PipeChat Digest #2299 - Wednesday, August 8, 2001
 
Re: shoes
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: pedalling
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Adjustable benches
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: pedalling
  by "Jon" <sparky@CEINetworks.com>
Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: pedalling
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
Re: Equal or not equal, is that a question?
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Barry Norris Residence Organ
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
Re: Pedalling and Console Motion
  by <stalan@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Pedalling
  by <stalan@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Ton Koopman
  by <stalan@ix.netcom.com>
Re: pedalling
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: pedalling
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: pedaling and knees together
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: shoes
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
Pedalling, contd
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: shoes From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 18:32:08 -0400   don't know if anyone previously posted this, but here's the website for = Capezio:   http://www.capeziodance.com/   (I used to buy (many years ago) my ballet toe shoes from them...best = around!)   DEMPAR1@aol.com wrote:   > Organmasters is where most people get them but I like to try them on = before buying. The pair I have cost around $70 at a local dance and = theatrical supply. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ***************************************************** Healthcare references for everyone. "Recipient of the year 2000 Featured Site Award at healthAtoZ.com" http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/m_erika.html   Internet Safety Lessons. Must reading for everyone. http://home.earthlink.net/~marika57/safetylessons.html *****************************************************      
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 17:57:15 -0500   Have you ever built an organ bench? Ask those who have if they would do = it for $200. Roy   "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > I don't drive. I'm your tipical New Yorker, of a certain period. But as = long > as you don't charge 200 bucks for the bench and I'd go for it. 200 bucks = for > a bench! Geeeeeeeez. > > -----Original Message----- > From: RonSeverin@aol.com [mailto:RonSeverin@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:30 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged > > Hi Robert and Mandy: > > If I ever become ruler of the world all organs being built will come > equiped with adjustable organ benches 22" to 26" high. All will > be equiped with a back rest. Pipe or Digital organs are expensive > anyway, what's a few extra bucks for something useful. I will also > write a law that all existing organs must have adjustable benches > with a back rest. :) Forget the crank too! Electric motors with a > small computer so people can dial in the correct bench height > and depth of the bench from the console. Cars have it why not > make that a standard feature on benches too. We do > spend a lot of our life every day on one. > > A great idea, > > Ron Severin > > PS Tracker people will probably protest for a tracker action bench done > the old way. The back rest could become a spanking tool Oh, but they > would probably like that! :) > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:21:43 EDT   Hi Roy:   The bench frames could be built out of strong materials in a third world country for next to nothing, you provide the motor and bench top already finished. The frame could be made of steel to standard specifications. the worm gear and motor and computer made in Japan. It could revolutionize organ benches on into the future. A company could be formed called pipe organ bench supply. Produced in quantity they wouldn't be that expensive to make. :>)   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: pedalling From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 07:28:08 +0800   Aaahh Cheryl! I wish I could have seen that! Bob E.   Cheryl C Hart wrote: > Now, when I was a young slip of a thing, way back in the xxs, I had to = keep > my knees together because I would insist on wearing pencil slim = skirts > (mini ones at that - that dates me, if nothing else!). = Fortunately I have > long legs - although only 5' 3" - and I used to twist = slightly at the waist > (good exercise) to reach the extremes of the = pedalboard without ripping my > skirt apart and falling off the bench.    
