PipeChat Digest #2275 - Wednesday, August 1, 2001
 
Re: Lefebure-Wely Sortie in Eb (X-posted)
  by "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Divorce Music
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Congregational sophistication?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Divorce Music
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Re: NYC Recital Thursday August 2
  by "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net>
Re: Divorce Music
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
RE: Congregational sophistication?
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Organ Recital Aug, 5
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
Re: Congregational sophistication?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Divorce Music
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Divorce Music
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Divorce Music
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Divorce Music
  by "Jeffrey Korns" <jakorns@home.com>
Re: Congregational sophistication?
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Lefebure-Wely Sortie in Eb (X-posted) From: "Stephen Barker" <steve@ststephenscanterbury.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:21:16 +0100   I've played this piece as a postlude in my Church of England Anglican = Church which is mostly traditional - it goes down very well with everybody - one piece I can guaranty everyone will stay and listen to and give me a round = of applause at the end! Go for it!   Steve Canterbury UK ----- Original Message ----- From: <Robert_Lind@cch.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: Lefebure-Wely Sortie in Eb (X-posted)     I play in a 2500-member ELCA church that is pretty evenly divided between traditional and contemporary worship. In traditional worship, our services are LBW lite, and in the realm of choral music, I choose a good amount of our new repertory from hot-off-the-press items published by Beckenhorst, Lorenz group, and several others.   My organ repertory is very wide-ranging and pretty well covers the globe. The congregation is not stuffy, and I certainly don't feed them insipid or = "bad" literature. What I'm wondering is, now that I've finally decided on piece = of Lef=E9bure-W=E9ly's that I'd like to play, would anyone out there play his Sortie in E Flat for a postlude or closing voluntary, or should the work be = relegated to recitals?   Need I point out the L-W did, indeed, write such pieces for liturgical = use. Both editor David Sanger and John Henderson fall upon the identical adjectives "banal" and "vulgar" to describe some of his pieces, but this sortie seems to be good fun. Is it out of place to play it at the close of a worship service?   Perhaps the "farthest out" I've gone for a postlude are the toccatas by Georgi Mushel and Ramon Noble and toe-tapping marches similar to Sousa (all very well received). And for silly names, I've played a piece by Oliphant Chuckerbutty. Now I'm wondering about this sortie. I don't think this means that I'd consider Noel Rawsthorne's "Hornpipe Humoresque" for the week after that, but it = does also make me wonder if there are other "borderline" works of other = composers that fall into this category.   Thanks to any of you with opinions about appropriateness, when and when = not to play such things, etc.   Robert Lind Good Shepherd Lutheran Church Naperville, IL       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Re: Divorce Music From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:28:15 -0500   What does one play for divorces nowadays? The same thing as for the wedding, only backwards?   Glenda Sutton (who doesn't own the White Album)      
(back) Subject: Re: Congregational sophistication? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:32:49 EDT   Hi List:   Lately I've seen threads where seasoned organists were not entirely sure or said they weren't sure about certain music and when to play it. Put your mind at ease. The average congregant comes to church to pray oddly enough. Your prelude may in fact be played softly from the liturature that will put them in the proper frame of mind to pray. You may actually decide to improvise on a well beloved tune, and play varied rhythms and color stop changes. A carpet as it were for the soul to float upon right to the very throne of God. Nothing = particularly flashy at all, just a quiet reflection, to help one prepare for the = service ahead. A carpet for one and all to remind them how much they depend on God, and how really small and fragil they really are. It's so easy and it costs nothing, but the dividends may last all week for them. I've always said, if they recognize what you are doing, it may be the exact wrong thing to do, calling attention to yourself instead. I was given this advice a long time ago, by a great service player and it always stuck. I thought it was time to pass this along.   Postludes for most Sundays should be a joyous send off, energizing people to live their religious experience, by good example, and living the Gospel lesson taught a few moments before. This is the time for exultation, smiles, friendly greeting over coffee, being good and thoughtful toward one another, and forgiveness. Yes, you are important, by leading them like a shepherd with your music relieving their burdens if even for a short while. That is a kindness they will remember you for. Sometimes we forget that it's the simple things that really count. The hymn tune: There is a balm in Gilead to heal the sin sick soul. Very often you are it!   Regards to all,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Divorce Music From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:34:35 -0400   the song, "leaving on a jet plane" comes to mind........ :o)   Glenda wrote:   > What does one play for divorces nowadays? The same thing as for the > wedding, only backwards? > > Glenda Sutton (who doesn't own the White Album) > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ***************************************************** Healthcare references for everyone. "Recipient of the year 2000 Featured Site Award at healthAtoZ.com" http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/m_erika.html   Internet Safety Lessons. Must reading for everyone. http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/safetylessons.html *****************************************************      
(back) Subject: Re: NYC Recital Thursday August 2 From: "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:49:36 -0400 (EDT)   Are there any recitals in the Fort Myers area of Florida this week or weekend Ed    
(back) Subject: Re: Divorce Music From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:55:54 -0400     --------------03B7B3B9F308117578197B17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       Glenda wrote:   > > > Glenda Sutton (who doesn't own the White Album) >   I don't either, but I do have several copies of "Rubber Soul". Does that make me a bad person? :-)   Mike     --------------03B7B3B9F308117578197B17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> &nbsp; <p>Glenda wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>&nbsp; <p>Glenda Sutton (who doesn't own the White Album) <br><a href=3D"mailto:requests@pipechat.org"></a>&nbsp;</blockquote> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't either, but I do have several copies of "Rubber Soul". Does that make me a bad person?&nbsp; :-) <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike <br>&nbsp;</html>   --------------03B7B3B9F308117578197B17--    
(back) Subject: RE: Congregational sophistication? From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:11:47 -0400   Ron: Well said. C.S. Lewis made the same observation concerning the = actions of (some) clergy.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of RonSeverin@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:33 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Congregational sophistication?     Hi List:   I've always said, if they recognize what you are doing, it may be the exact wrong thing to do, calling attention to yourself instead.        
