PipeChat Digest #2310 - Tuesday, August 14, 2001
 
RE: Bach: who decides?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: more Hello?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Charles M. Courboin and pedaling
  by "alpat5" <alpat5@bellatlantic.net>
Re: Charles M. Courboin and pedaling
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Allegro
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
RE: Allegro
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Yet more Courboin
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Allegro - Part 1
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Allegro
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: more Hello?
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Surf City USA
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Allegro - Part 1
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Allegro - Part 1
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Yet more Courboin(Longish)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Allegro - Part 1
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: Yet more Courboin(Longish)
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Yet more Courboin(Shortish)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Courboin ( very Shortish)
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Yet more Courboin(Short)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Allegro - Part 1
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
RE: Yet more Courboin(Short)
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Allegro - Part 1
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Allegro - Part 1
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Bach: who decides? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:42:01 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C124C6.E531DF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   Faith who? (hee, hee, hee). We never know the answer - It's kind of like faith, huh? Glenda Sutton   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C124C6.E531DF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D630354113-14082001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Faith who?&nbsp; (hee, hee, hee).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D630354113-14082001><FONT face=3DGaramond color=3D#800000></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D630354113-14082001></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;We never know the answer - It's kind of like faith, huh? </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Glenda Sutton</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C124C6.E531DF60--  
(back) Subject: RE: more Hello? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:49:05 -0400   Wel then, I too would be interested in reading it. Robert   -----Original Message----- From: John Vanderlee [mailto:jovanderlee@vassar.edu] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:25 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: more Hello?     >I would say send it privately to those who ask to read it. That way u avoid >flames, get some cheerful readers, and all's well with the world. > >Neil   sounds good   John V --   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Charles M. Courboin and pedaling From: "alpat5" <alpat5@bellatlantic.net> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:49:14 -0400   Hi list, Just wanted to thank everyone for their apt rejoinders to my Mendelssohn questions. I'll be sure to use all of the good advise. I've noticed quite a few people on this list are fans of Charles M. Courboin. I happen to own a collection of Etude music magazines which are absolutely wonderful. Old as they are, they never lose there applicability, in my humble opinion. Does anyone, especially you 'oldies', remember the Etude? Well, while going through my collection I found a conference with Charles Courboin entitled "Practical Hints for the Organist." In this article he gives many helpful hints and suggestions to organist. Concerning out little pedaling controversy he states, "....Some schools of thought hold that the knees should always be kept together. I do not agree with this--for the reason that such a posture is not natural, and hence works against the very relaxation which is so vital to good playing . It is my belief that the best results are obtained when the knees are not 'held' or kept in any fixed posture, but allowed to move freely (as in walking) so that they are at all times over the note which is being played. Certainly, this requires a bit more moving about, but it is a natural motion and thus conducive to greater ease in playing. You will find, as I have found, that by allowing the knees to move to a point over which the note is being played, by keeping the leg relaxed, and by turning the foot in the natural toes-out walking position, you will greatly enhance the ease of your playing and minimize the risk of unnatural tension." This is only an excerpt from this article. I believe I have another one by Courboin too. I have some articles by Horowitz, Biggs, Artur Rubinstein, and others. I hope this is well received. If you like, I could write out the entire article and post it...? Interestingly enough, I found an organ article entitled "Keeping up Mendelssohn." It was written by a student of Lemare offering interesting insights into playing the Sonatas and Preludes and Fugues. Allan- by- the- Atlantic      
(back) Subject: Re: Charles M. Courboin and pedaling From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:35:03 EDT   Hi Allen:   I'd like to hear more.....!   Ron  
(back) Subject: Allegro From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:57:40 -0700   Dear List   Ok the "Ayes" have it. The list administrators convinced me. Many Listers encouraged me. Later today I'll post the first page of "Allegro". There are only 8 installments.   If you like it fine, tell me. If you don't like it you can hit "delete" as soon as it hits your in-box. Please understand that as I read it through, there are many things I saw that I did not like, and I'll probably keep revising it every time I see it. They tell me that's the curse of authors and composers, never fully satisfied with their work, always intent on revision.   Anyhow, this is a little romantic tale of two young people in a pipe organ setting. As I posted earlier, I am not happy with the technical music aspects of it, and would love to improve that part. Am I qualified to write about kids? 1. From 1994 I spent 2 1/2 years - starting at age 49 - going to college full time as a ''Senior" student. 2. I now work at a college (Vassar) 3. My wife is a music teacher in a public school 4. My wife is an organist 5. I have two teenage daughters.   John V  
(back) Subject: RE: Allegro From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:00:57 -0400   Am I qualified to write about kids? 1. From 1994 I spent 2 1/2 years - starting at age 49 - going to college full time as a ''Senior" student. 2. I now work at a college (Vassar) 3. My wife is a music teacher in a public school 4. My wife is an organist 5. I have two teenage daughters.   John V ------   And, you forgot to add that once you were one!   Robert BC  
(back) Subject: Yet more Courboin From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:42:10 -0400   I remember someone stating that Courboin was from Belgium? My recollection is that my then (200 years ago) organ instructor told me Courboin was a Canadian.    
