PipeChat Digest #2320 - Friday, August 17, 2001
 
Re: Allegro  part 8 & End
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Allegro - part 6
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Jaeckel Tracker Organs
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Allegro  part 8 & End
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Allegro  part 8 & End
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
who decides?
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Jaeckel Tracker Organs
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Allegro  part 8 & End
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Allegro  part 8 & End
  by <AMADPoet@aol.com>
Re: Mixtures to scream or not to scream
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Allegro - part 6
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Allegro  part 8 & End
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Allegro - part 8
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: Mixtures to scream or not to scream
  by "Ron & Mandy" <ronwest@spiderweb.com.au>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Allegro part 8 & End From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:41:40 -0500   Well, now you've done it! I go by to check on my mom every day at = lunchtime if I'm in town. She always has "As the World Turns" on, but barely = watches it. I got engrossed in the plot today, because the scumbag on the show is being prosecuted for attempted murder, and it's going to turn out that the beautiful sweet jilted girl on the show will be the culprit. I was late getting back to work!   It's all your fault!   Glenda (who is lusting after romance novels now)   P.S. BTW, Rosamund Pilcher wrote a book recently about a guy organist - cannot remember the name, but someone from church made me read it. The story also ran in one of the women's magazines. One of Jan Karon's books about Mitford involved an organist. Just a couple of offerings for you = who may be hooked.       ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: Allegro part 8 & End     > She said nothing and joined him on the bench. The hand-written notes > stared at her. She flipped through the pages. Occasionally she traced > the writings with a finger. She hummed parts of the music, but was > otherwise still. More time passed as she seemed in thought. Jeremy > was becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the silence. > "It's not you", she finally said. "I see the potential, but > it's like you don't want it better. The music is constricted, stuck > like you are. Let it go! Let yourself go! Be free! > Jeremy looked at her, trying to figure her out: "OK...., so you have a > nice way of saying that it's a lousy piece." > Samantha still didn't answer. She picked up more pages and > continued to study them. Impatiently, Jeremy tried to take them from > her. > "Shhh, shhh....no....wait..." she said and picked up a pencil > that lay on the keydesk. Then, softly, her voice began to sing some > of the thematic phrases. Or so he thought.... but they were.... > different! Subtly, she made changes: Progressions were altered. > Modulations that went minor went major or were augmented. Not > everywhere, just enough so as not to destroy the integrity of the > composition, but to breathe some life into it. She marked some of > her alterations. Gradually, Jeremy's annoyance turned to fascination; > she even altered some of the rhythmic accents! A warm glow began to > come over him; he looked at her, listened to her, totally mesmerized. > A smile broke out on his face. She was making it work! > > "Let it be free, Jeremy," said Samantha, after she stopped. > "Let it go..... couldn't you hear it? Just give it wings and it will > speak to > you. Don't you see? All you have to do is write it down." > "Will you help me with his?" he said, now breathlessly, and > picked a clean sheet of manuscript paper. He began jotting down > notes: "Will you Sam? Help me? Please?" > Tenderly, with liquid eyes, she looked into his. > "You don't need me for this, Jer'," she whispered. Just let > yourself be free, and the music will follow. Let go of the past, and > I'll be here when you need me. I'll be here if you trust me, Jeremy." > His heart was pounding, yet there was an immense letting go. > He cleared his throat as his voice grew husky: "I was right Sam. I am > an idiot. It is all right in front of me. She's not worth it. She'd > never understand this stuff. You do. You showed me. Oh Sam, I should > have told you sooner, and .....and.... trusted you." > "Jerk!" she laughed through happy tears. > He looked at her and fought for control; his own eyes were filling up. > Then his hands cupped her face and kissed her intently. She responded > with hunger, hugging him tightly. His lips brushed her eyes and > back to her throat. A discordant roar exploded from the Bombarde > division as her shoulders pressed some keys. Their reverie disrupted, > both sat up....and began to laugh. The laughter echoed through the > nave. > "I think I have some work to do, Sam. Someone is giving us a hint." > "Well, remember that pose when you get back to the dorm," she > laughed, and her eyes glittered as she stood up. He watched her turn > and walk toward the doors. > "I love you Samantha," Jeremy called out after her. > "I know," she said, turning around for a moment, "And I knew > it all along." > By the time the big doors closed again, he was writing feverishly. > > END > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro - part 6 From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:43:34 -0500   Do other churches have happy hours after services too? Ours is the only = one in town.   Glenda Sutton (who wants happy hour BEFORE the service)   ----- Original Message ----- From: <RonSeverin@aol.com>   > Hi Joe: > > I hope this has a happy ending, the priest intervenes, they have a nice long talk over a vintage sherry.      
(back) Subject: Re: Jaeckel Tracker Organs From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:58:18 EDT   If the organ is a good one, and a musical one, it shall survive. From all reports, Mr. Jaeckel is exceptionally talented and capable.   One particular college in the USA received, with much fanfare and = publicity generated by the builder and the one man who railroaded the installation, = an appalling academic concert hall organ which was supposed to be the = ultimate expression of the North European Baroque Ideal. The results are = astonishing: no faculty, no incoming students, no department. And even if there were people to fill these ghostly positions, the organ barely works and by all accounts, is impossible to service and tune.   The real outrage is that some of the finest of America's A-list mechanical =   action builders had bids in, but their wait lists were long because they = were building lasting cultural monuments for other important institutions. = This builder put on such a good show, and has such a sycophantic cult following =   (although quite limited in number), that it took only ONE person, frothing = at the mouth with fervent praise, to railroad this thing through. The = faculty member in question died shortly after the instrument was installed.   The upshot? The organ cannot even convincingly play Baroque music. What = a nightmare.   I am absolutely sure this will NOT be the case with the Brevard College Jaeckel, but it is a lesson we should all keep in the backs of our minds = as we plan organs for others in the future. These are organs for OTHERS, not =   US. As musicians, builders, and teachers, we must understand that = blinders and tunnel vision are not always the best way to go.  
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro part 8 & End From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:08:31 EDT     --part1_ae.1958de1d.28add69f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/16/01 9:44:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes:     > She always has "As the World Turns" on, but barely watches > it. I got engrossed in the plot today, because the scumbag on the show = is > being prosecuted for attempted murder, and it's going to turn out that = the > beautiful sweet jilted girl on the show will be the culprit.   No, no, no, no.... the sweet little blond is an ultra-tart duplicitious, etc. The killer is a screwball who has a crush on the darkhaired x-wife = of the cop boyfriend of the ultra-tart, etc. But, I don't watch THAT much! = heeheehee Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_ae.1958de1d.28add69f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/16/01 9:44:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">She always has "As = the World Turns" on, but barely watches <BR>it. &nbsp;I got engrossed in the plot today, because the scumbag on = the show is <BR>being prosecuted for attempted murder, and it's going to turn out that = the <BR>beautiful sweet jilted girl on the show will be the culprit. = &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>No, no, no, no.... &nbsp;the sweet little blond is an ultra-tart = duplicitious, <BR>etc. &nbsp;&nbsp;The killer is a screwball who has a crush on the = darkhaired x-wife of <BR>the cop boyfriend of the ultra-tart, etc. &nbsp;&nbsp;But, I don't = watch THAT much! &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>heeheehee <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ae.1958de1d.28add69f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro part 8 & End From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:11:43 EDT     --part1_93.ec221ed.28add75f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/16/01 9:44:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes:     > Glenda (who is lusting after romance novels now) > If you want a good romance novel and one based on the Anglican Church, get =   Susan Howatch's series which includes, Glittering Images (all of the = titles are similar). It's terrific and follows the progeny of the beginning characters. Extremely well-written.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_93.ec221ed.28add75f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/16/01 9:44:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Glenda (who is = lusting after romance novels now) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">If you want a good romance novel and one based = on the Anglican Church, get <BR>Susan Howatch's series which includes, Glittering Images (all of the = titles <BR>are similar). &nbsp;It's terrific and follows the progeny of the = beginning <BR>characters. &nbsp;&nbsp;Extremely well-written. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_93.ec221ed.28add75f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: who decides? From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:18:14 -0700   I've had some interesting experiences over the years in doing organ designs ...   One well-known tracker builder said to me, "I'll NEVER build a sub-octave coupler on a one-manual organ" ... when I pointed him to several VERY respectable 19th-century examples, he stopped answering my letters (grin).   That same builder wouldn't HEAR of a Pedal to Pedal 10 2/3 coupler, a favorite of Hook & Hastings in small organs or bad rooms where the bass didn't have a chance to bloom.   One builder ACTUALLY said to me, "Well, WE want a Twelfth 2 2/3 on the Great, whether you do or not" (chuckle).   Another builder once said to me, "I'll put tierces in my organs when the clients are willing to PAY for them," thus eliminating the possibility of playing a whole country and century's worth of organ music. It never occurred to him to suggest a tierce instead of a second celeste on a two-manual organ (!).   Some BASIC things like that need to be there, whether the current organist thinks he needs them or not. I KNOW what our service needs, but I'm also nearing retirement ... I'm looking over my shoulder at my (as-yet-unknown) successor ... I want to leave HIM an organ that isn't so eccentric he won't be able to play it, while at the same time locking in what's needed for a service that will never change.   Design is a tricky business ... most organists think they can draw a stoplist; the vast majority CAN'T. Time and again I look at wasteful, expensive designs in the Diapason and TAO, and say, "AHA! That's an organist-designed organ." Then I usually look at the name of the CHURCH and wonder how in tarnation that organist is going to play the organ and choral literature of THAT denomination on THAT organ.   What I find MOST appalling is that a lot of the large so-called "boutique" organs being built today don't have the basics for the service OR the literature ... a three or four manual "eclectic" organ with only one 8' principal in the manuals, for instance; or the Oboe at 4' in the Swell, instead of 8', or an organ of 100+ stops without a Gros Tierce and Gros Nasard on the Great, or chorus reeds in the Choir.   OTOH, most builders aren't organists; most don't know the literature, or at least the finer points of registering it. One builder couldn't understand why if an organ could have only one manual Trumpet stop, I wanted it in the Swell, rather than the Great. When I said, "for Franck," all I got was a blank look.   I said to one builder, "I think you'd better attend a High Mass at our church and HEAR how the organ is actually USED in the service ... there aren't many places hereabouts that do the kind of service we do." Haven't seem him (OR his proposal) yet (grin).   In our particular service, accompanying in the grand 19th century English manner is PARAMOUNT ... organ literature per se plays a relatively minor part in our music program, mostly because of the tight Mass schedule. But even if the schedule WASN'T tight, the organ would STILL have to be a colorful ACCOMPANIMENTAL instrument first and foremost ... you should have HEARD the yelping when I specified full 16-8-4 inter AND intra-manual couplers (grin). My response? "Exclude 'em from the mixtures (we're having electric action because the placement of a fire-door precludes an encased tracker organ) if that'll salve your conscience, but they're GONNA be there."   I THINK we've ended up with a design that CAN play most things reasonably well, albeit with a Victorian English accent. There are worse things ...   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Jaeckel Tracker Organs From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:18:34 EDT     --part1_9a.18bf7362.28add8fa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/16/01 9:59:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes:     > These are organs for OTHERS, not > US. As musicians, builders, and teachers, we must understand that = blinders > and tunnel vision are not always the best way to go. >   Your point is hard to eke out. The organ in question is evidently NOT even a good organ to begin with. If it's not a good organ the, of course, = it will not play much, if anything. Me thinks your brush is too broad.   It's difficult to tell where you lay the blame for the failure: the builder, the design, the construction, the style!   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_9a.18bf7362.28add8fa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/16/01 9:59:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>TubaMagna@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">These are organs = for OTHERS, not <BR>US. &nbsp;As musicians, builders, and teachers, we must understand = that blinders <BR>and tunnel vision are not always the best way to go. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Your point is hard to eke out. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The organ in = question is evidently NOT <BR>even a good organ to begin with. &nbsp;If it's not a good organ the, = of course, it <BR>will not play much, if anything. &nbsp;&nbsp;Me thinks your brush is = too broad. <BR> <BR>It's difficult to tell where you lay the blame for the failure: <BR>the builder, <BR>the design, <BR>the construction, <BR>the style! <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_9a.18bf7362.28add8fa_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro part 8 & End From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:26:45 -0400   In a message dated 8/16/01 9:44:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes:       > She always has "As the World Turns" on, but barely watches > it. I got engrossed in the plot today, because the scumbag on the show = is > being prosecuted for attempted murder, and it's going to turn out that = the > beautiful sweet jilted girl on the show will be the culprit.   No, no, no, no.... the sweet little blond is an ultra-tart duplicitious, etc. The killer is a screwball who has a crush on the darkhaired x-wife = of the cop boyfriend of the ultra-tart, etc. But, I don't watch THAT much! heeheehee   However, Beware!   The policy of Topicallity as enunciated by the organ list owners has = resulted in serious Disciplinary Action even on the theatre organ list where those instruments used to accompany the actors in the radio dramas that my grandma drove me = nuts   with as it boomed out of the Stomberg-Carlson.   (in the 50s, it was really crappy cheap organ music)   The 40s stuff was better.   Stan      
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro part 8 & End From: <AMADPoet@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:34:55 EDT   In a message dated 8/16/01 9:09:43 PM Central Daylight Time, Glenda and = Bruce write:   << She always has "As the World Turns" on, but barely watches > it. I got engrossed in the plot today, because the scumbag on the show = is > being prosecuted for attempted murder, and it's going to turn out that = the > beautiful sweet jilted girl on the show will be the culprit. No, no, no, no.... the sweet little blond is an ultra-tart duplicitious, =   etc. The killer is a screwball who has a crush on the darkhaired x-wife = of the cop boyfriend of the ultra-tart, etc. But, I don't watch THAT much! = heeheehee >>   Okay, I'm getting a little worried about you two...   John, have you considered contacting American Organist and requesting that = a fiction section be added to the magazine? You could start a juicy serial romance and rule the world. Just be sure and make Ron your second in = command- I want one of these adjustable benches he's designing in his head. ;o)   Mandy  
(back) Subject: Re: Mixtures to scream or not to scream From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:34:04 +0800   Ron, I will not accept that properly designed and properly voiced mixtures scream no matter what the temperament. Of course I have no knowledge of what is being built or has been built in the US except what I hear on recordings. However I do have knowledge of 19th Century English and Australian organs, and screaming mixtures there are not. Neither are there on a Dutch organ of my acquaintance. The mixtures generally blend in very nicely; in some cases adding the mixture adds power and colour to the palette without adding a great deal of "top". If "top"is needed it is usually with a second mixture. However there are some organs built here during the 1970s and early 80s that have mixtures that scream. An example is a small organ in my city here which has on the great the following pitches: 8.8.8.4.4.2.II (26.29). The mixture there screams and the reason is obvious - there is nothing between the 15th and the 26th. The effect is, to my ears, unpleasant. I don't know of any organs here which use Kellner. 99+% use equal temperament and everybody seems happy with that, including world class organists visiting for recitals. The point I am making is that if mixtures "scream" it is not the fault of the temperament, it is bad design or bad voicing. Bob Elms.   