PipeChat Digest #2613 - Monday, December 31, 2001
 
Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions
  by "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@bayou.com>
Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral additia
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Used Pipe Organs
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Bol=E9ros and other Pipedreams
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
reeds staying in tune
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
shifting organs
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:34:41 -0800   Somebody who has Sumner at hand, please look it up ... I'm almost certain it's in there.   Cheers,   Bud   youngstown fireapp wrote:   > There were also the Corona,Echo and I believe Central Space > divisions...Steve Bournias...Warren, Ohio > > >From: quilisma@socal.rr.com > >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > >To: pipechat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > >Subject: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions > >Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:03:08 -0800 > > > >I don't have my books at hand, but there were at least two ... one > >division was completed in the Willis factory, but was destroyed by > >German bombers before it could be installed in the cathedral ... if my > >fading memory serves, that WAS to go in the West end of the cathedral > >... or perhaps it was a division for the northwest quarter-gallery in > >the tower ... I can't find anything on the website that gives the > >planned-for divisions ... perhaps someone else can. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Bud > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > w > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions From: "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@bayou.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:44:58 -0600   Sumner has these sections listed as being under construction in 1939 ... The Corona Section ws completed at the factory in 1940... all were destroyed in 1941 at the London factory .... West End Great, West End Swell, West End Bombarde, West End Pedal ... Central Space Choir, Central Space Swell, Central Space Pedal .... Corona Organ, Corona Pedal .... Sumner seems to state that the Central Space Section was completed and installed.   Sand Lawn        
(back) Subject: Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:28:55 -0500   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@bayou.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions     > Sumner has these sections listed as being under construction in 1939 ... > The Corona Section ws completed at the factory in 1940... all were > destroyed in 1941 at the London factory .... West End Great, West End > Swell, West End Bombarde, West End Pedal ... Central Space Choir, = Central > Space Swell, Central Space Pedal .... Corona Organ, Corona Pedal .... > Sumner seems to state that the Central Space Section was completed and > installed. > > Sand Lawn >   That loss is absolutely chilling! What a horror!   I have a wonderful videotape of a rather magnificent service at Liverpool, commemorating a major anniversary of the Guide Dog Association, 50 I think it would have been. David Liddle (who is blind) was at (or should I say = in) the downstairs console, which is about as big as our church, his dog lying quietly nearby. In attendance, in addition to a church full of people, = were 1,100 Guide Dogs. There were occasional yips, perhaps when someone stepped on some part of a dog accidentally. The Cathedral Choir sang, and Ian = Tracey had them do a rather wonderful thing. So that all in attendance could get some sense of the immensity of the space, he had the choir sing the = various anthems and parts of the liturgy moving at intervals to the four corners = of the building. There was no procession made out of it. They just quietly moved to each "station." I have not looked at this film in quite a while, but recall that the blind preacher really was spellbinding, the hymns were wonderfully germane as were the anthems. I think David played music by = blind composers, certainly Hollins for starters. (He has a wonderful Priory recording of Hollins' music at Hull, where Hollins grew up.)   Remember to write 2002 on your checks starting Tuesday!   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler      
(back) Subject: Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:30:57 -0600   youngstown fireapp wrote:   > There were also the Corona,Echo and I believe Central Space > divisions...Steve Bournias...Warren, Ohio   W. L. Sumner gave the stop lists of some of these ptrepared-for sections. The prepared-for Echo division was part of the original scheme and was to be:   Echo Pedal (3.1/2" wind):   16' Salicional 16' Echo Bass 8' Fugara 16' Dulzian (7" wind)   Echo Manual (3.1/2" wind):   16' Quintaton 8' Echo Diapason 8' Cor de Nuit 8' Carillon (chimes, 49 notes) 8' Flauto Amabile 8' Muted Viole 8' Aeoline Celeste (FF) 4' Celestina 4' Fern Flute 2.2/3' Rohr Nasat 2' Flautina III Rks. Hasrmonica Aetheria (10-12-15) 16' Chalumeau (7" wind) 8' Trompette (7" wind) 8' Cor Harmonique (7" wind) 8' Musette 8' Hautbois d' Amour 8' Voix Humaine 4' Hautbois Octaviante   The West End, Central Space and Corona divisions were prepared-for at the new console of 1940:   WEST END ORGAN   Great   16' Lieblich Bourdon 8' Major Diapason 8' Minor Diapason 8' Flute Ouverte 8' Pianissimo 4' Octave 4' Principal II Rks. Quartane (12-15) III Rks. Misture (17-19-22)   Swell:   8' Open Diapason 8' Flute a Cheminee 8' Aeoline 8' Voix Celestes 4' Gemshorn III Rks. Cornet (12-15-17) IV Rks. Ripieno (12-15-19-22) 16' Double Horn 8' Trumpet 8' Flugel Horn 4' Clarion   Bombarde:   8' Trompette Militaire   Pedal:   32' Resultant 16' Open Diapason (metal) 16' Major Bourdon 16' Lieblich Bourdon (Great) 8' Octave Diapason (ext.) 8' Bass Flute (ext.) III Rks. Cornet (12-15-17) 16' Trombone 16' Horn (Swell)   CENTRAL SPACE ORGAN   Choir:   8' Principal 8' Koppel Flute 8' Sylvestrina 4' Spitz Flute 2' Flageolet II Rks. Sesquialtera (12-17)   Swell:   8' Fugara 8' Cor de Nuit 8' Aeolian 4' Ottava 4' Vienna Flute III Rks. Mixture (15-19-22) 8' Posaune   Pedal:   16' Gedackt-Pommer 8' Flute (ext.) 16' Posaune (ext. Swell 8')   CORONA SECTION   Corona Organ (enclosed):   16' Quintaten 8' Flauto Amabile 8' Muted Viole 8' Vox Aetheria (undulating) 4' Celestina 2.2/3' Rohr Nasat 2' Flautino 1.3/5' Tierce 1' Sifflote   Pedal:   16' Quintaten (from manual) 16' Dulzian   The Corona organ looks as if it was a rehash of the Echo division that had been intended to be part of the original scheme.   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:40:37 -0500   At 09:28 PM 30/12/2001 -0500, Sandy Lawn wrote       > > Sumner has these sections listed as being under construction in 1939 = ... > > The Corona Section ws completed at the factory in 1940... all were > > destroyed in 1941 at the London factory .... West End Great, West End > > Swell, West End Bombarde, West End Pedal ... Central Space Choir, = Central > > Space Swell, Central Space Pedal .... Corona Organ, Corona Pedal .... > > Sumner seems to state that the Central Space Section was completed and > > installed. > > There was a pack of new and reprints of 1926 materials prepared for = the 70th. Anniversary Recital given by Prof. Ian Tracey on October 19th. = 1996. Prof. Tracey did an article titled "Seventy years on the Organ of = Liverpool Cathedral". In this he states that there were to have been divisions on =   the Central Galleries, Corona Gallery, North Choir Triforium and Nave Bridge. He goes on to say that only the first three were built but were destoyed by enemy action and the last was only ever projected. End of quote. The Corona Gallery received the Trompette Militaire in , I believe =   1999. I attended a wedding at the Cathedral in late 1998 and it had not been installed as of then.   HD    
(back) Subject: Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral additia From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:15:48 EST   Dear Pipechatters:   Thanks to Rt. Hon. John L. Speller for his reprinting of the Lost = Liverpool Layout.   I had the opportunity to hear the instrument live for the first time when = the Council for the Care of Churches and the British Institute of Organ = Studies held their conference on "The Ethics of the Conservation of Organs." Surprisingly, I was the only American registered there, aside from two Americans who were invited to present papers.   The Cathedral is vast, perfectly executed, and somehow very cold and unmoving, possibly because of its absence of humanizing artwork, and the inability of the average human to relate to it in terms of proportion and scale. Gothic cathedrals were intended to awe and dwarf the average man, = as opposed to Classical architecture, which was based upon the proportions of =   the human body. Despite the spectacle of this immense place, and the = beauty of its crafting, I was somehow unmoved.   The new spun brass Trompette way up in the Crossing tower was used in concert, and I must confess that I am much more partial to my screen = namesake in the main organ, the 50" Tuba Magna. There are other Tubae in the main organ, too, which are round and warm.   There is a spectacular stone bridge that spans the nave, between the = Crossing and the West End, and that is where part of the instrument was to perch; = I assume it would have been a "double-facaded" case in the manner of a screen-mounted instrument. We can only imagine that if plans had gone through, there would have been arguments regarding whether or not the = organ would disrupt the grand vista from portal to altar.   The mobile console, unfortunately, resembles an elegant Willis console stuffed into a large cigar box or shipping crate, its umbillicus trailing = off into oblivion. The exterior is rather bland and industrial, devoid of ornament, and intended to be locked up... not a "show console." It does, however, feature the newest technology, and certainly does its job as responsively as it possibly can. I am not sure if it has the "Willis Infinite Frustration Swell Shoes" or not.   