PipeChat Digest #1739 - Tuesday, January 2, 2001
 
Re: Responsorial Psalms with Organ
  by "Peter Gilmour" <pgilmour@corpcom.co.nz>
Re: Cinema organs (Barton)
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Question (was Responsorial Psalms with Organ)
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: CAD Programs X-post
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Responsorial Psalms
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Responsorial Psalms with Organ
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Cinema organs (Barton)
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: CAD Programs X-post
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: abbreviated music list
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Responsorial Psalms with Organ From: "Peter Gilmour" <pgilmour@corpcom.co.nz> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 13:54:01 +1300   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_009D_01C074C3.76211C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Scott Foppiano expressed interest in psalm settings/composers in =3D different=3D20 parishes around the US and abroad. =3D20 Common Catholic practice here in New Zealand is to use a melodic =3D response (given out initially by organ, then choir/cantor and then =3D repeated by congregation) alternately with verses sung by choir/cantor. = =3D The verses are either through-composed with the response or sung to a =3D psalm tone or chant. Through-composed versions are usually by modern =3D composers (Haugen, Haas, Walker et al), while the chants can be =3D plainchant, Gelineau or by modern composers like Dom Gregory Murray. =3D These verses are related harmonically but not melodically to the =3D congregational response. My own parish uses the latter style =3D predominantly. The verses are usually sung in unison being only =3D occasionally written to be sung in harmony by the choir. =3D20 I'm intrigued by the appearance of Anglican chant in Catholic churches =3D when it has largely died out among Anglican parushes here - with some =3D honourable exceptions of course.   I would like Scott to describe exactly how it works at the Shrine. Is =3D the responsorial verse (presumably unison) the same tune as the choir =3D (harmony) verses?=3D20   I like to hear a choir singing psalm verses SATB but what happens at =3D Masses where a choir is not present? Does a cantor chant the soprano =3D line of the non-congregational verses? =3D20 Scott is dead-right about the possibilities for organists in Anglican =3D chant. The English cathedral organists have turned "word painting" in = =3D psalms into an art form.   New Year greetings to all. =3D20 Peter Gilmour Our Lady Star of the Sea Howick, Auckland New Zealand   -----Original Message----- =3D20 =3D20 =3D20 I am very interested in which settings/composers are used in =3D different=3D20 parishes around our country and abroad (for those in Canada and =3D beyond). A=3D20 mix has been used at the Shrine through the years, most notably =3D Geleneau in=3D20 past decades and more recently the "Lectionary Psalms" of =3D Mich=3DC3=3DA9l Guimont, and=3D20 we have now learned the art of singing Anglican Chant psalms which =3D are very=3D20 adaptable to Roman Catholic Liturgy. =3D20 =3D20 The funny part is that the clergy and congregation are singing = the=3D20 responsorial verse more robustly than they did the Guimont or =3D Geleneau and=3D20 the choir sounds magnificent on them. We also use Plainsong chant =3D during=3D20 Advent and Lent so we do have a variety going. I know that several = =3D of you=3D20 here, as well as my assistant, had turned me on to the Anglican =3D Chant=3D20 psalmody as you used it in your parishes. =3D20 =3D20 It is to the point that several other musicians in our Archdiocese =3D are=3D20 seeking information on sources and training from us on how to use =3D and=3D20 implement this form of Responsorial Psalm in their own parishes. =3D The choir=3D20 has reacted very positively and enthusiastically- I guess they hear = =3D and sense=3D20 how beautiful they sound on them. So much can be done with the =3D organ and=3D20 alternating the verses between men, women, a capella, accompanied =3D etc.=3D20 =3D20 And before the flame war starts, and hopefully it won't, please =3D remember that=3D20 Anglican Chants are a FORM of composition just as Gregorian Chant =3D is. They=3D20 are not specifically sanctioned BY and FOR the Church of England and = =3D are very=3D20 adaptable to the Roman Church. After all- they are not trite or =3D sing-songy=3D20 and they were specifically conceived for choirs and organs in =3D Liturgical=3D20 usage!=3D20 =3D20 But I am curious as to what is being used out there. Thanks and =3D Happy New=3D20 Year to everyone (as we are in process of filing away the Christmas = =3D music and=3D20 already thinking to Lent and Easter! Egads!).