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 07:43:13 +0800   Ron, it could be easier to have built in hydraulic jacks under the console. Let the stool remain static!!!!! There could be a stop named "Elevation"! Bob E.   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Roy: > > The bench frames could be built out of strong materials in a third world > country for next to nothing, you provide the motor and bench top already > finished. The frame could be made of steel to standard specifications. > the worm gear and motor and computer made in Japan. It could > revolutionize organ benches on into the future. A company could be = formed > called pipe organ bench supply. Produced in quantity they wouldn't be > that expensive to make. :>) > > Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:57:21 EDT   Hi Bob;   I love it! What happened to the desert man? I haven't seen him pop up in ages. Did he die?   Ron     J=E4ger und Brommer Orgelbau  
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:57:59 EDT   Adjustable benches, with a crank mechanism, have been available from = American organbuilders and organbuilding supply houses for decades.   Organ Supply just completed an adjustable, crank-mechanism bench for us in = an art deco style to complement the architecture of a building in which we = are building a new instrument. The adjustable bench was commissioned at the request of the music department, which sports a complement of organists in =   various shapes and sized.   Another way to handle it is to have the pedal clavier ride up and down on hydraulic or mechanical mechanisms, as it does at the National Cathedral, although this is more expensive and seems more open to malfunctions.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: pedalling From: "Jon" <sparky@CEINetworks.com> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 20:17:54 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3080146674_2540154 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   Quite frankly, I don=3DB9t know when the last time was Diane Bish hit all = the right notes. She defies the rules all right.... Thump... Thump... = Thump... Thump....   ~j   And then there are Virgil Fox and Diane Bish, who defy all the rules but=3D20 > still hit all the notes at the right time. >=3D20 > I am occasionally aware of how much effort it takes to redirect my = attent=3D ion > to proper and "seamless" pedalling. but then, that's part of the fun. >=3D20 > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >=3D20     --B_3080146674_2540154 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: pedalling</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Quite frankly, I don&#8217;t = know when th=3D e last time was Diane Bish hit all the right notes. &nbsp;She defies the = rul=3D es all right.... Thump... Thump... Thump... Thump....<BR> <BR> ~j<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And then = =3D there are Virgil Fox and Diane Bish, who defy all the rules but <BR> </FONT></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">still = hit all t=3D he notes at the right time. &nbsp;<BR> <BR> I am occasionally aware of how much effort it takes to redirect my = attentio=3D n <BR> to proper and &quot;seamless&quot; pedalling. &nbsp;&nbsp;but then, that's = =3D part of the fun. <BR> <BR> Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp;<BR> with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ &quot;&quot;Haruffaroo, = Bohaw=3D ow!&quot; <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR> Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FO=3D NT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D3D"Verdana"> <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Verdana"><BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3080146674_2540154--    
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches for the height challenged From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 19:18:09 -0500   And what do you suppose the motor and benchtop would cost? Roy   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Hi Roy: > > The bench frames could be built out of strong materials in a third world > country for next to nothing, you provide the motor and bench top already > finished. The frame could be made of steel to standard specifications. > the worm gear and motor and computer made in Japan. It could > revolutionize organ benches on into the future. A company could be = formed > called pipe organ bench supply. Produced in quantity they wouldn't be > that expensive to make. :>) > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: pedalling From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 20:52:06 EDT   In a message dated 01-08-08 02:37:21 EDT, you write:   > > << Knees together doesn't work out very well at the either > extreme of the pedalboard, only in the center portion of it. >> > > I've been told never to play knees together, though the technique books = I > use > say you should. What would be the advantage of playing this way? Is it = to > help stabilize your motions, or get a point of reference of where you = are on > > the pedals? I tend to feel like I'm floundering on the pedals when I = can't > glance at my feet.   i think the point of teachers telling you to keep knees together is so you =   can get the turnout of the ankles and soles of the shoes you need. once = you get that turnout, i think you don't need to think about knees together. merry  
(back) Subject: Re: Equal or not equal, is that a question? From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 20:53:27 EDT   In a message dated 8/8/2001 10:27:01 AM EST, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org = writes:   > > On my organ at home---yes it's digital, sorry---I have three = temperament > choices, equal, meantone, Werkmeister (sans distinction of which > Werkmeister), I use this last when I play Bach, which would you = recommend? > thank you, Just a guess, but it is probably Werk III, which would have been a temperament in some usage in Bach's time. Just watch out for keys with 4 = or more flats.(IMHO)   Rick in VA  
(back) Subject: Re: Barry Norris Residence Organ From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:59:24 -0700 (PDT)   Dear Mike:   Don't be discouraged!!!!   You may be 51, but that is by no means old. I'm 61 and I still have hopes for the future, and past experiences have taught me that I can accomplish ANYTHING if I really want it badly enough.   I hope that you can come to Texas soon and with a little notice, I can arrange a tuning trip so you will have a chance to see some interesting organs, three organ building shops, and a lot of Texas. You will also get a chance to hold some keys!   Keith Morgan --- Mike Gettelman <mike3247@earthlink.net> wrote: > Thanks for this David. It was a real treat to > hear from Barry himself, > and I look most forward to a time when he might join > us, and tell a bit > more about his 20 year odyssey. Home organ building > provides those of us > who want to be close to the pipes, an outlet for our > passion. I've pretty > much figured out that the organ builders are much > too busy to bother with > people who aspire to the craft, so I have changed my > focus towards > obtaining and working with my own instrument. It may > not be on the scale > that Barry has accomplished, but it will be mine, > and nobody will be there > to tell me I can't, or how hard it is, or how many > years it takes to > accumulate the sacred knowledge. > Feeling slightly cheerless > Mike Gettelman > > David Scribner wrote: > > > Since Barry is a friend of mine, I invited him to > join back in the > > PipeChat list to answer questions about his home > instrument. He > > declined for the time being due to other things > going on in his life > > currently. However, he wrote the following and > suggested I post it > > to the list. > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > When all put together late this fall or early next > > year, the organ will have 187 ranks, 10,500 pipes. > > I've not added any rooms on to the house. It is > all > > under the original roof. The only digital sounds > were > > all made by Walker, and I'm very pleased with > them. > > They are two 16's and six 32's in the pedal, as > well > > as three percussions - harp, tower chimes, and > celesta > > on the manuals. That is all that's digital. > > > > All of the manual ranks are pipes. As you know, > the > > way I've been able to afford to do this is because > > I've spent almost the last 20 years on the > project, > > I've used so many used ranks, and I've done all > the > > design and installation myself (with help from a > few > > friends!). > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > Maybe once he gets a bit of time he will rejoin > this list and be able > > to discuss the organ with the rest of you. But > for the time being > > this will have to suffice. > > > > David > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedalling and Console Motion From: <stalan@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 20:43:11 -0500   Re: Catherine Crozier - Gleason technique...   > I know what most us were taught about correct pedaling, > knees together, right? The virtuoso's don't approach > pedaling this way.   I was taught - heels together up to the fifth, knees together up to the octave. It is a way of "measuring" intervals. Further - the ankle acts a fulcrum for up-and-down motion, not the leg. The feet are turned in using the ball of the foot, and the inside of the heel. Each note is prepared, in that, upon releasing a note, the foot is in position to play the next.   Of course, this is only one of several "techniques", and is by no means the one and "only". I learned to play the organ using this technique from an early age, and for me, is how I play. The knees and heels are kept together at both the bottom and top of the pedalboard for consecutive notes. When playing music that requires each foot to move independently, the foot position remains the same as when heels are together.   Yes, Catherine Crozier DOES play with her knees and heels together, and I for one, albeit a disciple, and many others, place her in the category of "virtuoso".   > Catherine Crozier is the ultimate Queen of what I'm talking about.   As regards extraneous motion. I include this quote to add a resounding YES, that hearing her play, and SEEING her play, is to witness an artist of the highest caliber and beauty in motion. However, I did fall asleep one night listening to her practice... It was late and after multitudinous repetitions of a passage in rhythms. I remember hearing "long-short-short-long", and then being awakened by the security guard with an anxious Ms. Crozier in tow, remarking about someone snoring in the balcony... Oh well, at least we all had a good laugh, on me!!! and she never did let me forget it. ;-)   Scott Davis Austin, Texas      
(back) Subject: Re: Pedalling From: <stalan@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 20:45:24 -0500   > Using all toes of course on the pedalboard was only done on the > European flat boards. Heel Toe was designed to make it easier > to get around on the concave radiating pedalboard because the > relative distances are more uniform.   HUM? Didn't the French symphonic organ technique as devised by Lemmens, further developed by Widor, Guilmant, and Dupre use toe and heel on flat and straight pedalboards. Or, am I wrong and missed something along the way? Was that flat and radiating? Nonetheless, flat... ;-)   Scott Davis Austin, Texas      