The present cast concrete Metropolitan Roman Catholic Cathedral features = the workshops which are now restoring the humongous wooden model of Sir Edwin Lutyens' grand scheme for the building which was never built. An = appointment to see these shops, as well as a listen to Saint George's Hall's greatly evolved Willis organ, are musts for a visit to Liverpool. Incidentally, = the Walker organ at the Catholic cathedral plays via electropneumatic action, except for the 140' mechanical swell pedal linkage!!!   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: Liverpool Anglican Cathedral prepared-for divisions From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:35:03 EST   Hi Bud   The Organ by Wm Leslie Sumner tells about the lost divisions, or the the never was's! :)   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Used Pipe Organs From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 00:12:18 EST   Happy Eve of New Year's Eve,   Thanks to those who responded to my query about used pipe organs and their =   placement in new venues. My expressed concerns have been partly = validated. It is reasonable to expect an organ to perform acceptably when the first = and second homes are of similar design, acoustic, and cubic volume. When the contrary is the case, caution seems advised which was my original concern.   On a separate topic mentioned today (cold churches), digital reeds were in =   very good tune with the flues, imaginary as both may be. There are some redeeming qualities. Its a cold night with sleet and snow a possibility in central Texas, so = let the flames begin. :))   Best wishes, Jim Pitts    
(back) Subject: Bol=E9ros and other Pipedreams From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 00:17:14 -0500   Happy New Year to All my New Friends, Can it be just a year ago I sent my first Pipechat post? What a remarkable amount and quality of ground I have covered in such a short time thanks to You fine People. My eternal gratitude, sincerely. As I listened to the year ending Pipedreams program tonight, I was amazed at the names I recognized, the instruments I already knew about, and the sense of belonging it gave me. It was quite different from the early 80s when I first began to listen to the program on a regular basis, and knew nothing but the fact I liked the music. An interesting note is that Peterson Electronics has taken up a large enough sponsorship of the program to rate a mention in the credits. Bravo to them for their most worthwhile support. One of the pieces chosen for the program was a Bol=E9ro written by a Frenchman whose name escapes me until I research it at the Pipedreams website, but it was not Cochereau. A year ago, I thought that the only Bol=E9ro was written by Ravel, and that its only purpose was to serenade Bo Derek in the movie "10" and to provide unusual skating music for dance partners Torville and Dean. Are there more Bol=E9ros for organ out there? I would like to hear them all. I really do like rhythmic organ music. I must admit I did not not care for the one Michael played for us nearly as well as Todd Wilson's version of the Cochereau on the Norton Memorial Organ at Severance Hall, which I heard in concert and loved. Jumping disjointedly to another subject, would somebody please describe the construction of a double languid Diapason to me, and perhaps point me to a picture of one on the web, or even share an image you may have on your computer. I would be most grateful indeed.   Cheers Mike    
(back) Subject: reeds staying in tune From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:31:54 -0800   Maybe it's my failing memory, maybe it was the higher wind-pressures, but I don't recall temperature changes being a big problem for older organs ... one in particular: Old St. Mary's RC, Cincinnati, Austin, 1928 ... reeds:   Great - 8 French Trumpet Swell - 8 Oboe, Vox Humana Choir - 8 Bassoon (added, from Cinti Music Hall Organ), Clarinet, English Horn Pedal - 16 Trombone   The organ was against the stone wall of the (unheated) bell-tower; the blower was IN the (unheated!) bell-tower. I don't ever recall not being able to use the reeds in the winter-time, when the temp in the loft was usually around 55 degrees F, OR the summer-time, when temps in the loft EXCEEDED 100 degrees F.   OTOH, I've heard newer organs (what IS that THING in the Episcopal cathedral somewhere in NJ where RSCM Princeton sang Evensong one year? HORRIBLE calliope!) that went out of tune the MINUTE the HVAC came on, winter OR summer.   Anybody have similar experiences? The old organs in Florida stayed pretty much in tune, as well ...   