PipeChat Digest #2308 - Monday, August 13, 2001
 
quiet (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Gigue
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Hello? Hello-o?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Hello? Hello-o?
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Re: Gigue
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Gigue
  by "hell-felix" <Hell-Felix@t-online.de>
RE: Hello? Hello-o?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: Gigue
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
When it doubt...Play it anyway.
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Bach: who decides?
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: Bach: who decides?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Surf City USA
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Bach: who decides?
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
RE: Bach: who decides?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
more Hello?
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: more Hello?
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: more Hello?
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: more Hello?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: more Hello?
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: more Hello?
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: more Hello?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Oragnitis a pipe organ disease
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Gigue
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Bach: who decides?
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
New Territory
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: more Hello?
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: Oragnitis a pipe organ disease
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: quiet (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 06:55:53 -0700   Awfully quiet ... everybody have heat prostration?   The organ man put a UPS battery backup on the Allen this week ... unfortunately it has a rather LOUD alarm ... it went off about five minutes after I started practicing yesterday morning, so evidently our problem IS with the building's power supply, rather than the combination action (which wouldn't hold settings from one day to the next) or the keying (random dead notes, never the SAME ones). I disconnected it so I could play Mass; the organ did all sorts of weird things all morning. My computer guru is going to disconnect the audio on the backup box so we can use it.   The foundation of the new church will be poured today ... the cornerstone-laying is the Feast of St. Matthew, Sept. 21. That's timely .... both Masses were out-the-doors crowded again yesterday. No special music to speak of ... Willan Mass, hymns, organ chorales from the Yale Bach collection ... that was about it. They whooped it up on "In The Hour of Trial" (we read the Gospel of the Prodigal Son in the old lectionary) and "Blest Be The Tie That Binds" ... we're still in low-church summer mode (grin).   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Gigue From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:10:11 -0400   Can anyone tell me the BWV number of the Fugue in G (Gigue)? Thank you,   Robert B. Colasacco Administrative Assistant/Secretary Distinguished Colleagues Population Council One Dag Hammarskjold Plaza New York, NY 10017 Direct Telephone: (212) 339-0685 Main Telephone: (212) 339-0500 Fax: (212) 755-6052 e-mail: rcolasacco@popcouncil.org Visit our web site: www.popcouncil.org    
(back) Subject: Hello? Hello-o? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:46:24 -0400   Anybody here? Pssssssssssssssssst. Oh well. I may as well leave. I can't learn anything standing here talking to myself.      
(back) Subject: Re: Hello? Hello-o? From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:03:17 -0400   I talk with myself constantly and it's the best conversation I have!! ;)   "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > Anybody here? Pssssssssssssssssst. Oh well. I may as well leave. I can't > learn anything standing here talking to myself. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Gigue From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:02:12 -0400   It's 577.   Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 8/13/01 2:10 PM, COLASACCO, ROBERT at RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org wrote:   > Can anyone tell me the BWV number of the Fugue in G (Gigue)? > Thank you, > > Robert B. Colasacco > Administrative Assistant/Secretary > Distinguished Colleagues > Population Council > One Dag Hammarskjold Plaza > New York, NY 10017 > Direct Telephone: (212) 339-0685 > Main Telephone: (212) 339-0500 > Fax: (212) 755-6052 > e-mail: rcolasacco@popcouncil.org > Visit our web site: > www.popcouncil.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Gigue From: "hell-felix" <Hell-Felix@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:08:40 +0200   Hi Listmembers,   back from a grandious vacation I just got it back under my fingers this afternoon: BWV 577   Felix Hell   COLASACCO, ROBERT schrieb: > Can anyone tell me the BWV number of the Fugue in G (Gigue)? > Thank you, > > Robert B. Colasacco > Administrative Assistant/Secretary > Distinguished Colleagues > Population Council > One Dag Hammarskjold Plaza > New York, NY 10017 > Direct Telephone: (212) 339-0685 > Main Telephone: (212) 339-0500 > Fax: (212) 755-6052 > e-mail: rcolasacco@popcouncil.org > Visit our web site: > www.popcouncil.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE: Hello? Hello-o? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:11:12 -0400   You're right. Sometimes that certainly is the case. I think it's because I tend to always agree with myself.   -----Original Message----- From: Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS [mailto:marika57@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:03 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Hello? Hello-o?     I talk with myself constantly and it's the best conversation I have!! ;)   "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > Anybody here? Pssssssssssssssssst. Oh well. I may as well leave. I can't > learn anything standing here talking to myself. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: Gigue From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:12:39 -0400   Vielen dank. - Robert   BWV 577   Felix Hell   COLASACCO, ROBERT schrieb: > Can anyone tell me the BWV number of the Fugue in G (Gigue)?  