=3D20 =3D20 SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music=3D20 THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI=3D20 (Geo. Kilgen & Son Pipe Organ Co., St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, = 1933)=3D20 Staff House Organist, THE FOX THEATRE, Detroit, MI (Wurlitzer, 1928) = =3D   =3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat = dicens,=3D20 fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_009D_01C074C3.76211C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Dutf-8 =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =3D HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML = =3D PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =3D HTML//EN"> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000>Scott Foppiano expressed interest in = psalm=3D20 settings/composers in different <BR>parishes around the US and=3D20 abroad.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000>Common Catholic practice here in New Zealand = =3D is to use=3D20 a melodic response (given out initially by organ, then choir/cantor and = =3D then=3D20 repeated by congregation) alternately with verses sung by =3D choir/cantor.&nbsp;=3D20 The verses are either through-composed with the response or sung to a =3D psalm tone=3D20 or chant. Through-composed versions are usually by modern composers =3D (Haugen,=3D20 Haas, Walker et al), while the chants can be plainchant, Gelineau or by = =3D modern=3D20 composers like Dom Gregory Murray. These verses are related harmonically = =3D but not=3D20 melodically to the congregational response.&nbsp; My own parish uses the = =3D latter=3D20 style predominantly. The verses are usually sung in unison being only=3D20 occasionally written to be sung in harmony by the choir.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I'm intrigued by the appearance of Anglican chant in Catholic =3D churches when=3D20 it has largely died out among Anglican parushes here - with some =3D honourable=3D20 exceptions of course.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I would like Scott to describe exactly how it works at the Shrine. = =3D Is the=3D20 responsorial verse (presumably unison) the same tune as the choir =3D (harmony)=3D20 verses? </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I like to hear a choir singing psalm verses SATB but what happens =3D at Masses=3D20 where a choir is not present?&nbsp; Does a cantor chant the soprano line = =3D of the=3D20 non-congregational verses?</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Scott is dead-right about the possibilities for organists in =3D Anglican=3D20 chant.&nbsp;&nbsp; The English cathedral organists have turned =3D &quot;word=3D20 painting&quot; in psalms into an art form.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000><FONT size=3D3D3>New Year greetings to=3D20 all.</FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3D3></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000><FONT size=3D3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=3D20 size=3D3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000><FONT size=3D3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT =3D size=3D3D3><FONT=3D20 color=3D3D#000000>Peter Gilmour</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000><FONT size=3D3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT =3D size=3D3D3>Our Lady Star=3D20 of the Sea</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3><FONT color=3D3D#000000>Howick, =3D Auckland</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000><FONT size=3D3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT =3D size=3D3D3>New=3D20 Zealand</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = =3D 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><B>-----Original=3D20 Message-----</B><BR><BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT =3D face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT=3D20 color=3D3D#0000a0 face=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" lang=3D3D0 size=3D3D2 = FAMILY =3D3D =3D SCRIPT>I am very=3D20 interested in which settings/composers are used in different =3D <BR>parishes=3D20 around our country and abroad (for those in Canada and =3D beyond).&nbsp; A=3D20 <BR>mix has been used at the Shrine through the years, most notably = =3D Geleneau=3D20 in <BR>past decades and more recently the &quot;Lectionary =3D Psalms&quot; of=3D20 Mich&eacute;l Guimont, and <BR>we have now learned the art of =3D singing=3D20 Anglican Chant psalms which are very <BR>adaptable to Roman Catholic = =3D   Liturgy. &nbsp; <BR><BR>The funny part is that the clergy and =3D congregation=3D20 are singing the <BR>responsorial verse more robustly than they did =3D the=3D20 Guimont or Geleneau and <BR>the choir sounds magnificent on them. =3D &nbsp;We=3D20 also use Plainsong chant during <BR>Advent and Lent so we do have a = =3D variety=3D20 going. &nbsp;I know that several of you <BR>here, as well as my =3D assistant,=3D20 had turned me on to the Anglican Chant <BR>psalmody as you used it =3D in your=3D20 parishes. &nbsp; <BR><BR>It is to the point that several other =3D musicians in=3D20 our Archdiocese are <BR>seeking information on sources and training = =3D from us=3D20 on how to use and <BR>implement this form of Responsorial Psalm in =3D their own=3D20 parishes. &nbsp;The choir <BR>has reacted very positively and=3D20 enthusiastically- I guess they hear and sense <BR>how beautiful they = =3D sound=3D20 on them. &nbsp;So much can be done with the organ and =3D <BR>alternating the=3D20 verses between men, women, a capella, accompanied etc. <BR><BR>And =3D before=3D20 the flame war starts, and hopefully it won't, please remember = that=3D20 <BR>Anglican Chants are a FORM of composition just as Gregorian =3D Chant is.