(back) Subject: Allegro - Part 1 From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:46:05 -0700   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1214307730=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" ; format=3D"flowed"   Allegro   "As you depart this House of the Lord our God", intoned the priest, "may the Lord bless you and keep you, in His Holy Name.......... Amen." "Amen", repeated Samantha as she opened her eyes and looked toward the chancel where Jeremy sat at the organ console of St. Tobias' cathedral in Kingston. Since he didn't need her as a page turner today, she was seated in a front pew. Final exam studies had limited Jeremy's time this past week, so he had decided on Charpentier's joyous "Te Deum," a soaring piece. He had long since committed the piece to memory; it was a standard in his repertoire. Knowing this, Samantha felt a rush of anticipation; she loved his visceral interpretations when unrestricted by sheet music.   Father Cramer cued, and Jeremy launched into a full brass opening which hinted at things to come. His fingers danced accross the ivory keyboards, punctuating phrases with calculated manipulation of the draw-knobs. His feet were a blur on the pedal keys where he freely improvised and echoed his musical ornamentation on the manuals.   Today, many of those who usually departed the church quickly, stopped and listened with a smile of wonder. Some of the more musically astute turned to the priest: "Isn't he still in college, father? What year is he in?" "I believe this is his last semester at Kingston University." "Ever since he started here last fall, he never ceases to amaze." "The girl, are they an "Item"?" another asked. The priest smiled: "Who knows what goes on in kids' minds. I don't ask, but they do seem to spend a lot of time together." "I suppose he studies organ at Kingston?" "Yes, and he majors in composition." Father Cramer had stepped outside where a brilliant day shone on the outgoing parishioners of St. Tobias. The gothic cathedral was easily the largest church in Kingston. With its soaring roof lines and spires reaching heavenward, it was impressive to architects and worshippers alike. Musically, it was a gem. Its pipe organ was of majestic proportions, funded over many years by benevolent parishioners. It more than stood up to the cavernous acoustical space that it was required to fill, and did so with a grandeur that did justice to its designation as an instrument of historical significance. The "Te Deum" sang out after those that followed Father Cramer. "Composition, father?" "Yes, he uses the church quite often to work on compositions. I believe it's part of his thesis requirement." "We'll miss him when he graduates....God bless him." "I think the Lord already has," said Father Cramer with a twinkle in his eye.   -- -- --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1214307730=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <html><head><style type=3D"text/css"><!-- blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li { padding-top: 0 ; padding-bottom: 0 } --></style><title>Allegro - Part 1</title></head><body> <div>Allegro</div> <div><br></div> <div><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;As you depart this House of the Lord our God&quot;, intoned the priest, &quot;may the Lord bless you and keep you, in His Holy Name..........&nbsp; Amen.&quot;<br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;Amen&quot;, repeated Samantha as she opened her eyes and looked toward the chancel where Jeremy sat at the organ console of St. Tobias' cathedral in Kingston. Since he didn't need her as a page turner today, she was seated in a front pew. Final exam studies had limited Jeremy's time this past week, so he had decided on Charpentier's joyous &quot;Te Deum,&quot; a&nbsp; soaring piece. He had long since committed the piece to memory; it was a standard in his repertoire. Knowing this, Samantha felt a rush of anticipation; she loved his visceral interpretations when unrestricted by sheet music.<br> <br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>Father Cramer cued, and&nbsp; Jeremy&nbsp; launched into a full brass opening which hinted at things to come. His fingers danced accross the ivory keyboards, punctuating phrases with calculated manipulation of the draw-knobs. His feet were a blur on the pedal keys where he freely improvised and echoed his musical ornamentation on the manuals.<br> <x-tab>&nbsp; </x-tab><br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>Today, many of those who usually departed the church quickly, stopped and listened with a smile of wonder.