PipeChat Digest #2540 - Thursday, December 6, 2001
 
Re: postludes
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: A new baby is on the way . . .
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: PipeChat Digest #2539 - 12/05/01
  by "Ken Earl" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com>
Re: Mixture tuning hints (Longish)
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
(no subject)
  by "d e" <sven72es@hotmail.com>
Someone please remind me . . .
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: postludes
  by "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net>
"Jesus, Jesus, Come to Me" Music - X-Post
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re:
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday?
  by <Donovan002@aol.com>
Re: Someone please remind me . . .Sage Advice!
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Someone please remind me . . .
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: "Jesus, Jesus, Come to Me" Music - X-Post
  by "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: postludes From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:12:54 EST     --part1_9f.1f6355f1.293fd9c6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/5/01 2:15:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, TheShieling@xtra.co.nz writes:     > After all, do you wish to withdraw your cloning suggestion and your nice =   >   Actually, I'd probably double the order. Sounds like you took the bull = by the horns and led (as a shepherd should) the parish into a unified worship =   life. The main advantage I see is that you, as the vicar, did it. Most =   people will not respond to an unordained musician in this way. I tried = it once and there was no response to my plea; the exact same plea was made = by the rector (a non-musician) and the response was at least respectable. Being clergy carries alot of weight - for bette or worse.   I would really have liked to work with someone like you sometime during my =   career. I think it would have been great fun. My only request would = have been for a larger, tracker organ!! The piano, however, would have been more than "adequate."   Cheers...   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ and wander through the Mall Without Walls   --part1_9f.1f6355f1.293fd9c6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 12/5/01 2:15:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, TheShieling@xtra.co.nz writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">After all, do you wish to withdraw</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> </FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0">your cloning suggestion and your nice remarks? </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Actually, I'd probably double the order. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sounds like = you took the bull by the horns and led (as a shepherd should) the parish = into a unified worship life. &nbsp;&nbsp;The main advantage I see is that = you, as the vicar, did it. &nbsp;&nbsp;Most people will not respond to an = unordained musician in this way. &nbsp;&nbsp;I tried it once and there was = no response to my plea; &nbsp;the exact same plea was made by the rector = (a non-musician) and the response was at least respectable. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Being clergy carries alot of weight - for bette or = worse. <BR> <BR>I would really have liked to work with someone like you sometime = during my career. &nbsp;I think it would have been great fun. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My only request would have been for a larger, tracker = organ!! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The piano, however, would have been more than = "adequate." &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Cheers... <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT></HTML>   --part1_9f.1f6355f1.293fd9c6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: A new baby is on the way . . . From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:07:28 +1300   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_006B_01C17E46.31468440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   No one ever reads instructions, unless all else fails. Ross -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com <Cremona502@cs.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: Re: A new baby is on the way . . .=3D20     In a message dated 12/5/01 2:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, =3D gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes:=3D20       A new computer is supposed to be delivered to our house today, so I = =3D don't=3D20 know how long I may not hear from you all! You know how men never =3D read=3D20 instructions. =3D20     Maybe they'll send an installation CD along with it! ;-)=3D20   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com =3D20 with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, = Bohawow!"=3D20 Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi=3D20 Please visit Howling Acres at = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/=3D20 and wander through the Mall Without Walls=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_006B_01C17E46.31468440 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>No one ever reads instructions, unless all else=3D20 fails.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Ross</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px = =3D solid"> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><B>-----Original =3D Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=3D20 </B><A href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A> = &lt;<A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: = =3D </B><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> &lt;<A = =3D   =3D href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A>&gt;<BR><B= =3D >Date:=3D20 </B>Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:00 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: A new =3D baby is=3D20 on the way . . . <BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT =3D face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT=3D20 size=3D3D2>In a message dated 12/5/01 2:12:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, = =3D <A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"mailto:gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com">gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com</A> = =3D writes:=3D20 <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = =3D solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=3D20 TYPE=3D3D"CITE">A new computer is supposed to be delivered to our house = =3D today,=3D20 so I don't <BR>know how long I may not hear from you all! &nbsp;You = =3D know how=3D20 men never read <BR>instructions. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial=3D20 color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D3 =3D FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D3D0=3D20 face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>Maybe =3D they'll send an=3D20 installation CD along with it! &nbsp;;-) <BR><BR>Bruce Cornely=3D20 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with = the=3D20 Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"=3D20 <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Duncan, Miles, Molly, and Dewi <BR>Please = =3D visit=3D20 Howling Acres at &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/=3D20 <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;and wander through the Mall Without Walls</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_006B_01C17E46.31468440--      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #2539 - 12/05/01 From: "Ken Earl" <ken_earl01@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:30:10 -0000   GLENDA WROTE>>>>   >>A new computer is supposed to be delivered to our >>house today, so I don't >>know how long I may not hear from you all! You >>know how men never = read >>instructions.<<   Men don't need instructions, we obey instinct :-))   On that point though, why do most brides wear white???   'cos most major kitchen apppliances are white!!   Ken      
(back) Subject: Re: Mixture tuning hints (Longish) From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:40:42 -0800   I am afraid that the usual sort of multi rank mixture cannot be tuned by removing mixture pipes removed from the foot holes while you tune other pipes. The wind wil be change when pipes are removed and when the pipes are replaced the tuning will alter.   We use cotton buds to silence the pipes which are not being tuned so that the wind is remains steady. The octaves are tuned first and the fifths are then added and tuned one at a time. Bob Elms.  
