PipeChat Digest #2282 - Friday, August 3, 2001
 
Re: Pipe Organ Plus
  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes
  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Update: Small Pipe Organ and Player Piano For Sale
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: An Open Letter From Scott Foppiano
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Nicking and DeNicking pipes
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
RE: An Open Letter From Scott Foppiano
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Newbie Question: Resources for MIDI Conversion of 32-note AGOPedalboa
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Congregational sophistication?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ Plus From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:45:53 -0400   Dear Robert (and list),   For those of you with vinyl that wish a conversion to CD format - you can contact Dan Bostick ( Dan@lithoweb.com) for prices and such.       Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY     On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:26:20 -0400 "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> writes: > I had contacted Columbia records a number (quite a number) of years > ago to > see if all of E Power Biggs' recordings would eventually end up on > CD. I was > hoping for one recording in particular, the one that got me > interested in > becoming an organist, "Bach at Zwolle" on the Arp Schnitger organ in > the > Marktkerk (St. Michael). As it turns out, for those of you familiar > with the > EPB CDs that ARE on the market, that's it. Columbia told me that the > masters > of all the other records of EPB had been destroyed many years ago. I > cried. > Anyway, if anyone finds out where one can have this done maybe I can > take my > LP, scratchy as it is, to be done. For me and to my ears it contains > the > best playing ever of the St. Anne P&F. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Mindy [mailto:jackmndy@frontiernet.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:27 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Pipe Organ Plus > > > I have a couple LPs - good ol' vinyl - on the "Pipe Organ Plus" > label. > Having recently joined the 21st Century, I'd like to enjoy this > music via > CD, mostly because I can listen at higher volumes (and relatively > serious > subwoofer) in the car while killing time on some Interstate > somewhere. When > I crank it up, Monty Kelly can make my car vibrate like I have three > > unbalanced tires. Childish, yes, but fun neverthreless. > > Admittedly I can burn myself a CD of my vinyl, but the pros might > possibly > have better equipment than I do, as well as having the masters. > > Does anyone know if Pipe Organ Plus is/was/will be available on CD? > I've > had no luck searching the Internet, although I'll admit I'm not very > good > at that. If anyone can pass on some information about P.O.P., I'd > appreciate it. > > jack > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:22:27 -0400   Dear Seb,   You forgot to mention that pre-packaged nicks should only be applied after dark, as they are light sensitive. This, of course, lead to the expression; "Nick at Night" !     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY     On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:25:21 EDT TubaMagna@aol.com writes: > The old fashioned method of nicking languids, using various knives > and > nicking tools to incise either or both the languid or inner edge of > the lower > lip, have been replaced by more modern methods. > > Prepackaged nicks are available in boxes of 100, 500, or 1,000, and > in a > variety of styles. They usually come in three sizes. > Unfortunately, most > suppliers will not bother to sell you a single nick, because it > isn't worth > it for them to pull it out of stock, package it, and mail it, and on > an > individual basis, nicks can be very expensive that way. > > Always keep nicks in their original containers, or in clearly > marked, > securely sealed containers. The last thing you want to do is reach > into a > box of Medium German Nicks while voicing a 5-1/3' Quint and > inadvertently use > a French Large Nick in the middle of a languid. > > Once a box of nicks is opened, it should be used within four months; > a > really discerning musical ear can tell if the voicer has used stale > nicks. > And no amount of tonal finishing will compensate for soggy nicks. > > Removing nicks is accomplished by pressing a slice of processed > cheese food > product against the languid, which pulls the nicks out. They can > then be > taken to a hazardous waste disposal facility for a nominal fee. > > Hope this helps... > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Update: Small Pipe Organ and Player Piano For Sale From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:25:00 EDT     --part1_d0.19699500.289bf21c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hello again, listers.   I thank those of you who have made initial inquiries regarding the=3D20 instruments. I have included a few extra details below as well.   