PipeChat Digest #2601 - Wednesday, December 26, 2001
 
Brook - organ builder
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
Re: hi
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Cornopeans
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Christmas Eve - Trinity, Stamford, CT
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
RE: The Postlude
  by "Alan Freed" <parishadmin@stlukesnyc.org>
Re: Christmas Eve - Trinity, Stamford, CT
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Driving thru Pennsylvania at midnight is a surreal experience
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
AGO Philadelphia 2002
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
How to Eat Goose Liver
  by "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu>
Re: hi - confused
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
RE: hi - confused
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
oh, for a Customary!
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: hi
  by "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Re: Driving thru Pennsylvania at midnight is a surreal experience
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Please Read [WAS: Re: hi - confused]
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Amplification
  by "Paul Austin" <paul-austin@ntlworld.com>
Re: Now WAY OT: odd dial phones (was: Grace Cathedral)
  by "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com>
Re: Amplification
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Brook - organ builder From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:16:58 EST   Does anyone know anything about an organ builder named Brook? There is an = organ in a small church in Neponset part of Boston) with this builder's = name, apparently from the 1800s. I have not seen the organ yet. Merry Foxworth  
(back) Subject: Re: hi From: <Posthorn8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:44:19 EST   Here is My reply form Rochester, NY Tim Schramm  
(back) Subject: Cornopeans From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 07:00:04 -0800   I was interested in the discussion on the Cornopean, and did a bit of research into West Australian organs, several of which have a Cornopean (always on the swell as the chorus reed). The Cormopean was included in organs by: BISHOP AND SON (UK) (2 but one was added in 1958 by Gunstar (Australia) using pipes from Holland. The Dutch pipes were much more fiery than the English and Australian Cornopeans which tended to be smoother and trumpet-like in sound.) WHITEHOUSE (Brisbane Australia) FULLER (Victoria Australia) This was a small organ of only a few stops with the Cornopean the only reed. JW WALKER (UK): Classic voicing 1960s in the University of West Australia.   Organs by NORMAN AND BEARD (UK), JE DODD and SON, used a Horn in all their swell organs with a chorus reed, always the second reed, the Oboe being the first preference if only one.   Most of the modern organs used a Trumpet, or Trompete on the swell as chorus reed. 9GUNSTAR - AUST., MOSER (Munich) used an English Horn (sic), HUFNER (West Australia) used a Trumpet or a Horn (from Rogers of the UK.)   Nearly all the 19th Century organs (Most from the UK) used an Oboe as the first preference on the swell. This included JE DODD (Aust), CLIFTON (West Aust), WL ROBERTS (Aust), PEASE (UK). And please keep in mind that there are only about 105 pipe organs in the whole of this vast state (area one million square miles, population 1.8 million). There is a lot of space between towns and churches and a lot more space between pipe organs..   The picture in the other states of Australia could be very different. I have not in my possession stop lists of the organs in the other states. I have played some but cannot remember what the swell reeds were. Bob Elms.  
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Eve - Trinity, Stamford, CT From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:42:06 -0600   I was interested to see that you began your service with the Palestrina/Willcocks "Matin Responsory". We did the same thing at St. = Mark's, St. Louis. IMHO it makes a pleasant change from the traditional King's = College thing of starting with with "Once in royal David's city", and as we had = already used it on Advent Sunday it didn't take too much practising. We sang the = "Matin Responsory" on the west gallery and then processed down to the front of = the church singing "Of the Father's love begotten."   John Speller, St. Mark's Church (Episcopal), St. Louis.      