(back) Subject: When it doubt...Play it anyway. From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:16:36 -0400   Where does one find the information as to whether or not a work is Bach's = or spurious or doubtful or whatever? Where is this authority coming from? I remember always, even early in my career, that there was doubt surrounding the 8 littles but I don't remember any dispute about the Gigue inter alia which are in doubt today! Have new sources, or should I say obviously more recent sources "prove?" otherwise. But whence cometh this info. Thank you, Robert    
(back) Subject: Bach: who decides? From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:50:56 -0700   Musicologists with MUCH too much time on their hands (grin).   The problem is that some of the manuscripts available to C.F. Peters for = THEIR edition had disappeared by the time the Bach Gesellschaft did THEIR work, = among other things.   Then there was the weird dude who HAD a bunch of the manuscripts, but = wouldn't give the BG access, on the grounds that the Handel Gesellschaft was = already doing enough for German music (!?).   Then there's the gray area of internal evidence in the pieces themselves = ... for instance, the very popular chorale prelude "Have Mercy Upon Me" ("Erbarm = dich") in the misc. chorale preludes is like practically nothing else Bach wrote = in that genre ... Schweitzer sorta accepts it, with reservations; yet he = DOESN'T accept far more "bachian" chorale preludes and partitas. Peters and Dupre include far more of the "doubtful" works.   I'VE always thought the Toccata and Fugue in d minor was suspect, = Schweitzer's affection for it and very spiritual interpretation notwithstanding ... I invariably nod off about two pages into the Fugue, even if I'm PLAYING it (grin).   Schweitzer says Krebs wrote the 5-part "Wir glauben" in F Major; yet it = bears more than a passing resemblance to the famous 5-part "Am Wasserflussen = Babylon" that Bach improvised for Rincken to prove that the art of double-pedal = wasn't lost on the younger generation.   If I like it, I play it; I don't worry about it (grin).   Cheers,   Bud-by-the-Beach   "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > Where does one find the information as to whether or not a work is = Bach's or > spurious or doubtful or whatever? Where is this authority coming from? I > remember always, even early in my career, that there was doubt = surrounding > the 8 littles but I don't remember any dispute about the Gigue inter = alia > which are in doubt today! Have new sources, or should I say obviously = more > recent sources "prove?" otherwise. But whence cometh this info. > Thank you, > Robert > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Bach: who decides? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:55:43 -0400   Thank you.   --- Bud-by-the-Beach   What, you live by a beach?   Robert    
(back) Subject: Surf City USA From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:01:27 -0700   Huntington Beach, CA. No, I DON'T surf (chuckle) ... they don't make boards that big.   Cheers,   Bud-by-the-Beach   "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > Thank you. > > --- > Bud-by-the-Beach > > What, you live by a beach? > > Robert    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach: who decides? From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:14:44 EDT     --part1_82.e920451.28a98f34_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Actually this is quite a similar argument to the psalms. Some that = indicate "by David" are probably more correctly, "in the style of David". Are they =   any less psalms? No, of course not.   Whether Bach wrote everything ascribed to him is an interesting = discussion, and deserves attention. But if it's good music, does it really matter, in =   terms of whether it should be played?   My wonderment with this argument of style is, are we so sure that Bach's style was narrow and never inventive or new? Did he always have to write "thus and so"? Or could he have written in a simpler style to fit certain circumstances?   I'm thinking of the 8 Littles. They are good music; little gems of = Baroque style that deserve to be played. Are they any less Baroque gems if it's substantiated that they are not Bach? Not to my mind.   