PipeChat Digest #2539 - Wednesday, December 5, 2001
 
Re: Building a Library of Organ Music
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
A new baby is on the way . . .
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Individual sliders for Mixture Ranks
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: postludes
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: A new baby is on the way . . .
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Individual sliders for Mixture Ranks
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: A new baby is on the way . . .
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Building a Library of Organ Music From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:30:05 EST     --part1_6b.1ed4c6b2.293fc1ad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/5/01 10:45:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, manderusa@earthlink.net writes:     > I have replaced a few volumes, > which shows I do practice! It's the volumes with all the difficult = pieces > that are in the best condition!   Schnicquer!!! This reminds me of when I purchase the Liszt piano works. = I took them home and they went immediately to the shelves. Four or five = years later I came across them and decided to give it a shot. Alas, upon = opening one of the volumes I was aghast to discover that the middle twenty or so pages had not printed properly and were nearly blank. Figuring the = statute of limitations was up, I placed them back on the shelf where they remain = to this day. Anybody want some "collector's item" Liszt.   My other collector's item is the second volume of Audsley's The Art of = Organ Building. The middle hundred or so pages are sewn in up-side down. I = did discover this immediately, but thought it unique enough to keep! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_6b.1ed4c6b2.293fc1ad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 12/5/01 10:45:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, manderusa@earthlink.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have replaced a = few volumes, <BR>which shows I do practice! It's the volumes with all the difficult = pieces <BR>that are in the best condition! </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Schnicquer!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;This reminds me of when I purchase the Liszt = piano works. &nbsp;&nbsp;I took them home and they went immediately to the = shelves. &nbsp;&nbsp;Four or five years later I came across them and = decided to give it a shot. &nbsp;&nbsp;Alas, upon opening one of the = volumes I was aghast to discover that the middle twenty or so pages had = not printed properly and were nearly blank. &nbsp;&nbsp;Figuring the = statute of limitations was up, I placed them back on the shelf where they = remain to this day. &nbsp;&nbsp;Anybody want some "collector's item" = Liszt. <BR> <BR>My other collector's item is the second volume of Audsley's The Art of = Organ Building. &nbsp;&nbsp;The middle hundred or so pages are sewn in = up-side down. &nbsp;&nbsp;I did discover this immediately, but thought it = unique enough to keep! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6b.1ed4c6b2.293fc1ad_boundary--  
(back) Subject: A new baby is on the way . . . From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:02:50 -0600   A new computer is supposed to be delivered to our house today, so I don't know how long I may not hear from you all! You know how men never read instructions. Happy Hanukkah.   Glenda Sutton            
(back) Subject: Individual sliders for Mixture Ranks From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:11:50 EST   Pipechatters:   These SOUND like a good idea, but one ends up with false tunings, as the relative pressure in the pipe feet drops incrementally as ranks are added. = Any blockage of wind at or before the mouth of the pipe is a very poor = idea when tuning upperwork.   On electropneumatic pitman actions in which there is a separate pouch rail =   for each of the ranks, some builders provided cutout switches. Since each =   rank is essentially controlled separately BEFORE the toehole, one does not =   end up with the same problems of pressure differential and pitch sag as = one does with sliders or blocking the toe.   The best way to tune mixtures accurately is to leave the job to a professional; he or she will know how to tune the beasts in each = different situation, especially if you are unfortunately enough to have a mixture planted on a chromatic chest. Our policy is to tune mixtures which are = laid out on chromatic chests in whole steps, starting first with C, then with C-sharp. It is AMAZING how skipping every other note, and avoiding = shading and sympathetic resonance, aids in accuracy.   One might innocently tune a mixture to the 4' Principal behind it, without =   realizing that the tuning is completely false because of drawing. Find the =   well-voiced Gamba elsewhere in the division as a tuning reference before completely retuning.