I am posting this again with the additional comment that prices listed = are,=3D20 of course, totally negotiable. It appears that I will be leaving = Michigan=3D20 within the next two weeks and need to get these instruments to a good home = o=3D r=3D20 make storage arrangements. I will, of course, keep them and hopefully = have=3D20 room for them in my new home if they are not purchased.   Thank you for reading (again).   * * * * *   I am selling my home pipe organ and player piano and would like to move = them=3D =3D20 as soon as possible.   It is a 1969 Wicks Portative, 2 manuals and pedals, totally self = contained,=3D20 all pipes exposed.   Dimensions: 7' wide, 7' deep (with pedalboard and bench) and 7-1/2' high = (16=3D '=3D20 Subbass has been mitred to fit under 8' ceiling).   Specifications are: Man I:=3DA0 8 Copula, 4 Gemshorn, 2 Blockflote Man II:=3DA0 8 Gemshorn, 4=3DA0 Koppelflote, 1-1/3 Quintflote Ped:=3DA0 16 Subbass, 8 Gedeckt, 4 Flote, 2 Choralbass   (no couplers, no tremulant)   Organ is located in metro Detroit, buyer to remove. Asking $10,000 or best REASONABLE offer.   * * * * *   1925 Straube upright player piano and bench, built in Chicago. = Excellent=3D20 working and physical condition and there is a light professionally = installed=3D =3D20 that illuminates the rolls and keys.=3DA0 Dual pedals or automatic = electric=3D20 vacuum action.=3D20 100+ player rolls and wooden roll dividers included.   Buyer to remove, also located in metro Detroit. Asking $2500.00   * * * * *   For questions please contact Scott Foppiano at scottfop@aol.com=3DA0 or at (248) 554-0228       --part1_d0.19699500.289bf21c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000a0" = SIZE=3D3D2>Hello a=3D gain, listers. <BR> <BR>I thank those of you who have made initial inquiries regarding = the=3D20 <BR>instruments. &nbsp;I have included a few extra details below as well. <BR> <BR>I am posting this again with the additional comment that prices listed = a=3D re,=3D20 <BR>of course, totally negotiable. &nbsp;It appears that I will be leaving = M=3D ichigan=3D20 <BR>within the next two weeks and need to get these instruments to a good = ho=3D me or=3D20 <BR>make storage arrangements. &nbsp;I will, of course, keep them and = hopefu=3D lly have=3D20 <BR>room for them in my new home if they are not purchased. <BR> <BR>Thank you for reading (again). <BR> <BR>* * * * * <BR> <BR>I am selling my home pipe organ and player piano and would like to = move=3D20=3D them=3D20 <BR>as soon as possible. <BR> <BR>It is a 1969 Wicks Portative, 2 manuals and pedals, totally self = contain=3D ed,=3D20 <BR>all pipes exposed. <BR> <BR>Dimensions: 7' wide, 7' deep (with pedalboard and bench) and 7-1/2' = high=3D (16'=3D20 <BR>Subbass has been mitred to fit under 8' ceiling). <BR> <BR>Specifications are: <BR>Man I:=3DA0 8 Copula, 4 Gemshorn, 2 Blockflote <BR>Man II:=3DA0 8 Gemshorn, 4=3DA0 Koppelflote, 1-1/3 Quintflote <BR>Ped:=3DA0 16 Subbass, 8 Gedeckt, 4 Flote, 2 Choralbass <BR> <BR>(no couplers, no tremulant) <BR> <BR>Organ is located in metro Detroit, buyer to remove. <BR>Asking $10,000 or best REASONABLE offer. <BR> <BR>* * * * * <BR> <BR>1925 Straube upright player piano and bench, built in Chicago. = Excellent=3D =3D20 <BR>working and physical condition and there is a light professionally = insta=3D lled=3D20 <BR>that illuminates the rolls and keys.=3DA0 Dual pedals or automatic = electri=3D c=3D20 <BR>vacuum action.=3D20 <BR>100+ player rolls and wooden roll dividers included. <BR> <BR>Buyer to remove, also located in metro Detroit. <BR>Asking $2500.00 <BR> <BR>* * * * * <BR> <BR>For questions please contact Scott Foppiano at <BR>scottfop@aol.com=3DA0 or at (248) 554-0228 <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_d0.19699500.289bf21c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: An Open Letter From Scott Foppiano From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 08:42:04 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3079672926_3385629_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   Neil:   Scott sent this:   The purpose of this email is to inform that I have departed from my = position as the Organist and Director of Music at the National Shrine of the Little Flower in Royal Oak, Michigan. I write you today in the wake of rumors = that have arisen in the past 48 hours.   The reasons behind my leaving are irreconcilable differences with the = church as the result of an errant email.   I will be leaving Michigan permanently within the next two weeks and will be, for the time being, traveling and resting. When I establish a new home = and career position I will forward my contact information. Your prayers for = my well being at this time are needed would be much appreciated.   Thank you.   Other than that, I know nothing; I suppose word will get around.   From: Innkawgneeto@cs.com Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:20:16 EDT To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: An Open Letter From Scott Foppiano     Obviously I missed something here. From what is Scott departing?   Thanks, Neil Brown     Scott.....   I for one am sorry to hear of your departure             --MS_Mac_OE_3079672926_3385629_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: An Open Letter From Scott Foppiano</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Neil:<BR> <BR> Scott sent this:<BR> <BR> <FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000A0">The purpose of this email is to inform that I = have de=3D parted from my position <BR> as the Organist and Director of Music at the National Shrine of the Little = =3D <BR> Flower in Royal Oak, Michigan. &nbsp;I write you today in the wake of = rumor=3D s that <BR> have arisen in the past 48 hours. &nbsp;<BR> <BR> The reasons behind my leaving are irreconcilable differences with the = churc=3D h <BR> as the result of an errant email. &nbsp;<BR> <BR> I will be leaving Michigan permanently within the next two weeks and will = b=3D e, <BR> for the time being, traveling and resting. &nbsp;When I establish a new = hom=3D e and <BR> career position I will forward my contact information. &nbsp;Your prayers = f=3D or my <BR> well being at this time are needed would be much appreciated. <BR> <BR> Thank you. <BR> </FONT><BR> Other than that, I know nothing; I suppose word will get around. = &nbsp;<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <B>From: </B>Innkawgneeto@cs.com<BR> <B>Reply-To: </B>&quot;PipeChat&quot; &lt;pipechat@pipechat.org&gt;<BR> <B>Date: </B>Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:20:16 EDT<BR> <B>To: </B>pipechat@pipechat.org<BR> <B>Subject: </B>Re: An Open Letter From Scott Foppiano<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2">Obviously I missed something here. = &nbsp;From wh=3D at is Scott departing? &nbsp;<BR> <BR> Thanks, <BR> Neil Brown <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Scott..... <BR> <BR> I for one am sorry to hear of your departure<BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial"><BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3079672926_3385629_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: RE: Nicking and DeNicking pipes From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:38:14 -0500   Aren't these available at Starbucks in lesser quantities (and for higher prices)?   -----Original Message----- From: TubaMagna@aol.com [mailto:TubaMagna@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:25 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes     Prepackaged nicks are available in boxes of 100, 500, or 1,000, and in a variety of styles. They usually come in three sizes. Unfortunately, most =   suppliers will not bother to sell you a single nick, because it isn't = worth it for them to pull it out of stock, package it, and mail it, and on an individual basis, nicks can be very expensive that way.    
(back) Subject: RE: An Open Letter From Scott Foppiano From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:46:44 -0500   Dear Scott: I am very sorry to learn of this change. You will be in my thoughts and prayers as you travel to your next destination. If you need a respite in the heartland, our doors are open to you. Peter   -----Original Message----- From: ScottFop@aol.com [mailto:ScottFop@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:56 PM To: djapple@bellsouth.net; bbaldus@voyager.net; bbecker@dcds.edu; jbell@fpc-hou.org; gbellamy@gatecom.com; TPRinPa@aol.com; Dburrall65@aol.com; redtos@voicenet.com; Ndunc4@aol.com; ad9578@mediaone.net; Gallisings@aol.com; Mark85inCT@aol.com; = fred@zarex.com; Devon3000@aol.com; SCarey611@aol.com; dkelzenb@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu; Tomlew1@juno.com; Tomlew2@aol.com; PipeOrgan4@aol.com; SMalottUSC@aol.com; CestJudy@aol.com; BMILOCHE@aol.com; Moncrief52@aol.com; denden1958@hotmail.com; anumerick@home.com; pandk@ciaccess.com; RevWJProm@aol.com; robert@magneticlab.com; dr04bp@birmingham.k12.mi.us; c.sabatowich@sthedwigchurch.zzn.com; ctietze@compuserve.com; fvanaman@speakeasy.org; dottiev@ili.net; Nessaferriole@aol.com; Melodyboy@aol.com; Simeron5@yahoo.com; RMB10@aol.com; DavNel10@aol.com; Shcspc@aol.com; Redbalrog3@aol.com; J5808@aol.com; GEU30CG@aol.com; Lewwill@aol.com; Paul5jacyk@aol.com; Wurlitzer235@aol. Subject: An Open Letter From Scott Foppiano     2 August 2001   Dear Colleagues,   The purpose of this email is to inform that I have departed from my = position   as the Organist and Director of Music at the National Shrine of the Little =   Flower in Royal Oak, Michigan. I write you today in the wake of rumors = that   have arisen in the past 48 hours.   The reasons behind my leaving are irreconcilable differences with the = church   as the result of an errant email.   I will be leaving Michigan permanently within the next two weeks and will be, for the time being, traveling and resting. When I establish a new home = and career position I will forward my contact information. Your prayers for = my well being at this time are needed would be much appreciated.   Thank you.   Scott F. Foppiano    
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:56:55 -0500   I'm just wondering if Cheese Nips can be used at all in this process (installation or de-installation)?   Glenda Sutton   ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com>   > Prepackaged nicks are available in boxes of 100, 500, or 1,000, and in a > variety of styles. They usually come in three sizes. Unfortunately, = most > suppliers will not bother to sell you a single nick, because it isn't worth > it for them to pull it out of stock, package it, and mail it, and on an > individual basis, nicks can be very expensive that way. .. . . . > Once a box of nicks is opened, it should be used within four months; a > really discerning musical ear can tell if the voicer has used stale = nicks. > And no amount of tonal finishing will compensate for soggy nicks. > > Removing nicks is accomplished by pressing a slice of processed cheese food > product against the languid, which pulls the nicks out. They can then = be > taken to a hazardous waste disposal facility for a nominal fee.        
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Resources for MIDI Conversion of 32-note AGOPedalboard From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:09:00 -0500   I have used the reed switches from Peterson and they are adjustable with a slot for the screw. A template is used to find the spot to fasten the switch.   They provided a LED system which would light up at the point of contact, so that adjustments could be made while the pedal board is off. It worked for me, I have readjusted a couple of them after getting the organ working.   Luther   -----Original Message----- From: Cameron D. McIntosh <yateendraji@hotmail.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Friday, August 03, 2001 3:20 AM Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Resources for MIDI Conversion of 32-note AGOPedalboard >> >>   >Dear Friends: >I'm still a little unsure about the magnets and reed switches. It'd sure = be >nice if I could rig up a way to individually regulate the "trip point" >(place in the pedal's travel where the switch closes) but it's not that >easy. Would love any suggestions you might have. > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:41:06 -0500   Some of you people need more to do! Roy Redman   Glenda wrote:   > I'm just wondering if Cheese Nips can be used at all in this process > (installation or de-installation)? > > Glenda Sutton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> > > > Prepackaged nicks are available in boxes of 100, 500, or 1,000, and in = a > > variety of styles. They usually come in three sizes. Unfortunately, = most > > suppliers will not bother to sell you a single nick, because it isn't > worth > > it for them to pull it out of stock, package it, and mail it, and on = an > > individual basis, nicks can be very expensive that way. > . . . . > > Once a box of nicks is opened, it should be used within four months; = a > > really discerning musical ear can tell if the voicer has used stale = nicks. > > And no amount of tonal finishing will compensate for soggy nicks. > > > > Removing nicks is accomplished by pressing a slice of processed cheese > food > > product against the languid, which pulls the nicks out. They can then = be > > taken to a hazardous waste disposal facility for a nominal fee. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes From: "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:34:25 -0400   Well, I suppose we could make some dip for them.   Diane   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Some of you people need more to do! Roy Redman   Glenda wrote:   > I'm just wondering if Cheese Nips can be used at all in this process > (installation or de-installation)? > > Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 09:35:04 -0700   Naw ... dip is too thin to use for de-nicking <EG>   Bud   STRAIGHT wrote:   > Well, I suppose we could make some dip for them. > > Diane > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > Some of you people need more to do! > Roy Redman > > Glenda wrote: > > > I'm just wondering if Cheese Nips can be used at all in this process > > (installation or de-installation)? > > > > Glenda Sutton > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:12:01 -0500   At 08:56 AM 8/3/01 -0500, Glenda ponders: >I'm just wondering if Cheese Nips can be used at all in this process >(installation or de-installation)? >   Greetings, Glenda, Sebastian, and LIST --   Glenda, I don't think Seb explained quite enough of the most-complicated denicking process. The "processed cheese food" product Seb refers to is not your ordinary garden variety "Kraft Single". In fact, it is an industrial and profoundly powerful cheese food product with an amazingly complex chemical formula -- much too strong for safe human consumption in its natural state. The product actually most-closely resembles "Cheez-Whiz", in appearance and consistency (though it has a pronounced greenish color), and organbuilders cast it out into small sheets (similar to the process of making pipe metal, actually, but utilizing lower temperatures and quantities of material). These sheets are then sliced into small strips, suitable for slipping down into the windways of the organ pipes. Once applied to the pipes, the material has to simply sit unattended for a number of hours (good ventilation, please!) and it simply dissolves the nicks away. Once the pipes are sufficiently de-nicked, the cheese material is collected, as Seb alludes, for disposal at a "hazardous waste disposal facility".   