PipeChat Digest #1743 - Thursday, January 4, 2001
 
Re: Karg-Elert
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: translation, please
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Book
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by "Charles Harder" <Charder@ties.k12.mn.us>
just between me and thee...
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Music for clarinet and organ
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: <My webpage photo album update is on this url
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: <My webpage photo album update is on this url
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
St. Matthew's-By-The-Crack-House (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: <My webpage photo album update is on this url
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
Re: St. Matthew's-By-The-Crack-House (X-posted)
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: True Story, The Hunter Meade Pipe Organ
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: <My webpage photo album update is on this url
  by "Rick Locher" <iplay4@mediaone.net>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Moving Drawknobs (X-Post)
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Moving Drawknobs (X-Post)
  by "Thomas H. Cotner" <cotnerpo@brightok.net>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net>
Re: Moving Drawknobs (X-Post)
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Moving Drawknobs (X-Post)
  by "Thomas H. Cotner" <cotnerpo@brightok.net>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: St. Matthew's-By-The-Crack-House (X-posted)
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Question (was Responsorial Psalms with Organ)
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
re: the "Postlude or not" thread
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?
  by "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Karg-Elert From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:29:51 -0500   >is there any truth to something I heard about Karg-Elert not playing his = own >compositions because they were too difficult? > >Carlo > I dunno. But it seems I did hear that about Max Reger, maybe?   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Professor of French Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: Re: translation, please From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:34:07 -0500   OK, folks. Here's a literal translation from a colleague of mine who's a native German speaker and professor of German:     Move in through my gates/doors/portals, be a guest in my heart. You, who has re-born me, as I was born, o dearly beloved (holy) spirit/ghost of the father and of the son, on a throne equal to the two, and praised as both (i.e. the father & the son) are praised.   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Book From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:49:10 -0500   Hello, Is anyone familiar with the book "J.S. Bach as Organist" by George B. Staufer and Ernest May? And if so do you recommend it? (Should mssrs = Staufer and May be listening your recommendtion doesn't count. Sorry guys.) Thanks, Robert Colasacco     > -----Original Message----- > From: RonSeverin@aol.com [mailto:RonSeverin@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 2:42 AM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: Karg-Elert > > > Hi Carlo: > > Max Reger also wrote difficult pieces to confound Karl Straube, whom > he didn't consider a great musician. Max and Sigfreid were a pair. > I do believe it was Sigfreid who came to the US late in his career and > played his own compositions poorly. Both of these guys literally kept > the ink shops in business. One of the Hapsburg monarchs actually told > Mozart he wrote too many notes. Both Max and Sigfreid certainly outdid > even Mozart. > > IMHO even Max Reger was hard pressed to play his own music too. This > might be an interesting thread to follow up on. Most of these > pieces are > interminably long, concert pieces. The pages were black with > notes. It's > interesting to note that Karl Straube was the focus of most > of this, and > they were written to embarass him. He the trooper that he was > played them > anyway, and probably better than Max. > > Regards, > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: "Charles Harder" <Charder@ties.k12.mn.us> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 10:05:52 -0600   >....and may be an > outgrowth of the Romantic idea that vocal music is only for the human > voice.     Excuse my ignorance, but what "vocal" music is written for instruments?   Charles Harder  
(back) Subject: just between me and thee... From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:03:59 -0500   Sorry, but a mistake crept into the transcription, and therefore the translation, of the Lutheran chorale. It's "thy" portal, not "my": deinen, not meinen.   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:21:21 EST   In a message dated 1/3/01 6:06:31 PM Central Standard Time, = gedeckt@usit.net writes:   << Sundays fall within the Lenten season, but are not Lent. I hope that someone more educated than I can shed some light in this subject. >>   Correct, thus Sundays in Lent are referred to as "Sundays in Lent" as opposed to other times of the year when Sundays are addressed as such: = "the 4th Sunday of Advent, etc...).   John  
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:27:57 EST   In a message dated 1/3/01 10:19:37 PM Central Standard Time, bald1@prodigy.net writes:   << If memory serves me, last year we just discussed whether to use a reed during Lent. Ah, the plots do thicken. >>   As a general rule, in keeping with the penitential season, during Lent if = I'm going to use a reed I'll keep the swell box tightly closed when doing so = and I NEVER ever use mixtures until Easter Sunday (same goes for Advent).   John  