(back) Subject: From: "d e" <sven72es@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 20:36:16 -0500   Does anyone know of a restorable French harmonium for sale in New England area?     _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp    
(back) Subject: Someone please remind me . . . From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:15:09 -0600   Why am I here? What am I doing here? Is it worth it all?   I thought that while laying on the hardwood floor of the church after unscrewing the braces holding the back pew in place. The AGO chapter = asked me to host the Advent Lessons and Carols again this year. The date has = been set since before Labor Day, and the priest has had all that time to work = on getting readers and getting them their lessons. I had to come up with the readings, the program, the music, and a choir and director from the = chapter, and do the publicity.   Today I took off the afternoon from work to go to the church. I = rearranged all the church furniture, by myself, to accommodate the readers, extra congregation, and a choir. I have practiced my music, and have music for the choir sorted and in folders, and an order of service for us. I was ready to go to print on the bulletin, when the priest notified me that not one but three of his readers, all asked just last week, have backed out. There was no toner in the copier, although I asked him to order it a month ago just for this season and the extra programs we have to do.   He asked me to do a reading, and I arranged it so that I could take a reading while another organist was at the bench. Then tonight at = rehearsal a person showed up out of the blue, and he took away my reading. The = whole rehearsal was a joke - the priest was totally unprepared. I had to take charge just so we can get through and I can go home.   I know this work is for the glory of God, but I'm so tired of people doing = a half-assed, half-baked, thrown-together last-minute mess of God's work. = I'm tired of a small church with a bunch of stupid little chiefs and no = Indians, always thinking small, never progressing, never growing, never making room for God if he wanted to be there. It could happen - he could decide to = drop in and visit.   There's no other Episcopal church for 30 miles, and nowhere else I want to be in this area. There's no other organ worth playing for about 50 miles.   I'm on the ledge. Should I jump?   Before you answer that, remember: be nice to the feeble-minded.   Glenda Sutton        
(back) Subject: Re: postludes From: "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 21:48:49 -0500 (EST)   I still cannot read your stuff. The print is very faint !!   Ed    
(back) Subject: "Jesus, Jesus, Come to Me" Music - X-Post From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 19:44:48 -0600   I had an inquiry as to where to find the song "Jesus, Jesus, Come to Me" in sheet music. The song can be heard on http://www.mp3.com/hendricksonorgan     Thanks! Paul Soulek  
(back) Subject: Re: From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:24:47 +1300   Sadly no, not in New England, but I have a large Alexandre here of about 8rks of reeds, being given away literally this week. Too costly by far to ship from New Zealand. All reeds working well, too, though the case needs = a fair bit of work. I've had Christophes in my time, too, and once had a 2-deck Mustel of about 16 sets of reeds, including a 32ft. A friend has a 3-deck & full pedal Holy for sale at the moment, total = about 22 sets of reeds. It stands some 9'6" high, is about 14ft wide, and is = some 5ft deep. Massive. The 16ft Open Diapason and the Trumpet are truly extraordinary. Sorry again, Ross Wards -----Original Message----- From: d e <sven72es@hotmail.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:36 PM     >Does anyone know of a restorable French harmonium for sale in New England >area? > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at = http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone listen to the postlude Sunday? From: <Donovan002@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:07:29 EST     --part1_134.5cd2f7f.29404901_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   At First Church in Watertown, CT, choir, clergy and congregation all = remain seated for the postlude.   --part1_134.5cd2f7f.29404901_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>At First Church in = Watertown, CT, choir, clergy and congregation all remain seated for the = postlude.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_134.5cd2f7f.29404901_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Someone please remind me . . .Sage Advice! From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:13:28 EST   Dear Glenda   You sound tired, over worked, I think it's time for several of the chiefs to do their part. It's not fair to expect you to play the organ, direct the choir, help some chief pour communion wine on your clothes, keep the AGO happy, and do assundry this and that's which don't come close to your job description. Ask your self this question, If you were unable, who would come through with the goods. You are too good hearted, and willing to pull everyone else's oar. Let some of the important chiefs pull for a while. My sage advise. You are very close to total nervous exhaustion. I can't tell you what to do, but you also know what needs to be deligated. You can't keep picking up the pieces for all these "important people". I personally would walk away in a =   heart beat. Miracles happen once or maybe twice in a lifetime. You are now expected to perform them daily. Perhaps more than once a day! Enough is enough, and I'd tell them so.