PipeChat Digest #2547 - Saturday, December 8, 2001
 
Re: Electrotone
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Why People stand during the Halleluia Chorus
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Re; Electrotone
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Electrotone
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re: silicon versus pipe
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
McManis
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
small organs that actually work
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
ELECTRONIC ORGANS SOUND JUST LIKE PIPE ORGANS
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
Re: "Jesus, Jesus, Come to Me" Music - X-Post
  by "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net>
Advent Lessons and Carols at St. Agatha's
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@aic-fl.com>
RE: Seeking a recommendation . . .
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Seeking a recommendation . . .
  by <CharlesHTu@aol.com>
Re: Tuners and Tuning
  by "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@qwest.net>
Re: "Electrotone" ?
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: "Electrotone" ?
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Electrotone From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:04:56 +1300   Ron, Yes! In the parish I've just retired as Vicar from we had a 7'8" Bechstein grand made in 1906. Absolutely flawless mint condition and maintained by = the country's best, at no charge to the parish as the piano was technically on loan. Far better than Steinway to my ears, as it had a more brilliant treble, a less "muffled" mid-range, and a slightly more astringent bass = with the bite of an orchestral double-bass, yet with tremendous depth of tone = and length of "hang-on" after the note was struck. To, organist rather than pianist, I just could sit and play it for hours, even hymntunes. Ross -----Original Message----- From: Ron & Mandy <ronwest@spiderweb.com.au> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Electrotone     >Dear Ross (in New Zealand), >Thank you for your levity. Nothing like a bit of stirring to lighten = things >up. >I will agree with you wholeheartedly that the tones produced by a pipe organ >are unique. So are those produced by an electronic instrument. >Electronic instruments are definitely here to stay. There is no doubt of >that. But I agree with you, Ross, that until a respectable organ builder >advertises that his pipe instrument sounds just like an electronic, then >there is still some hope for the pipe organ. >I play a pipe organ (albeit a small one) around seven days a week for around >two hours at a time. Accompanying silent films. >I also play a Hammond for the same purpose when I perform outside my regular >venue. I can happily play the pipe organ seven days a week with no aural >fatigue. I can not say the same for the Hammond. A few months ago I >accompanied a 2 hour film on a brand new Allen and found the instrument >rather disappointing. >For my ears, the sound of an electronic becomes very tiring. But this is = a >personal opinion. >And I'll take my Bechstein Grand over anything the Japanese have = produced, >thank you very much. >Regards, >Ron (in Queensland) > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Why People stand during the Halleluia Chorus From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:05:43 +1300   Or toads? -----Original Message----- From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Why People stand during the Halleluia Chorus     > > >Chris Baker asked me: > >> You're not perchance taking me a tad seriously, are you? >> No good'll come of it........... > >Absolutely not! I never stop at a tad. > >Besides, its more fun, not to mention easier, to play the "straight" >man... > >ns > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Re; Electrotone From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:08:37 +1300   Yes, Ross -----Original Message----- From: Wurlibird1@aol.com <Wurlibird1@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, December 08, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: Re; Electrotone     >Hi Ross, and listers, > >Certainly I was not implying you are a spoon, Ross, but thanks for = sharing >that description with us. I know a few people to whom it so aptly = applies >and I look forward to conferring that status on them in the future. = :-) > >I am of the opinion that any organ <within obvious bounds> is a good = organ. >There is a broadening circle among churches where organs are no longer >considered necessary. That is cause for concern and should be among all >organists and organ enthusiasts. > >Speaking only for myself, I would much prefer to see a Brand X digital or >analog organ in a church than what I am seeing with increasing frequency: >2-3 guitars, a bass, a keyboard synthesizer, 40 gazillion watts of >amplifiers, drums