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: postludes From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:32:40 +1300   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_007A_01C17E30.91A627C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Thanks, Bruce. But it does go worse than that. I'm a howling autocrat in = =3D some aspects of the music as well. Maybe if I'd been Vicar of parishes =3D that were much larger and had more professional staff than just me it =3D might have been different, but risking withdrawal of your lovely =3D comments, here goes. In Anglican parishes (can't answer for the ECUSA, I'm speaking of the NZ = =3D Anglican Church) the Vicar is actually Director of Music as he is =3D charged by the Bishop with the oversight of everything that goes on in =3D the church building. In practice, of course, 99% of vicars butt out and = =3D are ignorant musically, anyway, leaving instruments, words, tunes etc. =3D to whoever happens to get lumbered with the music. Here are some of my =3D nastinesses - 1. nothing electronic whatever, except perhaps a SOFT bass guitar. So, = =3D no ugliness visually or sonically in the church. 2. no amplifiers and speakers for either speakers or musicians, =3D including liturgical assistants, readers, intercessors and me. Only =3D exceptions - funerals and weddings, and then only for non-parish people. = =3D So, people had to learn to use their voices, not croon into mikes like a = =3D nightclub. 3. all music, both words and music, must be approved by me, except for = =3D the purely-instrumental stuff for pre- and post-ludes etc. This was =3D always done in consultation and it worked exceptionally well in =3D practice. Any hymns/songs had to be good musically, good poetically, good =3D theologically. In other words, no repetitive advertising jingles that =3D are merely tonic, dominant, maybe something else, back to the tonic, and = =3D with only a "pretty" little theme for a tune. They had to read well and = =3D make sense, not using words like "I", "just" and "Hallelujah" all the =3D time. Theologically sound means actually making sense, not merely =3D saying, "Thank you God" or "Please love me and guide me" or whatever.=3D20 I never concerned myself about style as much as the above three main =3D points. In fact, I made it my practice quite deliberately to use both =3D words and music from other nations, cultures and ages, so we would be =3D given a broader understanding of the Faith than if we stuck just with =3D the latest fad. So, in a service we might have, purely as an =3D illustrative example here, Cwm Rhonda and "Guide me, O thou great =3D Redeemer" to begin with, modern "There is a Redeemer" at the Gradual, =3D words from the Iona Community to an old Scots folksong tune at the =3D Offertory, the choir singing a plainsong hymn during communion, and =3D something like modern words to a rumbustious tune to conclude. It would = =3D vary a lot, of course, especially at prominent seasons of the church =3D year, but that is a kind of example. Too, the parish had been using Ancient & Modern supplemented by a host =3D of modern choruses and things, the parish having bought heaps of stuff. = =3D I made the comment to the congregation that we didn't have to merely ape = =3D what other parishes were doing, either oldfashioned or with-it. We had =3D to establish our own musical style to suit our parish's style and =3D outlook. So, I asked for their suggestions for a big Supplement for =3D Ancient & Modern, the latter containing a number of fine hymns that in =3D no way were we going to discard.=3D20 The congregation took about 3 months to produce some 40 items from =3D various places that they felt they really wanted. I then added stacks =3D from my piles of things, and persuaded a photocopy company to let me =3D print off, free, 130 copies of "The Music Book". It contained 220 items = =3D by then, and I persuaded a printing firm to bind it for me in such a way = =3D that additions could be made. All copies had the music. I solved =3D copyright problems in the proper ways, not ignoring them (well, 98% of =3D the time).=3D20 By the time I left the parish recently, almost 8 yrs later, the Music =3D Book had grown to 390 items. Many were in use only by our parish, I'm =3D sure, and about a couple of dozen had been written by parishioners, =3D including me. Anyone at any stage could recommend the inclusion of =3D something new, and parishioners were always encouraged to choose a hymn = =3D they wanted on a particular day, some weeks in advance of course, and =3D were also always encouraged to choose the lot for one particular service = =3D if they wished. The Music Groups (there were others apart from the =3D choir) gave me their choices in advance. Uusually, acceptance by me =3D amounted to some 98%, so it was really just a matter of advising me, not = =3D asking me. One lady, a fine piano teacher, played the organ for the hymns but =3D classical music on the 7'8" Bechstein for the