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Someone please remind me . . . From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:38:06 +1300   I know how you feel, Glenda, from the other end. I'm a keen organist and choirmaster, but have just retired from 27 years as a Vicar. I've always = had to do most of the music, but usually managed to dredge up some good musicians eventually. Now I've retired from where I had a goodish pipe organ, an incredibly beautiful large Bechstein grand, and about four music groups, the parish I've retired to, 50km away, has both Yamaha upright and Allen electronic organ - horrible in the extreme, of sickening lack of quality tone, both of them. The Vicar admits he is totally tone deaf. = There is no choir, though 7 bods have said they'll do a sort-of 9 lessons & carols, but no Advent stuff. There are 6 in the "Music" Group = (deliberately in quotes), all over 65 yrs old, plus a violinist in his early 50s. No recorders, guitars, flutes, clarinets. No really good organist or pianist. Yucky choruses mostly. And a church seating 400 that gets about 90 people there at 10am on Sundays, and about 50 vastly older than me at 8am. And = I'm retired to THIS!? Sadly. Trouble is, I love church music and I love the Church and I couldn't leave either. Not my parish, but I'm going to have to get some good music = started somehow. 30km away a friend of mine is Vicar of another Anglican parish. They have a lovely tracker, unenclosed, organ from c1910, unaltered, but they're giving it away as no one in the parish wants and it and as they = have no pianist or organist anyway, they now "sing" (again, deliberately in quotes), to a boom-box and CDs and tapes. See, it can actually get worse! And yet our Wellington Cathedral, 50km away, has better music than Westminster Abbey (I'm not joking) and far better acoustics. I suffer with you, Ross Wards -----Original Message----- From: Glenda <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> To: PIPECHAT <pipechat@pipechat.org>; PIPORG-L <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu> Date: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Someone please remind me . . .     >Why am I here? What am I doing here? Is it worth it all? > >I thought that while laying on the hardwood floor of the church after >unscrewing the braces holding the back pew in place. The AGO chapter = asked >me to host the Advent Lessons and Carols again this year. The date has been >set since before Labor Day, and the priest has had all that time to work = on >getting readers and getting them their lessons. I had to come up with = the >readings, the program, the music, and a choir and director from the chapter, >and do the publicity. > >Today I took off the afternoon from work to go to the church. I = rearranged >all the church furniture, by myself, to accommodate the readers, extra >congregation, and a choir. I have practiced my music, and have music for >the choir sorted and in folders, and an order of service for us. I was >ready to go to print on the bulletin, when the priest notified me that = not >one but three of his readers, all asked just last week, have backed out. >There was no toner in the copier, although I asked him to order it a = month >ago just for this season and the extra programs we have to do. > >He asked me to do a reading, and I arranged it so that I could take a >reading while another organist was at the bench. Then tonight at = rehearsal >a person showed up out of the blue, and he took away my reading. The = whole >rehearsal was a joke - the priest was totally unprepared. I had to take >charge just so we can get through and I can go home. > >I know this work is for the glory of God, but I'm so tired of people = doing a >half-assed, half-baked, thrown-together last-minute mess of God's work. I'm >tired of a small church with a bunch of stupid little chiefs and no Indians, >always thinking small, never progressing, never growing, never making = room >for God if he wanted to be there. It could happen - he could decide to drop >in and visit. > >There's no other Episcopal church for 30 miles, and nowhere else I want = to >be in this area. There's no other organ worth playing for about 50 = miles. > >I'm on the ledge. Should I jump? > >Before you answer that, remember: be nice to the feeble-minded. > >Glenda Sutton > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: "Jesus, Jesus, Come to Me" Music - X-Post From: "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 22:57:00 -0600   Paul Soulek wrote: > I had an inquiry as to where to find the song "Jesus, Jesus, Come to Me" > in sheet music. The song can be heard on > http://www.mp3.com/hendricksonorgan Paul,   I'd think Charlie Hendrickson ought to be able to put you in touch with the people who produced the recording, who, in turn, ought to be able to tell you where they obtained the scores!   Just ask him!   HendOrg@aol.com   Gosh, you do his web-pages! I'd think you ought to know. . .   Faithfully, Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME EMAIL mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL