PipeChat Digest #2527 - Saturday, December 1, 2001
 
Re: PipeChat Digest #2526 - 12/01/01
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Wedding Music for Mandy
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Why fake Mixtures fail
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Re: Wedding Music for Mandy
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Catharine Crozier Video, Severance CD, Book of Days
  by "William T. Van Pelt III" <wvanpelt@erols.com>
Wedding music for Mandy
  by "Richard Dostie" <rmdostie@hotmail.com>
Wedding music continued
  by "Richard Dostie" <rmdostie@hotmail.com>
Problems with @Home
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Re: Wedding music for Mandy
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Wedding music for Mandy
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: Wedding Music for Mandy
  by "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2526 - 12/01/01 From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:44:44 EST     --part1_16e.4dcfde5.293a54ec_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Find another music teacher???   Stan Krider   In a message dated 12/01/2001 4:59:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, pipechat@pipechat.org writes:     > Subject: (No Subject) > From: "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com> > Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 00:32:11 -0600 > > Hi pipers > > I'm looking for a solid, reliable book of wedding music, SPECIFICALLY, = one > that contains organ music in its ORIGINAL form, as my teacher refuses to =   > let me play reductions. > > Anyone care to share? > > Many thanks in advance. > > Mandy >     --part1_16e.4dcfde5.293a54ec_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3>Find another music = teacher???<BR> <BR> Stan Krider<BR> <BR> In a message dated 12/01/2001 4:59:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, = pipechat@pipechat.org writes:<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subject: (No = Subject)<BR> From: "Mandy Glass" &lt;amadpoet@lycos.com&gt;<BR> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 00:32:11 -0600<BR> <BR> Hi pipers<BR> <BR> I'm looking for a solid, reliable book of wedding music, SPECIFICALLY, one = that contains organ music in its ORIGINAL form, as my teacher refuses to = let me play reductions. <BR> <BR> Anyone care to share?<BR> <BR> Many thanks in advance.<BR> <BR> Mandy<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_16e.4dcfde5.293a54ec_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Wedding Music for Mandy From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:51:47 EST     --part1_16e.4de8f79.293a8ed3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   The absolute best Wedding Music book I've seen in ages is "The Oxford Book = of Wedding Music" - Thirty Pieces for Organ, published by, well... Oxford! The contents: Air (Suite 3) Bach Sanctify us by thy Goodness (cantata 22) Bach Jesu, Joy of Man's desiring (147) Bach Sheep may safely graze (208) bach Priere a Notre-Dame (Suite Gothique) Boellmann Ave Maria bach/gounod Aria (Concerto Grosso 12) Handel Minuet (Berenice) Handel Greensleeves Vaughan Williams Prelude on Brother James's Air Searle Wright Hornpipe (Water Music) Handel Prince of Denmark's March Clarke Trumpet Tune Purcell Prelude (TeDeum) Charpentier Trumpet Voluntary Stanley LaMarche Handel Bridal March (Lohengrin) Wagner Nun Danket Alle Gott (Cantata 79) Bach Fanfare Mathias March Lefebure-Wely Wedding March (Midsummer Night's Dream) Mendelssohn Arrival of the Queen of Sheba (Solomon) Handel Grand March (Aida) Verdi Crown Imperial Walton Overture: Die Meistersinger Wagner Trumpet Tune Carther March Purcell Toccata (Symphonie 5) Widor Ouverture (Fireworks) Handel   The pieces are well layed out with, for the most part, convenient page = turns. I recommend it highly.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_16e.4de8f79.293a8ed3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>The absolute best = Wedding Music book I've seen in ages is "The Oxford Book of Wedding Music" = - Thirty Pieces for Organ, published by, well... Oxford! &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>The contents: <BR>Air (Suite 3) &nbsp;Bach <BR>Sanctify us by thy Goodness (cantata 22) &nbsp;Bach <BR>Jesu, Joy of Man's desiring &nbsp;(147) &nbsp;Bach <BR>Sheep may safely graze (208) &nbsp;bach <BR>Priere a Notre-Dame &nbsp;(Suite Gothique) Boellmann <BR>Ave Maria &nbsp;bach/gounod <BR>Aria &nbsp;(Concerto Grosso 12) Handel <BR>Minuet (Berenice) &nbsp;Handel <BR>Greensleeves &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Vaughan Williams <BR>Prelude on Brother James's Air &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Searle Wright <BR>Hornpipe (Water Music) &nbsp;Handel <BR>Prince of Denmark's March &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Clarke <BR>Trumpet Tune &nbsp;&nbsp;Purcell <BR>Prelude (TeDeum) &nbsp;Charpentier <BR>Trumpet Voluntary &nbsp;&nbsp;Stanley <BR>LaMarche &nbsp;Handel <BR>Bridal March (Lohengrin) &nbsp;Wagner <BR>Nun Danket Alle Gott &nbsp;(Cantata 79) &nbsp;Bach <BR>Fanfare Mathias <BR>March &nbsp;Lefebure-Wely <BR>Wedding March (Midsummer Night's Dream) &nbsp;Mendelssohn <BR>Arrival of the Queen of Sheba &nbsp;&nbsp;(Solomon) &nbsp;&nbsp;Handel <BR>Grand March &nbsp;(Aida) &nbsp;Verdi <BR>Crown Imperial &nbsp;&nbsp;Walton <BR>Overture: &nbsp;Die Meistersinger &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wagner <BR>Trumpet Tune &nbsp;&nbsp;Carther <BR>March &nbsp;Purcell <BR>Toccata &nbsp;(Symphonie 5) &nbsp;Widor <BR>Ouverture (Fireworks) &nbsp;Handel <BR> <BR>The pieces are well layed out with, for the most part, convenient page = turns. &nbsp;I recommend it highly. <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_16e.4de8f79.293a8ed3_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Why fake Mixtures fail From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:54:05 EST   Ladies and Gentlemen:   Mixtures are designed to lend brightness and clarity to the bass, and = dignity and power to the treble. Their harmonic composition, usually of fifths = and octaves in normal chorus mixtures, is dependent upon the size and acoustic = of the room, as well as the tonal scope of the instrument. Many organs built =   according to strict Orgelbewegung Werkprinzip formulae completely ignore = the room, clinging so tightly to a false recipe, that the mixtures never, ever =   have a chance of cohering with the main body of the flue chorus.   Each of the PITCHES in a mixture, while changing position within the = harmonic "stack," still runs for several octaves, and is therefore scaled, voiced, = and finished as a separate stop. What each of these various harmonics do as = it progresses through the compass dictates how the voicer and tonal finisher will determine its ictus, transient attack characteristics, steady state tone, amplitude, and harmonic content, all factors of scale, mouth width, cutup, languid thickness, languid bevel, languid height relative to the = flue, depth and style of nicking, and the wind pressure upon which this is all supposed to take place.   For this reason, a repeating mixture of 24 or 36 pipes can only really be charming in running, non-contrapuntal passages when a skilled organist = knows what he or she is doing and dealing with. Certainly, the minute one = starts playing in more than one octave, there is no effect, as all of the pipes = are already in use. The second big problem, of course, is that this mass of = tone is doing the SAME THING in each and every octave of the compass, having no =   musical line within the context of the organ's tonal structure. Edgar = Gress was known for his repeating, I-rank "Kunstzimbel."   Wiring mixtures at different pitches (deciding to unify one mixture as = both a Fourniture and a Cymbale), results in unbalanced, topheavy harshness. = Wiring a two-rank mixture to play at two pitches simultaneously to fake a four-ranker is no better. YES, of COURSE it's "passable." Compton in England used to create mixtures by taking the quints off of narrow = geigens, staggering the soundboards such that the out-of-tune fifths pulled from tempered ranks would "draw" to the larger-scaled unisons. But he was a MASTER at it.   In the long run, it really doesn't cost much more to build a balanced four-rank mixture than a harmonically lopsided three-ranker. And why pay your "builder" to spend all the time wiring up three fake mixtures out of = a few dozen pipes, when you might just want to spring for the real thing and =   have the instrument regarded with some degree of seriousness?   Mixtures are very complex affairs; having designed, voiced, and finished them for 15 years, and studied them for ten years prior to trying my hand = at them, I am still discovering new things, both historically and = practically. One will find certain mixture trends among the better builders, such as a dearth of three-rank mixtures, which tend to be harmonically unbalanced = and unwieldy to sing with, and the lack of super-high-pitched mixtures which = have no bearing in history, except in the last fifty years. Literature written =   for such organs and spikey mixtures is only recently being appreciated, as =   any contemporary school must go through a generation or so before it re-emerges in the repertoire. One must still question the practicality of =   building and maintaining the tune of such tiny pipes.