voluntaries. Another, good organist and pianist but exceptionally stunning flutist, =3D would often play something like a slow movement of a Bach flute sonata =3D during Communion, unaccompanied. There were The Wallies, a group of five singers with three guitars. The Music Group itself was usually two guitars, 2 to 3 flutes, piano and = =3D 8 to 9 singers. The choir was only about 9 except on major occasions. There was a group of younger folk who played now and then - usually =3D about 5 flutes, 4 recorders, a clarinet and a guitar, no singing. On big occasions, we would join forces, and some folk were in more than = =3D one group, of course. So, we could have at Christmas and Easter, for =3D example, about 20 singers, 5 flutes, a clarinet, the grand piano, the =3D organ, 3 guitars & bass guitar, several recorders - all at once with =3D not an amplifier or mike in sight. Oh yes, another diktat of mine - no ohp screen as they only uglify the =3D building and are distracting. For my last two years there, I put all the = =3D words of the hymns listed as 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. in the weekly parish =3D newsletter-cum-service sheet. (I did this thing, as I had no secretarial = =3D help at all). Uusually, I printed off about a dozen copies of the music = =3D for parishioners who were able to read the music and wanted to, and of =3D course the musicians had their own copies well in advance, with all the = =3D leaders of music groups, plus organists and pianists, getting updates =3D from me for their own "Complete Edition" of my Mujsic Book. And all of this in a parish church that seated about 220 and had fewer =3D than that at most services. So, the music was a major unifying thing in = =3D the parish, both theologically and socially. I loved it.=3D20 Reading the above, it sounds complicated and dictatorial, but in =3D practice it was all camaraderie and sharing and took infinitely less =3D time to do than would appear.=3D20 After all, do you wish to withdraw your cloning suggestion and your nice = =3D remarks? Has anyone on this List had this kind of set-up to contend =3D with? Or such a weird Vicar? Ross -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com <Cremona502@cs.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, December 06, 2001 7:00 AM Subject: Re: postludes     Thanks for sharing your experiences, Rev'd Dr. Sir....=3D20   Have you thought of being cloned and leasing your little selves to =3D support yourself in retirement. You certainly are a gem and I'm sure =3D were/are much appreciated by those who serve with you.=3D20   Happy retirement!=3D20   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com =3D20 with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, = Bohawow!"=3D20 Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi=3D20 Please visit Howling Acres at = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/=3D20 and wander through the Mall Without Walls=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_007A_01C17E30.91A627C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV>Thanks, Bruce. But it does go worse than that. I'm a howling =3D autocrat in=3D20 some aspects of the music as well. Maybe if I'd been Vicar of parishes =3D that were=3D20 much larger and had more professional staff than just me it might have =3D been=3D20 different, but risking withdrawal of your lovely comments, here =3D goes.</DIV> <DIV>In Anglican parishes (can't answer for the ECUSA, I'm speaking of =3D the NZ=3D20 Anglican Church) the Vicar is actually Director of Music as he is =3D charged by the=3D20 Bishop with the oversight of everything that goes on in the church =3D building. In=3D20 practice, of course, 99% of vicars butt out and are ignorant musically, = =3D anyway,=3D20 leaving instruments, words, tunes etc. to whoever happens to get =3D lumbered with=3D20 the music. Here are some of my nastinesses -</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;1. nothing electronic whatever, except perhaps a SOFT bass =3D guitar.=3D20 So, no ugliness visually or sonically in the church.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;2. no amplifiers and speakers for either speakers or =3D musicians,=3D20 including liturgical assistants, readers, intercessors and me. Only =3D exceptions -=3D20 funerals and weddings, and then only for non-parish people. So, people =3D had to=3D20 learn to use their voices, not croon into mikes like a nightclub.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;3. all music, both words and music, must be approved by me, =3D except=3D20 for the purely-instrumental stuff for pre- and post-ludes etc. This was = =3D always=3D20 done in consultation and it worked exceptionally well in practice.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; Any hymns/songs had to be good musically, good poetically, =3D good=3D20 theologically. In other words, no repetitive advertising jingles that =3D are merely=3D20 tonic, dominant, maybe something else, back to the tonic, and with only = =3D a=3D20 "pretty" little theme for a tune. They had to read well and make sense, = =3D not=3D20 using words like "I", "just" and "Hallelujah" all the time. =3D Theologically sound=3D20 means actually making sense, not merely saying, "Thank you God" or =3D "Please love=3D20 me and guide me" or whatever. </DIV> <DIV>I never concerned myself about style as much as the above three =3D main=3D20 points. In fact, I made it my practice quite deliberately to use both =3D words and=3D20 music from other nations, cultures and ages, so we would be given a =3D broader=3D20 understanding of the Faith than if we stuck just with the latest fad. =3D So, in a=3D20 service we might have, purely as an illustrative example here, Cwm =3D Rhonda and=3D20 "Guide me, O thou great Redeemer" to begin with, modern "There is a =3D Redeemer" at=3D20 the Gradual, words from the Iona Community to an old Scots folksong tune = =3D at the=3D20 Offertory, the choir singing a plainsong hymn during communion, and =3D something=3D20 like modern words to a rumbustious tune to conclude. It would vary a =3D lot, of=3D20 course, especially at prominent seasons of the church year, but that is = =3D a kind=3D20 of example.</DIV> <DIV>Too, the parish had been using Ancient &amp; Modern supplemented by = =3D a host=3D20 of modern choruses and things, the parish having bought heaps of stuff. = =3D I made=3D20 the comment to the congregation that we didn't have to merely ape what =3D other=3D20 parishes were doing, either oldfashioned or with-it. We had to establish = =3D our own=3D20 musical style to suit our parish's style and outlook. So, I asked for =3D their=3D20 suggestions for a big Supplement for Ancient &amp; Modern, the latter =3D containing=3D20 a number of fine hymns that in no way were we going to discard. </DIV> <DIV>The congregation took about 3 months to produce some 40 items from = =3D various=3D20 places that they felt they really wanted. I then added stacks from my =3D piles of=3D20 things, and persuaded a photocopy company to let me print off, free, 130 = =3D copies=3D20 of "The Music Book". It contained 220 items by then, and I persuaded a =3D printing=3D20 firm to bind it for me in such a way that additions could be made. All =3D copies=3D20 had the music. I solved copyright problems in the proper ways, not =3D ignoring them=3D20 (well, 98% of the time). </DIV> <DIV>By the time I left the parish recently, almost 8 yrs later, the =3D Music Book=3D20 had grown to 390 items. Many were in use only by our parish, I'm sure, =3D and about=3D20 a couple of dozen had been written by parishioners, including me. Anyone = =3D at any=3D20 stage could recommend the inclusion of something new, and parishioners =3D were=3D20 always encouraged to choose a hymn they wanted on a particular day, some = =3D weeks=3D20 in advance of course, and were also always encouraged to choose the lot = =3D for one=3D20 particular service if they wished. The Music Groups (there =3D were&nbsp;others=3D20 apart from the choir) gave me their choices in advance. Uusually, =3D acceptance by=3D20 me amounted to some 98%, so it was really just a matter of advising me, = =3D not=3D20 asking me.</DIV> <DIV>One lady, a fine piano teacher, played the organ for the hymns = but=3D20 classical music on the 7'8" Bechstein for the voluntaries.</DIV> <DIV>Another, good organist and pianist but exceptionally stunning =3D flutist,=3D20 would often play something like a slow movement of a Bach flute sonata =3D during=3D20 Communion, unaccompanied.</DIV> <DIV>There were The Wallies, a group of five singers with three =3D guitars.</DIV> <DIV>The Music Group itself was usually two guitars, 2 to 3 flutes, =3D piano and 8=3D20 to 9 singers.</DIV> <DIV>The choir was only about 9 except on major occasions.</DIV> <DIV>There was a group of younger folk who played now and then - usually = =3D about 5=3D20 flutes, 4 recorders, a clarinet and a guitar, no singing.</DIV> <DIV>On big occasions, we would join forces, and some folk were in more = =3D than one=3D20 group, of course. So, we could have at Christmas and Easter, for =3D example, about=3D20 20 singers, 5 flutes, a clarinet, the grand piano, the organ, 3 =3D guitars&nbsp;=3D20 &amp; bass guitar, several recorders - all at once with not an amplifier = =3D or mike=3D20 in sight.</DIV> <DIV>Oh yes, another diktat of mine - no ohp screen as they only uglify = =3D the=3D20 building and are distracting. For my last two years there, I put all the = =3D words=3D20 of the hymns listed as 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. in the weekly parish=3D20 newsletter-cum-service sheet. (I did this thing, as I had no secretarial = =3D help at=3D20 all). Uusually, I printed off about a dozen copies of the music for =3D parishioners=3D20 who were able to read the music and wanted to, and of course the =3D musicians had=3D20 their own copies well in advance, with all the leaders of music groups, = =3D plus=3D20 organists and pianists, getting updates from me for their own "Complete = =3D Edition"=3D20 of my Mujsic Book.</DIV> <DIV>And all of this in a parish church that seated about 220 and had =3D fewer than=3D20 that at most services. So, the music was a major&nbsp;unifying thing in = =3D the=3D20 parish, both theologically and socially. I loved it. </DIV> <DIV>Reading the above, it sounds complicated and dictatorial, but in =3D practice=3D20 it was all camaraderie and sharing and took infinitely less time to do =3D than=3D20 would appear. </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT size=3D3D3>After all, do you wish to =3D withdraw</FONT>=3D20 </FONT><FONT size=3D3D3>your cloning suggestion and your nice remarks? Has = =3D anyone on=3D20 this List had this kind of set-up to contend with? Or such a weird=3D20 Vicar?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Ross</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px = =3D solid"> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><B>-----Original =3D Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=3D20 </B><A href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A> = &lt;<A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: = =3D </B><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> &lt;<A = =3D   =3D href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A>&gt;<BR><B= =3D >Date:=3D20 </B>Thursday, December 06, 2001 7:00 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re:=3D20 postludes<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT =3D size=3D3D2>Thanks=3D20 for sharing your experiences, Rev'd Dr. Sir.... <BR><BR>Have you =3D thought of=3D20 being cloned and leasing your little selves to support yourself in =3D retirement.=3D20 &nbsp;&nbsp;You certainly are a gem and I'm sure were/are much =3D appreciated by=3D20 those who serve with you. <BR><BR>Happy retirement! <BR><BR>Bruce =3D Cornely=3D20 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with = the=3D20 Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"=3D20 <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please = =3D visit=3D20 Howling Acres at &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/=3D20 <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_007A_01C17E30.91A627C0--      
(back) Subject: Re: A new baby is on the way . . . From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:59:33 EST     --part1_b7.17e3e7d8.293fd6a5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/5/01 2:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes:     > A new computer is supposed to be delivered to our house today, so I = don't > know how long I may not hear from you all! You know how men never read > instructions.   Maybe they'll send an installation CD along with it! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_b7.17e3e7d8.293fd6a5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 12/5/01 2:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A new computer is = supposed to be delivered to our house today, so I don't <BR>know how long I may not hear from you all! &nbsp;You know how men = never read <BR>instructions. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Maybe they'll send an installation CD along with it! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b7.17e3e7d8.293fd6a5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Individual sliders for Mixture Ranks From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:02:34 EST     --part1_bc.1e03e0d2.293fd75a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/5/01 2:13:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes:     > On electropneumatic pitman actions in which there is a separate pouch = rail > for each of the ranks, some builders provided cutout switches.   I remember a '54 Schantz in which the mixture ranks were on separate = actions and were placed in different locations on the chest with a couple of ranks = in between. Does this improve the situation?   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_bc.1e03e0d2.293fd75a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 12/5/01 2:13:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">On = electropneumatic pitman actions in which there is a separate pouch rail <BR>for each of the ranks, some builders provided cutout switches. = </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I remember a '54 Schantz in which the mixture ranks were on separate = actions and were placed in different locations on the chest with a couple = of ranks in between. &nbsp;&nbsp;Does this improve the situation? <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_bc.1e03e0d2.293fd75a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: A new baby is on the way . . . From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:07:52 -0600       Glenda wrote:   > A new computer is supposed to be delivered to our house today, so I = don't > know how long I may not hear from you all! You know how men never read > instructions.   Why bother? They're only there in case the table has uneven legs, = anyway....   ns