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: shifting organs From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 21:10:56 +1300   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0010_01C1923F.A39AA320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear List, I would agree that it is wise to be careful when shifting organs, not so = =3D much to check the building, but the pipework itself - what is its =3D scaling, material, pressure, etc. Are these appropriate to the new =3D building, the organ's siting, temperature changes, acoustics etc. On the other hand, and I play devil's advocate here a little, some =3D organs are always shiftable. I am thinking specifically of T.C.Lewis. =3D Let me relate a story story. Back in 1865 old St Paul's Cathedral in Wellington, New Zealand, was =3D built. The first organ lasted till 1878 when the T.C.Lewis was =3D installed. It was roughly this GREAT 16 8 8 8 4 4 III 8 SWELL 8 8 8 4 2 = =3D 8 8 PEDAL 16 16. The church was built of wood, with poor acoustics, when = =3D built, seating perhaps 200. By 1878 it had been enlarged to seat c500, =3D with even worse acoustics through the addition of one aisle on the south = =3D (cold) side and two aisles on the north, a crossing and transepts added, = =3D and a longer chancel. The organ was added to in about 1908 and enlarged = =3D to 3 manuals. It was again enlarged, now to over 30 stops, in 1945, with = =3D pneumatic replacing the tracker but the chests remaining. The scheme now = =3D was=3D20 GREAT 8 8 8 8 4 4 III 8 SWELL 16 8 8 8 8 4 4 2 8 8=3D20 CHOIR 16 8 8 8 4 2 8=3D20 PEDAL 32 (der.) 16 16 16 8 8. The organ remained, as at the beginning, a stunning success. In 1964 the chancel and crossing of the new Wellington Cathedral was =3D opened: a building seating 500 officially then but we packed in 800 for = =3D the opening. I had managed to persuade the cathedral authorities and the = =3D Director of Music (I was his Assistant) that the old organ should be =3D transferred across and later enlarged, rather than go ahead with the =3D planned-for new J.W.Walker of 4 manuals and 106+ stops, including 4 real = =3D 32fts. At the opening of the new Cathedral, the Great wasn't yet going =3D at all, but that Swell just given accompanied, quite adequately, the 800 = =3D there. And the organ is in a frightful chamber 42ft square and 22ft =3D deep, off the north chancel wall and with masses of masony blocking the = =3D sound from the crossing and nave. The building is of heavy concrete, the = =3D floor marble, and the roof is 58ft up, giving then 3 seconds =3D reverberation. In the 1970s the Cathedral had about 3 bays added to the = =3D nave and the reverb increased to 5 seconds. The organ was, as promised, = =3D rebuilt, still using the original T.C.Lewis as a basis. The scheme is =3D now something like this (I haven't got my file in front of me) - GREAT 16 8 8 8 8 4 4, 2 2/3, 2 2 IV 8 16 8 4 SWELL 16 8 8 8 8 4 4, 2 2/3, 2, 1 3/5, IV 8 8 16 8 8 4 CHOIR-POSITIVE 16 8 8 8 4 4 2, 1 1/3, 1 II III 16 8 8=3D20 SOLO 8 8 4 2 1 16 8 8 4 8=3D20 PEDAL 32 16 16 16 16 16 8 8 8 4 4 2 IV 32 16 16 8 8 4. The organ was a pronounced success still and records as one of the best = =3D in New Zealand. In the late 1990s the building was completed with the addition of more =3D bays and a vast west end and gallery. The organ has not been touched. =3D The reverb has increased again, now a massive 8.5 secs when the building = =3D is empty if you use the horizontal Trompette coupled to the Great. The =3D cathedral easily seats 1200 and could be jammed with aboiut 1700 or even = =3D 2000 if absolutely essential. The T.C.Lewis remains the core of the instrument with its amazing =3D diapasons on the Great, its magnificent flutes and strings, and its =3D wonderful Great Bass (open wood 16ft) and SubBass (16ft stopt wood). =3D Sadly, no original reeds remain. When the organ is again rebuilt and enlarged, probably in about 4 years = =3D time, there will be a new west end division, but the chancel organ will = =3D remain based on the Lewis, with probably two new chorus Mixtures added, = =3D one to each Great and Swell.   And the moral of all this? As stated, if the pipework is right, it'll =3D fit anywhere. And T.C.Lewis had his scaling, pressure, voicing =3D techniques and mouth measurements right to start with. The Great chorus = =3D is still on the original 3" pressure, like the Swell and its new = reeds.=3D20   So, don't be too scared about shifting, but DO EXAMINE THE PIPEWORK VERY = =3D CLOSELY!!!!!!   Regards, Ross     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0010_01C1923F.A39AA320 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Dear List,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>I would agree that it is wise to be careful when =3D shifting=3D20 organs, not so much to check the building, but the pipework itself - =3D what is its=3D20 scaling, material, pressure, etc. Are these appropriate to the new =3D building, the=3D20 organ's siting, temperature changes, acoustics&nbsp;etc.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>On the other hand, and I play devil's advocate here = =3D a little,=3D20 some organs are always shiftable. I am thinking specifically of =3D T.C.Lewis. Let=3D20 me relate a story story.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Back in 1865 old St Paul's Cathedral in Wellington, = =3D New=3D20 Zealand, was built. The first organ lasted till 1878 when the T.C.Lewis = =3D was=3D20 installed. It was roughly this GREAT 16 8 8 8 4 4 III 8 SWELL 8 8 8 4 2 = =3D 8 8=3D20 PEDAL 16 16. The church was built of wood, with poor acoustics, when =3D built,=3D20 seating perhaps 200. By 1878 it had been enlarged to seat c500, with =3D even worse=3D20 acoustics through the addition of one aisle on the south (cold) side and = =3D two=3D20 aisles on the north, a crossing and transepts added, and a longer =3D chancel. The=3D20 organ was added to in about 1908 and enlarged to 3 manuals. It was again = =3D   enlarged, now to over 30 stops, in 1945, with pneumatic replacing the =3D tracker=3D20 but the chests remaining. The scheme now was </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>GREAT 8 8 8 8 4 4 III 8</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>SWELL 16 8 8 8 8 4 4 2 8 8 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>CHOIR 16 8 8 8 4 2 8 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>PEDAL 32 (der.) 16 16 16 8 8.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>The organ remained, as at the beginning, a = stunning=3D20 success.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>In 1964 the chancel and crossing of the new =3D Wellington=3D20 Cathedral was opened: a building seating 500 officially then but we =3D packed in=3D20 800 for the opening. I had managed to persuade the cathedral authorities = =3D and the=3D20 Director of Music (I was his Assistant) that the old organ should be =3D transferred=3D20 across and later enlarged, rather than go ahead with the planned-for new = =3D   J.W.Walker of 4 manuals and 106+ stops, including 4 real 32fts. At the =3D opening=3D20 of the new Cathedral, the Great wasn't yet going at all, but that Swell = =3D just=3D20 given accompanied, quite adequately, the 800 there. And the organ is in = =3D a=3D20 frightful chamber 42ft square and 22ft deep, off the north chancel wall = =3D and with=3D20 masses of masony blocking the sound from the crossing and nave. The =3D building is=3D20 of heavy concrete, the floor marble, and the roof is 58ft up, giving =3D then 3=3D20 seconds reverberation. In the 1970s the Cathedral had about 3 bays added = =3D to the=3D20 nave and the reverb increased to 5 seconds. The organ was, as promised, = =3D rebuilt,=3D20 still using the original T.C.Lewis as a basis. The scheme is now =3D something like=3D20 this (I haven't got my file in front of me) -</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>GREAT 16 8 8 8 8 4 4, 2 2/3, 2 2 IV 8 16 8 =3D 4</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>SWELL 16 8 8 8 8 4 4, 2 2/3, 2, 1 3/5, IV 8 8 16 8 8 = =3D   4</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>CHOIR-POSITIVE 16 8 8 8 4 4 2, 1 1/3, 1 II III 16 8 = =3D 8=3D20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>SOLO 8 8 4 2 1 16 8 8 4&nbsp;8 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>PEDAL 32 16 16 16 16 16 8 8 8 4 4 2 IV 32 16 16 8 8=3D20 4.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>The organ was a pronounced success still and records = =3D as one of=3D20 the best in New Zealand.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>In the late 1990s the building was completed with = =3D the addition=3D20 of more bays and a vast west end and gallery. The organ has not been =3D touched.=3D20 The reverb has increased again, now a massive 8.5 secs when the building = =3D is=3D20 empty if you use the horizontal Trompette coupled to the Great. The =3D cathedral=3D20 easily seats 1200 and could be jammed with aboiut 1700 or even 2000 = if=3D20 absolutely essential.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>The T.C.Lewis remains the core of the instrument =3D with its=3D20 amazing diapasons on the Great, its magnificent flutes and strings, and = =3D its=3D20 wonderful Great Bass (open wood 16ft) and SubBass (16ft stopt wood). =3D Sadly, no=3D20 original reeds remain.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>When the organ is again rebuilt and enlarged, =3D probably in=3D20 about 4 years time, there will be a new west end division, but the =3D chancel organ=3D20 will remain based on the Lewis, with probably two new chorus Mixtures =3D added, one=3D20 to each Great and Swell.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>And the moral of all this? As stated, if the =3D pipework is=3D20 right, it'll fit anywhere. And T.C.Lewis had his scaling, pressure, =3D voicing=3D20 techniques and mouth measurements&nbsp;right to start with. The Great =3D chorus is=3D20 still on the original 3" pressure, like the Swell and its new reeds.=3D20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>So, don't be too scared about shifting, but DO =3D EXAMINE THE=3D20 PIPEWORK VERY CLOSELY!!!!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Ross</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0010_01C1923F.A39AA320--