PipeChat Digest #1811 - Wednesday, February 7, 2001
 
Re: is there hope?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
RE:  Heretical/Sociopolitical Thoughts
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
audio connection Eminent 2000
  by <henry.kompagnie@hetnet.nl>
EMI and Dupr=E9 "Recollections"
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: is there hope?
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: is there hope?
  by "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com>
Re: Paul Manz 10 books of choral preludes(Augsburg)
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
RE:  St. Olaf's Choir
  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>
Re: Paul Manz 10 books of choral preludes(Augsburg)
  by "Margarete Thomsen" <mthomsen@umich.edu>
The Chicago International Organ Festival 2001 UPDATE: PRE-FESTIVA	L CONCE
  by "Cole Carroll" <CCole@fourthchurch.org>
Re: St. Olaf's Choir
  by "Gary Blevins" <gsblvns@camalott.com>
Re: Paul Manz 10 books of choral preludes(Augsburg)SOLD!
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Mormon Tabernacle Organ
  by "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: is there hope?
  by "edward a mc callum" <edmack2@juno.com>
RE: Mormon Tabernacle Organ
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org>
Lyn Larsen with Orchestra on CD
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Walther "Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend'"
  by "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: is there hope?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Walther "Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend'"
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: is there hope? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 02:01:11 -0800   At 10:54 PM 2/6/2001 -0600, you wrote: >There may be another consideration, here, too, which also comes to bear = on >the Wanamaker organ<snip>Turns out that at the Minneapolis Auditorium, >unless the organ was being used in a >church service, whenever the organ was used, four musicians had to be >called and paid. I would not be surprised to find that similar >arrangements apply in Chicago, and in other similar venues, in addition = to >a requirement that the recitalist hold a union card.<snip>   More anti-labor propaganda. Go tell it to Shrub!   Certainly, when the MU had a lot more clout, and the contract holders = were a WHOLE lot more stupid, this may have been the case, but certainly no longer. However, I DO have my union card, and continue to pay dues...to two unions!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: RE: Heretical/Sociopolitical Thoughts From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 02:04:24 -0800   At 01:02 AM 2/7/2001 -0500, you wrote: >The Baptist General Convention of Texas withheld 6-million dollars in >funding from the Nashville-based SBC this past year which had been >earmarked for SBC seminaries.<snip>   Vengeance is sweet! ...and from Shrub's home state, yet! I love it when a plan comes together....   dB      
(back) Subject: audio connection Eminent 2000 From: <henry.kompagnie@hetnet.nl> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:49:13 +0100   Hi all,   Introduction of myself: Henry Kompagnie, living in the Netherlands, age = 34. Playing: Eminent Grand Theatre 2000. No high skills; but lots of fun.   Does anybody know how to connect the Eminent Grand Theatre 2000 to the line-in of my regular audio set? There is an (old-fashioned) round connector on the back of the organ. I assume this was used to connect it to a leslie system. I do have schematics of the organ, but don't know how to balance the output levels to the normal audio-in levels (and don't want to blow it!). Any help is welcome !   Greetings, Henry Kompagnie. My (small) organ page: http:\\www.geocities.com\kompagnie\organ.html  
(back) Subject: EMI and Dupr=E9 "Recollections" From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:05:09 -0500   Hi, Y'all!   This past Monday night the Fort Lauderdale Chapter of the Guild had its montly meeting with Dr. Ralph Kneeream as the guest speaker. Ralph, as you know, is the translator of the Dupr=E9s book, "Recollections." It was a wonderful evening of information and stories and glimpses into some of the great personalities of the French organ world of the past 40 years. Ralph has known many of these people personally and his collection of photos and original manuscripts is priceless.   I say that to tell you that Belwin has moved the "Recollectoins" permanently out of print. What a pity. But, Dale Tucker, organ editor for Belwin, is very sensitive to our needs and desires as organists, and I'm sure if he individually bombarded Dale with orders for the book, he would probably do a limited run. Remember Belwin's mission is to make money, so there needs to be a substantial number of orders for him to bring the bookk back in print.   Secondly, Ralph brought his EMI lp's of the great French organists of the 30's (I forget the real title). I have one of the cd's, but Jim Gensel said the entire set had been re-issued as cd. True? Anyone know the source for this? Did I overlook something in the catalogue?   Thanks for your help.   I am, in your debt yet once again,   Darryl by the Sea    
(back) Subject: Re: is there hope? From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:23:46 -0500   Listers-   Had I the money, I know of a shuttered theatre in southern Illinois -complete with Barton organ- just waiting for its' doors to open again and the console to rise from the pit. Such a possibility for movies and organ -featured- run by a private enterprise to restore and operate a relic from past years. Such would be an opportunity to further the organ in a public venue. = And no, no video arcades in the lobby!   Rick      
(back) Subject: Re: is there hope? From: "conmara" <conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 07:48:32 -0600   Veague -   How far south in Illinois (refer I70)?   I've heard there is an operating silent movie theatre in El Segundo, CA - run by a Bill Coffman. 'The Old Town Music Hall'.   That theatre could be turned into a valuable tourist attraction. Town fathers usually drool over that sort of thing - and suddenly money is not the problem.   Of course I'm learning that 'shuttered' can mean a variety of things to these complex instruments - just what condition is the organ in?   KenMc   VEAGUE wrote: > > Listers- > > Had I the money, I know of a shuttered theatre in southern > Illinois -complete with Barton organ- just waiting for its' doors to = open > again and the console to rise from the pit. Such a possibility for = movies > and organ -featured- run by a private enterprise to restore and operate = a > relic from past years. > Such would be an opportunity to further the organ in a public venue. = And > no, no video arcades in the lobby! > > Rick > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- KenMc - conmara@grandcanyonhiker.com http://www.grandcanyonhiker.com See our new video - 'Hiking the Grand Canyon - The Corridor Trails'  
(back) Subject: Re: Paul Manz 10 books of choral preludes(Augsburg) From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:25:57 -0400   Ron- I'll bite. Where should I send a check?   Paul Opel     popel@sover.net.   >Dear List: > >I have all 10 books of Paul Manz' works in clean near new condition. >I never play them, and someone can have the lot for $35.00 plus >postage. E-mail me privately and we'll work something out. > >Regards, > >Ron Severin > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: RE: St. Olaf's Choir From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:16:44 EST   Hi List,   Gary Blevins writes:   >Tell me the time for this Sunday concert, PLEEEEZ! I would like to = attend< >also, and for once my schedule will allow!<<   The choir will appear at Meyerson Symphony Hall in Dallas Sunday February = 11th at 8:00pm. Ticket information available at 214-348-9690.   Gary, I hope you enjoy the event as much as I enjoyed the Baylor = University concert last night. These kids are better than excellent.   Jim  
(back) Subject: Re: Paul Manz 10 books of choral preludes(Augsburg) From: "Margarete Thomsen" <mthomsen@umich.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:29:06 -0500   If no one has contacted you, I would love to purchase these.   Margarete Thomsen   mthomsen@umich.edu   --On Wednesday, February 7, 2001 1:56 AM +0000 RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Dear List: > > I have all 10 books of Paul Manz' works in clean near new condition. > I never play them, and someone can have the lot for $35.00 plus > postage. E-mail me privately and we'll work something out. > > Regards, > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org       MARGARETE THOMSEN ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` mthomsen@umich.edu mthomsen-page@umich.edu Computer Systems Consultant http://www.musincplus.com Mac Expert, OS and Communications ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`  
