PipeChat Digest #2533 - Monday, December 3, 2001
 
Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday?
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday?
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday?
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday?
  by "Richard Dostie" <rmdostie@hotmail.com>
Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: I need advice for title of work(x-posted)
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday?
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday?
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday? From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:40:09 -0500   It used to happen at Trinity Presbyterian when I played there, the choir would sit in the loft until I had completed the postlude, congregation would stand in the center aisle and look up at my back. At First Methodist in Clearwater where I now play, the organ console is in the front of the church, members of te congregation actually walk up to the chancel and stand behind me and watch. Applause usually follows.   BridgewaterUMC Director of Music wrote: > > > > >Has this phemomenon happened to any one on this list? > > > >Stan Krider > > Stan: > > Im happy to say that it has. Not every Sunday of course, but often = enough. > Having studied with Dr HAller in the 80's I can well understand why they > stay. Not only is he an exceptional organist but an all around decent > fellow as well. > > Craig > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at = http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- Tom Hoehn, Organist http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn Royalty Theatre, Clearwater, FL Tampa Theatre, Tampa, FL First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS    
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 21:48:20 EST     --part1_4e.2c4556a.293d9374_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/3/01 7:20:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, = rkinner@one.net writes:     > Our church eliminated the postlude some years ago. So few stayed to > listen that it wasn't worth the organist's time to prepare one. >   I think this is a really sad solution. One of the most exciting things I =   remember from my childhood was LEAVING church with the organ pealing in = the background. It drew me back in again and contributed to me intense love = for the pipe organ, and even more importantly, to my love of worship. = Leaving church and hearing the organ in the background somehow lets me take more = of worship with me when I leave the building.   I think it's very sad when organists make such a big deal out of something = so trivial. Just how much trouble is it (really) to play and nice, rousing piece at the conclusion of worship. It doesn't have to be a different = one each week. It can be a piece that you are learning or it can be a piece that you know so well that you play it from memory. I can't even begin = to count the times that I've just played one of the trumpet tunes on a = whim.... and the congregation always loves it. If you don't do anything else, = just play a hymn. I saw a movie today which had several scenes with people leaving church. Each time the organ was pealing forth with a hymn, = familiar and nice and majestically full tilt.   These childish mini-fits are doing our profession great harm. We're = already branded as being temperamental. Why must it be proven further.... again = and again?   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_4e.2c4556a.293d9374_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 12/3/01 7:20:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, rkinner@one.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Our church = eliminated the postlude some years ago. &nbsp;So few stayed to <BR>listen that it wasn't worth the organist's time to prepare one. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I think this is a really sad solution. &nbsp;&nbsp;One of the most = exciting things I remember from my childhood was LEAVING church with the = organ pealing in the background. &nbsp;It drew me back in again and = contributed to me intense love for the pipe organ, and even more = importantly, to my love of worship. &nbsp;&nbsp;Leaving church and hearing = the organ in the background somehow lets me take more of worship with me = when I leave the building. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>I think it's very sad when organists make such a big deal out of = something so trivial. &nbsp;Just how much trouble is it (really) to play = and nice, rousing piece at the conclusion of worship. &nbsp;&nbsp;It = doesn't have to be a different one each week. &nbsp;&nbsp;It can be a = piece that you are learning or it can be a piece that you know so well = that you play it from memory. &nbsp;&nbsp;I can't even begin to count the = times that I've just played one of the trumpet tunes on a whim.... and the = congregation always loves it. &nbsp;&nbsp;If you don't do anything else, = just play a hymn. &nbsp;I saw a movie today which had several scenes with = people leaving church. &nbsp;Each time the organ was pealing forth with a = hymn, familiar and nice and majestically full tilt. <BR> <BR>These childish mini-fits are doing our profession great harm. = &nbsp;&nbsp;We're already branded as being temperamental. &nbsp;Why must = it be proven further.... again and again? <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_4e.2c4556a.293d9374_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday? From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:07:18 -0800     --------------BAF7B49EBFC83082224A8C44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I've given up on closing voluntaries ... a cheerful sixteen measures on the Recessional Hymn, and I'm done. Perhaps when I'm in a west gallery with some distance between me and the chatters, I'll resume ... but not as long as they stand right next to me and shout over the organ.   Bud   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 12/3/01 7:20:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, > rkinner@one.net writes: > > > >> Our church eliminated the postlude some years ago. So few stayed to >> >> listen that it wasn't worth the organist's time to prepare one. > > I think this is a really sad solution. One of the most exciting > things I remember from my childhood was LEAVING church with the organ > pealing in the background. It drew me back in again and contributed > to me intense love for the pipe organ, and even more importantly, to > my love of worship. Leaving church and hearing the organ in the > background somehow lets me take more of worship with me when I leave > the building. > > I think it's very sad when organists make such a big deal out of > something so trivial. Just how much trouble is it (really) to play > and nice, rousing piece at the conclusion of worship. It doesn't > have to be a different one each week. It can be a piece that you are > learning or it can be a piece that you know so well that you play it > from memory. I can't even begin to count the times that I've just > played one of the trumpet tunes on a whim.... and the congregation > always loves it. If you don't do anything else, just play a hymn. I > saw a movie today which had several scenes with people leaving > church. Each time the organ was pealing forth with a hymn, familiar > and nice and majestically full tilt. > > These childish mini-fits are doing our profession great harm. We're > already branded as being temperamental. Why must it be proven > further.... again and again? > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi > Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ > and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --------------BAF7B49EBFC83082224A8C44 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I've given up on closing voluntaries ... a cheerful sixteen measures on the Recessional Hymn, and I'm done. Perhaps when I'm in a west gallery with some distance between me and the chatters, I'll resume ... but not as long as they stand right next to me and shout over the organ. <p>Bud <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 12/3/01 7:20:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, rkinner@one.net = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Our church eliminated the postlude some years ago.