=3D20 &nbsp;They <BR>are not specifically sanctioned BY and FOR the Church = =3D of=3D20 England and are very <BR>adaptable to the Roman Church. &nbsp;After = =3D all-=3D20 they are not trite or sing-songy <BR>and they were specifically =3D conceived=3D20 for choirs and organs in Liturgical <BR>usage! <BR><BR>But I am =3D curious as=3D20 to what is being used out there. &nbsp;Thanks and Happy New <BR>Year = =3D to=3D20 everyone (as we are in process of filing away the Christmas music =3D and=3D20 <BR>already thinking to Lent and Easter! &nbsp;Egads!). =3D <BR><BR><B>SCOTT F.=3D20 FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music <BR>THE =3D NATIONAL=3D20 SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; =3D Son Pipe=3D20 Organ Co., St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR>Staff House Organist, = =3D THE FOX=3D20 THEATRE, Detroit, MI (Wurlitzer, 1928) <BR>&ldquo;Cantantibus =3D organis=3D20 Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens, <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut = =3D non=3D20 confundar.&rdquo;</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_009D_01C074C3.76211C20--    
(back) Subject: Re: Cinema organs (Barton) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 20:27:37 -0500   Marr & Colton used plywood for their magnet boards. Very bad.   Rick      
(back) Subject: Question (was Responsorial Psalms with Organ) From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 20:54:29 EST   All the discussion about Responsorial Psalms brings up a question.   Hymns were not used by the Anglicans until the 19th century, but I believe =   Metrical Psalms were. Were these Metrical Psalms sung as the Psalter at Morning or Evening Prayer or did they have another place in the service? = In other words is there an Anglican tradition of using metrical psalms for = the Psalter? Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: CAD Programs X-post From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 20:17:04 -0600   >I'm looking for a CAD program that is specifically designed for >Organbuilders. I have heard that such a thing exists. The program that I = am >using now is geared for Architecture and it is frustrating to use for = things >like facade design.   Alan   Alan Ontko developed a program called "OrganCADD" which was based on a DOS based CADD program. He is now re-developing it to work under "VectorWorks" I don't know what the status is on the new program. He has some information on his web site which is http://www.OntkoPipeOrgans.com   Hope this helps   David  
(back) Subject: Re: Responsorial Psalms From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 21:23:43 EST     --part1_36.1019b8a6.278295af_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   Since the beginning of the thread regarding Responsorial Psalms with = organ,=3D20 several have asked me about adapting Anglican Chant psalmody to the = Roman=3D20 Catholic Lectionary. This is a wonderful topic which many of us can use = and=3D =3D20 learn from and I am glad to be able to contribute. In response to one=3D20 specific email here is some info I am passing along.=3D20   For example, let's take a 20 tone standard double chant psalm. On = Christmas=3D =3D20 Eve the designated Lectionary psalm response for the Midnight Mass = was=3D20 "Today, today, today is born our Savior, Christ the Lord." Upon = pointing,=3D20 that refrain worked very well with the latter 10 tones of the 20 tone = psalm.=3D =3D20 =3D20   At the beginning, the pedal note (root of the chord) is played and the = choir=3D =3D20 intones the response, the congregation and choir then repeats the refrain. = =3D20 The choir sings trope 1, then all sing the refrain. Choir sings trope = 2,=3D20 then all sing the refrain, the choir sings trope 3, then all sing the=3D20 refrain. Pretty standard actually. Some choirs have a chord played = before=3D20 they intone the response, for some reason I have gotten onto using just = the=3D20 single pedal tone.   Below is a vertical listing of the psalm tone we used for both Christmas = Eve=3D =3D20 Midnight Mass and Christmas Day- it is listed vertically because I can't = do=3D20 it on a computer screen horizontally. Chant tone on left, chord in = middle=3D20 and chant tone note value on right. On the second half (the latter = 10=3D20 tones), the text is included beside the notes. Of course the psalms = are=3D20 chanted in a rather free rhythm, or recitative, NOT as listed below = or=3D20 written whole-half-half-whole etc.   (Chant: Key of Bb Major)   F Bb whole D Bb half C F half Bb gm whole F Bb6 whole G Eb half F Bb6 half Eb cm half Eb F6/4 half D Bb whole   F Bb whole Today, F F6 half To- G C half - - - A F whole day, G Eb whole today is born our=3D20 Eb cm half Sav- D Bb half -ior C Eb half Christ C F half the Bb Bb whole Lord   That's just one example of how we do them here. I didn't mean to = insinuate=3D20 that the congregation sings the entire psalm and responses.   