PipeChat Digest #2307 - Monday, August 13, 2001
 
Re: Anyone need a laugh?
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Adjustable benches
  by "Joe Karashani" <jtkarash@copperNET.zm>
Re: Adjustable benches
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Adjustable benches
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Adjustable benches
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Mendelssohn
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Re: New "Baby" Arriving Today.
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
new console
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Mendelssohn
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
Re: Mendelssohn
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: new console
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Adjustable benches
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Anyone need a laugh? From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:17:51 +0800   Thank you Marika. I will go get it. Bob E.   "    
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches From: "Joe Karashani" <jtkarash@copperNET.zm> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:26:53 +0200     This is my first post to the list after lurking for sometime, and may well be the first from this part of the world. I am the (amateur) organist and choirmaster at the Anglican Cathedral of the Holy Cross in Lusaka, Zambia, where we have a 2-manual, 28-rank organ relocated from the UK some five years ago, an operation one journalist termed a *long-distance organ transplant*. The plaque below the music rack names the builder simply as *C. Lloyd of Nottingham* with no date; but it is believed to have been built about 1884. I have no history of the instrument apart from the fact that it was in an unusable state for some years and needed a full restoration before shipping to us, mostly retaining the original pipework and the lovely Victorian case. I wonder whether our UK listers such as Steve Barker know this builder and could give us an idea of his work.   The action is tracker on the manuals and electropneumatic (I think) on the pedals, with the drawknobs in vertical rows as is traditional in English instruments of that period. The organ is up in the West gallery and the layout is very spacious and allows one easy access for tuning and adjustments. At first it suffered quite severely from shrinkage and cracking of the soundboards and the bellows owing to our low humidity in the cold season (like the present time), a problem which was solved by the installation of a humidifier; but the ornamental pipe shades still suffer from numerous cracks that we still have to deal with. As the nearest organ builders from us are in South Africa, a long way away, we have to do the tuning and other minor maintenance jobs ourselves (i.e. yours truly). I am sure the professional builders on this list would frown at the way we handle some of these jobs; but we have to keep the thing working as best as we can Sunday by Sunday. I am most grateful to this list for many, many tips and ideas I have gathered from you all.   My main problem is the bench. I have to sit perched on the edge to reach the pedals (RCO 30 notes) and I feel very uncomfortable and unsteady; I have on at least two occasions slid off onto the pedals during the Sunday service in trying to pull the top stops, attracting the gaze of parishioners from below. I wanted to have the bench sawn short by about 3", but before I could get this done I had a young visiting organist who had come all the way from England to play for a wedding: to my surprise, he wanted the bench HIGHER and we had to provide make-shift 2-inch blocks for him! Now, I am 5'3", which seems to be near the lower cut-off point according to one lister, and no-one in the congregation or even the Dean of the Cathedral has any idea how miserable I am up there. I measured the bench this morning and found it is 25" high. I desperately need an adjustable bench and I am prepared to pay $200 even from my own pocket if it will give me some peace of mind. But to import one from the UK or USA will mean paying prohibitive freight charges and will probably attract customs duties as well.   Question: is the technology of making an adjustable bench with manual cranking so complex that it is beyond our local craftsmen, or is it protected by some kind of patent? If not, where can one find the design? I would not mind if the finishing was not all that professional as long as it was reliable and stable. I have the two volumes of Audsley but this subject seems not to be dealt with (I have not read them cover to cover). Alternatively, are there any listers from South Africa who could let me know whether we can obtain one from there -- transportation would be cheaper. Any advice would be appreciated.     Joe Karashani Organist and Director of Music Anglican Cathedral of the Holy Cross Lusaka, Zambia   <TubaMagna@aol.com> wrote:   > Adjustable benches, with a crank mechanism, have been available from American > organbuilders and organbuilding supply houses for decades. >        
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:51:05 -0700   Dear Joe,   Unless the bench has to be adjusted every week for multiple organists, I'd simply have it cut to YOUR height, and have blocks in 1/2 inch increments cut to fit the bench legs for taller organists.   Our practice organs at Conservatory were like that ... the blocks were grooved on the top so the bench legs would stay put; they also had dowels so they'd lock together and not slide off of each other. It was only a matter of a couple of minutes to change the height of the bench.   Cheers,   Bud-by-the-Beach St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church Newport Beach CA USA        
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:13:14 -0500   Joe Karashani wrote:   > The plaque below the > music rack names the builder simply as *C. Lloyd of > Nottingham* with no date; but it is believed to have been > built about 1884. <snip> I wonder whether our UK listers such as > Steve Barker know this builder and could give us an idea of > his work.   One very useful resource is the website of the British Institute of Organ Studies (BIOS) which may be found at   http://www.bios.org.uk   Go to "Online organ information services" and click on the National Pipe Organ Register (NPOR). Click on "Builder" and then type in "C. Lloyd" in the box and you will get histories and specifications of some of his instruments. You can then go to the Directory of British Organ Builders (DBOB) and put "Lloyd" in the box and you will get some biographical details and dates of the firm.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:25:11 -0500   I note some additional organ entries come up on NPOR under "C. Lloyd & = Co." or the generic "Lloyd%". These include an interesting four-manual at St. Andrew's, Nottingham.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Mendelssohn From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:28:57 +0100   Mendelssohn is new to me but I have recently heard Sonatas No 4 and No 6 = at the lunchtime recital series at the the Central Methodist Church in York - very interesting. Coincidentally I have just found a used (very) Novello edition (the six sonantas and 3 Preludes and Fugues) edited by WT Best and dated 1872. Though it's obviously far from the best edition it should do start with.   I would be interested to hear any views on the suitability of particular movements for church use as voluntaries, postludes etc.   Regards   Bruce Miles     mail to:- bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk website:- www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk    
(back) Subject: Re: New "Baby" Arriving Today. From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:31:16 -0700 (PDT)   Dear Randy:   Congratulations on acquiring the Aeolian-Skinner console.   If the original drawknobs have not been replaced, they are ivory. If you contact Hesco (whose address I do not have), they can turn these knobs down on a lathe and engrave the new stop names.   Let me know how this project works out.   D. Keith Morgan --- Randy Terry <randyterryus@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I am expecting a new arrival today! - 'Twill be a > hard birthing because she is already 40 years old!! > A generous parishioner has provided St. Peter's with > the funds to purchase the wonderful 1961 > Aeolian-Skinner console (2/ped, drawknob) that was > originally installed in the organ at St. John's > Episcopal, in Ross, CA. St. John's has acquired a > new 4 manual Allen which has been interfaced with > the original A-S installation there, and augmented > with many digital ranks. > It is a beautiful console, with the wonderful ivory > tracker touch manuals these machines are famous for. > It has just enough contols (barely) to do what we > wanted with the specification. We will acquire a new > larger blower, and at least for now keep the E/P > combination action in tact. The instrument will be > controlled by a software driven control system, > which will require us to obtain a new power unit as > well. > I don't think the drawknob heads are ivory - but if > they are, is it possible (for a professional) to > sand them down, polish, and re-engrave them?? > > > Randy Terry > Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster > The Episcopal Church of St. Peter > Redwood City, California > www.stpetersrwc.org > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger.     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: new console From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:18:24 -0700 (PDT)   --- douglas morgan <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear Randy: > > Congratulations on acquiring the Aeolian-Skinner > console. > > If the original drawknobs have not been replaced, they > are ivory. If you contact Hesco (whose address I do > not have), they can turn these knobs down on a lathe > and engrave the new stop names. > > Let me know how this project works out. >   Thanks, they are ivory. Rich did you say you knew the address of these = people??   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Mendelssohn From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:20:27 EDT   In a message dated 01-08-11 15:48:04 EDT, you write:   > > > I'm a young, rather inexperienced organist who wishes to become = better. > > I recently purchased the complete organ works of Mendelssohn by = Schirmer > > and concluded I'm not technically up to the challenge of many of the > > works. Can anyone > > recommend a progressive repertoire list leading up in difficulty to = the > > Preludes, Fugues, and especially the Sonatas? Exactly how difficult = are > > these works considered to be by most organists? Thanks in advance!   in addition to the second sonata, start with the slow movements of the = other sonatas. they are not as lengthy or as difficult as the fast movements, = and they are beautiful. you will be able to use them often for preludes etc. merry  
(back) Subject: Re: Mendelssohn From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:28:17 -0500   MFoxy9795@aol.com wrote:   in addition to the second sonata, start with the slow movements of the = other   > sonatas. they are not as lengthy or as difficult as the fast movements,   Another good movement to start with is the final part (fugue) of Sonata = No. 6.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: new console From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:23:50 EDT   Make sure that they can match the engraving you want, for both style and depth. Not all engraving houses have appropriate fonts available.  
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable benches From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:05:06 EDT   Hi Joe:   I believe your present bench could be modified with a little thought. Adjustable benches work on a scissor jack principal. You could also lower the bench to 24" and have adjustable blocks made to increase the height for taller players. Cutting off the bottom of the bench may cause problems with fitting over the pedals. Unscrewing and taking it apart and cutting it off from the top of the legs and having it sanded and refinished may be what you would want to do. And then screw it back together. A wood worker locally could do that. A standard bench should measure 21 3/4" from bench top to middle E by plumb line to the pedalboard and about 24" from the floor on the back side.   Ron Severin   PS Losing an inch may make a big difference in comfort and one should be seated on the leading edge of the bench, centered and square with the console.