&nbsp; Some of the more musically astute turned to the priest: &quot;Isn't he still in college, father? What year is he in?&quot;<br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;I believe this is his last semester at&nbsp; Kingston University.&quot;<br> <x-tab>&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;Ever since he started here last fall, he never ceases to amaze.&quot;<br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;The girl, are they an "Item"?" another asked.<x-tab>&nbsp; </x-tab><br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>The priest smiled: &quot;Who knows what goes on in kids' minds. I don't ask, but they do seem to spend a lot of time together.&quot;</div> <div><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;I suppose he studies organ at Kingston?&quot;</div> <div><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;Yes, and he majors in composition.&quot;<br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>Father Cramer had stepped outside where a brilliant day shone on the outgoing parishioners of St. Tobias. The gothic cathedral was easily the largest church in Kingston. With its soaring roof lines and spires reaching heavenward, it was impressive to architects and worshippers alike. Musically, it was a gem. Its pipe organ was of majestic proportions, funded over many years by benevolent parishioners. It more than stood up to the cavernous acoustical space that it was required to fill, and did so with a grandeur that did justice to its designation as an instrument of historical significance. The "Te Deum" sang out after those that followed Father Cramer.<br> <x-tab>&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;Composition, father?&quot;<br> <x-tab>&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;Yes, he uses the church quite often to work on compositions. I believe it's part of his thesis requirement.&quot;<br> <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;We'll miss him when he graduates....God bless him.&quot;</div> <div><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </x-tab>&quot;I think the Lord already has,&quot; said Father Cramer with a twinkle in his eye. </div> <div><br></div> <div><tt>--</tt></div> </body> </html> --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1214307730=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D--  
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:50:21 EDT     --part1_ab.da8ee0e.28aaa2bd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/14/01 10:58:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jovanderlee@vassar.edu writes:     > 5. I have two teenage daughters. >   My condolences!!   Vicki   --part1_ab.da8ee0e.28aaa2bd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Calligraph421 BT" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated = 8/14/01 10:58:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>jovanderlee@vassar.edu writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">5. I have two = teenage daughters. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Calligraph421 BT" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>My condolences!! <BR> <BR>Vicki</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ab.da8ee0e.28aaa2bd_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: more Hello? From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:56:50 EDT     --part1_76.e3eba50.28aaa442_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/13/01 5:09:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jovanderlee@vassar.edu writes:     > Anyhow... The story is a bit on the sappy romantic side, so should I > post it? (in segments) or would it precipitate massive "delete" > mashing and flames for a "waste of band width"? >   Do post it, with the proper heading so those who don't want to read can delete. (I want to read it!)   Vicki   --part1_76.e3eba50.28aaa442_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Calligraph421 BT" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated = 8/13/01 5:09:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>jovanderlee@vassar.edu writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Anyhow... The = story is a bit on the sappy romantic side, so should I <BR>post it? (in segments) or would it precipitate massive "delete" <BR>mashing and flames for a "waste of band width"? <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Calligraph421 BT" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Do post it, with the proper heading so those who don't want to read = can <BR>delete. &nbsp;(I want to read it!) <BR> <BR>Vicki</FONT></HTML>   --part1_76.e3eba50.28aaa442_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Surf City USA From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:02:22 EDT     --part1_6d.188d7a4f.28aaa58e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/13/01 4:02:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > Huntington Beach, CA. No, I DON'T surf (chuckle) ... they don't make > boards that big. >   Well, Bud, there's always body-surfing... I do believe the Pacific is big enough! :-)   --part1_6d.188d7a4f.28aaa58e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Calligraph421 BT" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated = 8/13/01 4:02:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Huntington Beach, = CA. No, I DON'T surf (chuckle) ... they don't make <BR>boards that big. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Calligraph421 BT" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Well, Bud, there's always body-surfing... I do believe the Pacific is = big <BR>enough! &nbsp;:-)</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6d.188d7a4f.28aaa58e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro - Part 1 From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:21:08 EDT     --part1_117.3266556.28aaa9f4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   A good start, John.   Vicki   --part1_117.3266556.28aaa9f4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Calligraph421 BT" LANG=3D"0">A good start, John. <BR> <BR>Vicki</FONT></HTML>   --part1_117.3266556.28aaa9f4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro - Part 1 From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:52:07 -0400   At 11:46 AM 8/14/01 -0700, you wrote: >Allegro > > "As you depart this House of the Lord our God", intoned the > priest, "may the Lord bless you and keep you, in His Holy > Name.......... Amen." > "Amen", repeated Samantha as she opened her eyes and looked > toward the chancel where Jeremy sat at the organ console of St. Tobias' > cathedral in Kingston.   John and list members.   I rather think that this City of Kingston in the narrative is only in the author's head, - for it certainly doesn't seem to be at all like the Kingston where I reside!   Our Cathedral, by the way is St. George's Cathedral, and the University here is Queen's University, - and they do teach composition in the School of Music there!   All the same, if you like the tale, then on with it!   Bob Conway   Kingston, Ontario, CANADA.      
(back) Subject: Re: Yet more Courboin(Longish) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:54:49 EDT   Hi Robert:   Charles Courboin was never a Canadian, he was from Antwerp, Belgium. Charles became a naturalized US citizen. Ray Biswanger's three part artical about him appears in the TAO Sept. Nov. and Dec. 1996.   Charles at age 16-18 was packing in 12,000 or more per concert in Antwerp Cathedral. This was 1902-1904. Like I said before, He was the Felix Hell of his time right along with Fermin Swinnen also a Bel. Both were good friends. Fermin and his wife and Charles and his wife are buried in adjacent plots in the same cemetary, they were so close. Both were brilliant organists, and were never in the slightest jealous of each other. These two were drawn together like moths to a flame.   When Charles came to live in the US, his fame followed him. His concerts were always attended by 10,000-12,000 people and people turned away. This was from 1904 when he arrived. How many artists can make that claim today? He and Fermin were the phenominon of a golden era in music making. They were young, talented, charismatic, and above all loved what they did. Charles commanded and got $1,000. fees for weddings in the teens and twenties of the 20th century, and got $75.00 per hour for organ lessons at a time the average man made $12.50 a month. Lynnwood Farnum couldn't even make that claim!   Before Television, Videos, DVD, and LP records, at the beginning of Radio, Charles was better known than Fox or Biggs put together. He was tall, dashing and very much sought after for his musical talent. Flor Peeters was a contemporary, who remained in Belgium, and played at St. Rambout's Cathedral Mechelen for 60 years. There were quite a few Bel's that made their mark in the world of organ, and music composition. Two generations before Charles there was another famous Bel., Cesar Franck. You could say they were NATURALS! They lived and breathed music from the very depths of their being.   All the best,   Ron Severin   PS Fred Swann studied with Charles Courboin for sure. The relaxed way he plays gives it away!  
(back) Subject: RE: Allegro - Part 1 From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:58:33 -0400   for it certainly doesn't seem to be at all like the Kingston where I reside!   Our Cathedral, by the way is St. George's Cathedral, and the University here is Queen's University, - and they do teach composition in the School of Music there!   All the same, if you like the tale, then on with it!   Bob Conway, Kingston, Ontario, CANADA. ------ Haven't you ever heard of poetic license or fiction "based on" historic persons and places but not factual to a T!! It also prevents lawsuits.   Robert Colasacco  
(back) Subject: RE: Yet more Courboin(Longish) From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:08:52 -0400   Thanks Ron. Very interesting. Is it possible he came to US via Canada? But aside from the fact that not even that is the case in my so called Canada thinking, fact is I may just not be recollecting correctly. What I DO remember about my organ instructor telling me was that in addition to the courses I was taking at the NY College of Music, I should attend masses = and Vespers at St. Pat's for Courboin was master and the services were 100% according to him. AND THEY WERE: no question there. For two years I was there every Sunday for the Solemn Pontifical Mass at 10 am and Vespers at = 4 pm with my Liber Usualis where Courboin ruled. Services, BTW were still in latin. Vatican Council II was still just winding down. I souldn't wait for it all to end so I could sit and be lifted = spiritually by the recessional be it composed or improvised, it was spectacular every time. Robert  
(back) Subject: Re: Yet more Courboin(Shortish) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:24:33 EDT   Hi Robert:   Charles played Casavants for a while, that's as close as he ever got to Canada. He stepped off the boat in NYC harbor, and the Statue of Liberty. He already had a job waiting for him in upstate NY.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Courboin ( very Shortish) From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:28:32 -0400   Ron, I have no idea what he looked like. All he is to me is a back sitting on = the organ bench in the organ loft of St. Patrick's Cathedral. How sad. I have = to get those back issues of TAO. I wonder if there's a biography somewhere. Robert  
(back) Subject: Re: Yet more Courboin(Short) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:33:17 EDT   Robert:   You lucky dog! Two years every Sunday at St. Pat's! Fred Swann often turned pages and was in the gallery often during the 40's and 50's when Charles played. Charles also played a lot from memory and improvised. It was service music that required page turns at times. The big pieces were memorized! Fred Swann was a student of Charles Courboin and wrote part of the 1996 tribute in the TAO. It is said, Charles had over 400 pieces in hand and under finger at any given time. He wasn't a slavish practicer either, it was just there!   Ron  
(back) Subject: RE: Allegro - Part 1 From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:38:20 -0400     >Robert Colasacco wrote:   >Haven't you ever heard of poetic license or fiction "based on" historic >persons and places but not factual to a T!! It also prevents lawsuits.   Robert, and list members,   I most certainly have! I am not suggesting that the location is likely to =   be factual, - I just wanted to say that it isn't the place where I live!   In fact, having taught at the University for a quarter of a century, - not =   in Music though, - I can assure you that many of the courses offered are given with that same "poetic licence"!   Bob Conway , <grinning>    
(back) Subject: RE: Yet more Courboin(Short) From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:41:36 -0400   It is said, Charles had over 400 pieces in hand and under finger at any given time. He wasn't a slavish practicer either, it was just there!   Ron ---- It was obvious. As I said elsewhere, for him playing the organ was as natural as breathing is to us all. At least so it sounded. Magnificent.  
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro - Part 1 From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:03:23 -0700   I guess I should have added a disclaimer about all locations and characters being purely fictional. Although there is a Kingston, NY just to my north with many fine churches and organs.   John V  
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro - Part 1 From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:14:28 -0400   At 02:03 PM 8/14/01 -0700, John wrote: >I guess I should have added a disclaimer about all locations and >characters being purely fictional. Although there is a Kingston, NY just >to my north with many fine churches and organs. > >John V I know it, and there is also a Queen's, (College, I think), where there also used to be a Professor Conway in the Mechanical Engineering Department. On occasions we would get mail or a parcel delivered to the wrong person!   I have been retired for over ten years, so it doesn't happen anymore!   Carry on with your yarn spinning, John!   Bob Conway