PipeChat Digest #2587 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001
 
RE: coupler manuals
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: Jeff White's Cornet
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: St John the Divine (x-post)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: TWO Aeolian-Skinners endangered in NYC (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: TWO Aeolian-Skinners endangered in NYC (X-posted)
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
leather (pace, Don Pearson) (grin)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: leather (pace, Don Pearson) (grin)
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
 

(back) Subject: RE: coupler manuals From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:11:36 -0500   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C188C9.5C5AC0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   You are correct. But as a thought, just think how difficult it would be to play on a floating manual.   I think it's the division that "floats" rather than the manual. The organ at Christ Church Cathedral - Houston (1939 AS) is a 3-manual 4 = manual division organ. The Choir, Positive and Great "float" by using couplers: Great On = Positive, Choir On Swell, Positive On Great. If no coupler was drawn the Choir and Positive divisions played on the bottom manual. When the coupler was engaged the effect was that of a coupler and a unison off. The pistons, however, were not affected.   On the AS 3-m at Trinity Parish - St. Augustine FL, there were three = manual divisions in the front and a Nave division in the back. The Nave = division floated and had no home keyboard. If you wanted to use it you drew the desired stops and also the "Nave on Great/Positive/Swell/Pedal". The = Nave division was not affected by couplers, but had its own set of pistons.   The same system was used for the floating Bombarde division around the corner at Memorial Presbyterian (4/97 AS), the Bombarde not having a home manual.   It's a really neat system, and I've always wondered if it could be accomplished on a mechanical action organ simply by having couplers and action, but no keyboard. builders???   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C188C9.5C5AC0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D131241020-19122001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>You are correct. But as a thought, just think how difficult it would be to play on = a floating manual.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = lang=3D0 face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>I think = it's the division that "floats" rather than the manual. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The organ at =   Christ Church Cathedral - Houston (1939 AS) is a 3-manual 4 manual = division organ. <BR>The Choir, Positive and Great "float" by using couplers: = &nbsp;Great On Positive, Choir On Swell, Positive On Great. &nbsp;&nbsp;If no coupler = was drawn the Choir and Positive divisions played on the bottom manual. &nbsp;&nbsp;When the coupler was engaged the effect was that of a coupler = and a unison off. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The pistons, however, were not affected. <BR><BR>On the AS 3-m at Trinity Parish - St. Augustine FL, there were = three manual divisions in the front and a Nave division in the back. = &nbsp;&nbsp;The Nave division floated and had no home keyboard. &nbsp;&nbsp;If you wanted = to use it you drew the desired stops and also the "Nave on = Great/Positive/Swell/Pedal". &nbsp;&nbsp;The Nave division was not affected by couplers, but had its = own set of pistons. <BR><BR>The same system was used for the floating Bombarde = division around the corner at Memorial Presbyterian (4/97 AS), the Bombarde not = having a home manual. <BR><BR>It's a really neat system, and I've always wondered = if it could be accomplished on a mechanical action organ simply by having = couplers and action, but no keyboard. &nbsp;&nbsp;builders??? <BR><BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Duncan, = Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi &nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains <BR>Please visit Howling Acres at &nbsp;&nbsp;http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ = <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT> </FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C188C9.5C5AC0A0--  
(back) Subject: RE: Jeff White's Cornet From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:22:37 -0600   The commentary on the Bunjes-designed Schlicker at Valparaiso University renovated and expanded by Dobson featured in this month's TAO will also provide some insight into PB's practices (and Dobson's remedies = therefore). Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:19 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Jeff White's Cornet     In a message dated 12/18/01 4:21:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, TheShieling@xtra.co.nz writes:         .. Second, why the laughter about a Bunjes, whatever that means?       Hi.... Just thought I'd try to clarify the Bunjes joke. Paul Bunjes was a = Lutheran organist/composer/teacher in the 60s who designed organs and came up with some really strange designs and equally strange nomenclature, such as Barduen for Bourdon, and many others. I can't find the article I had on him, but that's the jist of he joke. If you go back and peruse the specs of Jeff White's organ, youl'll notice some of the, um... interesting = names.   Thanks again for your wonderful response. I'm really enjoying your posts. =     If you get a chance, please visit us at HowlingAcres   http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502   and enjoy sniffing around. There are even some organ links!! ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/    