&nbsp; So few stayed = to</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>listen that it wasn't = worth the organist's time to prepare one.</font></font></blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>I think = this is a really sad solution.&nbsp;&nbsp; One of the most exciting things I remember from my childhood was LEAVING church with the organ pealing in the background.&nbsp; It drew me back in again and contributed to me = intense love for the pipe organ, and even more importantly, to my love of = worship.&nbsp;&nbsp; Leaving church and hearing the organ in the background somehow lets me take more of worship with me when I leave the = building.</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>I think = it's very sad when organists make such a big deal out of something so trivial.&nbsp; Just how much trouble is it (really) to play and nice, rousing piece at the conclusion of worship.&nbsp;&nbsp; It doesn't have to be a different one each week.&nbsp;&nbsp; It can be a piece that you are learning or it can be a piece that you know so well that you play it from = memory.&nbsp;&nbsp; I can't even begin to count the times that I've just played one of the trumpet tunes on a whim.... and the congregation always loves = it.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you don't do anything else, just play a hymn.&nbsp; I saw a movie today which had several scenes with people leaving church.&nbsp; Each time the organ was pealing forth with a hymn, familiar and nice and majestically full tilt.</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>These = childish mini-fits are doing our profession great harm.&nbsp;&nbsp; We're already branded as being temperamental.&nbsp; Why must it be proven further.... again and again?</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Bruce = Cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Please = visit Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>&nbsp; = and wander through the Mall Without Walls</font></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------BAF7B49EBFC83082224A8C44--    
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 21:10:41 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0007_01C17C3E.F6CE0D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   People at my church began a few months ago sitting down after the =3D dismissal and listening to the postlude. It has taken some getting used = =3D to having an appreciative audience.   Cheers,   Glenda Sutton   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0007_01C17C3E.F6CE0D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>People at my church began a few = months =3D ago sitting=3D20 down after the dismissal and listening to the postlude.&nbsp; It has =3D taken some=3D20 getting used to having an appreciative audience.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Glenda =3D Sutton</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0007_01C17C3E.F6CE0D00--    
(back) Subject: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday? From: "Richard Dostie" <rmdostie@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 03:16:38 +0000   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV>About half of our congregation = stays, and renders applause afterwards.&nbsp; Someday I'm going to stand = up and thank them for the clap.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Rick Dostie, St. Thomas' Church, Camden, ME USA</DIV></div><br = clear=3Dall><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a = href=3D'http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a>= <br></html>  
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 22:29:52 EST     --part1_6f.1ebc8306.293d9d30_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/3/01 10:17:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, rmdostie@hotmail.com writes:     > About half of our congregation stays, and renders applause afterwards. > Someday I'm going to stand up and thank them for the clap. >   Two suggestions, Rick!   1) Place a nice big snifter on top of the console. 2) Rephrase your words of appreciation!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_6f.1ebc8306.293d9d30_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 12/3/01 10:17:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, rmdostie@hotmail.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">About half of our = congregation stays, and renders applause afterwards. &nbsp;Someday I'm = going to stand up and thank them for the clap. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Two suggestions, Rick! <BR> <BR>1) &nbsp;Place a nice big snifter on top of the console. <BR>2) &nbsp;Rephrase your words of appreciation!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6f.1ebc8306.293d9d30_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: I need advice for title of work(x-posted) From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 23:09:03 EST     --part1_ab.134d8d6f.293da65f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   How about "Fantasia"?   Neil B   --part1_ab.134d8d6f.293da65f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>How about "Fantasia"? <BR> <BR>Neil B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ab.134d8d6f.293da65f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday? From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 23:13:36 EST     --part1_151.51be7d7.293da770_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       > I notice that more people are staying to listen to the postlude, = regardless > of what is played.   Isn't exactly happening here, BUT, everyone lines up in the center aisle = to shake the pastor's hand. So, if the line is somewhat slow, they hear my postlude. If not, then God gets to get a private concert (after all, I'm playing it for him anyway).   Neil Brown First United Methodist Church Toms River, NJ USA   (Where I opened mail to discover how much the church will pay in 2002 to provide medical benefits for my family and me!!!!!!!!!! Me thinks I'll = stay here a while, unless God has other plans).   --part1_151.51be7d7.293da770_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I notice that more = people are staying to listen to the postlude, regardless of what is = played.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Isn't exactly happening here, BUT, everyone lines up in the center = aisle to shake the pastor's hand. &nbsp;So, if the line is somewhat slow, = they hear my postlude. &nbsp;If not, then God gets to get a private = concert (after all, I'm playing it for him anyway). <BR> <BR>Neil Brown <BR>First United Methodist Church <BR>Toms River, NJ USA <BR> <BR>(Where I opened mail to discover how much the church will pay in 2002 = to provide medical benefits for my family and me!!!!!!!!!! &nbsp;Me thinks = I'll stay here a while, unless God has other plans). &nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_151.51be7d7.293da770_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday? From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 23:14:57 EST     --part1_b6.2c63709.293da7c1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/3/2001 7:03:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, ScottFop@aol.com writes:     >   My choir must recess before I begin the postlude, or they simply would = NEVER get out of the church.   Scott, where are you now? Inquiring minds want to know :)   Neil Brown   --part1_b6.2c63709.293da7c1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 12/3/2001 7:03:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, = ScottFop@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My entire choir = sits IN THE CHOIR STALLS for the entire Organ Voluntary </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>My choir must recess before I begin the postlude, or they simply would = NEVER get out of the church. <BR> <BR>Scott, &nbsp;where are you now? &nbsp;Inquiring minds want to know :) <BR> <BR>Neil Brown</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b6.2c63709.293da7c1_boundary--