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City Getting ready to voice a V-VII Mixture on 6-1/2" wind next month  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Music for Mandy From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:27:52 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_06FF_01C17A7C.BE4C2840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   In addition to which there is a much less ambitious book published by =3D Novello called A Wedding Bouquet (no relation to Hyacinthe) with the =3D following interesting material:   Purcell - Four Pieces from Abdelazer, or The Moor's Revenge: Rondeau Minuet Air Hornpipe   Percy Fletcher - Festival Toccata   E. J. Moeran - Air (from the Serenade for Orchestra)   G. F. Handel - Passpied (from the Aylesford Pieces) Jig (from the 14th Harpsichord Suite)   William H. Harris - Processional March   Edvard Grieg - Two Pieces (from the Holberg Suite) Sarabande Gavotte   Of course, in terms of Mandy's brief, imposed by her teacher, that she =3D play no "reductions" or transcriptions, neither Bruce's suggestion nor =3D this one of my own do very well. Most of the music in both books fails =3D that rather strange requirement. The whole topic - to transcribe or not = =3D to transcribe - has been beaten to death for years, and there will =3D probably always be those who do and those who don't, and those who do =3D just a little. That is, of course, concerning organ recitals. I would =3D have thought that for a wedding, a bit more relaxed attitude is in =3D order. Have we thought all these years that the Jeremiah Clarke and =3D Purcell trumpetings most of us play were organ music?   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler =3D20 ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Cremona502@cs.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 2:51 PM Subject: Wedding Music for Mandy     The absolute best Wedding Music book I've seen in ages is "The Oxford = =3D Book of Wedding Music" - Thirty Pieces for Organ, published by, well... = =3D Oxford! =3D20 The contents: <enormous snip>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_06FF_01C17A7C.BE4C2840 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#c8e0d8> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In addition to which there is a much = =3D less ambitious=3D20 book published by Novello called A Wedding Bouquet (no relation to =3D Hyacinthe)=3D20 with the following interesting material:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Purcell - Four Pieces from Abdelazer, = =3D or The Moor's=3D20 Revenge:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Rondeau</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Minuet</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Air</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D Hornpipe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Percy Fletcher - Festival =3D Toccata</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>E. J. Moeran - Air (from the Serenade = =3D for=3D20 Orchestra)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>G. F. Handel - Passpied (from the =3D Aylesford=3D20 Pieces)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 Jig (from the 14th Harpsichord Suite)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>William H. Harris - Processional =3D March</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Edvard Grieg - Two Pieces (from the = =3D Holberg=3D20 Suite)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D Sarabande</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = Gavotte</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Of course, in terms of Mandy's brief, = =3D imposed by=3D20 her teacher, that she play no "reductions" or transcriptions, neither =3D Bruce's=3D20 suggestion nor this one of my own do very well. Most of the music in =3D both books=3D20 fails that rather&nbsp;strange requirement. The whole topic -&nbsp;to =3D transcribe=3D20 or not to transcribe - has been beaten to death for years, and there =3D will=3D20 probably always be those&nbsp;who do and those who don't, and those who = =3D do just=3D20 a little. That is, of course, concerning organ recitals.&nbsp;I would =3D have=3D20 thought that&nbsp;for a wedding, a bit more relaxed attitude is in =3D order. Have=3D20 we thought all these years that the Jeremiah Clarke and Purcell =3D trumpetings most=3D20 of us play were organ music?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Malcolm =3D Wechsler&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DCremona502@cs.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 01, = =3D 2001 2:51=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Wedding Music for =3D Mandy</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>The absolute best = =3D Wedding Music=3D20 book I've seen in ages is "The Oxford Book of Wedding Music" - Thirty = =3D Pieces=3D20 for Organ, published by, well... Oxford! &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>The =3D contents:&nbsp;=3D20 &lt;enormous snip&gt;</FONT></FONT><FONT = face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT=3D20 size=3D3D2></DIV></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_06FF_01C17A7C.BE4C2840--      
(back) Subject: Catharine Crozier Video, Severance CD, Book of Days From: "William T. Van Pelt III" <wvanpelt@erols.com> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 16:59:35 -0500   The AGO has produced a videotape of Catharine Crozier playing and teaching. It is available from OHS at http://www.ohscatalog.org. Beware that the sound quality is mediocre at best, especially of Dr. Crozier's fine performance on the beautiful Rosales organ at Trinity Cathedral, Portland, Oregon. Even though the sound is on a VHS-HiFi track, it is compressed to total absence of any dynamic range, at all and, inexplicably, there is almost no acoustic captured on the tape. One can overlook this problem if the primary interest is in watching this master teach in her 84th year. It is worthy, enlightened, well delivered instruction that is no less than one would expect, and it is tailored to the students. They range from a very talented 8th-grader to mature organists. That portion of the video, recorded at Illinois College, fares a little better in the sound department.   Also, OHS has the "Organists Book of Days" available.   The price on the Severance Hall CD recorded by Todd Wilson is $13.98.   http://www.ohscatalog.org   Bill  
(back) Subject: Wedding music for Mandy From: "Richard Dostie" <rmdostie@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 22:10:51 +0000   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV> <P>I agree with those who have cited the Oxford collection as an excellent = currently-available choice.&nbsp; There is also a much older set 2-volume = set from Concordia, edited by a committee in which Walter E. Buzsin seems = to have been prominent.&nbsp; Volume I contains a number of free = compositions,&nbsp;a good mix of original works for the organ and some = transcriptions.&nbsp;&nbsp;The composers represented include Bach, = Buxtehude, Handel, "Purcell" (read Clarke), Marcello, Stanley, Wesley (the = Choral Song), Rheinberger (the Bach-like Cantilena from the&nbsp;D minor = Sonata) and two movements from Boellmann's Suite Gothique, neither of = which, miraculously, is the Pri=E8re.&nbsp; The second = volume&nbsp;contains&nbsp;chorale-based works;&nbsp; three Orgelb=FCchlein = pieces, several of the easier Karg-Elert works including&nbsp;"Nun = danket," works by Walther, Pachelbel and Buxtehude,&nbsp;along = with&nbsp;short preludes by Robin Milford and John Blackburn as&nbsp;well = as Buzsin himself.&nbsp; T <P>Rick Dostie, St. Thomas' Church, Camden, ME USA<BR></P></DIV></div><br = clear=3Dall><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a = href=3D'http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a>= <br></html>  
(back) Subject: Wedding music continued From: "Richard Dostie" <rmdostie@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 22:19:25 +0000   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV>Remainder of original message, = deleted for some obscure Microsoft reason by the next-to-useless = Hotmail:</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>This set is called "Wedding Music - Parts I and II," Concordia = numbers 97-1369 and 97-1370.&nbsp; The original copyright date is = 1952.&nbsp; When I first started working in small churches long ago, these = volumes constituted a fairly significant part of my service voluntary = repertoire, and they would still be highly useful for anyone in that = position if they can still be gotten.&nbsp; I see that I paid $3.25 for = Volume I and $3.00 for Volume II.&nbsp; Those were the days.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Rick Dostie, St. Thomas' Church, Camden, ME USA</DIV></div><br = clear=3Dall><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a = href=3D'http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a>= <br></html>  
(back) Subject: Problems with @Home From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 20:04:03 -0600   Folks   As i am sure most people are aware there is the possibility of @home going into bankruptcy and that the High-Speed services might be shut down. Already I think the service in the San Francisco CA area has disappeared and i gather there might be other areas of the country where this is going to happen.   I don't normally remove an address from the list on the first bounce of mail to that address but in this case I will remove any addresses that bounce from the @home domain. If your address does remain with @home and i have removed you please write the Administration account and I will reinstate your address. I just don't want to have to deal with numerous Bounced Mail Digests during this period of transition or whatever is going to happen with people who have their access via the @home domain.   I'm sorry to have to bother all the list members with this posting but this is the only way that those that might be affected will get this notification. Good luck to those of your who are affected.   Now back to Happy PipeChatting   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding music for Mandy From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 21:26:34 EST     --part1_d2.10021cb9.293aeb5a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/1/01 5:11:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, rmdostie@hotmail.com writes:     > I agree with those who have cited the Oxford collection as an excellent > currently-available choice. There is also a much older set 2-volume set =   > from Concordia, edited by a committee in which Walter E. Buzsin seems to =   > have been prominent.   I think this is still available. I see it pop up in stores with various = new and lovely covers. Part I is one of those volumes that I would want to = have with me if stranded on an island with and organ. It has been a wonderful introduction to much quality literature. It's an excellent volume.   Part II never excited me, and I was told by the organist at the church = when I got Part I, that Part II was just tossed together because they made the mistake of printing "Part I" on the other book! ;-) There is ONE = piece, a Karg-Elerg trio in it which is worth the price of the book, but there was little else in it that I would use for a wedding, except Nun danket, me being, of course, of the the non-CP persuasion!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_d2.10021cb9.293aeb5a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 12/1/01 5:11:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, rmdostie@hotmail.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I agree with those = who have cited the Oxford collection as an excellent currently-available = choice. &nbsp;There is also a much older set 2-volume set from Concordia, = edited by a committee in which Walter E. Buzsin seems to have been = prominent. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I think this is still available. &nbsp;I see it pop up in stores with = various new and lovely covers. &nbsp;Part I is one of those volumes that I = would want to have with me if stranded on an island with and organ. = &nbsp;It has been a wonderful introduction to much quality literature. = &nbsp;It's an excellent volume. <BR> <BR>Part II never excited me, and I was told by the organist at the church = when I got Part I, that Part II was just tossed together because they made = the mistake of printing "Part I" on the other book! &nbsp;;-) = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There is ONE piece, a Karg-Elerg trio in it which is = worth the price of the book, but there was little else in it that I would = use for a wedding, except Nun danket, me being, of course, of the the = non-CP persuasion!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d2.10021cb9.293aeb5a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding music for Mandy From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 21:37:26 EST   The old CPH Wedding Music I is a great compendium -- and a sub organist's good friend. Unfortunately, the tasteful cover of the original was = replaced with a sort of hippie-flowers desecration at some point. I wonder why they =   only included the introduction and minuet from the Suite Gothique? Maybe = the toccata would be too difficult and the Priere might arouse unsavory = thoughts in the minds of young Lutherans, of which I was one at the time when CPH = was in its heyday as a music publisher under Ed Klammer (aka Paul Thomas). I still have my original copy with pencilled fingerings and pedal markings = from the summer of '61.   That volume takes its place alongside EPB's Treasury of Early Organ Music = and Dr. Asper's The Organ in Church and 80 Chorale Preludes in my library.   What I don't understand is why poor-quality offset reprints of some of = these collections sell for many times the price of the original issues. How = ever do students today manage to build a library with the exorbitant prices = being charged for organ music?   DudelK Washington, DC  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Music for Mandy From: "Mandy Glass" <amadpoet@lycos.com> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 22:47:21 -0600   Malcolm writes:   >Of course, in terms of Mandy's brief, imposed by her teacher, that she = =3D >play no "reductions" or transcriptions, neither Bruce's suggestion nor = =3D >this one of my own do very well. Most of the music in both books fails = =3D >that rather strange requirement.   (snip)   I suppose I should have been more clear about the reason for my teacher's = stipulation. While I'm getting used to the organ and learning the rep he = only lets me use trusted editions (often unedited) so that I can see the = original intentions and style of the composer.   Thanks to everyone who has responded, and if anyone else has suggestions, = please keep em coming!   Best, Mandy