(back) Subject: Re: St John the Divine (x-post) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:49:00 -0800     --------------BC104B10A4E35AA3737A16AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Go to your ROOM, Brewse!   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 12/19/01 1:19:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, > TubaMagna@aol.com writes: > > > >> When excavating for the North Transept (the fire >> area), a transept dedicated to The Virgin and to be built only >> through funds >> donated by women, they breached one of many natural springs beneath >> the site, >> flooding the pit, which caused a major delay in the transept's >> construction. > > Oh dear! Constructing a transept dedicated to the BVM with funds > donated by women and their water broke!! Now is that irony or > what?? ;-) > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains > Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >   --------------BC104B10A4E35AA3737A16AE Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Go to your ROOM, Brewse! <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 12/19/01 1:19:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>When excavating for the North Transept (the fire</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>area), a transept = dedicated to The Virgin and to be built only through funds</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>donated by women, they = breached one of many natural springs beneath the site,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>flooding the pit, which caused a major delay in the transept's = construction.</font></font></blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Oh = dear!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Constructing a transept dedicated to the BVM with funds donated by women and their water broke!!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Now is that irony or = what??&nbsp; ;-)</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Bruce = Cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Duncan, = Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains">http://members.= tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains</A></font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Please = visit Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></font> <br>&nbsp;</blockquote> </html>   --------------BC104B10A4E35AA3737A16AE--    
(back) Subject: Re: TWO Aeolian-Skinners endangered in NYC (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:52:13 -0800     --------------B33823CA8077DC2682BBD20D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   It's my understanding that NYC had one of the most corrosive environments for leather BEFORE 9-11; I wouldn't be at all surprised if the air AFTER 9-11 didn't hasten the demise of LOTS of leather.   Gee, some of the denizens of the Village must be looking kinda peaked right now (snarf, snarf).   Bud (President and Founder of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Naughas)   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 12/19/01 1:05:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, > TubaMagna@aol.com writes: > > > >> Other area churches directly affected by the terrorist >> attack are simply cleaning and releathering. > > Is releathering necessary after the dust and debris or simply > cleaning, or is this a matter of convenience (releathering while the > organ is being cleaned)? > > Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" > Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains > Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ >   --------------B33823CA8077DC2682BBD20D Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> It's my understanding that NYC had one of the most corrosive environments for leather BEFORE 9-11; I wouldn't be at all surprised if the air AFTER 9-11 didn't hasten the demise of LOTS of leather. <p>Gee, some of the denizens of the Village must be looking kinda peaked right now (snarf, snarf). <p>Bud (President and Founder of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Naughas) <p>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 12/19/01 1:05:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Other area churches directly affected by the terrorist</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>attack are simply = cleaning and releathering.</font></font></blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Is = releathering necessary after the dust and debris or simply cleaning, or is this a = matter of convenience (releathering while the organ is being = cleaned)?</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Bruce = Cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; Cremona502@cs.com</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Duncan, = Miles, Molly &amp; Dewi&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains">http://members.= tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains</A></font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Please = visit Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = HREF=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></font></font></font> <br>&nbsp;</blockquote> </html>   --------------B33823CA8077DC2682BBD20D--    
(back) Subject: RE: TWO Aeolian-Skinners endangered in NYC (X-posted) From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:53:35 -0500   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C188CF.39D51C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   Never mind leather, how about lungs. It had and has one of the most corrosive environments for lungs. Granted it ain't Mehico City, or Japan = or Dallas for that matter. I live about 1 1/2 miles from "ground zero" and = for at least two months after the murder and destruction the horrid acrid = fumes permeated my neighborhood in the "East Village." It affected my breathing severely. Robert Colasacco -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:52 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: TWO Aeolian-Skinners endangered in NYC (X-posted)     It's my understanding that NYC had one of the most corrosive environments for leather BEFORE 9-11; I wouldn't be at all surprised if the air AFTER 9-11 didn't hasten the demise of LOTS of leather.   Gee, some of the denizens of the Village must be looking kinda peaked = right now (snarf, snarf).     Bud (President and Founder of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Naughas)     Cremona502@cs.com wrote:     In a message dated 12/19/01 1:05:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes:   Other area churches directly affected by the terrorist attack are simply cleaning and releathering.   Is releathering necessary after the dust and debris or simply cleaning, or is this a matter of convenience (releathering while the organ is being cleaned)?     Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Duncan, Miles, Molly & Dewi http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains <http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains> Please visit Howling Acres at http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/ <http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/>     ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C188CF.39D51C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D418285020-19122001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Never mind leather, how about lungs. It had and has one of the most corrosive = environments for lungs. Granted it ain't Mehico City, or Japan or Dallas for that = matter. I live about 1 1/2 miles from "ground zero" and for at least two months = after the murder and destruction the horrid acrid fumes permeated my neighborhood in = the "East Village." It affected my breathing severely.