PipeChat Digest #2584 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001
 
RE: St  John the Divine
  by "Charles E. Brown" <chabrown@bellatlantic.net>
Re: Cathedral Fire at Str. John the Devine NYC
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Jeff White's Cornet
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
Re: TWO Aeolian-Skinners endangered in NYC (X-posted)
  by <Bobmac36@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: St John the Divine From: "Charles E. Brown" <chabrown@bellatlantic.net> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:43:23 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0018_01C1881D.C84C5780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Bruce:   Very well said. No matter what gets thrown at NY, we come back stronger.   Charles     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Cremona502@cs.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:08 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: St John the Divine     In a message dated 12/18/01 8:49:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, mack02445@mindspring.com writes:         I am indeed saddened to hear and read all accounts of the destructive fire at St. John the Divine. I am thankful no one was hurt and the = main structure is intact.   Hopefully the organ will not be too adversely affected by the smoke = and that things will be back to almost normal soon.       It is indeed sad to hear of these tragedies, but as we look back over history we see that they are part of the fabric of the history and growth = of these buildings and the communities they serve. So many cathedrals have been devastated and brought to near ruin, only to rise again as the = phoenix stronger, more beautiful, and more spiritual. Consider the many = cathedrals in Europe that have risen again, and the ones in the UK that have survived wars, fires, and architectural failures. We don't have as many here in = the USA that have been through this, but Denver Co, Jacksonville Fl, Houston = Tx, and Burlington Vt immediately come to mind. St. John the Divine will survive and, with the rest of this amazinly strong city, most likely stun the world with the results.   I'm very sorry that I have not seen the NYC and St. John the Divine pre-disaster, but hopefully I will soon see the new and improved.   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0018_01C1881D.C84C5780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D989224204-19122001><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2>Bruce:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D989224204-19122001><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D989224204-19122001><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D size=3D3D2>Very=3D20 well said. No matter what gets thrown at NY, we come back=3D20 stronger.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D989224204-19122001><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D989224204-19122001><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2>Charles</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D989224204-19122001><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D989224204-19122001></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3D3Dltr align=3D3Dleft><FONT =3D face=3D3DTahoma=3D20 size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =3D pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]<B>On Behalf Of=3D20 </B>Cremona502@cs.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:08 = =3D   PM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: St John = =3D the=3D20 Divine<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT =3D size=3D3D2>In a=3D20 message dated 12/18/01 8:49:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,=3D20 mack02445@mindspring.com writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = =3D solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=3D20 TYPE=3D3D"CITE"><BR>I am indeed saddened to hear and read all accounts =3D of the=3D20 destructive <BR>fire at St. John the Divine. &nbsp;I am thankful no = =3D one was=3D20 hurt and the main <BR>structure is intact. <BR><BR>Hopefully the =3D organ will=3D20 not be too adversely affected by the smoke and <BR>that things will = =3D be back=3D20 to almost normal soon. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It is indeed sad to = =3D hear of=3D20 these tragedies, but as we look back over history we see that they are = =3D part of=3D20 the fabric of the history and growth of these buildings and the =3D communities=3D20 they serve. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So many cathedrals have been devastated = =3D and=3D20 brought to near ruin, only to rise again as the phoenix stronger, more = =3D   beautiful, and more spiritual. &nbsp;&nbsp;Consider the many =3D cathedrals in=3D20 Europe that have risen again, and the ones in the UK that have =3D survived wars,=3D20 fires, and architectural failures. &nbsp;&nbsp;We don't have as many =3D here in=3D20 the USA that have been through this, but Denver Co, Jacksonville Fl, =3D Houston=3D20 Tx, and Burlington Vt immediately come to mind. =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;St.=3D20 John the Divine will survive and, with the rest of this amazinly =3D strong city,=3D20 most likely stun the world with the results. <BR><BR>I'm very sorry =3D that I=3D20 have not seen the NYC and St. John the Divine pre-disaster, but =3D hopefully I=3D20 will soon see the new and improved. <BR><BR>Bruce Cornely=3D20 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with = the=3D20 Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" =3D <BR>Duncan,=3D20 Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi=3D20 &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains <BR>Please =3D visit=3D20 Howling Acres at &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/=3D20 <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0018_01C1881D.C84C5780--    
(back) Subject: Re: Cathedral Fire at Str. John the Devine NYC From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:45:51 EST   Hi List   What is absolutely fascinating is when you go on the Virtual Tour of the Cathedral, Click on the Portal Project, Click on the Marty Story, Click on enter the Exhibit and in the upper left is the Cathedral. Scroll down a little bit and there is a a column, with several buildings carved = in the stone and the twin WTC towers are there, Empire State Building etc.   Check it out!   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: RE: Jeff White's Cornet From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:18:17 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0035_01C1881A.46AAA400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   High in the case I can handle.....back, no. It's pretty shallow from = front to back. :-) Interesting possibilities, though!!! 8 Gedackt (low cut-up, metal) 4 Rohr Flute (spotted-metal chimney flute) 2 Prinzipal (spotted) 1 1/3 Gemsquint (tapered, a little too flutey) 1 Octave (a bright spotted rank) I'd get this new division of yours placed high inside the case, yes, but about midway back, not too close to the case front, to give the pipesound = a chance to mingle and mellow before coming out.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0035_01C1881A.46AAA400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D920211305-19122001><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D size=3D3D2>High=3D20 in the case I can handle.....back, no.&nbsp; It's pretty shallow from =3D front to=3D20 back. :-)&nbsp; Interesting possibilities, though!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = =3D solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>8 Gedackt (low cut-up, metal)</DIV> <DIV>4 Rohr Flute (spotted-metal chimney flute)</DIV> <DIV>2 Prinzipal (spotted)</DIV> <DIV>1 1/3 Gemsquint (tapered, a little too flutey)</DIV> <DIV>1 Octave (a bright spotted rank)</DIV> <DIV>I'd get this new division of yours placed high inside the case, =3D yes, but=3D20 about midway back, not too close to the case front, to give the =3D pipesound a=3D20 chance to mingle and mellow before coming =3D out.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0035_01C1881A.46AAA400--    
(back) Subject: Re: TWO Aeolian-Skinners endangered in NYC (X-posted) From: <Bobmac36@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:12:37 EST   These are busy days - Christmas is coming, ya know - so I haven't been reading about Trinity's AS, nor did I read about the cathedral today, but surely it is only a matter of cleaning the Trinity organ, -- ditto for = Saint John the Divine along with the necessary rebuilding that will eventually = take place. I am very discouraged at the thought of Trinity's AS being replaced. It = is a magnificent organ. Take it from one who has played several recitals on it =   and is sooooooooo "picky". It was always one of my favorite NYC organs. Why in the world would anyone want to replicate an Erben in the gallery. = For starters, it couldn't accompany the choir for the varied musical periods = and styles they sing. (The gallery holds only a small number of singers - perhaps 16 or 17 tops - hence the size of the choir). They certainly couldn't do their grand English anthems, and the like, with the = accompaniment of an Erben-type organ. Further, there is very little chamber space in = the chancel area, so it would not be possible to put a very sizeable organ at that end of the church. I have not attended a service or program at Trinity for several years, but =   the choir used to alternate between singing from the chancel and from the gallery. Someone on the list wondered about the acoustics. The room is extremely warm and pleasant - nice acoustics without excessive = reverberation. IMHO, the AS which is now at Trinity has everything one could want or = need - several sets of celestes, all sorts of solo and chorus reeds, beautiful principals and flutes - wonderful twin consoles. I wouldn't change a = thing. For whatever it's worth.