur..... > It is especially saddening that the very people who demand respect, >truth and freedom of speech will not grant the same to others.     I don't post often, but do use the delete button a lot - & I do feel that as mature adults, most of us wouldn't act this way face to face as guests in someone elses' home. I do side with the list owners when they say that this list is like = their home - people who come here should respect that & be well-mannered (that doesn't mean we can't have good discussions & disagreements) - I don't = feel that this is a ' freedom of speech' issue - if someone wants that - I politely suggest that they get their own soapbox somewhere - those that choose to listen have every right - as long as it's a public place.   My thanks to both David & Tim for the massive amount of work they take on just so we can have this list. Lets not abuse their hospitality. Claire    
(back) Subject: Re: Professional Musicians don't need to practice... From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:07:15 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3070958835_8584532 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   I once saw an interview with Artur Rubenstein, by then quite elderly, = which has stayed with me ever since.   Rubenstein was asked if, after all the years of concert performance, he still needed to practice.   He replied that he tried to practice a regular four hours each day but did not always achieve his goal. However, he said, =3DB3If I miss one day of practice, I can notice it in my performance; if I miss two days, the = critic=3D s notice; but if I miss three days, the audience notices.=3DB2   Russ Greene   --B_3070958835_8584532 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Professional Musicians don't need to practice...</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Helvetica">I once saw an interview with Artur Rubenstein, = by th=3D en quite elderly, which has stayed with me ever since.<BR> <BR> Rubenstein was asked if, after all the years of concert performance, he = sti=3D ll needed to practice.<BR> <BR> He replied that he tried to practice a regular four hours each day but did = =3D not always achieve his goal. However, he said, &#8220;If I miss one day of = p=3D ractice, I can notice it in my performance; if I miss two days, the = critics =3D notice; but if I miss three days, the audience notices.&#8221;<BR> <BR> Russ Greene</FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3070958835_8584532--    
(back) Subject: PIPE DREAMS NEXT From: "R A Campbell" <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:24:00 -0700 (MST)   No it is not heard here in Tucson. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^= *^*^ R. A. Campbell, KUAT Communications-Modern Languages Building P.O.Box = 210067 University of Arizona, Tucson AZ 85721 on the www: http://kuat.org