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:35:35 EST   In a message dated 1/3/01 10:50:22 PM Central Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << I would say if a closing voluntary IS played on Palm Sunday, it should = be subdued ... the Liturgy of the Palms is over, and the Passion has been = sung for the first time. Whatever is played should reflect that. >>   I whole heartedly agree; however, I have yet to find a minister who shares =   the same feelings regarding these practices (and I've played in Lutheran, Episcopal, Methodist, and Christian Churches for the last 19 years -- = since I was 14). The pastors have always wanted a robust exit on Palm Sunday. To =   which I point out that once the Gospel is read on Palm Sunday the service = and music should take a somber turn... but I always face opposition... After all, what do I know? -- I'm just a lowly organist/choirmaster (a = liturgical or non-liturgical juke box).   John  
(back) Subject: Music for clarinet and organ From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:40:43 -0500   A friend of mine has just released a cd of music for clarinet and organ (I play the organ on it). If anyone's interested, they can take a look at http://www.fna.muohio.edu/musweb/recordings/aria.html   Most of the music was not originally written for that combination of instruments, but I think they work pretty well nonetheless.   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: <My webpage photo album update is on this url From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:11:38 EST   In a message dated 1/4/01 2:18:08 AM !!!First Boot!!!, danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca writes:   << = http://homepages.go.com/~danielswebpagelockeportnovascotia/albums/album1/ >>   Daniel, Thanks for sharing your site. The stenciling on the pipes is beautiful, = as is the stained glass you did. You're quite a talented one! Great site!   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: <My webpage photo album update is on this url From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 12:12:31 EST   Daniel:   Nice pictures, but why aren't there any pipes in the kitchen? It appears = to be an untapped resource.   Tom  
(back) Subject: St. Matthew's-By-The-Crack-House (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 10:47:21 -0800   My kids tell me that the SWAT team raided a drug lab in the trailer park next door after I left the new interim church last night ... THAT should THRILL the Newport Beach society matrons (evil chuckle ... I TOLD the Vestry to pay the additional rent and stay put where we were).   Bud, pricing bullet-proof vests    
(back) Subject: Re: <My webpage photo album update is on this url From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:40:49 -0600   Those stenciled pipes are just beautiful, nice site. Luther -----Original Message----- From: DanielW Hopkins <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: <My webpage photo album update is on this url     >Hey there >Here is what all of yas have been looking for<G> >An updated pic page of my Pipe Organ ,THere you will find pics of my Christmas holiday s >http://homepages.go.com/~danielswebpagelockeportnovascotia/albums/album1/ > >Danielwh >    
(back) Subject: Re: St. Matthew's-By-The-Crack-House (X-posted) From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:55:08 EST   Bud,   Best of luck to you and the parish (just duck and run in the parking = lot)... In most towns there's a law which requires bars, nudie bars, and other = places of questionable repute (grin) to be not within a certain radius of a church... I'm sure that crack houses and drug labs are not exempt!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: True Story, The Hunter Meade Pipe Organ From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:58:08 EST   Hi Tom:   I know you are speaking tongue in cheek about pipes in the kitchen. There was however, a very excentric gentleman, Hunter Meade by name who did just that! He was a professor at Cal-Tech in Pasadena, CA. It was a modest two bedroom bungalow. It contained an organ closing in on 100 ranks or so. There was so much pipe organ in the house, that he chose to live in a small house trailer in his backyard. The = console was a used four manual Austin, recently removed from St. Paul's Cathedral (Episcopal) in Los Angeles (1950's) Ken Simpson replaced that console with an Aeolian/Skinner and added a nine rank antiphonal.   The Hunter Meade special had pipes in the kitchen cabinets with the cabinet doors still attached. These pipes were part of the Positive = division. The Great Mixture was located in the entry room divider. There were literally pipes everywhere. A much mitered 32' Bombard was located in the only bathroom. The Swell and Choir were in one bedroom, Great, Solo, and part of the Pedal were in the remaining bedroom. All or most of the pipes were from Stinkens in Holland. Needless to say the dining room was full of pipes too. Now here is a man who truely loved the pipe organ. When the organ was nearly finished, dear old Hunter shuffled off to the Promised Land on High. It was left in his will to the auditorium at Cal-Tech. You can't immagine the shock of seeing something like this first hand. You can only immagine the trouble he would have been in if he were married.   Curiosity got the best of me one day, and I went over there to have a = look. His partner also lived out in the trailer, and let me in to see this grand wonder of the world. The house was up for sale at the time, and the organ had to go. (True Story) :)   Regards,   Ron Severin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---   --------------------------------- Daniel:   Nice pictures, but why aren't there any pipes in the kitchen? It appears = to be an untapped resource.   Tom  
(back) Subject: Re: <My webpage photo album update is on this url From: "Rick Locher" <iplay4@mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:24:54 -0800   What about a 32' Contra Bombarde in the smallest room of the house? Could make for some interesting conversation with guests! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 9:12 AM Subject: Re: <My webpage photo album update is on this url     > Daniel: > > Nice pictures, but why aren't there any pipes in the kitchen? It appears to > be an untapped resource. > > Tom > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 16:33:56 -0500   > From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com > Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? > > Correct, thus Sundays in Lent are referred to as "Sundays in Lent" as > opposed to other times of the year when Sundays are addressed as such: = "the > 4th Sunday of Advent, etc...). > An exception is the Sunday "after" Christmas, which it seems to me ought = to be "in" or "of" Christmas.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:36:57 -0500   Alan.........the Sunday right after Christmas is the feast of the Holy Family, so it is part of the Christmas season, although this year, the gospel was the one where Mary and Joseph look for Jesus and find him preaching in the temple. Funny how that is though, considering the Sunday coming up is the Epiphany, where the gospel will be about the 3 Wise Men.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Moving Drawknobs (X-Post) From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:38:08 -0800   I was wondering if anyone has come across pictures of moving drawknobs that I could use for a mouse over on Charles Hendrickson's website. I have some rocker tabs there now that I drew but I am looking for something better than that. I would of course give credit to anyone leading me to this.   Specifically I am looking for two images: one of a drawknob in the off position, and one of a drawknob in the on or engaged position. I would incorporate these into a mouse over for the links on http://hendricksonorgan.com.   It also should be free or fairly low cost, as I volunteered to do this website and am not looking to spend money on it (like $120 that it would cost me to advertise on the Church Organ Trader). Thank you for your help!   Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 16:43:14 -0500   I thought it was the deacon who said that.   Alan   > From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? > > isn't the last thing the priest says "the mass is ended, go in the peace = of > Christ", instead of "go in peace"? The two are very different. The > congregation answers "thanks be to God".    
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:47:10 -0500   a deacon may say those final words, as well as perform other functions during the mass, such as offering the sign of peace, reading the gospel, preaching the homily, and turning the pages for the presider. My father's = a permanent deacon, and he's even done baptisms.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Moving Drawknobs (X-Post) From: "Thomas H. Cotner" <cotnerpo@brightok.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:41:39 -0600   Funny you should mention Church Organ Trader. Tom has moving drawknobs on his site. Ask Him.   TC   Paul Soulek wrote:   > I was wondering if anyone has come across pictures of moving drawknobs > that I could use for a mouse over on Charles Hendrickson's website. I > have some rocker tabs there now that I drew but I am looking for > something better than that. I would of course give credit to anyone > leading me to this. > > Specifically I am looking for two images: one of a drawknob in the off > position, and one of a drawknob in the on or engaged position. I would > incorporate these into a mouse over for the links on > http://hendricksonorgan.com. > > It also should be free or fairly low cost, as I volunteered to do this > website and am not looking to spend money on it (like $120 that it would > cost me to advertise on the Church Organ Trader). Thank you for your > help! > > Paul > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 16:57:52 -0500   At 04:36 PM 01/04/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Alan.........the Sunday right after Christmas is the feast of the Holy >Family, so it is part of the Christmas season, although this year, the >gospel was the one where Mary and Joseph look for Jesus and find him >preaching in the temple. Funny how that is though, considering the Sunday >coming up is the Epiphany, where the gospel will be about the 3 Wise Men. > >Carlo     Interesting. Epiphany this year is on January 6th, so the 7th is the = first Sunday AFTER Epiphany. Lectionary (is there only one?) is the Baptism of Our Lord.   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Re: Moving Drawknobs (X-Post) From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:58:42 -0800   I did ask him and he responded that "it takes money to run and that it would cost $120 to have the drawknobs on the site......" I believe I adressed this in my original post.   Paul       Thomas H. Cotner wrote: > > Funny you should mention Church Organ Trader. Tom has moving drawknobs = on > his site. Ask Him. > > TC > > Paul Soulek wrote: > > > I was wondering if anyone has come across pictures of moving drawknobs > > that I could use for a mouse over on Charles Hendrickson's website. I > > have some rocker tabs there now that I drew but I am looking for > > something better than that. I would of course give credit to anyone > > leading me to this. > > > > Specifically I am looking for two images: one of a drawknob in the off > > position, and one of a drawknob in the on or engaged position. I would > > incorporate these into a mouse over for the links on > > http://hendricksonorgan.com. > > > > It also should be free or fairly low cost, as I volunteered to do this > > website and am not looking to spend money on it (like $120 that it = would > > cost me to advertise on the Church Organ Trader). Thank you for your > > help! > > > > Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:03:09 EST   In a message dated 1/4/01 3:33:54 PM Central Standard Time, afreed0904@earthlink.net writes:   << An exception is the Sunday "after" Christmas, which it seems to me = ought to be "in" or "of" Christmas. >>   This is true and I guess I forgot about the Sundays after Pentecost.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Moving Drawknobs (X-Post) From: "Thomas H. Cotner" <cotnerpo@brightok.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:58:39 -0600   You did, indeed, and I misunderstood. Sorry about that!   TC   Paul Soulek wrote:   > I did ask him and he responded that "it takes money to run and that it > would cost $120 to have the drawknobs on the site......" I believe I > adressed this in my original post. > > Paul    
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:05:59 EST   This thread is actually rather amusing... It's becoming more like "church chat" and I'm guilty in participating.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:08:00 -0500   there's nothing wrong with us talking about church related things. After all, organists work in church <G>.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: St. Matthew's-By-The-Crack-House (X-posted) From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:09:05 EST   Oh gosh, how could I have forgotten this... and by ALL means keep your = organ guarded!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:13:23 EST   In a message dated 1/4/01 4:09:31 PM Central Standard Time, organist@total.net writes:   << there's nothing wrong with us talking about church related things. = After all, organists work in church <G>. >>   True, why did you have to remind me of that! (evil grin).   John  
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 16:54:17 -0600       Charles Harder wrote:   > >....and may be an > > outgrowth of the Romantic idea that vocal music is only for the human > > voice. > > Excuse my ignorance, but what "vocal" music is written for instruments?   Michael Praetorius' _Syntagma musicum_, Hermann Finck's _Practica = musica_., and San Juan's _Missa a 8 con violines, trompas, y clarines_. There are also a number of woodcuts and friezes which illustrate instruments playing "in choir".   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: Question (was Responsorial Psalms with Organ) From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 17:01:26 -0600       Jerry wrote:   > All the discussion about Responsorial Psalms brings up a question. > > Hymns were not used by the Anglicans until the 19th century, but I = believe > Metrical Psalms were. Were these Metrical Psalms sung as the Psalter at > Morning or Evening Prayer or did they have another place in the service? = In > other words is there an Anglican tradition of using metrical psalms for = the > Psalter?   Try as I may, I have not found any evidence of the use of metrical = settings of the Psalms for the Gradual. I rather suspect that where they used = metrical settings of the Psalms, they spoke, rather than sang, the gradual psalm.   ns    
(back) Subject: re: the "Postlude or not" thread From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:00:05 -0600   John wrote to the List:   >This thread is actually rather amusing... It's becoming more like "church =   >chat" and I'm guilty in participating.   and Carlo answered:   >there's nothing wrong with us talking about church related things. After >all, organists work in church <G>.     Greetings, dear Pipechatters!   Point of order...<G>...   John is correct in that this thread is starting to drift a bit too far = away from the topic it originally encompassed. David and I aren't terribly bothered by this (as threads on Pipechat often tend to drift away...<g>) -- in fact, we both believe that the freedom we allow here for topics to drift where they may is indeed one of the benefits of belonging to = Pipechat.   There is a built-in ambiguity in the "guidelines" that allows a certain amount of discussion of church-related matters that do not pertain specifically to organs or organ music. This is intended to recognize that such "off-topics" do concern many Listmembers. However, one must realize that the Pipechat Membership also includes many that are *not* church organists (like, for instance, *me* <wink>) and for those folks, I fear that this thread is probably becoming tiresome. I seem to recall that someone wrote several days ago what seems to be the best response to the original question so far, when they wrote something along the lines of "no matter what the 'rules', the Clergy will likely do whatever they want to". =     Maybe we all should leave it at that.   Thank you, everyone, for continuing to subscribe to Pipechat. We *do* value everybody's contributions!!   Now, back to our regularly scheduled Pipechatting......!   Cordially,   Tim Bovard Pipechat Co-Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> <tmbovard@arkansas.net>   PS -- If anyone wishes to respond to this note, please write to me at either address above (not to the List).  
(back) Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is? From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:03:09 -0600   Isn't it "Go in peace to love and serve the Lord."? Response is "Thanks be to God." William D. "Bill" Babcock WDBabcock@msn.com wbabcock@lansing.lib.il.us My goal is to be the person my dog thinks I am. ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:08 PM Subject: Re: To play or not to play...a postlude that is?     > Carlo, I haven't been to an English RC Mass in twenty years .... but friends > tell me the priests say pretty much what they want to say, as long as it > vaguely resembles what's in the English Sacramentary. What I wrote may WELL be > the old INTERIM translation that was used when the Mass FIRST changed to > English. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Carlo Pietroniro wrote: > > > isn't the last thing the priest says "the mass is ended, go in the peace of > > Christ", instead of "go in peace"? The two are very different. The > > congregation answers "thanks be to God". > > > > Carlo > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >