PipeChat Digest #2063 - Saturday, April 28, 2001
 
Re: Managing Combination Actions
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: mp3
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Pneumatic
  by "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net>
Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs!
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Summer Choir with Organ Accompaniment
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Re: Managing Combination Actions
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
Re: Arthur LaMirande's MP3 clips
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs!
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Pneumatic
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Organ MP3's
  by "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Re: Arthur LaMirande's MP3 clips
  by "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net>
Napster
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Napster
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Napster
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
my mp3's
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Managing Combination Actions
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Managing Combination Actions From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:30:17 EDT     --part1_96.13731410.281b4cf9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/27/01 1:03:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:     > The knee jerking in the organ world against modern technology continues > unabated, as witnessed here.   yada yada yada, blah blah blah...... etc   Thanks for this marvelous exposition of the desire of many to keep pipe organs in the category of musical instruments. It is most valuable information and I have printed out out in multiple copies and will be distributing it to my various rose bushes and azaleas. They will benefit greatly from it.   BBBBBBBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_96.13731410.281b4cf9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/27/01 1:03:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>desertbob@rglobal.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The knee jerking = in the organ world against modern technology continues <BR>unabated, as witnessed here. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>yada yada yada, blah blah blah...... etc <BR> <BR>Thanks for this marvelous exposition of the desire of many to keep = pipe <BR>organs in the category of musical instruments. &nbsp;It is most = valuable <BR>information and I have printed out out in multiple copies and will be <BR>distributing it to my various rose bushes and azaleas. &nbsp;They will = benefit <BR>greatly from it. <BR> <BR>BBBBBBBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_96.13731410.281b4cf9_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: mp3 From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:03:33 -0400       Carlo Pietroniro wrote: > > where's the best place for me to put my mp3's so people can go listen to > them? > > Carlo   Napster. If you are not having them blocked, you have a worldwide audience.   Stam  
(back) Subject: Pneumatic From: "Patricia/Thomas Gregory" <tgregory@speeddial.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:45:24 -0500   > No. Get with the program. Pneumatic motors are wasteful of energy and > materials, require expensive maintenance over a period of years, and are > obsolete. The future is in electromechanical action, getting rid of all > those herds' worth of leather and using space program materials, such as > DuPont's Teflon=AE, for high durability, low maintenance actions. Continui= ng > to adhere to 19th century principles of action will only doom the organ > more quickly, and hasten its replacement by the electronic poseur, which = is > ever-improving. Rich churches that can afford overpriced anachronisms > continue to shrink in number, and with them, these obsolete concepts of design.   Now really Mr. Desert Bob.....   Do you have facts to back up this statement?   The swell engine(s) on our '26 E.M. Skinner (op.592) are still running strong with no noticeable wear on the 16 stage engines.   How many new solid state swell engines (with DuPOnt Teflon) will still be operating in 2075?   Have a nice day (& weekend).   Sincerely,   Tom Gregory       -- Thomas and Patricia Gregory 716 West College Avenue Waukesha WI USA 53186-4569  
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs! From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:55:37 -0500     --------------34202311C2E505F2F639FE9C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   ScottFop@aol.com wrote:   > Perhaps one day in the not too > distant future........in this room it would look absolutely > stunning to have > flamed copper resonators up above the opening in the organ > gallery above the > Main console. Those colors mixed with this architecture would > really be > striking!)   I have never really felt the same about flamed copper since I discovered how it is done. The copper is heated and then treated with a urea solution. Harmless enough. But then urea is a constituent of human urine, and I gather that the traditional way to do it was to fill the employees with large quantities of beer, heat up the pipes, line the employees up, and then ... Well, you get my drift. At QPO one of our co-wrokers apprenticed with Flentrop in Holland, and he tells me that when he was there they still did it the traditional way.   