and other assorted dance band props. > >There is still a gap between pipes and digitals. But less than a decade ago, >it was a chasm. If the present trend toward contemporary praise bands as the >primary source of church instrumental music continues, we may soon be the >applauding the installation of any organ, regardless of its genre. > >Best wishes, >Jim Pitts > > > > > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Electrotone From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:53:41 EST   Cremona writes:     >In the southern parts of the USA if a person is "thrawn" that means he's been >tossed over the side of a bridge into the water! ;-) I suppose = that's >"difficult." <<   Well maybe in your high-classed neighborhood, Bruce, but here in = Bushville, he is simply "thoed." And since I still want a pipe organ, regardless of = the cost, does that make me intelligent? Don't answer.   Now here's a constructive thought for Waco/Crawford (aka Bushville). = Since we have the Western White House in Crawford, and Bush worships at First = UMC Crawford, could we not dub that location as National Cathedral II? As = such, it would scream for a decent pipe organ (got to keep up appearances, you know). I'm sure Roy Redman could build the perfect instrument for NC II = and it would be a strictly Texas project. :)   Best wishes, Jim Pitts            
(back) Subject: Re: silicon versus pipe From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:10:09 -0600   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > and then a second-hand McManis > unit organ ... I've had no contact with that church in many years, but I > imagine the McManis has failed by now. >   I rather doubt it. Working in Kansas and Missouri, where I service quite = a few McManis organs, I have developed a pretty healthy respect for Charlie. His instruments were on the whole solidly built and he never cut corners. His instruments have therefore required much less restoration than most instruments of their period. While building in a fairly "American = Classic" style, he refused to go in for the worst excesses of skinny scales, ridiculously low pressure and chiffy sizzling pipework that characterize = the sixties and seventies. On the whole his instruments have held up = remarkably well, and dated considerably less than those of most other builders. He often liked to characterize himself as continuing the tradition of Johnson and Roosevelt, and in some ways this is exactly what he did.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: McManis From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 20:18:04 -0800   Odd ... I've had just the opposite experience.   CHeers,   Bud   "John L. Speller" wrote:   > quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > and then a second-hand McManis > > unit organ ... I've had no contact with that church in many years, but = I > > imagine the McManis has failed by now. > > > > I rather doubt it. Working in Kansas and Missouri, where I service = quite a > few McManis organs, I have developed a pretty healthy respect for = Charlie. > His instruments were on the whole solidly built and he never cut = corners. > His instruments have therefore required much less restoration than most > instruments of their period. While building in a fairly "American = Classic" > style, he refused to go in for the worst excesses of skinny scales, > ridiculously low pressure and chiffy sizzling pipework that characterize = the > sixties and seventies. On the whole his instruments have held up = remarkably > well, and dated considerably less than those of most other builders. He > often liked to characterize himself as continuing the tradition of = Johnson > and Roosevelt, and in some ways this is exactly what he did. > > John Speller > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: small organs that actually work From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:38:12 +1300   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C1800F.1BCA6BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Bud, Yes, indeed. Organist friends often tell they'd rather have an =3D electronic thing with two decks and full pedals than a pipe organ of 1 =3D deck, no pedals and only 4 stops. Not me. For the same price as a fair electronic you could get an organ of - 8 Stopped Diapason 8 Dulciana (to TenC perhaps, but preferably CC) 4 Gemshorn (or Principal) 2 Fifteenth Octave Coupler Unenclosed, on good scaling and about 3" wind, and placed in a good =3D place to hear it, that would accompany a congregation of 500 singing =3D lustily without the organ screaming, yet with the Dulciana it could be =3D just a quiet breath, esp. if it were voiced NOT to be part of any other = =3D combination. The Dulc. at 8 with 8ve cplr would be very useful, too. In my last church, with low roof and seating 220 and smothered in =3D carpet, with the seats all padded back and seat, we had a 4rk organ, =3D with the Diapason and 