PipeChat Digest #2340 - Tuesday, August 28, 2001
 
Re: PipeChat Digest #2339 - 08/27/01
  by "Wayne Grauel" <wgvideo@attglobal.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2339 - 08/27/01
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net>
Pipedreams Archive
  by "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com>
Re: Resultants: both flues and reeds considered
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2339 - 08/27/01 From: "Wayne Grauel" <wgvideo@attglobal.net> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:23:59 -0400     --------------AC959A983DAEEB1EDD20CD6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Subject: Re: Advice and Info on CD Burners/Writing to compact disks   Please share all advice and info on CD burners/writing to compact disks. = I'm very interested and suspect there are others. My particular interest is = in learning how to record on a DAT and transfer it to a CD.     Read the manual, typically a goot DAT will have a digital I/O and so will = the burner or your computer.   If all you want to do is record music look at a stand alone CDR recorder = like the Marantz CDR 631   As to making yourself a CD, Let's understand the gray areas and Yes, I = would like to hear Michael's opinion too on this one. But the reality is, that the = Copyright laws are a feeding frenzy for the legal profession. Who really cares if you = record pipe dreams and listen to it yourself. I say this because to the best of my = knowledge, they do not offer CD's of the programs for sale. I would love to buy CD's = of pipe dreams because we can't get the program here. And when we did, it was = aired at some ridiculous time like 8a.m. on a Sunday morning.... talk about STUPIDITY! = Most of us were playing and not able to listen to it in the first place.   Understand that I'm not suggesting that you record pipe dreams and then = offer the CD's on the internet...., or even sell them to your friends, that would = be really asking for trouble and just plain stupidity!   I think we all have to use some common sense here. I would think that = the people that work so hard to keep the organ alive recording and airing these = programs would personally want you to record their show so you can at least treasure = listening to it again and all of the hard work of their labors are not lost in space after = the airing of the program like some of those improvisations that we sometimes do.... = never to be heard again!   My first impression to your post is someone who wants to copy and = distribute CD's to all of your friends like jokes on the internet. This is totally wrong = from a moral and legal point of view and just being cheap! If your intention is to do = that, then I hope you get caught and do some time in prison!   I think this is the big difference in the dilemma that has created over = copyright issues. It's like running down to copy a piece of choral music because = some of your choir members have lost some of them and someone forgets their music... = you paid for them... it's not like you did not purchase the "license". if you = bought 50 copies, then you have licenses for 50 copies.   It is also (from the information that I have gathered... I'm not a lawyer) = that if you own a CD, you can make your own copy, or a tape for the car, but when = you distribute that CD to someone who has not bought the cd, and therefore = does not own a license to that product, you have crossed the line!   My 2 cents! Wayne   --------------AC959A983DAEEB1EDD20CD6B Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <i>Subject: Re: Advice and Info on CD Burners/Writing to compact = disks</i><i></i> <p><i>Please share all advice and info on CD burners/writing to compact disks.&nbsp; I'm</i> <br><i>very interested and suspect there are others.&nbsp; My particular interest is in</i> <br><i>learning how to record on a DAT and transfer it to a CD.</i> <br><i></i>&nbsp; <p>Read the manual, typically a goot DAT will have a digital I/O and so will the burner or your computer. <p>If all you want to do is record music look at a stand alone CDR = recorder like the Marantz CDR 631 <p>As to making yourself a CD, Let's understand the gray areas and Yes, I would like to hear Michael's opinion too on this one.&nbsp; But the = reality is, that the Copyright laws are a feeding frenzy for the legal = profession.&nbsp; Who really cares if you record pipe dreams and listen to it = yourself.&nbsp; I say this because to the best of my knowledge, they do not offer CD's of the programs for sale.&nbsp; I would love to buy CD's of pipe dreams because we can't get the program here.&nbsp; And when we did, it was aired at some ridiculous time like 8a.m. on a Sunday morning.... talk about = STUPIDITY!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Most of us were playing and not able to listen to it in the first place. <p>Understand that I'm not suggesting that you record pipe dreams and then offer the CD's on the internet...., or even sell them to your = friends,&nbsp; that would be really asking for trouble and just plain stupidity! <p>I think we all have to use some common sense here.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would think that the people that work so hard to keep the organ alive recording and airing these programs would personally want you to record their show so you can at least treasure listening to it again and all of the hard work of their labors are not lost in space after the airing of the program like some of those improvisations that we sometimes do....&nbsp; never to be heard again! <p>My first impression to your post is someone who wants to copy and = distribute CD's to all of your friends like jokes on the internet.