(back) Subject: RE: The Postlude From: "Alan Freed" <parishadmin@stlukesnyc.org> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:43:40 -0500   -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Potter [mailto:swell_shades@yahoo.com]=20 Subject: The Postlude   I am reminded of a story about a minister in a tiny country church who came to church and found only one old bib-overalled farmer sitting there, and noone else. He celebrated the service as usual, but when he came to the sermon, he asked the farmer if he should preach his sermon for just him. The old farmer said: "Well the way I see it, if I went out to the barn to feed the cows and there was just one there, I think I'd feed it." The minister was humbled by this great insight and proceeded to preach his very long prepared sermon. Afterwards, the farmer said to him: "You know I said if I went out to the barn and there was just one cow there I'd feed it? Well I don't think I'd give her the whole dang load!" =20   Kenneth, you know how it is when you have told a story a thousand times, until you think it's "your" story? And then, when someone else tells it, they change a few of the details one way or another? Your story about the cow is MY story. Told it a million times. And YOU, sir, tell it EXACTLY the way I've always told it. You've made history today.   Neighbor Bronxite: Alan Freed, Kingsbridge Heights Saint Luke's Church, Restaurant Row, Mahattan   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Kenneth Potter, Organist/Director of Music St. Peter's Episcopal Church, Westchester Square, Bronx, NY 845/358-2528 <swell_shades@yahoo.com>,=20 Austin Op. 2097 at: http://www.nycago.org/Organs/html/StPetersEpBronx.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D    
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Eve - Trinity, Stamford, CT From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:17:13 -0500   Hi John,   Things at Trinity are done "by the book," which is the rector's carefully organized liturgical customary that basically keeps certain things the = same year after year. I don't find this a burden, but rather a comfort, which = is, I think, the feeling of the congregation. They expect to hear certain = things on Christmas Eve, and the Responsory is one of them. It is not that our congregation owns and listens to recordings from Kings, Johns, or anywhere else, but rather that things have been this way for years, and have become hallowed! This all applies to the hymns as well - always the same, year in and year out, and his exhaustive study has found the most perfect textual matches for every aspect of the liturgy. I did manage one sea change. I = have always dearly loved the Willan Missa Sancta Maria Magdalena, and have = felt, in these Rite II days, a great sense of loss about the obsolescence of = this music. I managed to convince the rector that this was wonderful music of happy memory to most of the parish, and it would be great to bring it back for the Great Feast. He agreed, it turned out to be true, and the Rite 1 words (just for the Gloria) in the midst of II country don't seem jarring = to anyone. There were a few serious lacunae in the hymn repertoire as well, = and I did manage to patch one up: Love Unknown, of John Ireland, which we now sing every Palm Sunday.   I sent a picture of our beatifically smiling and heavily vested rector to = a couple of listmembers who suffer under cheerless priests. I took the = picture after the occurrence of our amazing Christmas miracle. During the = children's Mass at 5:30, suddenly a halo appeared over the rector's head, and = remained there long enough for me to snap a picture during the chaos that ensued. = The halo left as suddenly as it appeared, toward the end of Mass. A hurried = post church vestry meeting deliberated about an enlargement of our parking lot and the setting up of concessions for food and religious merchandise, in anticipation of the many pilgrims who will be now visiting us. I am = sending you the picture in a separate letter, although I know that YOU do not = suffer under a cheerless priest! I will be glad to oblige other listmembers who want a picture of a smiling rector with a halo!   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler, at the just renamed National Shrine of the Miraculous Halo!   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Christmas Eve - Trinity, Stamford, CT     > I was interested to see that you began your service with the > Palestrina/Willcocks "Matin Responsory". We did the same thing at St. Mark's, > St. Louis. IMHO it makes a pleasant change from the traditional King's College > thing of starting with with "Once in royal David's city", and as we had already > used it on Advent Sunday it didn't take too much practising. We sang = the "Matin > Responsory" on the west gallery and then processed down to the front of the > church singing "Of the Father's love begotten." > > John Speller, > St. Mark's Church (Episcopal), St. Louis.        
(back) Subject: Driving thru Pennsylvania at midnight is a surreal experience From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:41:59 EST   "Driving thru Pennsylvania at midnight is a surreal experience. Best to all, JBH"   reminds me of the "party buses" for vacations from Oberlin to NY and back = in the 60s, leaving at 6 p.m. and arriving at 6 a.m. it was anything but = a party!!! these were the days before Interstate 80. seven tunnels on = the PA turnpike through the alleghenies, and when you came out the other = end, the weather was totally different than when you went in!!! stopping = at every grungy little rest stop every 2 hours all night. way to go!!! = NOT merry    
(back) Subject: AGO Philadelphia 2002 From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:51:25 EST   Anyone going to AGO Philadelphia 2002? I am looking for a female roommate = or roommates to share a room. Merry Foxworth 877 865-1703  
(back) Subject: How to Eat Goose Liver From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonahall@indiana.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:18:02 -0500   Hi--   Sorry--I can't resist--I am still thinking of those eggnog recipes. I = made a pate' yesterday from goose liver and it turned out really well, and I thought I'd share my new recipe for Boxing Day.   The goose's liver is a lovely yellowish-brown, almost golden--impossible = to miss. It is good-sized--fits into a large handful.   Melt some of the bird's fat in a pan and put in the liver (it shouldn't still be attached to the gall bladder, but anything not uniform and golden ought to be cut off first).   As the liver cooks it darkens. I broke it up with a fork, and then = whipped it as it cooked, till it was all broken into tiny pieces and looked like dirty brown oatmeal. A food processor might make this easier--mine's packed still.   I added a quarter of a teaspoon of vanilla--this flavors it strongly; = don't overdo. I also added a bit of nutmeg and some black pepper.   When it was cooled down, I folded in two Tbsp of mayonnaise, put it in a bowl, sprinkled with paprika, and chilled. Served it on toast points. Leftovers today have been scrumptious: goose reheated in its own fat, served with stewed cherries and some cold pate' on the side.   Of course, many variations are possible! Try not to obscure the sweet richness of the organ meat, though!   As far as the *pipe* organ is concerned (as opposed to the glandular = organ) all went very well at church.   Joyeux Boxing Day!   Jon NYC      
(back) Subject: Re: hi - confused From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:35:51 -0600   Why are we all replying?? Who are we replying to? Did I miss something?   Margo   Posthorn8@aol.com wrote:   > Here is My reply form Rochester, NY > Tim Schramm > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: hi - confused From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:26:20 -0500     Who are you?   -----Original Message----- From: Margo Dillard [mailto:dillardm@airmail.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 1:36 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: hi - confused     Why are we all replying?? Who are we replying to? Did I miss something?   Margo   Posthorn8@aol.com wrote:   > Here is My reply form Rochester, NY > Tim Schramm > > "  
(back) Subject: oh, for a Customary! From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 10:44:21 -0800   The guiding liturgical principle at St. Matthew's: "If you don't like it, wait five minutes and The Rector will change it." And this in a "traditionalist" 1928 Prayer-Book parish.   After four years of building up the choir and the High Mass, and accumulating BUCKETS of arrangements and compositions -- those of you on my music download list have only seen the tip of the iceberg ... there are BOUND VOLUMES of it in the choir room -- the Rector suddenly went "youth-crazy" ... out the window went the High Mass ... Sunday School, instead of being held between Masses, was put DURING the 9 o'clock "Family Service" , so the choir, having children and grandchildren, moved to the Family Service, leaving me to sing the High Mass alone over a MICROPHONE (!) ... actually I give the congregation the Propers, pointed to Tone 8, and they sing along ... all 20 of them.   Christmas Eve was a Prayer-Book communion service, with Willan and familiar carols (and the Stainer, of course). Actually, it was a good thing ... we had 200 jammed into a chapel seating 100.   If he revises the HOLY WEEK services, I'll STRANGLE him ... those were ALL printed and bound two years ago, after singing them from handwritten manuscripts for two years.   Ah, well ... it will doubtless change again the first of the year, and CERTAINLY when we move into the new building in June or so.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: hi From: "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:23:29 -0500   Happy New Year   Gary Black wrote:   > HI Folks, I am refiguring my computer and so would you please reply > with an e-mail back to me so that I can keep you in my address book. > Happy Holidays and thanks. Gary Black > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Driving thru Pennsylvania at midnight is a surreal experience From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:32:46 -0500   ----- Original Message ----- From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:41 PM Subject: Driving thru Pennsylvania at midnight is a surreal experience     > reminds me of the "party buses" for vacations from Oberlin to NY and = back in the 60s, leaving at 6 p.m. and arriving at 6 a.m. it was anything but = a party!!! these were the days before Interstate 80. seven tunnels on the = PA turnpike through the alleghenies, and when you came out the other end, the weather was totally different than when you went in!!! stopping at every grungy little rest stop every 2 hours all night. way to go!!! NOT > merry > In my Oberlin days (the 50s!!), there was a party TRAIN, on the old Erie Lackawanna Railroad, ("The route of the Phoebe Snow - the smoothest = roadbed in the East"). It too was an all night affair, leaving us off at the ferry dock in Hoboken at something like 7 a.m., where we took the boat to Manhattan and points beyond. I guess we were taken by bus to Cleveland to pick the thing up - I am not sure. There was space, and there were lots of people in each car, so it was a party for much of the way, with people dropping off as the a.m. hours advanced. I recall being really groggy on that ferry ride across the Hudson, followed by an hour on the train. I WAS young and resilient!   Cheers,   Malcolm      
(back) Subject: Please Read [WAS: Re: hi - confused] From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:32:24 -0600   >Why are we all replying?? Who are we replying to? Did I miss something? > >Margo   No Margo - you didn't miss anything. Someone sent an email to this list along with other lists and to personal friends saying he had just reconfigured his email and was sending out this message as a test. He asked that people reply to make sure he had the right addresses entered.   But I think at this point he has had enough replies to let him know that he has the right address for PipeChat - so please, NO ONE ELSE Reply!   Messages such as his tend to create lots of traffic that is completely un-necessary - so lets quit the extra taffic on this.   Thanks and Happy PipeChatting   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Amplification From: "Paul Austin" <paul-austin@ntlworld.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 23:41:14 +0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0007_01C18E66.CE84C2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear List,   I am ( and have been for the past 11 years) Organist at an average size = =3D parish church in the North East of England (web address below). The =3D church has recently invested in a state of the art amplification system, = =3D but unfortunately the organ wasn't amplified. In between the =3D congregation and the organ / choir area we have the main tower of the =3D 1000 year old building. Most of the sound produced by the organ and the = =3D choir goes up the tower before it reaches the congregation, which =3D results in the choir singing at one speed and the congregation at =3D another, purely because they can't here me!. Throughout the Christmas =3D services, this problem has been 'amplified' by the fact we have had huge = =3D congregations. I have brought this problem to the attention of the PCC = =3D (Parochial Church Council) who have asked me to look into what systems =3D are available to amplify a pipe organ. Can anybody point me in the =3D right direction?   Many thanks in advance.   Paul. paul-austin@ntlworld.com or paul_austin75@hotmail.com http://www.stmarysnorton.org.uk   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0007_01C18E66.CE84C2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Dear List,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>I am ( and have been for the past 11 years) Organist = =3D at an=3D20 average size parish church in the North East of England (web address=3D20 below).&nbsp; The church has recently invested in a state of the art=3D20 amplification system, but unfortunately the organ wasn't =3D amplified.&nbsp; In=3D20 between the congregation and the organ / choir&nbsp;area we have the =3D main tower=3D20 of the 1000 year old building.&nbsp; Most of the sound produced by the =3D organ and=3D20 the choir goes up the tower before it reaches the congregation, which =3D results in=3D20 the choir singing at one speed and the congregation at another, purely =3D because=3D20 they can't here me!.&nbsp; Throughout the Christmas services, this =3D problem has=3D20 been 'amplified' by the fact we have had huge congregations.&nbsp; I =3D have=3D20 brought this problem to the attention of the PCC (Parochial Church =3D Council) who=3D20 have asked me to look into what systems are available to amplify a = pipe=3D20 organ.&nbsp; Can anybody point me in the right direction?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Many thanks in advance.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Paul.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:paul-austin@ntlworld.com">paul-austin@ntlworld.com</A> or = =3D <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:paul_austin75@hotmail.com">paul_austin75@hotmail.com</A><B= =3D R><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.stmarysnorton.org.uk">http://www.stmarysnorton.org.uk<= =3D /A></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0007_01C18E66.CE84C2A0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Now WAY OT: odd dial phones (was: Grace Cathedral) From: "David Carter" <david_n_carter@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 23:55:32   In the data entry profession, the telephone layout (123 on the top) is = also known as "reverse 10-key," most commonly found on (now) ancient keypunch machines.   David Carter In Sacramento, near the confluence of the Sacramento & American rivers.     >From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Re: Now WAY OT: odd dial phones (was: Grace Cathedral) >Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:33:08 -0600 > > > >"Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" wrote: > > > The numeric pad on your computer is a match to a calculators' keypad. > > > > Telephone Computer/calculator > > 123 789 > > 456 456 > > 789 123 > > 0 0 > > > > I think the differences between the telephone keypad and the = calculator > > keypad has more to do with patent law and avoiding violations of such. > >As I understand it, patent law has little to do with layout, and in any >case, >patents are for a non-renewable period of 17 years, so that even if there =   >is >some way for layout to be patented, the patent on the adding machine (and =   >at >that time, that is what they were called; calculators as we know it = priced >to >accommodate the general public are only about 30 years old) layout would >have >expired by the time the push button telephone was invented. I'm guessing =   >that >Western Electric arranged the numbers as such because on the telephone = dial >in >the U.S., 0 was the bottom most number, and 1 at the top, and although = the >telephone dial was set up to operate in a clockwise fashion, I suspect = that >focus groups, or whatever they were called at the time, showed that = average >people would prefer a right to left, rather left to right, numbering >scheme.... > >ns > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >         _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx    
(back) Subject: Re: Amplification From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:11:49 -0800     --------------5EB20A2E53AC1A036AB56FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   You don't say what kind of ACTION the organ has ... if tracker, there's not much to be done ... PERHAPS electrical key-contacts could be inserted underneath the keyboard(s) without disturbing the action ... European trackers often have electrical consoles as well. Then you could have a modest nave organ in the west end so that the congregation would stay with the choir when they sing together ... something like   NAVE   8' Chimney Flute 4' Principal   or, depending on the size of the church, one or more of the following as well:   8' Open Diapason 2' Fifteenth 1 1/3 Mixture IV   It would be virtually IMPOSSIBLE to amplify ANY pipe organ and have it sound like anything. They tried that at Severance Hall in Cleveland, Ohio, where the mighty Skinner was entombed behind a solid wall for many years. They tried miking it and playing it through speakers, but the experiment was quickly abandoned.   Cheers,   Bud   I suppose because of the historic nature of the church it's not possible to put a ceiling in the tower and close it off.   Paul Austin wrote:   > Dear List, I am ( and have been for the past 11 years) Organist at an > average size parish church in the North East of England (web address > below). The church has recently invested in a state of the art > amplification system, but unfortunately the organ wasn't amplified. > In between the congregation and the organ / choir area we have the > main tower of the 1000 year old building. Most of the sound produced > by the organ and the choir goes up the tower before it reaches the > congregation, which results in the choir singing at one speed and the > congregation at another, purely because they can't here me!. > Throughout the Christmas services, this problem has been 'amplified' > by the fact we have had huge congregations. I have brought this > problem to the attention of the PCC (Parochial Church Council) who > have asked me to look into what systems are available to amplify a > pipe organ. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Many thanks > in advance. Paul.paul-austin@ntlworld.com or paul_austin75@hotmail.com > > http://www.stmarysnorton.org.uk   --------------5EB20A2E53AC1A036AB56FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> You don't say what kind of ACTION the organ has ... if tracker, there's not much to be done ... PERHAPS electrical key-contacts could be inserted underneath the keyboard(s) without disturbing the action ... European = trackers often have electrical consoles as well. Then you could have a modest nave organ in the west end so that the congregation would stay with the choir when they sing together ... something like <p>NAVE <p>8' Chimney Flute <br>4' Principal <p>or, depending on the size of the church, one or more of the following as well: <p>8' Open Diapason <br>2' Fifteenth <br>1 1/3 Mixture IV <p>It would be virtually IMPOSSIBLE to amplify ANY pipe organ and have it sound like anything. They tried that at Severance Hall in Cleveland, Ohio, where the mighty Skinner was entombed behind a solid wall for many years. They tried miking it and playing it through speakers, but the = experiment was quickly abandoned. <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <p>I suppose because of the historic nature of the church it's not = possible to put a ceiling in the tower and close it off. <p>Paul Austin wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><style></style> <font size=3D-1>Dear List,</font>&nbsp;<font size=3D-1>I am ( and have been for the past 11 years) Organist at an average size = parish church in the North East of England (web address below).&nbsp; The church has recently invested in a state of the art amplification system, but = unfortunately the organ wasn't amplified.&nbsp; In between the congregation and the = organ / choir area we have the main tower of the 1000 year old building.&nbsp; Most of the sound produced by the organ and the choir goes up the tower before it reaches the congregation, which results in the choir singing at one speed and the congregation at another, purely because they can't here me!.&nbsp; Throughout the Christmas services, this problem has been 'amplified' by the fact we have had huge congregations.&nbsp; I have = brought this problem to the attention of the PCC (Parochial Church Council) who have asked me to look into what systems are available to amplify a pipe organ.&nbsp; Can anybody point me in the right = direction?</font>&nbsp;<font size=3D-1>Many thanks in advance.</font>&nbsp;<font size=3D-1>Paul.</font><font = size=3D-1><a = href=3D"mailto:paul-austin@ntlworld.com">paul-austin@ntlworld.com</a> or <a = href=3D"mailto:paul_austin75@hotmail.com">paul_austin75@hotmail.com</a></fo= nt> <br><font size=3D-1><a = href=3D"http://www.stmarysnorton.org.uk">http://www.stmarysnorton.org.uk</a= ></font></blockquote>   </body> </html>   --------------5EB20A2E53AC1A036AB56FE0--