PipeChat Digest #2062 - Friday, April 27, 2001
 
Re: One Man's Rose Is......................
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: One Man's Rose Is......................
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs!
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: mp3
  by "Kevin Saky" <kevin@nivek.com>
Psalmody in the RC church
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs!
  by "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net>
Re: Tubes for Allen Organs
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: [cross-posted] Concert announce - Lewisville,TX
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: mp3
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: One Man's Rose Is......................
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Picking on Carlo?
  by <StatRussell@aol.com>
Re: [cross-posted] Concert announce - Lewisville,TX
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Managing Combination Actions
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Picking on Carlo?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Taps
  by <LKamp11030@aol.com>
Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs!
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Need info on origin of "TAPS"
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Upcoming Concert
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Trompetta reals for Kilgen organs!
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: [cross-posted] Concert announce - Lewisville,TX
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: One Man's Rose Is...................... From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:55:53 EDT   Ok Bob:   Let's pick on Carlo, You first!   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: One Man's Rose Is...................... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:05:52 -0400   okay everyone. Make it good, I need a good laugh. If you're going to pick = at me, at least do a good job. *LOL*   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs! From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:18:00 EDT   Hi Scott and Bruce:   I believe there is in developement a set of digital stops for Kilgen organs especially to remedy the lack of guitar timbres on these organs. For the Spirit of Vatican II Challenged. They play at 16' 8' and 4' with a strum feature for those off moment urges during the priest's quiet time at Mass! I believe on automatic they can play Michael Row Your Boat Ashore, and They'll Know We Are Christians By Our Love.   Now placing my fire proof Armour on with my Flame Proof Shield!   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: RE: mp3 From: "Kevin Saky" <kevin@nivek.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:36:42 -0400   Try this link:   http://www.mp3.com   It's a good place to start.   Kevin Saky Buffalo, NY   ---- Original Message ---- From: organist@total.net To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: RE: mp3 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:15:05 -0400   >where's the best place for me to put my mp3's so people can go >listen to >them? > >Carlo > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related >topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > Kevin Saky "Accept the challenges, so that you may feel the exhilaration of victory." - Gen George S. Patton    
(back) Subject: Psalmody in the RC church From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:46:43 -0700   Isn't the problem not what Vatican !! actually allows, but rather the priests and liturgy committees who have locked themselves into the "canned" liturgies of the various missalette publishers?   For instance: the post-Vatican !! Graduale Romanum from Solesmes (1975), the OFFICIAL *Latin* chant book of the Novus Ordo, gives the Psalm references for the Introit, Lesson Chants, OFFERTORY (which has VANISHED from the American books) and Communion; the LATIN rubrics TELL you that you're free to restored the complete Psalm in ALL cases.   Most American pastors would FLIP if you did, though.   The post-Vatican !! liturgy DOES admit of some choices; OCP and others obviously make choices that their marketing departments feel will SELL, sadly.   The other problem, of course, is that the average RC parish is still HUGE by anybody ELSE'S standards. When you have to celebrate Sunday Mass at 6-7:30-9-10:30-12 and 5 & 7 p.m. (plus one or two vigil Masses on Saturday) in order to accommodate the congregation, you're NOT going to do a whole lot with the liturgy, PARTICULARLY with the requirement that at LEAST the acclamations be sung at ALL Sunday Masses.   There are a lot more full-time RC jobs these days, but most of them involve being chained to the console for endless hours on the weekends. That in and of itself militates against doing anything creative, because of sheer exhaustion. And understandably musicians don't get much sympathy from the priests ... what few are left have to say three, four, five and six Masses on a Sunday, at least in this part of the U.S.   The few RC places I'VE seen that do good liturgy are (1) small to medium sized (2) create their own liturgical materials and (3) are mostly formal or intentional communities, rather than parish churches. That's not SO different from pre-Vatican !! ... what you saw and heard in a Benedictine or Trappist abbey back then was LIGHT YEARS away from what went on in the average parish church.   There were always a FEW "high churches" around and about ... the late Ted Marier's parish in Boston, Corpus Christi in NYC, the Paulist Choristers' church in NYC, Old St. Mary's and the cathedral in Cincinnati (at least until the latter's choir school closed in the 1960s), a few of the German-American parishes attached to Benedictine abbeys across the Upper Midwest, etc., but they were few and far between when compared to the percentage of anglo-catholic parishes with good liturgy and music in the Episcopal Church (for instance).   That brings up ANOTHER problem: there wasn't all THAT much to build on when Vatican !! happened. There was very little congregational singing, except for the "moldy oldie" Marian hymns listed recently for May Crowning, O Salutaris and Tantum ergo at Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament, Holy God (for EVERYTHING), and that was about IT.   Organs tended to be small ... how many parishes in the Midwest had 4-rank Moller, Wicks, Kimball and Kilgen "box organs" in churches that seated 1000+ ? Organists had no EXPERIENCE of leading congregational singing; but even if they DID, they didn't have anything to lead it WITH.   Hammond and Baldwin swept through the Midwest in successive waves ... a lot of the old "box organs" were replaced with C-3s and Model 5s. Some are still there. Ever tried to play a hymn on a Baldwin Model 5 (grin)?   One Cleveland pastor's response to Vatican !! was to buy four Leslie cabinets for his C-3 ... that was supposed to make everything hunky-dory (!).   I fought the good fight in the RC church from 1962 until 1976 ... then I gave up and went back to the Anglicans (grin).   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs! From: "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:59:55 -0400   Don't forget "Kumbah Ya, My Lord".   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Hi Scott and Bruce: > > I believe there is in developement a set of digital stops for Kilgen > organs especially to remedy the lack of guitar timbres on these organs. > For the Spirit of Vatican II Challenged. They play at 16' 8' and 4' with > a strum feature for those off moment urges during the priest's quiet > time at Mass! I believe on automatic they can play Michael Row > Your Boat Ashore, and They'll Know We Are Christians By Our Love. > > Now placing my fire proof Armour on with my Flame Proof Shield! > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Tubes for Allen Organs From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:38:15 -0700   At 09:59 4/27/2001 -0400, you wrote: >I swear by Antique Electronic Supply. www.tubesandmore.com<snip>   John's correct. AES is one of the better suppliers in the country at this =   time.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: [cross-posted] Concert announce - Lewisville,TX From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:39:40 -0700   At 09:02 4/27/2001 -0500, you wrote: >There will be a covered dish dinner in the Family Life Center following >the concert.<snipo>   But...if it's covered...how do you eat it??   Is the "FLC" what the Methodists used to call a "fellowship hall"?   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: mp3 From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:00:49 -0700   At 12:15 4/27/2001 -0400, Carlo wrote: >where's the best place for me to put my mp3's so people can go listen to >them?<snip>   Did you hear Arthur's clips? Perhaps THAT would be a good place?   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: One Man's Rose Is...................... From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:02:15 -0700   At 12:55 4/27/2001 -0400, Ron Severin wrote: >Ok Bob: > >Let's pick on Carlo, You first!<snip>   SERVICE! <whack!>    
(back) Subject: Re: Picking on Carlo? From: <StatRussell@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:32:35 EDT     --part1_5a.149dfaf0.281b1543_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Carlo, come on....Bob picks on you? Never in my widest dreams.................He'll probably pick on me now! By the way, you're =   right, they are old as dirt and that's almost older than me!!!   Dennis   --part1_5a.149dfaf0.281b1543_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Carlo, come on....Bob = picks on you? &nbsp;Never in my widest <BR>dreams.................He'll probably pick on me now! &nbsp;&nbsp;By = the way, you're <BR>right, they are old as dirt and that's almost older than me!!! = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_5a.149dfaf0.281b1543_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [cross-posted] Concert announce - Lewisville,TX From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:45:21 -0500   Yea - but it is bigger and has basketball goals at each end......   I guess that is why the dinner is covered - so the ball will bounce off. ;-)   Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 09:02 4/27/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >There will be a covered dish dinner in the Family Life Center following > >the concert.<snipo> > > But...if it's covered...how do you eat it?? > > Is the "FLC" what the Methodists used to call a "fellowship hall"? > > dB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Managing Combination Actions From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:28:15 -0700   At 23:39 4/23/2001 -0400, you wrote: >As one who has always resisted anything electronic, and one who has always= =20 >been a bit skittish about solid-state stuff <snip> I still am in awe of=20 >the computerized system needed to control this organ, >and I trust the engineers who have designed and built it, and the men and= =20 >women of my firm who are installing it as we speak. I just scale and=20 >voice the beast. <snip>   The knee jerking in the organ world against modern technology continues=20 unabated, as witnessed here. All the talk of "card readers" and "battery=20 failure" is utter rubbish; those technologies are long dead, replaced by=20 floppy disks and EE-PROMS. True, the older technologies are still around,= =20 but should never be considered for new installations or rebuilds.   >I'll get over my nerves on this, but really hope that the art of HAND=20 >REGISTRATION, so prized by the likes of Farnam, will continue to be taught= =20 >in conservatories.<snipo>   True enough, although consoles that provided an easy means to do=20 "on-the-fly" registration changes have been poo-poohed by the "organ elite"= =20 since Hope-Jones brought out the superior "horseshoe" consoles in=20 1910. Drawknobs, indeed...silly foppery! There is NO logical explanation= =20 that they still exist, except in silly "fad" organs that seem to be in=20 favor these days that require them for their hopelessly obsolete and=20 finnicky tracker/slider architecture.   >And I shall still, when visiting NASA, ask of the next Mars Rover, "can't= =20 >this be done pneumatically?"<snip>   No. Get with the program. Pneumatic motors are wasteful of energy and=20 materials, require expensive maintenance over a period of years, and are=20 obsolete. The future is in electromechanical action, getting rid of all=20 those herds' worth of leather and using space program materials, such as=20 DuPont's Teflon=AE, for high durability, low maintenance actions. = Continuing=20 to adhere to 19th century principles of action will only doom the organ=20 more quickly, and hasten its replacement by the electronic poseur, which is= =20 ever-improving. Rich churches that can afford overpriced anachronisms=20 continue to shrink in number, and with them, these obsolete concepts of= design.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Picking on Carlo? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:55:23 -0700   At 14:32 4/27/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Never in my widest dreams.................He'll probably pick on me = now!<snip>   ....sounds line an invitation to me...   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Taps From: <LKamp11030@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:03:31 EDT   As far as I recall, "Taps" was attributed to the Civil War Union officer Daniel Butterfield who used bugle calls for his divisions to avoid = confusion of responding to wrong orders in battle. The attribution is not always = agreed upon however, and I believe there at least a couple other possible = sources. Kind of like "who invented pizza?" Butterfield may have had help from a company bugler named Owens in the actual composition of the tune. Check = out Butterfield references on many web pages for lots of info on him and the disputed tune.     Larry R. Kamp, Music Director Belleville Church Newburyport, MA  
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs! From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:05:15 EDT     --part1_63.15465165.281b2afb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   In a message dated 4/27/01 1:19:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=3D20 RonSeverin@aol.com writes:     > I believe there is in developement a set of digital stops for Kilgen > organs especially to remedy the lack of guitar timbres on these organs. > For the Spirit of Vatican II Challenged. They play at 16' 8' and 4' with > a strum feature for those off moment urges during the priest's quiet > time at Mass! I believe on automatic they can play Michael Row > Your Boat Ashore, and They'll Know We Are Christians By Our Love. >=3D20   Gee, unfortunately our consoles are maxed out with stop tabs and,=3D20 regrettably, there is only enough room for the tabs we will need for the = new=3D =3D20 Tuba en chamade. Rats! And how LOVELY those geeeeeetar strums would = have=3D20 been! (Regarding the tuba- there was supposed to be a stop called = "Liturgical=3D20 Trumpet" in addition to the Solo Tuba Mirabilis which was never installed. = =3D20 So- I have mentioned this to Monsignor. Perhaps one day in the not = too=3D20 distant future........in this room it would look absolutely stunning to = have=3D =3D20 flamed copper resonators up above the opening in the organ gallery above = the=3D =3D20 Main console. Those colors mixed with this architecture would really = be=3D20 striking!)   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music and Liturgy THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son, St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) =3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens, fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D     --part1_63.15465165.281b2afb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 4/27/0=3D 1 1:19:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=3D20 <BR>RonSeverin@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I believe there is in = devel=3D opement a set of digital stops for Kilgen <BR>organs especially to remedy the lack of guitar timbres on these = organs. <BR>For the Spirit of Vatican II Challenged. They play at 16' 8' and 4' = with <BR>a strum feature for those off moment urges during the priest's quiet <BR>time at Mass! I believe on automatic they can play Michael Row <BR>Your Boat Ashore, and They'll Know We Are Christians By Our Love. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Gee, unfortunately our consoles are maxed out with stop tabs and,=3D20 <BR>regrettably, there is only enough room for the tabs we will need for = the=3D new=3D20 <BR>Tuba en chamade. &nbsp;Rats! &nbsp;And how LOVELY those geeeeeetar = strum=3D s would have=3D20 <BR>been! <BR>(Regarding the tuba- there was supposed to be a stop called = "Liturgical=3D20 <BR>Trumpet" in addition to the Solo Tuba Mirabilis which was never = installe=3D d. &nbsp; <BR>So- I have mentioned this to Monsignor. &nbsp;Perhaps one day in the = not=3D too=3D20 <BR>distant future........in this room it would look absolutely stunning = to=3D20=3D have=3D20 <BR>flamed copper resonators up above the opening in the organ gallery = above=3D the=3D20 <BR>Main console. &nbsp;Those colors mixed with this architecture would = real=3D ly be=3D20 <BR>striking!) <BR> <BR><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music and = L=3D iturgy <BR>THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son, St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR><I>=3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat = dicens, <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D</I> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_63.15465165.281b2afb_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Need info on origin of "TAPS" From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:24:13 -0500     ORGANUT@aol.com wrote:   > Hi List, > I am looking for some information on the origin of the military = tribute, > "TAPS". > It seems to me that someone posted the story about how taps came into = being, > about a year ago, I copied it, but can't seem to find it. (Senior = moment?) > My pastor is planning his memorial day sermon, and the playing of = taps and > the story behind it going to be part of that sermon. Any help would be > appreciated.   There is an urban legend floating around about a father and son fighting = on opposite sides during the civil war, which was posted on the "Church Music Discuss" list (a "Yahoo groups", which has an archive) a month and a half = ago, or so.   The post of the legend to the group also resulted in the post of a = rebuttal, which included the link   < http://www.west-point.org/taps/Taps.html >   ns    
(back) Subject: Upcoming Concert From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:41:43 EDT     --part1_50.14d6536e.281b3387_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   I have been invited to perform in concert for the Santa Barbara Theatre = Orga=3D n=3D20 Society next Saturday, May 5, at 12 noon. The concert will be at the=3D20 Arlington Theatre on State Street in downtown Santa Barbara. The organ = is=3D20 the fantastic 4/30 Robert Morton "Wonder" organ originally installed = in=3D20 Loew's theatre, Jersey City, NJ in 1928. There will also be a silent = film,=3D20 "The General," with Buster Keaton. I will also provide the organ=3D20 accompaniment for the film. Hope to see some of you there- the organ = is=3D20 definitely worth hearing and the theatre definitely worth seeing!   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music and Liturgy THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son, St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) =3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens, fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D     --part1_50.14d6536e.281b3387_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>I have been invited = to pe=3D rform in concert for the Santa Barbara Theatre Organ=3D20 <BR>Society next Saturday, May 5, at 12 noon. &nbsp;The concert will be at = t=3D he=3D20 <BR>Arlington Theatre on State Street in downtown Santa Barbara. &nbsp;The = o=3D rgan is=3D20 <BR>the fantastic 4/30 Robert Morton "Wonder" organ originally installed = in=3D20 <BR>Loew's theatre, Jersey City, NJ in 1928. &nbsp;There will also be a = sile=3D nt film,=3D20 <BR>"The General," with Buster Keaton. &nbsp;I will also provide the = organ=3D20 <BR>accompaniment for the film. &nbsp;Hope to see some of you there- the = org=3D an is=3D20 <BR>definitely worth hearing and the theatre definitely worth seeing! <BR> <BR><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music and = L=3D iturgy <BR>THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son, St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR><I>=3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat = dicens, <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D</I> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_50.14d6536e.281b3387_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Trompetta reals for Kilgen organs! From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:19:01 EDT   Hi Scott:   Now here is a place where Trompetta Reals make perfect sense. It even gets me excieted thinking about it. The Kilgen would certainly support such a stop, and the room would too.   Sorry Carlo, This stop will not work on a digital Rodgers anything, but = will work given the spaciousness of this building and the organ to support it.   This would be a spectacular venue for such a stop and Scott would know what to do with it! Go for it!   Regards,   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:14:47 EDT     --part1_b4.14c210e6.281b4957_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/27/01 10:18:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, RonSeverin@aol.com writes:     > I believe there is in developement a set of digital stops for Kilgen > organs especially to remedy the lack of guitar timbres on these organs. > For the Spirit of Vatican II Challenged. They play at 16' 8' and 4' with > a strum feature for those off moment urges during the priest's quiet > time at Mass!   If these stops are really going to be authentic this even more critical = than a metallic, amplified sound, EVEN WHEN TURNED OFF the guitar stop must periodically (without warning) engage in random tuning plucks, and with 60 =   seconds following retiring the stop there should be a hollow wooden sound like unto a guitar being accidentally hitting the floor or the side of a chair. These nuances are more critical than chiff on flutes!!! ... and =   don't forget squeaky noise from fingers sliding over steel strings!!!!   For a slight additional fee, there should also be random sounds of whispering, nose blowing and throat clearning.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_b4.14c210e6.281b4957_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/27/01 10:18:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>RonSeverin@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I believe there is = in developement a set of digital stops for Kilgen <BR>organs especially to remedy the lack of guitar timbres on these = organs. <BR>For the Spirit of Vatican II Challenged. They play at 16' 8' and 4' = with <BR>a strum feature for those off moment urges during the priest's quiet <BR>time at Mass!</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>If these stops are really going to be authentic this even more = critical than <BR>a metallic, amplified sound, &nbsp;&nbsp;EVEN WHEN TURNED OFF the = guitar stop must <BR>periodically (without warning) engage in random tuning plucks, and = with 60 <BR>seconds following retiring the stop there should be a hollow wooden = sound <BR>like unto a guitar being accidentally hitting the floor or the side of = a <BR>chair. &nbsp;&nbsp;These nuances are more critical than chiff on = flutes!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;... and <BR>don't forget squeaky noise from fingers sliding over steel strings!!!! = &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>For a slight additional fee, there should also be random sounds of <BR>whispering, nose blowing and throat clearning. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b4.14c210e6.281b4957_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [cross-posted] Concert announce - Lewisville,TX From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:20:12 EDT     --part1_a7.df31fdd.281b4a9c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/27/01 11:07:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:     > Is the "FLC" what the Methodists used to call a "fellowship hall"? > >   Nah! All the one's I've seen were gyms! It's actually a great idea. = It relieves the sanctuary of the need for baskeball nets and boundary lines = in the nave!!!   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_a7.df31fdd.281b4a9c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/27/01 11:07:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>desertbob@rglobal.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Is the "FLC" what = the Methodists used to call a "fellowship hall"? <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Nah! &nbsp;&nbsp;All the one's I've seen were gyms! &nbsp;&nbsp;It's = actually a great idea. &nbsp;It <BR>relieves the sanctuary of the need for &nbsp;baskeball nets and = boundary lines in <BR>the nave!!! <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a7.df31fdd.281b4a9c_boundary--