PipeChat Digest #2332 - Tuesday, August 21, 2001
 
Re: 18 ranks in less than 2 hours?????
  by <TEvans1032@aol.com>
Re: 18 ranks in less than 2 hours?????
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Series of tough questions
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com>
Re: Series of Tough Questions
  by "Audrey Jacobsen" <AJ1995@home.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: 18 ranks in less than 2 hours????? From: <TEvans1032@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:02:20 EDT     --part1_88.b267bf8.28b3293c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/20/01 9:24:40 PM Central Daylight Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes:   Well it never gets that bad so many notes are fine and not in need of = being tuned.   Plus it has 56 note manual so there 18X4 off of probably what you had = thought plus a 30 note pedal board.   but as I said never gets real bad. I have to give my approval before he leaves and I'm always satisfied with it.   travis     > I find it absurdly impossible to fathom how any mortal can temper and > ACCURATELY through-tune a rank of pipes in six minutes. Must be a whiz = on > mixtures. Reed pipes, six seconds apiece. > People are always complaining about how out of tune organs are; = sometimes > we are called into a church because people complain that "every time the =   > tuner comes, it just sounds worse." > I guess the trick is to just do it as fast as possible... does one need = to > have one's eyes open? >       --part1_88.b267bf8.28b3293c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/20/01 9:24:40 PM Central Daylight Time, <BR>TubaMagna@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR>Well it never gets that bad so many notes are fine and not in need of = being <BR>tuned. <BR> <BR>Plus it has 56 note manual so there 18X4 off of probably what you had = thought <BR>plus a 30 note pedal board. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>but as I said never gets real bad. &nbsp;I have to give my approval = before he <BR>leaves and I'm always satisfied with it. <BR> <BR>travis <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I find it absurdly = impossible to fathom how any mortal can temper and <BR>ACCURATELY through-tune a rank of pipes in six minutes. &nbsp;Must be = a whiz on <BR>mixtures. &nbsp;Reed pipes, six seconds apiece. <BR>People are always complaining about how out of tune organs are; = &nbsp;&nbsp;sometimes <BR>we are called into a church because people complain that "every time = the <BR>tuner comes, it just &nbsp;sounds worse." &nbsp; <BR>I guess the trick is to just do it as fast as possible... does one = need to <BR>have one's eyes open? <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_88.b267bf8.28b3293c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: 18 ranks in less than 2 hours????? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:10:48 EDT     --part1_89.aca16f9.28b32b38_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 8/20/01 11:08:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TEvans1032@aol.com writes:     > Plus it has 56 note manual so there 18X4 off of probably what you had > thought > plus a 30 note pedal board. >   Good idea. If you want to save time tuning, just tape off the top 5 or 7 pipes in each rank!!! heeheehee   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   --part1_89.aca16f9.28b32b38_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 8/20/01 11:08:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>TEvans1032@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Plus it has 56 = note manual so there 18X4 off of probably what you had <BR>thought <BR>plus a 30 note pedal board. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Good idea. &nbsp;If you want to save time tuning, just tape off the = top 5 or 7 <BR>pipes in each rank!!! &nbsp;heeheehee <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/</FONT></HTML>   --part1_89.aca16f9.28b32b38_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Series of tough questions From: "Randy Terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:04:55 -0700 (PDT)   --0-277251370-998366695=3D:19251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii     My favorite organ piece at the moment is Dan Locklair's "Rubrics" = (complete) I have 2 favorites in the traditional repertoire: the Finale from Vierne's = Sixth Symphony, and the Durufle Suite (## ???) with the barn burner = Toccata is my favorite complete set. It isn't fair to ask for a favorite Bach piece!! The piece that has made = the greatest remaining impression on me is the E flat P & St. Anne Fugue. = I remember the great joy of hearing Biggs playing that on the Flentrop at = Harvard (Geesh, why doesn't someone reissue those recordings? Just the = ones at Harvard, pleez??!!) The hardest - I can't answer that because I have not played them all. I am = told that if you master the Orgelbuchlien you can play all of Bach, = somehow I find the thought of mastering the little organ book a = possibility, but in addition to technique, one has to posses great skill = of concentration, and since I have ADD (I just found out at age 38!) I = have always had great difficulty mastering any of the fugues - my mind = simply would not stay connected long enough to really learn them back in = college. Now if I had the time I'd go back as I think I have better = practice tools, and medication that keeps me focused (Lord, does it work. = Saturday night after working on the organ since about 1 p.m., I slipped on = the bench at 1 a.m. and didn't leave it - I swear - till someone turned = the lights on at about 7:30 a.m. If I had spent that time doing something = other than trying to copy my latest Dorothy Papadokos recording I might = have learned something! Instead, they got a Toccata on Foundation/When I've actually learned only two complete big Bach works to performance = level - the G Major, I don't know the number, the happy one, and the = Fantasy and Fugue in g minor, which I played on my junior recital. I did = the "Dorian" only for the senior recital. I am working on the D Major = (with the pedal scales at the beginning) on and off, I don't think by any = stretch of the imagination it comes close in difficulty to the dorian or = the g minor, but it is fun and audience friendly. It would take someone = with more experience than I to answer the difficulty question. I spend my = time these days learning the chorale based pieces - not just by Bach, but = all of the old masters of the chorale. I improvise most of the = contemporary chorale/hymn based pieces I play, except I love Charles = Callahan's work, and Paul Manz's, and there are several (like Dale Wood's = "Amazing Grace") that I do come back to. Getting off tipic....gotta run!     Randy Terry Minister of Music, Organist & Choirmaster The Episcopal Church of St. Peter Redwood City, California www.stpetersrwc.org     --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $0.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-277251370-998366695=3D:19251 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <P>My favorite organ piece at the moment is Dan Locklair's "Rubrics" = (complete) <P>I have 2 favorites in the traditional repertoire: the Finale from = Vierne's Sixth Symphony, and the Durufle Suite (## ???) with the barn = burner Toccata is&nbsp;my favorite complete set. <P>It isn't fair to ask for a favorite Bach piece!! The piece that has = made the greatest remaining impression on me is the E flat P &amp; St. = Anne Fugue. I remember the great joy of hearing Biggs playing that on the = Flentrop at Harvard (Geesh, why doesn't someone reissue those recordings? = Just the ones at Harvard, pleez??!!) <P>The hardest - I can't answer that because I have not played them all. I = am told that if you master the Orgelbuchlien you can play all of Bach, = somehow I find the thought of mastering the little organ book a = possibility, but in addition to technique, one has to posses great skill = of concentration, and since I have ADD (I just found out at age 38!) I = have always had great difficulty mastering any of the fugues - my mind = simply would not stay connected long enough to really learn them back in = college. Now if I had the time I'd go back as I think I have&nbsp;better practice tools, and medication that keeps me focused (Lord, = does it work. Saturday night&nbsp;after working on the organ since about 1 = p.m., I slipped on the bench at 1 a.m. and didn't leave it - I = swear&nbsp;- till someone turned the lights on at about 7:30 a.m. If I had = spent that time doing something other than trying to copy my latest = Dorothy Papadokos recording I might have learned something! Instead, they = got a Toccata& <P>I've actually learned only two complete big Bach works&nbsp;to = performance level - the G Major, I don't know the number, the happy one, = and the Fantasy and Fugue in g minor, which I played on my junior recital. = I did the&nbsp;"Dorian" only for the&nbsp;senior recital. I am working on = the D Major (with the pedal scales at the beginning) on and off, I don't = think by any stretch of the imagination it comes close in difficulty to = the dorian or the g minor, but it is fun and audience friendly. It would = take someone with more experience than I to answer the difficulty = question. I spend my time these days learning the chorale based pieces - = not just by Bach, but all of the old masters of the chorale. I improvise = most of the contemporary chorale/hymn based pieces I play, except I love = Charles Callahan's work, and Paul Manz's, and there are several (like Dale = Wood's "Amazing Grace") that I do come back to. Getting off tipic....gotta = run!&nbsp;</P><BR><BR>Randy Terry<br>Minister of Music, Org Make <a href=3D"http://phonecard.yahoo.com/">international calls</a> for = as low as $0.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-277251370-998366695=3D:19251--  
(back) Subject: Re: Series of Tough Questions From: "Audrey Jacobsen" <AJ1995@home.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:27:44 -0700   Favorite and Most Difficult Repertoire   Thanks, Glenda, for this interesting set of questions.   Glenda wrote: > (1) What is your very favorite organ piece?   My favorite organ work is the Choral Fantasy on "Wie Schon Leucht Uns Der Morgenstern" of Max Reger   > (2) What is your very favorite J.S. Bach organ piece?   My favorite Bach organ work is the Prelude in E-Flat Major, BWV 552   > (3) What do you consider to be the hardest organ piece to play?   The organ work which I find is the most difficult to play is "Esquisse in B-flat Minor" of Marcel Dupre     > (4) What do you consider the hardest Bach organ piece to play?   The most difficult Bach works are the Six Trio Sonatas. They are always a challenge.   Regards, Audrey Jacobsen