&nbsp; This is = totally wrong from a moral and legal point of view and just being cheap!&nbsp; If your intention is to do that,&nbsp; then I hope you get caught and do some time in prison! <p>I think this is the big difference in the dilemma that has created over copyright issues.&nbsp; It's like running down to copy a piece of choral music because some of your choir members have lost some of them and = someone forgets their music...&nbsp;&nbsp; you paid for them... it's not like you did not purchase the "license".&nbsp; if you bought 50 copies, then you have licenses for 50 copies. <p>It is also (from the information that I have gathered... I'm not a = lawyer) that if you own a CD, you can make your own copy, or a tape for the car, but when you distribute that CD to someone who has not bought the cd, and therefore does not own a license to that product, you have crossed the line! <p>My 2 cents! <br>Wayne</html>   --------------AC959A983DAEEB1EDD20CD6B--    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2339 - 08/27/01 From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:10:53 -0400     --------------A6AEA6A4C7718DCB39F555F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       Wayne Grauel wrote:   > Subject: Re: Advice and Info on CD Burners/Writing to compact disks > > If all you want to do is record music look at a stand alone CDR > recorder like the Marantz CDR 631   Good advice.   > > > As to making yourself a CD, Let's understand the gray areas and Yes, I > would like to hear Michael's opinion too on this one. But the reality > is, that the Copyright laws are a feeding frenzy for the legal > profession. Who really cares if you record pipe dreams and listen to > it yourself. I say this because to the best of my knowledge, they do > not offer CD's of the programs for sale. I would love to buy CD's of > pipe dreams because we can't get the program here. And when we did, > it was aired at some ridiculous time like 8a.m. on a Sunday > morning.... talk about STUPIDITY! Most of us were playing and not > able to listen to it in the first place.   As the law stands now, you can make a recording for personal use only. I believe the greedy folks at the RIAA want to change this law. The greedy folks at the RIAA want to charge you for simply LISTENING to the music, never mind, recording it for personal use. As I said, they're greedy.   I'm a licentiate photographer. Frankly, I would never dream of charging anyone for simply LOOKING at my photographs.   --------------A6AEA6A4C7718DCB39F555F8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> &nbsp; <p>Wayne Grauel wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><i>Subject: Re: Advice and Info on CD = Burners/Writing to compact disks</i> <p>If all you want to do is record music look at a stand alone CDR = recorder like the Marantz CDR 631</blockquote> Good advice. <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>&nbsp; <p>As to making yourself a CD, Let's understand the gray areas and Yes, I would like to hear Michael's opinion too on this one.&nbsp; But the = reality is, that the Copyright laws are a feeding frenzy for the legal = profession.&nbsp; Who really cares if you record pipe dreams and listen to it = yourself.&nbsp; I say this because to the best of my knowledge, they do not offer CD's of the programs for sale.&nbsp; I would love to buy CD's of pipe dreams because we can't get the program here.&nbsp; And when we did, it was aired at some ridiculous time like 8a.m. on a Sunday morning.... talk about = STUPIDITY!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Most of us were playing and not able to listen to it in the first = place.</blockquote> As the law stands now, you can make a recording for personal use = only.&nbsp; I believe the greedy folks at the RIAA want to change this law.&nbsp; The greedy folks at the RIAA want to charge you for simply LISTENING to the music, never mind, recording it for personal use.&nbsp;&nbsp; As I said, they're greedy. <p>I'm a licentiate photographer.&nbsp; Frankly, I would never dream of charging anyone for simply LOOKING at my photographs.</html>   --------------A6AEA6A4C7718DCB39F555F8--    
(back) Subject: Pipedreams Archive From: "Jonathan Roussos" <jroussos@san.rr.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:10:04 -0700   Wayne Grauel said -----Original Message-----   I would love to buy CD's of pipe dreams because we can't get the program here. And when we did, it was aired at some ridiculous time like 8a.m. on = a Sunday morning.... talk about STUPIDITY! Most of us were playing and = not able to listen to it in the first place.   [Jonathan Roussos] Check out the Pipedreams web site http://www.pipedreams.org/ They have an archive of their shows. I wish I knew how to capture the streaming audio so I could listen to it in the car. The sound quality = isn't great but its better than missing the show. Jon    
(back) Subject: Re: Resultants: both flues and reeds considered From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 27 Aug 2001 12:04:57 -0700   > Jeff White wrote: > > > My question is why does a resultant work with flue pipes and not = reeds?   Several writers have responded to this question with by explaining that = the problem with reeds is that they produce too many harmonics, adding too = much grit to the sound. This seems altogether reasonable, but I would = guess that the other side of the coin is important, too. Since the = resultant effect depends on the interaction of the two fundamentals, you'd = want to use pipes that concentrate their energy on those pitches.   Dick Meckstroth