(back) Subject: Organ Recital Aug, 5 From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:31:48 -0500   Organ recital will be held on the newly installed Moller organ at Zion-Sarpsborg Lutheran church. Dalton MN Sunday, August 5th 7:30 p.m.   Organist David Kvernstoen Selections by Bach, Buxtehude, 20th century English, Norwegian & German Composers.   Everyone Welcome!   ----------------------------------------- The organist is a former member of the Sarpsborg church. (His mother is still a member here and was a great help in the promotion of the organ project.)   He is now the organist at the Methodist church in Des Moines, Iowa.   The organ is the 13 rank Moller that I have been working on for the last many months.   Luther      
(back) Subject: Re: Congregational sophistication? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:43:24 EDT   Hi Andrew:   I look to C.S. Lewis as a 20th Century Anglican Saint. He struggled and won the ultimate race..........!   Ron Severin     St. Mary's by the Sea  
(back) Subject: Re: Divorce Music From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:13:40 EDT     --part1_8c.a423455.2898bfd4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/31/01 7:28:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes:     > What does one play for divorces nowadays? The same thing as for the > wedding, only backwards? >   Actually, you can play the same music, just very detached!!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_8c.a423455.2898bfd4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 7/31/01 7:28:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What does one play = for divorces nowadays? &nbsp;The same thing as for the <BR>wedding, only backwards? <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Actually, you can play the same music, just very detached!!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_8c.a423455.2898bfd4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Divorce Music From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:11:56 EDT     --part1_3c.f3b3692.2898cd7c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/31/01 3:37:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes:     > Why not just play wedding music backwards? >   Because we'd have to sit with each other at the reception before the ceremony, silly.   --part1_3c.f3b3692.2898cd7c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated = 7/31/01 3:37:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why not just play = wedding music backwards? <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Because we'd have to sit with each other at the reception before the <BR>ceremony, silly.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_3c.f3b3692.2898cd7c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Divorce Music From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:11:08 EDT     --part1_5f.18b7cc16.2898cd4c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/31/01 3:34:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, marika57@earthlink.net writes:     > Here's a song to play: Thanks for the Memories ;) > >   My suggestion: "Fifty Ways to Leave Your Lover"     Vicki   --part1_5f.18b7cc16.2898cd4c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated = 7/31/01 3:34:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>marika57@earthlink.net writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Here's a song to = play: &nbsp;Thanks for the Memories &nbsp;;) <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>My suggestion: &nbsp;"Fifty Ways to Leave Your Lover" <BR> <BR> <BR>Vicki</FONT></HTML>   --part1_5f.18b7cc16.2898cd4c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Divorce Music From: "Jeffrey Korns" <jakorns@home.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:41:51 -0500   How bout "Another one bites the Dust"?   Jeff Korns http://members.home.net/jakorns/ ----- Original Message -----   Subject: Re: Divorce Music     > In a message dated 7/31/01 3:34:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > marika57@earthlink.net writes: > > > > Here's a song to play: Thanks for the Memories ;) > > > > > > My suggestion: "Fifty Ways to Leave Your Lover" > > > Vicki >    
(back) Subject: Re: Congregational sophistication? From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:57:58 EDT     --part1_d5.9ffd142.2898d846_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I'm not of the opinion that preludes are of necessity quiet, all the time.   Just my 2 farthings worth.   Neil Brown   --part1_d5.9ffd142.2898d846_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>I'm not of the opinion that preludes are of necessity quiet, all = the time. <BR> <BR>Just my 2 farthings worth. <BR> <BR>Neil Brown</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d5.9ffd142.2898d846_boundary--