1-12 of the Bourdon unenclosed. Sure, electric, =3D but it was built in 1962. We enlarged the swell box, revoiced the pipes and put the organ in a =3D good position at the back over the door, and the organ is now stunningly = =3D successful, rich, brilliant, deep etc. all at once. Organist listeners =3D say it sounds like about 15 straight ranks, yet it's just a wee thing. =3D Infinitely better than in another church, where they bought a brandnew =3D large Allen and turfed out the organ for just $250, even though the =3D latter was built in just 1974. I bought it. Offered them $300 when it =3D went up for tender but they said that was too much. No one else offered = =3D them anything. Until I retired as Vicar recently, I had my little organ = =3D wired into the 4rk unit job, and we had an absolutely fabulous organ =3D though, obviously to me only, it needed a reed. The original organ is on = =3D 2.75" wind, my little one 2.25" wind. Oh yes, the scheme? GREAT 16 Bourdon (all stopt wood, NZ-made)(1-12 unencl.) 8 Open Diapason (1-25 in showcase. Laukhuff) 8 Stopped Diapason (from 16ft, all in Swellbox) 4 Octave (extn) 2 2/3 12th (from encl.Gemshorn) 2 Block Flute (extn Stopt, only top handful open) . Mixture III (22.26.29)(2 and a half 8ves only, now unenclosed, =3D repeats therefore) =3D20 SWELL 8 Stopt.Diap. (from Great) 8 Gemshorn (1-12 from St.Diap.) 4 Gemshorn (extn) 4 Lieb.Fl. (St.Diap.) 2 Gemshorn (extn) 1 1/3 Larigot (St.Diap.) 1 Gemshorn (extn)   PEDAL 16 Bourdon (Grt) 8 Principal (Grt) 8 Bass Flute (Grt) 4 Octave (Grt) 4 Flute (St.Diap.) 2 2/3 19th (Gems.) 2 22nd (Diap.)   no couplers or pistons   The new Swell box we made can be walked into and the door shut, from the = =3D end, so no tuning problems. The shutters are now made to open at right =3D angles and the bottom of the shutters are 18" below the mouths of the =3D pipes, so every trace of sound can fall out, yet the box shuts =3D everything to a whisper when closed. With the placement, the Op.Diap. =3D can support 100 people singing on their own, yet is gentle and retiring = =3D at the same time. My little organ (remember the $250 one I added temporarily) was all on a = =3D slider chest, so just needed a spare under-key contact to make it go. =3D Unenclosed, own blower and reservoir. Volume of Gedackt - about the same = =3D as the Stopt.Diap. with the box 3 qrs closed. Only playable on the Great. Liquid singing mutations, yet the 2ft, =3D Larigot and 1ft gave a singing brilliance to the Great that was =3D mind-blowing. My ranks - 8 Gedackt (all plain metal, 1-25 in showcase) 4 Rohr Flute (all spotted chimney flutes) 2 Prinzipal (a spotted rk of great spike and no screech) 1 1/3 Gemsquint (tapered, plain metal, TenG# up only) 1 Oktav (spotted, not unlike a non-flutey Gemshorn)   Look, I know it sounds silly, but many organists love that whole thing, = =3D yet still only 9rks total. Everything worked, esp. trios, chorale =3D preludes, 18thC English, etc., yet the 16 Bdn and 8 Op.Diap. were clear =3D in chords yet wonderfully deep and rich for things like the Nimrod piece = =3D of Elgar. Shivers! And, all the original pipes on direct-electric from =3D 1962.=3D20 So, there we are, Ross   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C1800F.1BCA6BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV>Bud,</DIV> <DIV>Yes, indeed. Organist friends often tell they'd rather have an =3D electronic=3D20 thing with two decks and full pedals than a pipe organ of 1 deck, no =3D pedals and=3D20 only 4 stops. Not me.</DIV> <DIV>For the same price as a&nbsp;fair electronic you could get an organ = =3D of=3D20 -</DIV> <DIV>8&nbsp; Stopped Diapason</DIV> <DIV>8&nbsp; Dulciana&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (to TenC perhaps, but preferably = =3D   CC)</DIV> <DIV>4&nbsp; Gemshorn&nbsp; (or Principal)</DIV> <DIV>2&nbsp; Fifteenth</DIV> <DIV>Octave&nbsp;Coupler</DIV> <DIV>Unenclosed, on good scaling and about 3" wind, and placed in a good = =3D place=3D20 to hear it, that would accompany a congregation of 500 singing lustily =3D without=3D20 the organ screaming, yet with the Dulciana it could be just a quiet =3D breath, esp.=3D20 if it were voiced NOT to be part of any other combination. The Dulc. = at=3D20 8&nbsp;with 8ve cplr would be very useful, too.</DIV> <DIV>In my last church, with low roof and seating 220 and smothered in =3D carpet,=3D20 with the seats all padded back and seat, we had a 4rk organ, with the =3D Diapason=3D20 and 1-12 of the Bourdon unenclosed. Sure, electric, but it was built = in=3D20 1962.</DIV> <DIV>We enlarged the swell box, revoiced the pipes and put the organ in = =3D a good=3D20 position at the back over the door, and the organ is now stunningly =3D successful,=3D20 rich, brilliant, deep etc. all at once. Organist listeners say it sounds = =3D like=3D20 about 15 straight ranks, yet it's just a wee thing. Infinitely better =3D than in=3D20 another church, where they bought a brandnew large Allen and turfed out = =3D the=3D20 organ for just $250, even though the latter was built in just 1974. I =3D bought it.=3D20 Offered them $300 when it went up for tender but they said that was too = =3D much. No=3D20 one else offered them anything. Until I retired as Vicar recently, I had = =3D my=3D20 little organ wired into the 4rk unit job, and we had an absolutely =3D fabulous=3D20 organ though, obviously to me only, it needed a reed. The original organ = =3D is on=3D20 2.75" wind, my little one 2.25" wind. Oh yes, the scheme?</DIV> <DIV>GREAT</DIV> <DIV>16&nbsp; Bourdon (all stopt wood, NZ-made)(1-12 unencl.)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 8&nbsp; Open Diapason (1-25 in showcase. Laukhuff)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 8&nbsp; Stopped Diapason (from 16ft, all in Swellbox)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 4&nbsp; Octave&nbsp; (extn)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 2 2/3 12th&nbsp; (from encl.Gemshorn)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 2&nbsp; Block Flute (extn Stopt, only top handful =3D open)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; .&nbsp; Mixture III (22.26.29)(2 and a half 8ves only, = now=3D20 unenclosed, repeats therefore)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>SWELL</DIV> <DIV>8&nbsp; Stopt.Diap. (from Great)</DIV> <DIV>8&nbsp; Gemshorn (1-12 from St.Diap.)</DIV> <DIV>4&nbsp; Gemshorn (extn)</DIV> <DIV>4&nbsp; Lieb.Fl. (St.Diap.)</DIV> <DIV>2&nbsp; Gemshorn (extn)</DIV> <DIV>1 1/3 Larigot (St.Diap.)</DIV> <DIV>1&nbsp; Gemshorn (extn)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>PEDAL</DIV> <DIV>16&nbsp; Bourdon (Grt)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 8&nbsp; Principal (Grt)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 8&nbsp; Bass Flute (Grt)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 4&nbsp; Octave&nbsp;(Grt)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 4&nbsp; Flute (St.Diap.)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 2 2/3 19th (Gems.)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; 2 22nd (Diap.)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>no couplers or pistons</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT size=3D3D3>The new Swell box we made can be = =3D walked into=3D20 and</FONT> </FONT>the door shut, from the end, so no tuning problems. =3D The=3D20 shutters are now made to open at right angles and the bottom of the =3D shutters are=3D20 18" below the mouths of the pipes, so every trace of sound can fall out, = =3D yet the=3D20 box shuts everything to a whisper when closed. With the placement, the =3D Op.Diap.=3D20 can support 100 people singing on their own, yet is gentle and retiring = =3D at the=3D20 same time.</DIV> <DIV>My little organ (remember the $250 one I added temporarily) was all = =3D on a=3D20 slider chest, so just needed a spare under-key&nbsp;contact to make it =3D go.=3D20 Unenclosed, own blower and reservoir. Volume of Gedackt - about the same = =3D as the=3D20 Stopt.Diap. with the box 3 qrs closed.</DIV> <DIV>Only playable on the Great. Liquid singing mutations, yet the 2ft, = =3D Larigot=3D20 and 1ft gave a singing brilliance to the Great that was mind-blowing. My = =3D ranks=3D20 -</DIV> <DIV>8&nbsp; Gedackt (all plain metal, 1-25 in showcase)</DIV> <DIV>4&nbsp; Rohr Flute (all spotted chimney flutes)</DIV> <DIV>2&nbsp; Prinzipal (a spotted rk of great spike and no =3D screech)</DIV> <DIV>1 1/3 Gemsquint (tapered, plain metal, TenG# up only)</DIV> <DIV>1 Oktav (spotted, not unlike a non-flutey Gemshorn)</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Look, I know it sounds silly, but many organists love that whole =3D thing, yet=3D20 still only 9rks total. Everything worked, esp. trios, chorale preludes, = =3D 18thC=3D20 English, etc., yet the 16 Bdn and 8 Op.Diap. were clear in chords yet=3D20 wonderfully deep and rich for things like the Nimrod piece of Elgar. =3D Shivers!=3D20 And, all the original pipes on direct-electric from 1962. </DIV> <DIV>So, there we are,</DIV> <DIV>Ross</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C1800F.1BCA6BC0--      
(back) Subject: ELECTRONIC ORGANS SOUND JUST LIKE PIPE ORGANS From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:25:09 -0800 (PST)   The electronic salesmen all say that "the XXX Electronic organ sounds just like a pipe organ".   Like WHAT pipe organ? A Pilcher? A Wicks? A Fisk? An Aeolian-Skinner?   In all my years of working on pipe organs, I have never heard two that sound alike. Even in cases where two identical instruments were built for practice rooms in colleges, they were different because of acoustics, placement in the room, tonal finishing, voicing, etc.   Whenever I voiced stops, I tried to be consistent, but one stop might be a little louder, brighter, or darker than the one before. That is not to say that one was better than the others, only different. I simply cannot produce exact duplicates.   D. Keith Morgan       __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: "Jesus, Jesus, Come to Me" Music - X-Post From: "Robert Hanudel" <hanudel@schoollink.net> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 23:43:30 -0500   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > Ron, Could I have a copy? My FAX #: 252-537-2975. Thank you! Jane Hanudel     > Dear Bud et al > > Jesus, Jesus come to me ( is in the Old Nicola A. Montani) St Gregory > Hymnal copyright 1920 assigned 1947. It's Hymn 131 on page 168 > I have the book if I could be of assistance. Send a fax # and I'll send = it. > The hymn is in the key of D major and is a 7. 7 .7 .7 It's based on a > German Melody, but altered by Nicola A. Montani. > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Advent Lessons and Carols at St. Agatha's From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@aic-fl.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:43:01 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C17F70.871EEC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   IT'S OVER!!!! Thank you, Jesus. Later, Glenda Sutton   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C17F70.871EEC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html xmlns:o=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =3D xmlns:w=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =3D xmlns=3D3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">   <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <meta name=3D3DProgId content=3D3DWord.Document> <meta name=3D3DGenerator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=3D3DOriginator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=3D3DFile-List href=3D3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C17F70.86971EC0"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:windowtext; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; text-underline:none; text-decoration:none; text-line-through:none;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=3D20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head>   <body lang=3D3DEN-US link=3D3Dblue vlink=3D3Dpurple =3D style=3D3D'tab-interval:.5in'>   <div class=3D3DSection1>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>IT'S OVER!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier =3D New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Thank you, Jesus.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier =3D New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier =3D New"'>Later,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier =3D New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Glenda Sutton<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   </div>   </body>   </html>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C17F70.871EEC60--      
(back) Subject: RE: Seeking a recommendation . . . From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:59:34 -0600   Thanks to all for your recommendations on the reed. I have cut and pasted the responses onto one document and forwarded it to the organbuilder and contributor for review. Until you're better paid, smooch, smooch.   Glenda Sutton          
(back) Subject: Re: Seeking a recommendation . . . From: <CharlesHTu@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 00:35:28 EST   Glenda, The Schalmei on my Zimmer wa built by Giesecke and is vey stable and makes = a good oboe/trumpet stop--it serves as both in my organ-- extend it to 16' = in the pedal and you have it made! I use it to add to the Great principal chorus and it adds a lot of fire = and then I have the killer trumpet---If I could have only one, I think I'd = choose this Schalmei.   Charles  
(back) Subject: Re: Tuners and Tuning From: "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@qwest.net> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 23:32:41 -0700   > My piano tuner friend at SMU just called to my attention the fact that > there is now a > TuneLab   I just downloaded this TuneLab to try out. Looks pretty good. Is anyone out there using it, and can offer some opinions or insight? I've been = using an old Strobotuner, but this seems like it would be a lot easier and flexible.   D    
(back) Subject: Re: "Electrotone" ? From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 01:34:02 EST   dlgoward@qwest.net wrote:   >=A0 It wouldn't be the first one to "evolve" out of music. --------- Very true. In the past a string quartet was de riguer for parties. Anyone=20 hire one recently?   Vicki      
(back) Subject: Re: "Electrotone" ? From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 01:35:17 EST   Bruce wrote:       > Why do you consider it "snobbery" not to like the > sound of an electronic thingy? =A0=A0Just because someone > does not like the sound of a particular instrument, does > not necessarily make them a snob! =A0=A0   Have you heard them ALL, and with an open mind?