Peace Neil Brown   --part1_82.e920451.28a98f34_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Actually this is quite a similar argument to the psalms. = &nbsp;Some that indicate <BR>"by David" are probably more correctly, "in the style of David". = &nbsp;Are they <BR>any less psalms? No, of course not. <BR> <BR>Whether Bach wrote everything ascribed to him is an interesting = discussion, <BR>and deserves attention. &nbsp;But if it's good music, does it really = matter, in <BR>terms of whether it should be played? &nbsp; <BR> <BR>My wonderment with this argument of style is, are we so sure that = Bach's <BR>style was narrow and never inventive or new? &nbsp;Did he always have = to write <BR>"thus and so"? Or could he have written in a simpler style to fit = certain <BR>circumstances? <BR> <BR>I'm thinking of the 8 Littles. &nbsp;They are good music; little gems = of Baroque <BR>style that deserve to be played. &nbsp;Are they any less Baroque gems = if it's <BR>substantiated that they are not Bach? &nbsp;Not to my mind. <BR> <BR>Peace <BR>Neil Brown</FONT></HTML>   --part1_82.e920451.28a98f34_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Bach: who decides? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:20:29 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C12435.6524ED30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   Oh absolutely. I agree. I love the 8 littles. They are gems and are great studies for what is to come, be they Bach or not!I was just wondering = where the authority was coming from. Some folks tend to feel it necessary to remind others everytime mention of work comes up that is "may not be = Bach." Robert   I'm thinking of the 8 Littles. They are good music; little gems of = Baroque style that deserve to be played. Are they any less Baroque gems if it's substantiated that they are not Bach? Not to my mind.   Peace Neil Brown   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C12435.6524ED30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D386381720-13082001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Oh absolutely. I agree.&nbsp; I love the 8 littles. They are gems and are = great studies for what is to come, be they Bach or not!I was just wondering = where the authority was coming from. Some folks tend to feel it necessary to remind = others everytime mention of work comes up that is "may not be Bach."</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D386381720-13082001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000>Robert</FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT = face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2><BR>I'm thinking of the 8 Littles. &nbsp;They are good music; = little gems of Baroque <BR>style that deserve to be played. &nbsp;Are they any less = Baroque gems if it's <BR>substantiated that they are not Bach? &nbsp;Not to my = mind. <BR><BR>Peace <BR>Neil Brown</FONT> </FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C12435.6524ED30--  
(back) Subject: more Hello? From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:08:50 -0700   Since it is very quiet on the List, maybe this is a good time to spring a tale on unsuspecting Listers, a la what Gene Stroble did on Theatre Organs-L with his entertaining "The Glorious Sound".   What for - might you ask?   Several years back after Big Blue "dumped" me I avoided mid-life crisis by returning to College for two years to polish some skills. In the composition class the assignment was: a short story displaying personal interest, involving dialog in an unusual setting; preferable exhibiting some strife and resolution. Interest? Easy - pipe organs Dialog? I looked around and saw my much younger classmates and decided it should be about and between college students. Strife? where is there more "Angst" then among young people with hormones flowing, especially if they are creative as well?! Unusual? Tell a college student you play with pipe organs and.... oh well you get the drift.   So I wrote this tale called "Allegro" and it got great reviews; the kids in class actually connected. My professor liked it too.   HOWEVER, I don't feel 100% about it because I am NOT a musician. I play seriously WITH pipe organs. I leave the playing ON them to real organists. I did take Music theory though and know the fundamentals of music. Yet I always feel that there are inaccuracies in my musically descriptive segments of the short story. That is where I would really like recommendations from the "pros" , but have been hesitant to share this tale with the List. I would not dare place it on Piporg_L, and I DO admire many of the folks there, but I feel this is the "kinder, gentler" List.   Anyhow... The story is a bit on the sappy romantic side, so should I post it? (in segments) or would it precipitate massive "delete" mashing and flames for a "waste of band width"?   I'll refrain until I read your collective replies,   John V    