(back) Subject: Re: Ton Koopman From: <stalan@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 20:46:13 -0500   > performs the works entirely using only toes in the pedal as was > the technique practiced by Bach and his contemporanei.   There really isn't a single shred of direct evidence concerning Bach's pedaling. Further, there is hardly any more evidence from his pupils.   However, Daniel Gottlob Turk (1756-1813), a pupil of Gottfried Homilius, who was a pupil of J.S. Bach, gave examples with pedal indications for alternate toe and toe AND heel pedaling. He did, moreover, object to "one-legged" organists who played with only the left foot in the lower octave and the right foot in the upper octave. (Von den wichtigsten Pflichten eines Organisten (On the Most Important Duties of an Organist) (Leipzig and Halle, 1789), pp. 158-159.   The real truth is that we don't know how Bach played the pedals, only that he played them very well according to his contemporaries!   Scott Davis Austin, Texas    
(back) Subject: Re: pedalling From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:53:24 EDT     --part1_38.1a225abd.28a34714_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Um, gentlemen have great difficulty playing "knees together". 'nuff said, =   and I don't mean any disrespect or vulgarity whatever.   Neil B   --part1_38.1a225abd.28a34714_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Um, gentlemen have great difficulty playing "knees together". = &nbsp;'nuff said, <BR>and I don't mean any disrespect or vulgarity whatever. <BR> <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_38.1a225abd.28a34714_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: pedalling From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:54:38 EDT     --part1_12b.2ac6329.28a3475e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       > And then there are Virgil Fox and Diane Bish, who defy all the rules but =   > still hit all the notes at the right time   NO, they have the benefit of cameras! :)   Neil B   --part1_12b.2ac6329.28a3475e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">And then there are = Virgil Fox and Diane Bish, who defy all the rules but <BR>still hit all the notes at the right time</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>NO, &nbsp;they have the benefit of cameras! &nbsp;:) <BR> <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12b.2ac6329.28a3475e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: pedaling and knees together From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:57:40 EDT     --part1_a6.17ee6f3e.28a34814_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       > Even watching Diane, notice her feet. it's at the ankles   This is true. And watch how her feet are always at the pedal BEFORE it plays. I learned a lot from watching her pedalwork actually.   But my question has yet to be answered. Do other people's organ pedals = have hash marks on them? Confession IS good for the sole LOL   Neil   --part1_a6.17ee6f3e.28a34814_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Even watching = Diane, notice her feet. &nbsp;it's at the ankles</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>This is true. &nbsp;And watch how her feet are always at the pedal = BEFORE it <BR>plays. &nbsp;I learned a lot from watching her pedalwork actually. <BR> <BR>But my question has yet to be answered. &nbsp;Do other people's organ = pedals have <BR>hash marks on them? &nbsp;Confession IS good for the sole LOL <BR> <BR>Neil</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a6.17ee6f3e.28a34814_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: shoes From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:32:11 -0400   Boy, can I identify with that! 30 some years ago, this slightly overweight guy (me)walks into the dance equipment store and asks for = Capezio dance shoes with the tutu crowd watching ! Well, I still have them = and they still work (and I'm still playing). ......glad they lasted so that I didn't have to go thru that again! Ed, in Maine   ----- Original Message ----- From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: Re: shoes     > Hey Robert: > > Capezzio dance shoes can be purchased in costume and dance shops. > It's where I got mine. When I was there, the girls and their mommies > were buying bunny suits and tutu's. They sure wear well though. There's > just got to be one within walking distance in NYC. Try the Yellow Pages. > The Smart Yellow Pages! Not the bunny suits and tutu's, the shoes! :) > > Ron > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Pedalling, contd From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:03:33 EDT     --part1_66.129069f9.28a34975_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       > There really isn't a single shred of direct evidence concerning > Bach's pedaling. Further, there is hardly any more evidence from > his pupils   And I thought I read something not too long ago more or less dispelling = the notion of toe-only pedalling in Baroque (I mean as an exclusive practice). = Or the author was attempting to dispel that.   I cannot believe that JSB, with 20 odd children, busy work schedule, = detail personified, which to me means efficiency personified, did NOT use his = heels when pedalling.   But hey, what do I know? I'm just a church musician.   Neil Brown     --part1_66.129069f9.28a34975_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">There really isn't = a single shred of direct evidence concerning <BR>Bach's pedaling. &nbsp;Further, there is hardly any more evidence from <BR>his pupils</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>And I thought I read something not too long ago more or less = dispelling the <BR>notion of toe-only pedalling in Baroque (I mean as an exclusive = practice). &nbsp; <BR>Or the author was attempting to dispel that. <BR> <BR>I cannot believe that JSB, with 20 odd children, busy work schedule, = detail <BR>personified, which to me means efficiency personified, did NOT use his = heels <BR>when pedalling. <BR> <BR> But hey, what do I know? &nbsp;I'm just a church musician. <BR> <BR>Neil Brown <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_66.129069f9.28a34975_boundary--