PipeChat Digest #1751 - Monday, January 8, 2001
 
Moller Organ Co. ?
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
Bourdon amplification
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
Gaston Dethier piece
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Bourdon amplification
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Bourdon amplification
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Moller Organ Co. ?
  by "Hendrickson Organ Company" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
M.P. Moller History/Message Error
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re: Moller Organ Co. ?
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Old English  Baptist Hymn Book
  by "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net>
Out of print music...
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
Re: Out of print music...
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re:test
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: test
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: Moller Organ Co. ?
  by "George Lawn" <sandlawn@bayou.com>
Re: test
  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Bourdon amplification
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
ALL READ!!!  Re:test
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
the light at the end of the tunnel
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Concert Severance Hall
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
We three Kings - Toms River
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: We three Kings - Toms River
  by <Bobmac36@aol.com>
Re: We three Kings - Toms River
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: We three Kings - Toms River
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: New Thread
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Moller Organ Co. ? From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:33:58 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0087_01C078E9.29964180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi all   My church organ is, I believe, a 50 yr. old Moller, with no maker's tag. There is an opus # 968.   I can't find a website for Moller; can anyone help me with a contact? .....maybe they're no more!   Thanks! Ed Steltzer       ------=3D_NextPart_000_0087_01C078E9.29964180 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi all</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My church organ is, I believe, a 50 = yr. =3D old=3D20 Moller,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>with no maker's tag.&nbsp; There is = an =3D opus #=3D20 968.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't find a website for =3D Moller;&nbsp; can anyone=3D20 help</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>me with a contact? .....maybe they're = =3D no=3D20 more!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks!&nbsp;&nbsp; Ed =3D Steltzer</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0087_01C078E9.29964180--    
(back) Subject: Bourdon amplification From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:41:04 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0090_01C078EA.2789DA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Ed_Stauff@avid.com just recently asked about reverberation for a pipe organ; in a small room.   My question is about boosting the power of the 16' Gedeckt in our church organ. Like many very small instruments built about 50 years ago, it has only one flute rank, unified to the max. The pedal, therefore, has only the rather anemic sound of a 16' manual extension (no other pipes).   I've tried holding a microphone in front of one of the pipes, with the idea of amplifying the sound; if successful it would be switchable so that one could have soft sound, or louder. But the result wasn't very good; anyone=3D20 have any similar experience? .....better ideas?   We may have to add a $2500 electronic pedal sound, but I would like to consider other options first.   Thanks! Ed Steltzer   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0090_01C078EA.2789DA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ed_Stauff@avid.com just recently = asked =3D about=3D20 reverberation</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for a pipe organ;&nbsp; in a = small=3D20 room.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My question is about boosting the = power =3D of the 16'=3D20 Gedeckt</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in our church organ.&nbsp; Like many = =3D very small=3D20 instruments</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>built about 50 years ago,&nbsp; it = has =3D only one=3D20 flute rank,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>unified to the max.&nbsp;&nbsp; The = =3D pedal,=3D20 therefore, has only the</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>rather anemic sound of a 16' manual = =3D extension=3D20 (no</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>other pipes).</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've tried holding a microphone in = =3D front of one of=3D20 the pipes,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>with the idea of amplifying the =3D sound;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 if successful it</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would be switchable so that one could = =3D have soft=3D20 sound,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>or louder.&nbsp;&nbsp; But the result = =3D wasn't very=3D20 good;&nbsp; anyone </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>have any similar =3D experience?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 ......better ideas?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>We may have to add a $2500 electronic = =3D pedal=3D20 sound,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>but I would like to consider other = =3D options=3D20 first.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks! Ed =3D Steltzer</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0090_01C078EA.2789DA40--    