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Bob in Australia: > > IMHO I don't think I ever suggested once, going back to meantone. Church > organ work, whether a unit organ, or a substantial straight design, if = the > mixtures and mutations are hot enough to be effective, they scream in > EQUAL. They won't do that in Kellner well temper. Bach used this scheme > on harpsicords and clavicords. Kellner is the farthest away from = meantone, > and all keys are playable. Other forms of well temper are limiting in = one > way or another. > > IMHO people are afraid that they won't like the new scheme Kellner, and = fear > is the main objection, not reality. Mixtures will continue scream right = along > with Mutations in EQUAL and everyone will continue the pastime of > complaining about it. I look for solutions to objections and problems, > but some would rather complain. There is a choice, Kellner offers that = is > an improvement, and not a radical change in tuning from EQUAL that > solves the objections. > > If you will remember, large organ schemes, at the introduction of EQUAL > temperment, began dumping mixtures and most mutations out of new > organs(Around the turn of the last Century 1900) Higher wind pressures > were employed, Strings were more harmonically endowed to compensate > for the loss of upperwork, Principals and flutes too. Reeds were made > smoother with leathered shallots. Flues recieved leather on upper lips > of pipes. Sonic power became more prevalent than tonal beauty. Scales > were much enlarged, in fact the classic organ was pulled out of shape. > The sparkle was gone, Hope Jones made his appearance, with the less > is better philosophy, and organ building went in a totally different > direction. > > The failure of the organ reform movement and all it's objections, is = that > builders tried to scale and voice pipes the old way, and use EQUAL > temperment. It won't work no matter who does it or who ever has tried > it. Well temper is just as necessary for the success of these = instruments > as well as a milder form of voicing. Old wine, poured into new skins? > I definitely think this is the case. > > The mathmatical discrepancy in the tempered scale can be handled, > but for most organs out there, and their intended use suffer from EQUAL. > It all depends on what is required of an instrument. Organs used with > orchestral instruments, EQUAL is probably the only choice. Church > organs in most instances would benefit from Kellner or some other > well temper form. > > Regards, > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro - part 6 From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:47:32 +0800   Yes, but no sherry. Tea or coffee only! Bob E.   Glenda wrote: > > Do other churches have happy hours after services too? Ours is the only = one > in town. > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro part 8 & End From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:11:34 -0400     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > P.S. BTW, Rosamund Pilcher wrote a book recently about a guy organist - > cannot remember the name, but someone from church made me read it. The > story also ran in one of the women's magazines. One of Jan Karon's = books > about Mitford involved an organist. Just a couple of offerings for you who > may be hooked.   But the ultimate is "Leaven of Malice," by Robertson Davies. It was given = me as a gift and warning when I took the post of Cathedral Organist in an Ontario city. I'll say no more!   Malcolm Wechsler    
(back) Subject: Re: Allegro - part 8 From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:26:00 -0500   At 09:00 PM 8/16/01 -0400, Claire wrote: >It's over :( > >When does the next one start??     I WANNA HEAR THE ONE ABOUT THE ORGAN THAT KILLS PEOPLE!!   <whoops...sorry everyone...didn't mean to shout!> <lol>   Seriously -- thanks John, for sharing "Allegro" with us all. I much enjoyed reading your story. If you have another, please feel free to send it on!! (and if not, that's fine too -- I'm still glad you shared = "Allegro" with us!)   Cheers!   Tim Bovard      
(back) Subject: Re: Mixtures to scream or not to scream From: "Ron & Mandy" <ronwest@spiderweb.com.au> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:24:47 +1000   Hi List, Bob Elms wrote:-I will not accept that properly designed and properly = voiced mixtures scream no matter what the temperament.   With this, I entirely agree.   Also:-The mixtures generally blend in very nicely; in some cases adding the mixture adds power and colour to the palette without adding a great deal of "top". If "top"is needed it is usually with a second mixture.   This is what mixtures are for. To blend and add extra color to a combination. A Positif organ I once played had a very useful 2 rank = mixture that was rarely in tune but even so was not unpleasant and more than frequently very useful.   Also:- The point I am making is that if mixtures "scream" it is not the fault of the temperament, it is bad design or bad voicing.   Hear Hear! Onya Bob. (Onya is an Australian expression. It is a = contraction of 'Good on you' (or yer).   Ron West A <gasp> Cinema organist who did time (35 years) as an ecclesiastical organist.