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D418285020-19122001><FONT face=3DGaramond = color=3D#800000>Robert Colasacco</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 19, = 2001 3:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> PipeChat<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: TWO Aeolian-Skinners = endangered in NYC (X-posted)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>It's my understanding that NYC had = one of the most corrosive environments for leather BEFORE 9-11; I wouldn't be at = all surprised if the air AFTER 9-11 didn't hasten the demise of LOTS of = leather. <P>Gee, some of the denizens of the Village must be looking kinda peaked = right now (snarf, snarf). <P>Bud (President and Founder of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty = to Naughas) <P>Cremona502@cs.com wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D-1>In = a message dated 12/19/01 1:05:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes:</FONT></FONT> <BR>&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE=3D"CITE"><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D-1>Other area = churches directly affected by the terrorist</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D-1>attack are simply cleaning and releathering.</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D-1>Is = releathering necessary after the dust and debris or simply cleaning, or is this a = matter of convenience (releathering while the organ is being cleaned)?</FONT></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D-1>Bruce Cornely&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ~&nbsp; = Cremona502@cs.com</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D-1>with the = Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!"</FONT></FONT></FONT> = <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D-1>Duncan, Miles, Molly = &amp; Dewi&nbsp; <A = href=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains">http://members.= tripod.com/Brucon502/baskerbargains</A></FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D-1>Please = visit Howling Acres at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = href=3D"http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502/">http://members.tripod.com/Bru= con502/</A></FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR>&nbsp;</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C188CF.39D51C00--  
(back) Subject: leather (pace, Don Pearson) (grin) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:01:59 -0800     --------------B9A5FBF8B761045189646241 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:   > Which makes me ask, how often must releathering be done? > > Every 15-100 years, depending on the kind of action and the quality of > the leather in the first place and the acid content of the air. > > Does it depend on whether or not an organ is used more often? I know > weather is a factor but lets say in whatever climate leaving the > weather factor out would an organ which is played more or less require > more frequent releathering? > > More is better than less ... keeps the leather supple. > Thanks,Robert I would love to climb into an organ. > > Moving right along (grin) ... > > Now, *I* have a question: > > I've never heard of applying any kind of treatment (oil, etc.) to > EXPOSED leather in an organ ... is it already treated? Or is there > another reason for not doing it? Seems to me that the exposed leather > in most old organs of my experience failed because it was dry and > cracked, aside from folds of bellows simply wearing OUT. > > OTOH, I've opened pallet-boxes of hundred-year-old trackers and found > that leather to be in PERFECT condition. > > Cheers, > > Bud-by-the-Beach   --------------B9A5FBF8B761045189646241 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> &nbsp; <p>"COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>&nbsp;<span class=3D814460720-19122001><font = face=3D"Garamond"><font color=3D"#800000">Which makes me ask, how often must releathering be done?</font></font><font = face=3D"Garamond"><font color=3D"#800000"></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1>Every 15-100 years, depending on the kind of action and the quality of the = leather in the first place and the acid content of the = air.</font></font></font><font face=3D"Garamond"><font = color=3D"#800000"></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Garamond"><font color=3D"#800000">Does it depend on = whether or not an organ is used more often? I know weather is a factor but lets say in whatever climate leaving the weather factor out would an organ = which is played more or less require more frequent = releathering?</font></font></span><font face=3D"Garamond"><font = color=3D"#800000"></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1>More is better than less ... keeps the leather supple.</font></font></font> <br><font face=3D"Garamond"><font = color=3D"#800000"></font></font>&nbsp;<span = class=3D814460720-19122001><font face=3D"Garamond"><font = color=3D"#800000">Thanks,</font></font></span><span = class=3D814460720-19122001><font face=3D"Garamond"><font = color=3D"#800000">Robert&nbsp;</font></font></span><span = class=3D814460720-19122001><font face=3D"Garamond"><font = color=3D"#800000">I would love to climb into an organ.</font></font></span><font = face=3D"Garamond"><font color=3D"#800000"></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1>Moving right along (grin) ...</font></font></font><font = face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1></font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1>Now, *I* have a question:</font></font></font><font = face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1></font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1>I've never heard of applying any kind of treatment (oil, etc.) to EXPOSED = leather in an organ&nbsp; ... is it already treated? Or is there another reason for not doing it? Seems to me that the exposed leather in most old organs of my experience failed because it was dry and cracked, aside from folds of bellows simply wearing OUT.</font></font></font><font = face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1></font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1>OTOH, I've opened pallet-boxes of hundred-year-old trackers and found that leather to be in PERFECT condition.</font></font></font><font = face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1></font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1>Cheers,</font></font></font><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font = color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D+1></font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial,Helvetica"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D+1>Bud-by-the-Beach</font></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------B9A5FBF8B761045189646241--    