(back) Subject: Re: more Hello? From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:21:31 EDT     --part1_ea.19bab45c.28a99edb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I would say send it privately to those who ask to read it. That way u = avoid flames, get some cheerful readers, and all's well with the world.   Neil   --part1_ea.19bab45c.28a99edb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>I would say send it privately to those who ask to read it. = &nbsp;That way u avoid <BR>flames, get some cheerful readers, and all's well with the world. <BR> <BR>Neil</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ea.19bab45c.28a99edb_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: more Hello? From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:24:30 -0700   >I would say send it privately to those who ask to read it. That way u = avoid >flames, get some cheerful readers, and all's well with the world. > >Neil   sounds good   John V --  
(back) Subject: Re: more Hello? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:14:38 EDT   Hi John:   Why don't you send the first installment privately to a few of us and get some feed back? If we like it, we'll let you know, and that way you'd feel =   comfortable sharing it, if you want. :)   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: more Hello? From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:23:59 -0500   John   As list owner and Co-Administrator I say send it! If folks don't like it there is always the delete button <grin> But others might enjoy it. And yes, this is the "kiner" list and I plan for it to remian that way.   David  
(back) Subject: Re: more Hello? From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:42:29 -0500   At 5:23 PM -0500 8/13/01, David Scribner wrote: > And yes, this is the "kiner" list and I plan for it to remian that way.   WOOPS - "KINDER" list!! That is what I get for sending something after a long day and not proof-reading it!   David  
(back) Subject: Re: more Hello? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:47:42 EDT   Hi David:   It sort of brought to mind one of the great names of the baseball hall of fame Ralph Kiner. He played when my Grandfather was still in his prime.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Oragnitis a pipe organ disease From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:09:57 EDT   Hi David:   Many of us were born with an incurrable disease called Organitis. It attacks the senses in a most curious and pleasing way. The console and pipes appeal to the eyes, and the sound to the ears.   I'm so pleased that Mike Gittleman was invited by Nichols and Simpson to learn the art of voicing. He's a very compelling and nice chap, and I wish him all the best. I do hope he'll be able to take advantage of this opportunity. I know he's very excieted, I would be too. I'll carry that same fire in my heart, til my last day on earth.   What is an organ shop? Well, the sweet smell of fine wood being worked, the smell and heat of pipe metal being poured, flux and smoke from the pipe makers irons. The smell of leather carefully tanned being cut, dryed and glued. Keyboards and stop controls being uncrated. Organs set up and playing. The voicing machine going day in and day out. The sound of the finished product, and knowledge of your part in building it. The organist's profound delight in playing your organ for the first time. Yes, I've got it real bad too.   All the best,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Gigue From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:13:08 -0500   And just where does one like Felix Hell go on a grandiose vacation?   Glenda Sutton        
(back) Subject: Re: Bach: who decides? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:22:21 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002D_01C12424.E49558E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I agree with Neil. I don't think Bach's children or his pupils sprang =3D up fully grown and skilled like Venus, so I'm sure he wrote some simple = =3D and simplistic music, whether preserved or not, for exercise music.   I always doubt if a "Bach" piece I'm learning was written by the man, =3D but remain extremely skeptical about all these 20th century prophets who = =3D can now tell us who did and didn't write which piece of music or which =3D book of the Bible. We never know the answer - It's kind of like faith, = =3D huh?=3D20   Glenda Sutton   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002D_01C12424.E49558E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I agree with Neil.