(back) Subject: The Chicago International Organ Festival 2001 UPDATE: PRE-FESTIVA L CONCERT ON 17 FEBRUARY AT 7:30 P.M. From: "Cole Carroll" <CCole@fourthchurch.org> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:34:39 -0600   The Chicago International Organ Festival 2001 The Fourth Presbyterian Church of Chicago 126 East Chestnut Street Chicago, Illinois 60611-2094 312.787.2729, ext. 600 1971 Aeolian Skinner Organ, Opus 1516 4 manuals 126 ranks PARKING IS AVAILABLE AT 900 North Michigan Avenue (access Rush or Walton Street) for all festival concerts (excluding Sunday afternoon) from 5:00 p.m. until 2:00 a.m. at the rate of $6.24. Tickets must be validated in = the narthex, at the reception following each concert, or at the 126 E. = Chestnut St. reception desk.   18 - 20 February 2001 "Self-Portraits: The Composer as Performer" This year's festival will feature international artists performing their = own compositions in concert.   Pre-Festival Concert Saturday, 17 February 7:30 p.m. A freewill offering will be received. Enjoy an evening of organ music as Chicago composers perform their own compositions.   Frank Ferko has lived in Chicago for the past twenty-five years. He = received the Bachelor of Music degree from Valparaiso University in 1972 where his teachers included Richard Wienhorst, Newman Powell and Philip Gehring, and in 1973 the Master of Music degree in music theory (with a minor in organ performance) from Syracuse University where his teachers were Howard Boatwright and Will O. Headlee. He holds a doctorate in music composition from Northwestern University where he studied with Alan Stout. His part of the concert will include the work "Nebulae," commissioned by saxophonist Gail Levinsky and first performed at a concert at Northwestern University = by Ms. Levinsky with organist Leanne Fazio in March 1998. He will be assisted in this concert by Jeremy Ruthrauff, saxophone. (~http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~dahling/ <http://pubweb.nwu.edu/>)   PROGRAM   NEBULAE (for alto saxophone and organ) (1998) Jeremy Ruthrauff, alto saxophone ANGELS (Chaconne for Organ) (1994)   THE HILDEGARD ORGAN CYCLE (1991) X. The End of Time "After the fall of the Antichrist the glory of the Son of = God will be seen to its full extent"   Richard Webster is Organist and Choirmaster of the Parish Church of Saint Luke in Evanston, Illinois, where he directs the Choir of Men and Boys, = the Girls Choir and Schola, and the Saint Luke's Singers, in a active program = of worship, concerts, tours, and recordings. Since 1975 he has been the Music Director of the Bach Week Festival in Evanston. Much sought after as a choral clinician, he has led Royal School of Church Music (RSCM) Training Courses for Boys and Girls across the U.S. and South Africa, and is past President of the Association of Anglican Musicians. Mr. Webster's arrangements of hymns for brass, organ, timpani, choir, and congregation = are widely used-from New York's Cathedral of St. John the Divine to St. Mary's Cathedral in Johannesburg-and were featured by the BBC on their most = recent Christmas broadcast from Manchester, England. Mr. Webster will premier his "Triptych for Transfiguration," a work he composed for this festival. (<http://www.advent-press.com/>) PROGRAM TRIPTYCH FOR TRANSFIGURATION (2001) (premier performance) Richard Webster (b. 1952) Plein jeu: Jesu dulcis memoria Meditation: Wareham Sortie: Tibi, Christe, splendor Patris   PRELUDE ON BRED DINA VIDA VINGAR (1995)   PASCHAL SUITE FOR ORGAN AND TRUMPET (1997) Kevin Hartman, trumpet Passacaglia Pastorale (on a Theme of Palestrina) Paean to the Risen Christ Aaron David Miller is being recognized for his stylish performances of = early music and his imaginative improvisations. In 1996 he won the top prize at the AGO National Improvisation Competition, and in 1998 he earned the Bach and Improvisation prizes at the Calgary International Organ Festival Competition. Dr. Miller has appeared at several Bach festivals, including the prestigious Calgary Bach Festival in June 2000, where he performed on organ and harpsichord. He will also give the opening recital at the Los Angeles Bach Festival in March 2001, and in Fall 2001 he will perform at the Basically Bach Festival at St. Peters Lutheran Church in New York City. Samples of his work, including his improvisatory skills and = interpretations of Bach, are featured on his solo compact disc released in Fall 2000. In addition to performing, Dr. Miller has numerous credentials in = composition. In 1999 his "Concerto for Two Organists" was premiered and recorded by the Zurich Symphony for Ethereal Records. Later this year, a number of = Miller's chorale preludes will be published by Augsburg/Fortress. Several works by Dr. Miller are included in the recently released compact disc recording by the choirs of Fourth Church, O Light, From Age to Age http://www.fourthchurch.org/agetoage.html His performance at the festival will feature "National City Fanfare," = which was commissioned for the appointment of Edward Moore as Music Director at National City Christian Church, Washington, D.C. (~Penny Lorenz Artists Management <http://home.att.net/>) PROGRAM NATIONAL CITY FANFARE (2000) Aaron David Miller (b. 1972)   THREE CHORALE PRELUDES 1. Chorale Prelude in Rustic Style-Aberyswyth (1999) 2. Fantasy on O Waly Waly (2000) 3. Fantasy on St. Clement (2000)   SEQUENCES ON A TRIPLUM OF PHILIPPE DE VITRY (1997)   Sunday, 18 February 3:00 p.m. Dan Locklair (http://www.wfu.edu/~locklair/) Monday, 19 February 7:30 p.m. Jean Guillou (John Gingrich Management, Inc <http://www.gingarts.com/keyboards.htm>) Tuesday, 20 February 7:30 p.m. John Weaver assisted by Marianne Weaver, flute (Karen McFarlane Artists, Inc <http://www.concertorganists.com/>)   Suggested Donations: Individual Concerts: $15 / $12 (students and seniors) All Three Concerts: $35 / $25 (students and seniors)   A reception will follow each concert. Recordings and printed scores by all artists will be available for purchase. To order tickets, contact by e-mail: Wannida Scott, <mailto:wscott@fourthchurch.org> . Visa and Mastercard accepted. PARKING IS AVAILABLE AT 900 North Michigan Avenue (access Rush or Walton Street) for all festival concerts (excluding Sunday afternoon) from 5:00 p.m. until 2:00 a.m. at the rate of $6.24. Tickets must be validated in = the narthex, at the reception following each concert, or at the 126 E. = Chestnut St. reception desk.   Fourth Presbyterian Church Department of Music and Arts John W. W. Sherer, <mailto:jsherer@fourthchurch.org> Organist and Director of Music Mary Theresa Reed, <mailto:mtreed@fourthchurch.org> Director of Children's and Youth Choirs C. Carroll Cole, <mailto:ccole@fourthchurch.org> Arts Administrator Wannida Scott, <mailto:wscott@fourthchurch.org> Administrative Assistant Visit Chicago during Winter Delights for fun, savings, and fabulous organ music! For hotels, check out http://www.winterdelights.com/hotels.html   For discount value cards, check out http://www.winterdelights.com/alloffers.html For maps and transportation, check out http://www.winterdelights.com/transportation.html   C. Carroll Cole Arts Administrator Fourth Presbyterian Church 126 East Chestnut Street Chicago, IL 60611-2094 312.787.2729, ext. 252 facsimile: 312.787.4584 ccole@fourthchurch.org <http://www.fourthchurch.org>      
(back) Subject: Re: St. Olaf's Choir From: "Gary Blevins" <gsblvns@camalott.com> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:41:56 -0600   Thanks, Jim -----Original Message----- From: Wurlibird1@aol.com <Wurlibird1@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:27 AM Subject: RE: St. Olaf's Choir       >The choir will appear at Meyerson Symphony Hall in Dallas Sunday February 11th >at 8:00pm. Ticket information available at 214-348-9690. > >Gary, I hope you enjoy the event as much as I enjoyed the Baylor = University >concert last night. These kids are better than excellent. > >Jim > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Paul Manz 10 books of choral preludes(Augsburg)SOLD! From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:16:55 EST   Hi List:   The books were sold to the first bidder, Greg, Now I wish I had more to = sell! I want to thank all of you for your interest. I hope Greg enjoys his new books.   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Mormon Tabernacle Organ From: "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:12:53 -0500 (EST)     A friend recently visited this wonderful paplce and brought several items to me, including a brochure "Organ Recitals on Temple Square" which states, "..rebuilt and enlarged several times, most recently in 1948 by the Aeolian-Skinner Organ Company."   Is this really the best way to say it? What role did Schoenstein play in this organ? So minor a role as not to be identified? Did the stop-list change to any significant degree? Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Re: is there hope? From: "edward a mc callum" <edmack2@juno.com> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:18:16 -0500   and what has the union done for you lately--?? reminds of a time some 30-35 years ago, when i arrived at the steak house where i was playing the organ.the owner told me that some guy wanted to see me. as it turns out- he was the local union rep. he was there to try why and enlist me in the boston local. he assured me that if i was a union member i would be pulling down $20 a night--!! when i told him i was getting $35 a night he went ballistic--!! i dismissed the idea of joining a union that could gaurantee me a 35-40% reduction in wages-- ( not even counting DUES ) i played for many years in other clubs and bars without any further noise from these people. so i ask again---what have they done for you lately-- ed mc callum melbourne florida PS--no offense BOB, really enjoy your tech and historical expertise--EM     On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 02:01:11 -0800 Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> writes: > At 10:54 PM 2/6/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >There may be another consideration, here, too, which also comes to > bear on > >the Wanamaker organ<snip>Turns out that at the Minneapolis > Auditorium, > >unless the organ was being used in a > >church service, whenever the organ was used, four musicians had to > be > >called and paid. I would not be surprised to find that similar > >arrangements apply in Chicago, and in other similar venues, in > addition to > >a requirement that the recitalist hold a union card.<snip> > > More anti-labor propaganda. Go tell it to Shrub! > > Certainly, when the MU had a lot more clout, and the contract > holders were > a WHOLE lot more stupid, this may have been the case, but certainly > no > longer. However, I DO have my union card, and continue to pay > dues...to > two unions! > > DeserTBoB > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >   ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.  
(back) Subject: RE: Mormon Tabernacle Organ From: "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:38:51 -0800   Schoenstien did considerable tonal finishing to the instrument as well as significant additions, including two contrasting high powered reeds since GDH did not provide a loud solo Trumpet in his design. Casavant also made some minor changes here and there before that.   From what Bethards wrote, they went to great pains to maintain the = integrity of GDH's work. They sould just say "1948 Aeolian Skinner" and leave it at that!   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Karl E. Moyer Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:13 AM To: piporg-l; organchat; pipechat Subject: Mormon Tabernacle Organ       A friend recently visited this wonderful paplce and brought several items to me, including a brochure "Organ Recitals on Temple Square" which states, "..rebuilt and enlarged several times, most recently in 1948 by the Aeolian-Skinner Organ Company."   Is this really the best way to say it? What role did Schoenstein play in this organ? So minor a role as not to be identified? Did the stop-list change to any significant degree? Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Lyn Larsen with Orchestra on CD From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:46:14 -0500   "A Salute to the Swinging Years" is a new CD featuring Lyn Larsen at the Wurlitzer of Plummer Auditorium, Orange County, California, and Jack Bethards conducting a 13-piece orchestra. It is a superb recording of a = live concert given in January 2000. It is near the bottom of the opening page = at http://www.ohscatalog.com   Bill      