What the Government *doesn't* want you to know is the *next* step in the life of the nick-laden processed cheese food product -- These "disposal facilities" are in fact production facilities for "CheezCo Incorporated", = a holding company with concerns in numerous popular snack-food conglomerates (including Starbucks, Peter). They, in turn, filter and further process the processed cheese food product, and it ultimately ends up as an ingredient in an amazing variety of consumer products (McDonald's hamburgers, Breyer's ice cream, Dial bath soap, and Cheese Nips, to name just a few) I believe the recovered nicks are few enough in quantity so = as to be worthless to CheezCo, so they are simply disposed of. (After all, organbuilders use but a *tiny* percentage of the total amount of this industrial cheese-food product which is manufactured in any given year)   I believe the de-nicking properties of the cheese-food product were discovered accidentally during the late 1950's, by an unfortuante organ technician who had the bad luck to have located his shop next door to a storage warehouse which happened to contain a large quantity of the cheese-food product. During a tragic fire in this warehouse, several containers burst violently, thus leaving several piles of organ pipes stored in the shop next door completely coated in cheese. Subsequent clean-up efforts revealed the old pipes to have been completely and thoroughly de-nicked (some even claim upper lips were lowered, but I believe that to be an urban legend).   So you see, Glenda, Cheese Nips are not *used in* the process -- they are = a *by-product of* it!!   I do hope this all helps to make it clear... ;-)   A good afternoon to all --   Tim Bovard Little Rock AR    
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 18:41:03 -0400   Ok, let's talk about how revoicing might be done with hormones.   Roy Redman wrote:   > Some of you people need more to do! > Roy Redman > > Glenda wrote: > > > I'm just wondering if Cheese Nips can be used at all in this process > > (installation or de-installation)? > > > > Glenda Sutton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> > > > > > Prepackaged nicks are available in boxes of 100, 500, or 1,000, and = in a > > > variety of styles. They usually come in three sizes. = Unfortunately, most > > > suppliers will not bother to sell you a single nick, because it = isn't > > worth > > > it for them to pull it out of stock, package it, and mail it, and on = an > > > individual basis, nicks can be very expensive that way. > > . . . . > > > Once a box of nicks is opened, it should be used within four months; = a > > > really discerning musical ear can tell if the voicer has used stale = nicks. > > > And no amount of tonal finishing will compensate for soggy nicks. > > > > > > Removing nicks is accomplished by pressing a slice of processed = cheese > > food > > > product against the languid, which pulls the nicks out. They can = then be > > > taken to a hazardous waste disposal facility for a nominal fee. > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking and DeNicking pipes From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:06:23 EDT   Michael:   I don't think we want to go to Hormones just yet, the other alternatives are soooooo entertaining! :) Sebastian's suggestion might start a whole new fad. Perhaps Roy is right perhaps too much time on our hands and no other way to spend it. :)   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Congregational sophistication? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:13:11 EDT     --part1_e6.1937a035.289c8a07_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/2/01 7:32:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dutchorgan@svs.net writes:     > I find now, playing the songs from J. Crawford's "In A Monastary Garden" > more appropriate -and more deliciouser. >   Alas, the people praying their rosaries probably enjoyed "Alley Cat" more. = heeheehee   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_e6.1937a035.289c8a07_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/2/01 7:32:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>dutchorgan@svs.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I find now, = playing the songs from J. Crawford's "In A Monastary Garden" <BR>more appropriate -and more deliciouser. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Alas, the people praying their rosaries probably enjoyed "Alley Cat" = more. &nbsp; <BR>heeheehee <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_e6.1937a035.289c8a07_boundary--