John Speller   --------------34202311C2E505F2F639FE9C Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> ScottFop@aol.com wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE><FONT FACE=3D"arial,helvetica"><FONT = SIZE=3D-1>&nbsp;Perhaps one day in the not too</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT FACE=3D"arial,helvetica"><FONT SIZE=3D-1>distant = future........in this room it would look absolutely stunning to have</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT FACE=3D"arial,helvetica"><FONT SIZE=3D-1>flamed copper = resonators up above the opening in the organ gallery above the</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT FACE=3D"arial,helvetica"><FONT SIZE=3D-1>Main console.&nbsp; = Those colors mixed with this architecture would really be</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT FACE=3D"arial,helvetica"><FONT = SIZE=3D-1>striking!)</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> I have never really felt the same about flamed copper since I discovered how it is done.&nbsp; The copper is heated and then treated with a urea solution.&nbsp; Harmless enough.&nbsp; But then urea is a constituent of human urine, and I gather that the traditional way to do it was to fill the employees with large quantities of beer, heat up the pipes, line the employees up, and then ... Well, you get my drift.&nbsp; At QPO one of our co-wrokers apprenticed with Flentrop in Holland, and he tells me that when he was there they still did it the traditional way. <P>John Speller</HTML>   --------------34202311C2E505F2F639FE9C--    
(back) Subject: Re: Summer Choir with Organ Accompaniment From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:00:50 EDT   In a message dated 4/26/01 12:47:28 PM Central Daylight Time, ScottFop@aol.com writes:   << Here in this part of the USA choirs stop singing for the summer and = things get rather "dead" >>   That's why we have a PDQ Bach festival in the summer. ;o)   Just a thought... Mandy  
(back) Subject: Re: Managing Combination Actions From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:21:42 -0400   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_10254625= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   At 06:30 PM 4/27/2001 -0400, Brewse wrote: >It is most valuable >information and I have printed out out in multiple copies and will be >distributing it to my various rose bushes and azaleas. They will benefit >greatly from it. > >BBBBBBBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA   And THAT (^^^^^^^) is PRECISELY why we need you (yes, YOU, Bruce!!) in the list's bi-weekly IRC sessions!! *absolutely huge devilish =   grin*   There's a chat ongoing right this minute (and every Fri/Mon 9pm eastern till beddybyes), and directions are up at = www.pipechat.org/irc.html .. Grab the "connect via the web" option to try it out on the spot. = Don't bother installing mIRC until you're serious. ;))   Have fun! Ad ;->   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_10254625= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> At 06:30 PM 4/27/2001 -0400, Brewse wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><font size=3D2>It is most = valuable <br> information and I have printed out out in multiple copies and will be <br> distributing it to my various rose bushes and azaleas.&nbsp; They will benefit <br> greatly from it. <br> <br> BBBBBBBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA </font></blockquote><br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>And THAT (^^^^^^^) is PRECISELY why we need you (yes, YOU, Bruce!!) in the list's bi-weekly IRC sessions!!&nbsp; *absolutely huge devilish grin*<br> <br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>There's a chat ongoing right this minute (and every Fri/Mon 9pm eastern till beddybyes), and directions are up at <a href=3D"http://www.pipechat.org/irc.html" = eudora=3D"autourl">www.pipechat.org/irc.html</a> ..&nbsp; Grab the &quot;connect via the web&quot; option to try it out on = the spot.&nbsp; Don't bother installing mIRC until you're serious.&nbsp; = ;))<br> <br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Have = fun!<br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Ad&nbsp; = ;-&gt;<br> </html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_10254625= =3D=3D_.ALT--    
(back) Subject: Re: Arthur LaMirande's MP3 clips From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:25:51 -0500     -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Oakes Date: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:16 AM Subject: Arthur LaMirande's MP3 clips     >Listmates - > >Arthur's MP3 clips are elegant and beautiful. The man >can play. To access them, go to www.MP3.com, then do a >key word search by LaMirande, and he pops up.   I have downloaded his music, I agree with your statement above! He sent the information to me by email, and because of him, I downloaded the mp3, listened to his music and sent him a thank you note. (BTW does anyone else have music on mp3 that I can listen to? )     Luther     >Marilyn T. Oakes, CRC, LPC, CLCP >Certified Pain Practitioner > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs! From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:53:19 -0500   I certainly do not know how they did it at Flentrop, but Sharon Canell did some of the most beautiful flaming I have ever seen at our shop some years ago. See our website imagin.net/~rredman The copper, after being cut out, was simply laid on a sheet of fireproof material, and the flame of an oxyacetylene torch was applied until the desired color was produced. No other materials or solutions were used. Roy Redman   "John L. Speller" wrote:   > ScottFop@aol.com wrote: > >> Perhaps one day in the not too >> distant future........in this room it would look absolutely stunning >> to have >> flamed copper resonators up above the opening in the organ gallery >> above the >> Main console. Those colors mixed with this architecture would >> really be >> striking!) > > I have never really felt the same about flamed copper since I > discovered how it is done. The copper is heated and then treated with > a urea solution. Harmless enough. But then urea is a constituent of > human urine, and I gather that the traditional way to do it was to > fill the employees with large quantities of beer, heat up the pipes, > line the employees up, and then ... Well, you get my drift. At QPO > one of our co-wrokers apprenticed with Flentrop in Holland, and he > tells me that when he was there they still did it the traditional way. > > John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Pneumatic From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:14:28 -0700   At 19:45 4/27/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Do you have facts to back up this statement?<snip>   More than you could imagine.   >The swell engine(s) on our '26 E.M. Skinner (op.592) are still running=20 >strong with no noticeable wear on the 16 stage engines. > >How many new solid state swell engines (with DuPOnt Teflon) will still be= =20 >operating in 2075?<snip>   You miss the point entirely. The energy guzzled by the blower to keep=20 pneumatic power "on tap" to operate things like this is extremely high=20 compared to, say, an electric servomotor that only uses power when it is=20 operating. Suffice it to say that many electromechanical gas and liquid=20 valves used in industrial processes, such as those made by ASCO-Delta, use= =20 Telfon=AE, Viton=AE and Nylon=AE for bearing and sealing surfaces for many= orders=20 of magnitude more operations than would ever be used in a pipe organ, all=20 with little or no failure. Unfortunately, it's only been recently that=20 firms other than Wicks have been even seriously developing EM actions, and= =20 there's a LONG way to go.   To "thwack" bReWsE around a little bit, let me remind him and others that=20 the tubularpneumatic and electromagnetic actions of the late 19th century=20 were developments made directly possible by design advances made during the= =20 dawn of the Industrial Revolution, and were quite "state of the art" in=20 their time, not just in organ terms, but in terms of mechanical and=20 electrical design progress in general. Their time has long passed, as has= =20 that of trackers and sliders, and new engineering is now needed, both for=20 increased reliability and cost containment, if the instrument is to=20 survive. Most of what is faddishly popular now are exercises in=20 historically based self flagellation of ego-tripping builders, and only=20 will serve to price the organ further and further out of the realm of= reality.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Organ MP3's From: "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:49:20 -0400   More mp3's are available at mp3.com. I am aware of one in particular, Jonathan Orwig posts regularly to that site has quite a collection that are very good Seems to be a good place to put them too better than Napster   Cheers, Mack    
(back) Subject: Re: Arthur LaMirande's MP3 clips From: "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:59:29 -0400   Yes! I too vote for Arthur LaMirande's "reestablishment" on this list! I = read (and yes, many times just scan) every single posting on this = list.........daily. And from all of that reading, I fail to see the reason why Arthur L. was = banished from this list. His views and opinions were no more strongly expressed = than many still posting this very evening. In fact, I believe he was a gentleman. = The manner in which some on this list express themselves.........and I'm = speaking of choice of words, phrases.........even if just a word here, a phrase there..........is to me, at times, very inappropriate. I would think = that, on a public forum, one would be concerned how one comes across to others. What also bothers me......is that, a few months ago, I think, = someone sent a posting that referenced Arthur Lamirande somehow......I cannot = recall specifics. (This posting caused quite a stir because, while many read it, = many also missed it. And those who missed it were quite "vocal" in wanting to = know the contents of the posting.) My point is: The posting contained one = instance, one word, of vicious name-calling. I recall being shocked at seeing the = posting the first time. (One of my thoughts at that instant was: How did this = posting get past the folks who insist on respect amongst communicators, on this = list?) Arthur LaMirande , yes, certainly expressed his opinions........about = ideas, about cathedrals, about music, about organs, about organists, about the world.........but he never, ever stooped to the level occupied by the = writer of that extremely hostile posting. Arthur shared his extensive knowledge of so many things with = us. His postings were interesting, anecdotal, colorful, and well written. Now = he's gone.   The writer of that posting sent in a quick, deliberate shot = of meanness, is still very much with us: I recognize the e-mail address at = the top of his (her?) postings........seen from time to time. I hope those in the position to do so re-establish contact = with Arthur LaMirande and invite him back into our membership. Enough of us, = up to this evening, have expressed this same viewpoint. It is my opinion, that, in a public forum environment such = as this, when this scenario takes place.......that we, my friends, who are = left with the circle intact, are the real losers. -Jane Hanudel     I see the em e elegant and beautiful. The man can play. To access them, go to = www.MP3.com, then do a   > key word search by LaMirande, and he pops up. > > I guess I'm just too new to the list to apprehend the > dynamics of the controversy. I don't have a dog in > this fight. From what I've read, however, I agree with > the