&nbsp; I don't = think =3D Bach's=3D20 children or his pupils sprang up fully grown and skilled like Venus, so = =3D I'm sure=3D20 he wrote some simple and simplistic music, whether preserved or not, for = =3D   exercise music.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I always doubt if a "Bach" piece I'm = =3D learning was=3D20 written by the man, but remain extremely skeptical&nbsp;about all these = =3D 20th=3D20 century prophets who can now tell us who did and didn't write which =3D piece of=3D20 music or which book of the Bible.&nbsp; We never know the answer - It's = =3D kind of=3D20 like faith, huh? </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Glenda =3D Sutton</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002D_01C12424.E49558E0--    
(back) Subject: New Territory From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:39:55 -0400   Hi Everyone, It will be my first time at IRC tonight. I look forward to meeting you all in person (well sorta more in person, anyway), and I hope to be able to keep up. If I fumble like a darned fool at the beginning, just straighten me up. It's hard to know how to be, if folks won't tell you. :-) The directions for installing the software, and joining the chat, which I found on the Pipechat site, were very simple and complete, and I wonder why I didn't try it before. Oh well, at least I'm going to start tonight, and I am sure this new territory will be very interesting. See you there.   Mike Gettelman    
(back) Subject: Re: more Hello? From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:56:40 -0500   At 05:08 PM 8/13/01 -0700, John wrote: >Since it is very quiet on the List, maybe this is a good time to >spring a tale on unsuspecting Listers, <snip> > That is where I >would really like recommendations from the "pros" , but have been >hesitant to share this tale with the List. I would not dare place it >on Piporg_L, and I DO admire many of the folks there, but I feel >this is the "kinder, gentler" List. <snip> >I'll refrain until I read your collective replies     Hi, John!   I'd love to read your tale! Be certain you're careful with that "appeal for help" though...<g>...I bet you'll *get* it!! <lol>   Personally, I think I'd prefer it in installments, rather than one = enormous posting...and the servers/digests/etc might like it better that way too. = I look forward to reading it either way!   Thanks, also, for your compliment of our List and fellow Listmembers. I *do* hope that your estimation is truly correct -- that's what we aim = for!!   Cordially,   Tim Bovard Pipechat Co-Administrator        
(back) Subject: Re: Oragnitis a pipe organ disease From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:25:47 -0400   Thanks for your kind thoughts Ron, but I would quickly caution that = Joe Nichols and I have shared some emails that suggest I might be considered = to train as a Voicer at N&S. Such a position also may not be available for = the next year or two, so I wanted to be publicly clear about all the facts. Excitement is an understatement for how I feel at this point. Organ building and voicing. To learn how to do them, and do them well, would be = the highest honor of my life. Organitis, The Sickness, or what ever term you = wish to use for what we all suffer from, the disease is euphoric and grand. Thank you all for the best wishes. I will try hard not to let you = down. Mike Gettelman   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Hi David: > > Many of us were born with an incurrable disease called Organitis. > It attacks the senses in a most curious and pleasing way. The > console and pipes appeal to the eyes, and the sound to the ears. > > I'm so pleased that Mike Gittleman was invited by Nichols and > Simpson to learn the art of voicing. He's a very compelling and > nice chap, and I wish him all the best. I do hope he'll be able to > take advantage of this opportunity. I know he's very excieted, > I would be too. I'll carry that same fire in my heart, til my last day > on earth. > > What is an organ shop? Well, the sweet smell of fine wood being worked, > the smell and heat of pipe metal being poured, flux and smoke from the > pipe makers irons. The smell of leather carefully tanned being cut, = dryed > and glued. Keyboards and stop controls being uncrated. Organs set > up and playing. The voicing machine going day in and day out. The > sound of the finished product, and knowledge of your part in building = it. > The organist's profound delight in playing your organ for the > first time. Yes, I've got it real bad too. > > All the best, > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org