(back) Subject: Gaston Dethier piece From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:32:38 -0500   I've just finished a long and arduous process. I have the piece = "Christmas" by Gaston Dethier, but it's very old. Printed in 1902, the pages were frayed, the notes were faded, and there were pencil/pen markings on every page. In other words, it was in very bad shape; literally falling apart in my hands. But, thanks to modern technology, I was able to scan every page, and using the paint brush feature in Adobe Photoshop 6, I was able to = remove all the pencil/pen markings, fill in the faded notes, and restore the rips in the pages. The results are stunning: a crystal clear copy of this (now) obscure piece, as clear as it was the day it was printed, back in 1902. I can't believe my eyes. It's like it was printed today. I can now put the original in storage, before it deteriorates any further. Being 98 years = old, it's very delicate. This piece is often referred to as "Variations on = Adeste Fidelis", and has been out of print (in it's entirety) for well over 60 years. I believe it now appears in a few collections, but in an abridged form. I'd like to make this (now) cleaned up copy of this piece available = to anyone wanting a copy. Write to me privately (including your address), and I'd be happy to send it. I've learned so much from the members of the different lists I'm on, and I'd like to share this musical gem. It's 20 pages long. If you start learning it now, you'll need to learn 1.6 pages = per month, to have it ready for Christmas 2001.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Bourdon amplification From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:39:28 EST     --part1_95.535a6e0.278a7450_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/7/2001 8:32:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, steltzer@gwi.net writes:     > My question is about boosting the power of the 16' Gedeckt > in our church organ >   There is a system at the Tabernacle in Salt Lake, boosting the 32s way in = the back of the organ, which get out into the room very poorly. I believe it = was designed or contracted for by Jack Bethards, and my understanding was, = when I was last there looking at it, that it involved a sampling of the sound as heard close up, and this was "broadcast" into the building through = speakers as the pipes themselves were speaking. If that is correct, what you are hearing is an sampled electronic stop along with the original stop itself.   I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong about that.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com   --part1_95.535a6e0.278a7450_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 1/7/2001 8:32:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, = <BR>steltzer@gwi.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My question is = about boosting the power of the 16' Gedeckt <BR>in our church organ <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>There is a system at the Tabernacle in Salt Lake, boosting the 32s way = in the <BR>back of the organ, which get out into the room very poorly. I = believe it was <BR>designed or contracted for by Jack Bethards, and my = understanding was, when I <BR>was last there looking at it, that it = involved a sampling of the sound as <BR>heard close up, and this was = "broadcast" into the building through speakers <BR>as the pipes themselves = were speaking. If that is correct, what you are <BR>hearing is an sampled = electronic stop along with the original stop itself. <BR> <BR>I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong about that. <BR> <BR>Cheers, <BR> <BR>Malcolm Wechsler <BR>www.mander-organs.com</FONT></HTML>   --part1_95.535a6e0.278a7450_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bourdon amplification From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:39:09 -0600     --------------9FB3C304E6C087F3AEFAD49B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   There are Bourdon ranks including chests availabale for sale at reasonable prices. Check TAO and Diapason ads; also the Church Organ Trader website. Roy   Ed Steltzer wrote:   > Ed_Stauff@avid.com just recently asked about reverberationfor a pipe > organ; in a small room. My question is about boosting the power of > the 16' Gedecktin our church organ. Like many very small > instrumentsbuilt about 50 years ago, it has only one flute > rank,unified to the max. The pedal, therefore, has only therather > anemic sound of a 16' manual extension (noother pipes). I've tried > holding a microphone in front of one of the pipes,with the idea of > amplifying the sound; if successful itwould be switchable so that > one could have soft sound,or louder. But the result wasn't very > good; anyonehave any similar experience? .....better ideas? We may > have to add a $2500 electronic pedal sound,but I would like to > consider other options first. Thanks! Ed Steltzer   --------------9FB3C304E6C087F3AEFAD49B Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> There are Bourdon ranks including chests availabale for sale at reasonable <br>prices.&nbsp; Check TAO and Diapason ads; also the Church Organ Trader <br>website. <br>Roy <p>Ed Steltzer wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><style></style> <font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>Ed_Stauff@avid.com just recently asked about reverberation</font></font><font = face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>for a pipe organ;&nbsp; in a small room.</font></font>&nbsp;<font = face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>My question is about boosting the power of the 16' Gedeckt</font></font><font = face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>in our church organ.&nbsp; Like many very small = instruments</font></font><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>built about 50 years ago,&nbsp; it has only one flute rank,</font></font><font = face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>unified to the max.&nbsp;&nbsp; The pedal, therefore, has only = the</font></font><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>rather anemic sound of a 16' manual extension (no</font></font><font = face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>other pipes).</font></font>&nbsp;<font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>I've tried holding a microphone in front of one of the pipes,</font></font><font = face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>with the idea of amplifying the sound;&nbsp;&nbsp; if successful = it</font></font><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>would be switchable so that one could have soft sound,</font></font><font = face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>or louder.&nbsp;&nbsp; But the result wasn't very good;&nbsp; = anyone</font></font><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>have any similar experience?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; .....better = ideas?</font></font>&nbsp;<font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>We may have to add a $2500 electronic pedal sound,</font></font><font = face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>but I would like to consider other options first.</font></font>&nbsp;<font = face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>Thanks! Ed Steltzer</font></font></blockquote>   </body> </html>   --------------9FB3C304E6C087F3AEFAD49B--    
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Organ Co. ? From: "Hendrickson Organ Company" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:40:57 -0800   Ed Steltzer wrote: > > Hi all > > My church organ is, I believe, a 50 yr. old Moller, > with no maker's tag. There is an opus # 968. > > I can't find a website for Moller; can anyone help > me with a contact? .....maybe they're no more!   I believe they went out of business in the late 1980s. Allen Organ Company bought the "rights" to the M.P. Moller name (and maybe more). Allen's website is http://www.allenorgan.com   Paul  
(back) Subject: M.P. Moller History/Message Error From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:48:09 -0800   The name that the last message came from should have read Paul Soulek. It did not come from the Hendrickson Organ Company- I changed it when I sent out the site update e-mails today. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused. Sorry!   Paul Soulek Webmaster - Hendrickson Organ Company  
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Organ Co. ? From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:48:48 EST   Ed--- MP Moller Company , Hagerstown MD has been out of business for near 10 = years now. Hope this helps,, ---Roc LVRockafellow  
(back) Subject: Old English Baptist Hymn Book From: "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:50:02 -0500 (EST)   When I lived in Jamaica during the 1950's and 60's we used a Baptist Hymn book from England with chants and some short anthems in the back section. It was probably published in the 1930-40's. Is there anyone from the British Commonwealth region familiar with this book and where I could get a copy.   Ed    
(back) Subject: Out of print music... From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:06:24 -0500     Does anyone have a copy of Jean-Guy Ropartz "Prelude Funebre" that they would loan to a student, or since it is no longer in print, be willing to make a copy.   Thank you   HD    
(back) Subject: Re: Out of print music... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:15:31 -0500   I have "Prayer" in E Major by Reportz, but no "Prelude Funebre". Sorry.........   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re:test From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:28:25 EST   Hello. Hello. Is this thing on? Breaker breaker 19 for a radio check. None = of my posts are getting through.   Alan (frustrated) B  
(back) Subject: Re: test From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:31:49 -0500   I hear you good buddy Mike   TRACKELECT@cs.com wrote:   > Hello. Hello. Is this thing on? Breaker breaker 19 for a radio check. = None of > my posts are getting through. > > Alan (frustrated) B > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Organ Co. ? From: "George Lawn" <sandlawn@bayou.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:32:28 -0600   Ed,   I have a fairly complete Moller opus list ... #968 would have been more than 100 years ago ... where is the church located ....   Sand Lawn        
(back) Subject: Re: test From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:50:47 -0500   Yes they are !     On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:28:25 EST TRACKELECT@cs.com writes: > Hello. Hello. Is this thing on? Breaker breaker 19 for a radio check. > None of > my posts are getting through. > > Alan (frustrated) B > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: Bourdon amplification From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:13:21 EST   In a message dated 1/7/01 8:32:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, = steltzer@gwi.net writes:   << My question is about boosting the power of the 16' Gedeckt in our church organ. >>   Two points:   First; Try to find a real 16' Bourdon of generous scale instead of using electronic amplification. With the used organ / organ part market the way = it is this should be relitivly inexpensive. Second; If you must, because of space considerations, amplify the Gedeckt = you must use the proper equipment. If you are to sample it you might as well = go with an entire sampled division / MIDI instrument. If you simply amplify = it there are three things to contend with. 1: Bandwidth, The microphones,amplifier and speaker must have adequate responce below 30 Hz = to be effective. What you are going for is basically a 16' Bourdon whitch is mostly fundimental with a little second harmonic thrown in. 2. Microphone spacing. You must use more than one mic. to cover the entire rank. You = must use a mixer to balence them effectivly. You cant just jump them together. = 3. Feed back. There is a good chance that if the speaker and microphones are close together they will feed back. In that case you will have to move = them farther apart. If that is not possible then you have problems. You will = have to solve the problem with an equilizer, cutting the problem frequrncy, or = a "feedback destroyer". The latter is very tricky to use despite the manusacturer's claims that you just "set it and forget it". Be advised = that if you purchase speakers that are intended for rock / PA use that their frequency responce ratings are over exaggerated (+ - 10 dB as opposed to audiophile equyipment + - 3 dB) and are intended for use by tatooed, = pierced head bangers who only know brute power and are impressed only by huge = power ratings and don't care if it can't produce audable fundimentals below 60 = Hz. It's better to go with something like a Velodyne sub woofer.   Good luck.   Alan B  
(back) Subject: ALL READ!!! Re:test From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:24:40 -0600   Folks   Just a reminder - test postings are NOT allowed so let us please drop this subject. Please review the list guidelines on the web site.   If someone thinks they are having problems they are to contact the List Administrators. On rare occasions we will allow someone to do a test post for a specific reason BUT it has to be cleared with one of us FIRST!!   Sorry to intrude but with the number of posts each day I don't want to have test postings and their replies filling up list members mailboxes.   And now back to our regularly scheduled Happy PipeChatting   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: the light at the end of the tunnel From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:50:13 -0800   MAY be an eighteen-wheeler delivering my new or rebuilt organ (grin).   We have gotten the attention of our very capable Senior Warden (whose wife is the Choir Librarian) ... and Le Grand Hammond, while it PLAYED today for the first service in the new temporary space, probably sounded the UGLIEST it has EVER sounded with ABSOLUTELY no help from me. Honest! (grin)   He is in favor of an Organ Clearing House transplant for the interim church, which makes sense. It could then be resold twenty or thirty years down the road when the main church is built. A larger transplant or a new organ could then be built for the main church.   I don't think it's possible to design something that could be used in the interim church and then be completed/enlarged for the main church. The main church will be more than double the size of the interim church, with much higher ceilings.   So ... after three years of TOTAL frustration, I think we've turned a MAJOR corner. He indicated that "St. Matthew's Friends of Music" will be approached to start an organ fund. No mention of Mrs. Hammond Donor.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Concert Severance Hall From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:53:41 -0500 (EST)   About the abrupt end of the feed, it could be that it was done because the Cleveland Orchestra is in the middle of negotiations relating to internet broadcasting and the like.   We were supposed to have a Cleveland Orch concert on our radio station this week, but instead we got historic recordings, with Robert Conrad (the host) explaining why.   I'm not sure this IS the reason for the end of the feed, but it may have something to do w/ it.   Cheers    
(back) Subject: We three Kings - Toms River From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:12:10 -0500 (EST)   For First Sunday after Epiphany, our first hymn (my selection) was "We Three Kings".   I used an idea I had seen at another church 2 years ago... The congregation sang the first and last stanzas, plus all the refrains.   I had 3 male soloists sing one stanza each, while walking down the aisle carrying props replicating gold, frankincense, and myrrh. They each began their solos at the rear of the nave.   When the congregation sang the refrain, the soloist moved to the altar and laid his gift there and then froze in place until the song was completed.   It was quite moving and very well received.   Have a great week. Neil B    
(back) Subject: Re: We three Kings - Toms River From: <Bobmac36@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:25:06 EST   OH, Neil - I liked the story until you got to the word "song". Yeeeeeech. = A hymn is a hymn is a hymn. You'd better not use that word "song" if you = plan to go to a high-class country club for your next job. ;-) Hope your Christmas music went well. I was quite pleased with mine. Had = to play for 5 services on the 24th, and had the choir over for supper between =   the 7:30 and 10:30 PM services. Then had our annual New Year's Eve = concert which went well but there were only 50 there. Rain, ice, freezing weather = - traffic detours everywhere. Only the brave came. Had a party at my house = - it was fun as usual. Any prospects?  
(back) Subject: Re: We three Kings - Toms River From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:31:33 -0500   Mike Gettelman wrote: "Muhr is mine, it's bitter perfume" Your description of the song and the procession of the Kings is a duplicate of the experience I had at The Dover Congregational Church in Westlake Ohio in around 1965. I was the "Muhr King. The solo was = terrifying but the spiritual mood for me was simply magic. I had the same shivers as = I read your post here. Thank you.   A great week for you too Mike   Innkawgneeto@webtv.net wrote:   > For First Sunday after Epiphany, our first hymn (my selection) was "We > Three Kings". > > I used an idea I had seen at another church 2 years ago... The > congregation sang the first and last stanzas, plus all the refrains. > > I had 3 male soloists sing one stanza each, while walking down the aisle > carrying props replicating gold, frankincense, and myrrh. They each > began their solos at the rear of the nave. > > When the congregation sang the refrain, the soloist moved to the altar > and laid his gift there and then froze in place until the song was > completed. > > It was quite moving and very well received. > > Have a great week. > Neil B > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: We three Kings - Toms River From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:38:08 -0500 (EST)   I know, as soon as I posted "Song" I winced, but, alas it was too late.    
(back) Subject: Re: New Thread From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 01:46:24 EST     --part1_23.5c322b5.278abc40_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/7/01 8:04:39 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = mike3247@earthlink.net writes:     > Mike Gettelman wrote: > > Hello > > Since joining this List last night, I have had some encouragement to > ask my questions and participate actively in the discussions, but I > really have a more selfish agenda to be honest with you. > >   Mike, Please check the list rules. There is nothing contained therein about "honest" so please cut it out!!!! heeheehee "Selfish," however, = is acceptable! ;-) Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502   --part1_23.5c322b5.278abc40_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/7/01 8:04:39 PM !!!First Boot!!!, mike3247@earthlink.net <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Mike Gettelman = wrote: <BR> <BR>Hello <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Since joining this List last night, I have had some = encouragement to <BR>ask my questions and participate actively in the discussions, but I <BR>really have a more selfish agenda to be honest with you. <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Mike, &nbsp;Please check the list rules. &nbsp;&nbsp;There is nothing = contained therein <BR>about "honest" so please cut it out!!!! = &nbsp;heeheehee &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Selfish," however, is = <BR>acceptable! &nbsp;;-) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D5 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Bruce &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ = &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Cremona502@cs.com</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" = SIZE=3D5 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> &nbsp; <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ = ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at = &nbsp;&nbsp;Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502</FONT></HTML>   --part1_23.5c322b5.278abc40_boundary--