gentleman from Australia. Some ListServers appear > to have excessively delicate psychological > constitutions, err, positively thin-skinned. I've > worked 20 years in a world where vicious personal > attacks are the norm, not the exception, and nothing > Arthur said would even be a blip on the scale. > > A group with which I'm familiar in my other life as a > rehab counselor has a saying about keeping the focus > on principles, not personalities. That's good advice > in many settings, including this one. Another wisdom > saying I like is that one can disagree without being > disagreeable. Other favorites include: Live and let > live, and, How important is it? Even, This, too, shall > pass. C'mon, folks, lighten up!! > > Arthur might be opinionated (what organist isn't??!), > have some jagged edges (who doesn't??!) and his social > skills might need some work (whose don't??!), but he > is a treasure trove of historical information and a > gracious, elegant player. If he would consider coming > back online, then I vote him back on the Island, err, > ListServ, and as Mrs. Slocomb would say, I am > unanimous in this.<g> > > Anybody else want Arthur back on?? I've seen a few > votes already. > > Marilyn T. Oakes, CRC, LPC, CLCP > Certified Pain Practitioner > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Marilyn T. Oakes, CRC, LPC, CLCP, Certified Pain Practitioner > Rehabilitation Consultants, Inc. > P.O. Box 43254 > Birmingham, Alabama USA 35243-0254 > Web Site: www.oakes.org, email: marilyn@oakes.org -or- = marilynoakes@yahoo.com > Life Care Planning, Pediatric Life Care Planning, > Vocational Assessment, Chronic Pain Research & Consultation > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Napster From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:13:50 -0400   anyone running Napster can do a search for me, and add me to their "Hot List". My user name is "Carlo_Pietroniro". Right now, there are two mp3's there. There are more on the way.   Carlo        
(back) Subject: Re: Napster From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:29:08 EDT   Carlo-- I did a search with your name on Napster several times and it returned no results, do you know if there is a time delay for your files to become active? Thanks, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Napster From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:33:13 -0400   Roc,   I'm on Napster right now, and my files are being transferred as we speak.....   Carlo    
(back) Subject: my mp3's From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:47:25 -0400   right now, I have only two files to share, until I put in more. They are.....   Now Thank We All Our God...Bach/Fox The Rose....as sung by Isabel Julian (alto soloist)   If you have any questions regarding future pieces, please feel free to = ask. Because of copyright laws, Napster blocks certain titles, so I may have to re-name the files, like I did with "The Rose". In order for Napster not to block it, I had to call it "IsabelJulian-solo1", in other words, I had to remove the title.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Digital Stops for Kilgen organs! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 02:16:46 EDT     --part1_7b.13d8c7db.281bba4e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/27/01 6:57:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jlspeller@mindspring.com writes:     > I have never really felt the same about flamed copper since I discovered = how > it is done. The copper is heated and then treated with a urea solution. = > Harmless enough. But then urea is a constituent of human urine, and I > gather that the traditional way to do it was to fill the employees with > large quantities of beer, heat up the pipes, line the employees up, and > then ...   That's for churches that really want to have a pissy music program!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_7b.13d8c7db.281bba4e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/27/01 6:57:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>jlspeller@mindspring.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have never = really felt the same about flamed copper since I discovered how <BR>it is done. &nbsp;The copper is heated and then treated with a urea = solution. &nbsp; <BR>Harmless enough. &nbsp;But then urea is a constituent of human urine, = and I <BR>gather that the traditional way to do it was to fill the employees = with <BR>large quantities of beer, heat up the pipes, line the employees up, = and <BR>then ... </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>That's for churches that really want to have a pissy music program!! = &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7b.13d8c7db.281bba4e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Managing Combination Actions From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 02:18:32 EDT     --part1_2d.ad68dfd.281bbab8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/27/01 7:18:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = maybe@pipcom.com writes:     > There's a chat ongoing right this minute (and every Fri/Mon 9pm eastern = till > beddybyes),   Well, I got this message at 2:15AM. Mebbe next week!!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_2d.ad68dfd.281bbab8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 4/27/01 7:18:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, maybe@pipcom.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">There's a chat = ongoing right this minute (and every Fri/Mon 9pm eastern till <BR>beddybyes), </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Well, I got this message at 2:15AM. &nbsp;&nbsp;Mebbe next week!!! = &nbsp;&nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_2d.ad68dfd.281bbab8_boundary--