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son Pipe Organ Co., St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) Staff House Organist, THE FOX THEATRE, Detroit, MI (Wurlitzer, 1928) =3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens, fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D   --part1_36.1019b8a6.278295af_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D3D"0">Since the beginning of = the thr=3D ead regarding Responsorial Psalms with organ, <BR>several have asked me = abou=3D t adapting Anglican Chant psalmody to the Roman <BR>Catholic Lectionary. = &nb=3D sp;This is a wonderful topic which many of us can use and <BR>learn from = and=3D I am glad to be able to contribute. In response to one <BR>specific email = h=3D ere is some info I am passing along.=3D20 <BR> <BR>For example, let's take a 20 tone standard double chant psalm. = &nbsp;On=3D20=3D Christmas <BR>Eve the designated Lectionary psalm response for the = Midnight=3D20=3D Mass was <BR>"Today, today, today is born our Savior, Christ the Lord." = &nbs=3D p;Upon pointing, <BR>that refrain worked very well with the latter 10 = tones=3D20=3D of the 20 tone psalm. &nbsp;<BR>&nbsp; <BR> <BR>At the beginning, the pedal note (root of the chord) is played and the c=3D hoir <BR>intones the response, the congregation and choir then repeats the = r=3D efrain. &nbsp;<BR>The choir sings trope 1, then all sing the refrain. = &nbsp;=3D Choir sings trope 2, <BR>then all sing the refrain, the choir sings trope = 3,=3D then all sing the <BR>refrain. &nbsp;Pretty standard actually. &nbsp;Some = c=3D hoirs have a chord played before <BR>they intone the response, for some = reas=3D on I have gotten onto using just the <BR>single pedal tone. <BR> <BR>Below is a vertical listing of the psalm tone we used for both = Christmas=3D Eve <BR>Midnight Mass and Christmas Day- it is listed vertically because = I=3D20=3D can't do <BR>it on a computer screen horizontally. &nbsp;Chant tone on = left,=3D chord in middle <BR>and chant tone note value on right. &nbsp;On the = second=3D half (the latter 10 <BR>tones), the text is included beside the notes. = &nbs=3D p;Of course the psalms are <BR>chanted in a rather free rhythm, or = recitativ=3D e, NOT as listed below or <BR>written whole-half-half-whole etc. <BR> <BR>(Chant: Key of Bb Major) <BR> <BR>F &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bb = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;w=3D hole <BR>D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bb = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;h=3D alf <BR>C &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;F = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=3D bsp;&nbsp;half <BR>Bb &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;gm &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;whole <BR>F &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bb6 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;whole <BR>G &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Eb = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;h=3D alf <BR>F &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bb6 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;half <BR>Eb &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;cm &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;half <BR>Eb &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;F6/4 &nbsp;&nbsp;half <BR>D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bb = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;w=3D hole <BR> <BR>F &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bb = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;w=3D hole &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Today, <BR>F &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;F6 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;h=3D alf &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To- <BR>G &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;C = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=3D bsp;&nbsp;half &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- - - <BR>A &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;F = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=3D bsp;&nbsp;whole &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;day, <BR>G &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Eb = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;w=3D hole &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;today is born our=3D20 <BR>Eb &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;cm &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;half = &nbsp;&=3D nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sav- <BR>D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bb = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;h=3D alf &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-ior <BR>C &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Eb = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;h=3D alf &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Christ <BR>C &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;F = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=3D bsp;&nbsp;half &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the <BR>Bb &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bb &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;whole = &nbsp;=3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lord <BR> <BR>That's just one example of how we do them here. &nbsp;I didn't mean to = i=3D nsinuate <BR>that the congregation sings the entire psalm and responses. <BR> <BR><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music <BR>THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son Pipe Organ Co., St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR>Staff House Organist, THE FOX THEATRE, Detroit, MI (Wurlitzer, 1928) <BR>=3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens, <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non = confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D</FONT></HTML>   --part1_36.1019b8a6.278295af_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Responsorial Psalms with Organ From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 21:41:08 EST     --part1_5a.f2ba1c7.278299c4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   In a message dated 1/1/01 8:02:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,=3D20 pgilmour@corpcom.co.nz writes:     > I like to hear a choir singing psalm verses SATB but what happens at = Masse=3D s=3D20 > where a choir is not present? Does a cantor chant the soprano line of = the=3D =3D20 > non-congregational verses?   The Cantor sings the part of the choir (in unison of course!) =3D3Do)     > Scott is dead-right about the possibilities for organists in Anglican = chan=3D t.=3D20 > The English cathedral organists have turned "word painting" in = psalms=3D20 > .   Well, there is no reason American organists cannot do exactly the = same=3D20 things- especially when the choir is up to the task of singing such = elegant=3D20 Psalmody correctly and the instrument is worthy of accompanying in = the=3D20 "correct" style.   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son Pipe Organ Co., St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) Staff House Organist, THE FOX THEATRE, Detroit, MI (Wurlitzer, 1928) =3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens, fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D     --part1_5a.f2ba1c7.278299c4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated = 1/1/01 8:02=3D :12 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>pgilmour@corpcom.co.nz writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I like to hear a choir = sing=3D ing psalm verses SATB but what happens at Masses <BR>where a choir is not = pr=3D esent? &nbsp;Does a cantor chant the soprano line of the = <BR>non-congregatio=3D nal verses?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FAC=3D E=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>The Cantor sings the part of the choir (in unison of course!) = &nbsp;&nbs=3D p;&nbsp;=3D3Do) <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px so=3D lid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Scott is = dead-r=3D ight about the possibilities for organists in Anglican chant. = <BR>&nbsp;&nbs=3D p;The English cathedral organists have turned "word painting" in psalms = <BR>=3D into an art form</BLOCKQUOTE>.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 = FAMIL=3D Y=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR> <BR>Well, there is no reason American organists cannot do exactly the same = <=3D BR>things- especially when the choir is up to the task of singing such = elega=3D nt <BR>Psalmody correctly and the instrument is worthy of accompanying in = th=3D e <BR>"correct" style. <BR> <BR><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and Director of Music <BR>THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son Pipe Organ Co., St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR>Staff House Organist, THE FOX THEATRE, Detroit, MI (Wurlitzer, 1928) <BR>=3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens, <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_5a.f2ba1c7.278299c4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Cinema organs (Barton) From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:18:16 EST   In a message dated 1/1/01 8:34:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, dutchorgan@svs.net writes:   << Marr & Colton used plywood for their magnet boards. Very bad. >>   Out of curiosity, as I am not a Theater Organ expert or familiar with the works of Marr and Colton, why was this bad? And what is a magnet board?   Alan B    
(back) Subject: Re: CAD Programs X-post From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:46:03 EST   Hi Alan:   Write to Pete Visser, he has a CAD program for designing organs. Knowing Pete, he probably wrote it himself. The man is a genius!   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: abbreviated music list From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:24:00 EST     --part1_c7.529a673.2782bff0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I concur.   --part1_c7.529a673.2782bff0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">I = concur.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_c7.529a673.2782bff0_boundary--