(back) Subject: Walther "Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend'" From: "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:24:28 -0500 (EST)     For the first time I'm learning the variations (Partita?) on that *wonderful* chorale "Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend'" by Johann Gottferied Waltcher, Bach's distant relative who was _Kappelmeister_ at the _Stadtkirche_ of St. Peter & St. Paul in Weimar for many7 years, including whil J. S. Bach was court organist at Weimar. It's exciting to think that perhaps the great Bach may have heard Walther play this music in the same church where two of Bach's greatest musical sons were baptized.   My source is Vol. II ofthe late Carl F. Pfatteicher's three-volume set _The Church Organist's Golden Treasury_. I know very little of the style of Waltcher but begin to wonder whether some of the very active pedal passages in this edition were origianlly manual passages. For example, bar 4 of the first variations includes sixteenth notes in bears, 2, 3, and 4 in the pedals and a yet more difficult pedal passage in bars 8 and, the cadence pattern of the variation.   Variation IV has very active pedal passages while the left hand plays the c.f., but I've wondered whether perhaps Walther actually wrote the c.f. for a 4' Choralbass stop or 4' reed stop and placed those active bass-function passages in the left hand.   What is a responsible edition of the Walther works?   Do organists either in America or in Germany play this piece very much? I don't think I've ever heard anyone else play it.   Having visited die Stadtkirche in Weimar last May with its marvelous Lucas Cranich altar-piece and seen but not heard the organ, it's exciting to now learn this music.   Any one know what the organ is like there?   Your help with my questions and any other comments as well would be greatly appreciated. Cordially,    
(back) Subject: Re: is there hope? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 14:33:42 -0800   At 02:18 PM 2/7/2001 -0500, you wrote: >and what has the union done for you lately--?? <snip>   A lot, but it's too complex and too far "o.t." for this place.   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Walther "Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend'" From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 15:47:52 -0800   In general the Church Organist's Golden Treasury is a pretty clean urtext = ... I don't ever recall playing Walther from anything else.   I'd say if P & D put it in the pedal, it's probably supposed to BE in the pedal, since they leave the manualiter variations manualiter in almost all cases.   Certainly there's nothing wrong with reversing the l.h. and pedal in = Variation 4.   In the misc. "Christ lag in Todesbanden" trio in Book VI of the W/S Bach, = I take the c.f. in the alto in the pedal with a 4' stop, and play the l.h. = on 16-8-2 and the r.h. on 8-4-1.   Bach himself reverses the l.h. and pedal in the alternative middle version = of "Nunn komm der Heiden Heiland."   As long as you don't scramble the PITCHES of the various lines, go for it (grin)!   Cheers,   Bud   "Karl E. Moyer" wrote:   > For the first time I'm learning the variations (Partita?) on > that *wonderful* chorale "Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend'" by Johann > Gottferied Waltcher, Bach's distant relative who was _Kappelmeister_ at > the _Stadtkirche_ of St. Peter & St. Paul in Weimar for many7 years, > including whil J. S. Bach was court organist at Weimar. It's exciting > to think that perhaps the great Bach may have heard Walther play this > music in the same church where two of Bach's greatest musical sons were > baptized. > > My source is Vol. II ofthe late Carl F. Pfatteicher's = three-volume > set _The Church Organist's Golden Treasury_. I know very little of the > style of Waltcher but begin to wonder whether some of the very active > pedal passages in this edition were origianlly manual passages. For > example, bar 4 of the first variations includes sixteenth notes in = bears, > 2, 3, and 4 in the pedals and a yet more difficult pedal passage in bars = 8 > and, the cadence pattern of the variation. > > Variation IV has very active pedal passages while the left hand > plays the c.f., but I've wondered whether perhaps Walther actually wrote > the c.f. for a 4' Choralbass stop or 4' reed stop and placed those = active > bass-function passages in the left hand. > > What is a responsible edition of the Walther works? > > Do organists either in America or in Germany play this piece = very > much? I don't think I've ever heard anyone else play it. > > Having visited die Stadtkirche in Weimar last May with its > marvelous Lucas Cranich altar-piece and seen but not heard the organ, = it's > exciting to now learn this music. > > Any one know what the organ is like there? > > Your help with my questions and any other comments as well would > be greatly appreciated. > Cordially, > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org