(back) Subject: RE: leather (pace, Don Pearson) (grin) From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:08:21 -0500   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C188D1.49E48520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   That was my recollection. I was wondering why all this talk of = releathering. I sounded like a regular thing which it ain't. Oh, I can't answer your question. Sorry. I don't know all that much about this. Only what I've = read. Cause I ain't climbed into one in over 30 years! -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:02 PM To: PipeChat Subject: leather (pace, Don Pearson) (grin)       "COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote:     Which makes me ask, how often must releathering be done?   Every 15-100 years, depending on the kind of action and the quality of the leather in the first place and the acid content of the air.     Does it depend on whether or not an organ is used more often? I know = weather is a factor but lets say in whatever climate leaving the weather factor = out would an organ which is played more or less require more frequent releathering?     More is better than less ... keeps the leather supple. Thanks,Robert I would love to climb into an organ.     Moving right along (grin) ...     Now, *I* have a question:     I've never heard of applying any kind of treatment (oil, etc.) to EXPOSED leather in an organ ... is it already treated? Or is there another reason for not doing it? Seems to me that the exposed leather in most old organs = of my experience failed because it was dry and cracked, aside from folds of bellows simply wearing OUT.     OTOH, I've opened pallet-boxes of hundred-year-old trackers and found that leather to be in PERFECT condition.     Cheers,     Bud-by-the-Beach     ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C188D1.49E48520 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D419120521-19122001>That was my recollection. I was = wondering why all this talk of releathering. I sounded like a regular thing which it =   ain't. Oh, I can't answer your question. Sorry. I don't know all that much = about this. Only what I've read.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D419120521-19122001><FONT size=3D6>Cause I ain't climbed = into one in over 30 years!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 19, = 2001 4:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> PipeChat<BR><B>Subject:</B> leather (pace, Don Pearson) (grin)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>&nbsp; <P>"COLASACCO, ROBERT" wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D814460720-19122001><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT color=3D#800000>Which makes me ask, how often must =   releathering be done?</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT color=3D#800000></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT = size=3D+1>Every 15-100 years, depending on the kind of action and the quality of the leather in = the first place and the acid content of the air.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT color=3D#800000></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT color=3D#800000>Does it depend on whether = or not an organ is used more often? I know weather is a factor but lets say in = whatever climate leaving the weather factor out would an organ which is played = more or less require more frequent releathering?</FONT></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT color=3D#800000></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT = size=3D+1>More is better than less ... keeps the leather supple.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT color=3D#800000></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D814460720-19122001><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT color=3D#800000>Thanks,</FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN = class=3D814460720-19122001><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT = color=3D#800000>Robert&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D814460720-19122001><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT color=3D#800000>I = would love to climb into an organ.</FONT></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=3DGaramond><FONT color=3D#800000></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT = size=3D+1>Moving right along (grin) ...</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D+1></FONT></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT = size=3D+1>Now, *I* have a question:</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D+1></FONT></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT = size=3D+1>I've never heard of applying any kind of treatment (oil, etc.) to EXPOSED leather = in an organ&nbsp; ... is it already treated? Or is there another reason for = not doing it? Seems to me that the exposed leather in most old organs of my experience failed because it was dry and cracked, aside from folds of = bellows simply wearing OUT.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT = face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D+1></FONT></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT = size=3D+1>OTOH, I've opened pallet-boxes of hundred-year-old trackers and found that leather = to be in PERFECT condition.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT = face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D+1></FONT></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D+1>Cheers,</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT =   color=3D#000000><FONT size=3D+1></FONT></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica><FONT color=3D#000000><FONT = size=3D+1>Bud-by-the-Beach</FONT></FONT></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HT= ML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C188D1.49E48520--