PipeChat Digest #1755 - Tuesday, January 9, 2001
 
Re: Looking  for hymn  book
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
special place in hell
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Bourdon amplification
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
Re: Bourdon amplification
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
PIPEWORK NEEDED
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Easter Postludes
  by "Eric" <ech1275@home.com>
Re: special place in hell for whom?
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
RE: special place in hell for whom?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: special place in hell for whom?
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
organ maintenance, etc.
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org>
Re: PIPEWORK NEEDED
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: Fw: Kitchens and Organs
  by "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net>
Re: Misc.!
  by "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net>
Re: PIPEWORK NEEDED
  by "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com>
Organ CADD
  by "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com>
Re: Misc.!
  by "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com>
Re: Misc.!
  by "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com>
Fwd: Re:Misc!
  by "Stu Ballinger" <wa2bss@vh.net>
Re: Frantic Organist
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Looking for hymn book From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 19:40:20 +0800   Sorry!!! This habit of pipechat of sending an e-mail out as "reply to all" when I click "reply" expecting it to go as P mail has caught me again. Guess you got it anyway, Ed. Hope it prints out OK. Bob E.   Ed Brown wrote: > > I am looking for a hymn book with the words and music of the > hymn..."Christ triumphant ever reigning"...tune name "Guiting Power" > by Barnard. It is a fairly recent hymn, but it is not in the > 1982 Episcop    
(back) Subject: special place in hell From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 08:34:00 -0500   Received same from a friend of mine...   >Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:11:56 -0500   >To: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@VASSAR.EDU> >MIME-version: 1.0 >Importance: Normal >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >   >Just talked to Homer the other day. He visited a RC church which had >a 3MP Casavant (EP) with ivory drawknobs (about 60). A twin chamber >installation. >The warden said that there were 4-5 ranks. Most of the knobs (like = bassoon >16', >cornet IV, etc) were inoperative. Homer peeked behind the facade pipes >and found one chamber to be completely empty. On the console was a = service >card from a Montreal organ technician who is notorious for making = pipework >'disappear' during his restorations. The remaining pipework had been >revoiced >and was LOUD and coarse (I suppose to fill the church with noise even = with >90% of the pipework missing). There's a special place in hell for people >like >this...      
(back) Subject: Re: Bourdon amplification From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:20:29 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_005F_01C07A1D.6888A600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Thanks very much!   I should have mentioned that we, like so many churches, have no room for larger scale pipes. It's jammed up tight!   thanks - Ed ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Roy Redman=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Bourdon amplification     There are Bourdon ranks including chests availabale for sale at =3D reasonable=3D20 prices. Check TAO and Diapason ads; also the Church Organ Trader=3D20 website.=3D20 Roy=3D20 Ed Steltzer wrote:=3D20   Ed_Stauff@avid.com just recently asked about reverberationfor a pipe = =3D organ; in a small room. My question is about boosting the power of the = =3D 16' Gedecktin our church organ. Like many very small instrumentsbuilt =3D about 50 years ago, it has only one flute rank,unified to the max. =3D The pedal, therefore, has only therather anemic sound of a 16' manual =3D extension (noother pipes). I've tried holding a microphone in front of =3D one of the pipes,with the idea of amplifying the sound; if successful = =3D itwould be switchable so that one could have soft sound,or louder. But = =3D the result wasn't very good; anyonehave any similar experience? =3D ......better ideas? We may have to add a $2500 electronic pedal sound,but = =3D I would like to consider other options first. Thanks! Ed Steltzer   ------=3D_NextPart_000_005F_01C07A1D.6888A600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks very much!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I should have mentioned that we, like = =3D so many=3D20 churches,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>have no room for larger scale =3D pipes.&nbsp; It's=3D20 jammed up tight!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>thanks - Ed</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = =3D 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A href=3D3D"mailto:rredman@imagin.net" title=3D3Drredman@imagin.net>Roy = =3D Redman</A>=3D20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org" =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org>PipeChat</A>=3D20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 07, 2001 = =3D 8:39=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bourdon =3D amplification</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>There are Bourdon ranks including chests availabale for = =3D sale at=3D20 reasonable <BR>prices.&nbsp; Check TAO and Diapason ads; also the =3D Church Organ=3D20 Trader <BR>website. <BR>Roy=3D20 <P>Ed Steltzer wrote:=3D20 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3D"CITE"> <STYLE></STYLE> <FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D-1><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Ed_Stauff@avid.com">Ed_Stauff@avid.com</A> just =3D recently asked=3D20 about reverberation</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT =3D size=3D3D-1>for a pipe=3D20 organ;&nbsp; in a small room.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><FONT=3D20 size=3D3D-1>My question is about boosting the power of the 16'=3D20 Gedeckt</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D-1>in our =3D church=3D20 organ.&nbsp; Like many very small instruments</FONT></FONT><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D-1>built about 50 years ago,&nbsp; it = has =3D only one=3D20 flute rank,</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = size=3D3D-1>unified =3D to the=3D20 max.&nbsp;&nbsp; The pedal, therefore, has only =3D the</FONT></FONT><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D-1>rather anemic sound of a 16' manual = =3D extension=3D20 (no</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D-1>other=3D20 pipes).</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D-1>I've = =3D tried holding=3D20 a microphone in front of one of the pipes,</FONT></FONT><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D-1>with the idea of amplifying the =3D sound;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 if successful it</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT =3D size=3D3D-1>would be=3D20 switchable so that one could have soft sound,</FONT></FONT><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D-1>or louder.&nbsp;&nbsp; But the result = =3D wasn't very=3D20 good;&nbsp; anyone</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT =3D size=3D3D-1>have any=3D20 similar experience?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; .....better=3D20 ideas?</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT size=3D3D-1>We = may =3D have to add=3D20 a $2500 electronic pedal sound,</FONT></FONT><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial><FONT=3D20 size=3D3D-1>but I would like to consider other options=3D20 first.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=3D3DArial><FONT = size=3D3D-1>Thanks! =3D Ed=3D20 Steltzer</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_005F_01C07A1D.6888A600--    
(back) Subject: Re: Bourdon amplification From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:55:39 -0500   Nice try, John! ......don't I wish that we had room for those wood opens! We don't even have enough room for a larger scale Bourdon.   BTW - those Odells may be worth more for lumber than for music! Ed   ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Cc: Caroline Kehne <ckehne@accglobal.net> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Bourdon amplification     > >Instead of a 2500 dollar electronic gismo how about a good used set of > >large-scale subbass pipes?.(in addition to the present gedeckt)...Steve > >Bournias > > As I posted last week, we have a nice set of 16' Odell wood opens with > chest that we'd like to see leave for MUCH less! (Poughkeepsie, NY) > > John V > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: PIPEWORK NEEDED From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:46:30 EST   Ladies and Gentlemen:   I am in need of some pipework, vintage or newly orphaned, for a project.   The first beast I need is YET ANOTHER Doppelflote. Thanks to those who responded last year for the last Doppelflote request -- if you haven't = sold those, contact me again, please. I can take this flute from 4' up or even =   higher, since that seems to be what is available.   Also needed are open metal flutes at 4', 2-2/3', and 2' of quality = alloy and good condition. A couple of missing trebles is okay, just no = demolition derby pipework please.   If amongst your stuff you also have a large-scale Clarinet or Basset Horn, = or Cromorne, I am interested in that. Cannot use 1960s Teutonic duck calls, = but really need something big and gutsy, or revoicable as such. For this = reed, which I wish to place on 8" wind, a cinema organ set is as useful as a concert or church set, depending upon the scale. It has to do battle with =   some big cornets in dialogue.   Please respond via email, or telephone (212) 979-7698   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Easter Postludes From: "Eric" <ech1275@home.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:13:24 -0500   Some suggestions on Easter Postludes 1. Prelude & Fugue in B major- M. Dupre (just play the prelude, it sounds like a toccata) 1. Toccata on Christ the Lord...-arr. Diane Bish 2. Toccata Symphony No.5- CM Widor (most people recognize it and will sit = to listen) 3. Paraphrase-Carillon- C. Tournemire (L'Orgue office 35) 4. Grand Choeur Dialogue- E. Gigout 5. Praise The Lord with Drums and Cymbals- Karg-Elert (nice if you have brass ensemble) 6. Carillon-Sortie- H. Mulet 7. Toccata- P. Fletcher 8. Partita on O Sons & Daughters- W. Held (normally I do this as a = prelude)   Last year I played Prelude: Partita on O Sons & Daugters- W. Held, Praise the = Lord...Karg-elert with brass. Postlude: Widor Toccata (Easter Vigil)/ Dupre Prelude B Major (Easter = Day).   Whatever you choose is purely up to you, but remember to keep it 'flashy'...pull out all the stops its the time when the organ comes back = to life after being quite during holy week.   Good Luck -Eric-   >>Darrell wrote Subject: Easter postludes - Tournemire? From: "Darrell Coons" <dcoons@netacc.net> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 22:50:30 -0500   I know Easter is still a long way away, but I am looking for suggestions = for a postlude. I normally alternate year after year with the Widor Toccata = and Mulet's Carillon-Sortie. These are fine but I would like to try something different for a change. A friend who loves organ music suggested Victimae Paschali by Tournemire. Can anyone give me information about this piece? = Is it difficult to learn? Do any of you use it for an Easter postlude, and if so how is it received by your congregation? I am not familiar with Tournemire's music.   Thanks, Darrell    
(back) Subject: Re: special place in hell for whom? From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:52:05 EST   Dear members of pipechat and PIPORGL, to which this was initially = crossposted:   This topic has come up before, and the discussions INVARIABLY refer to somebody "notorious" for this type of work, or "with a reputation for stealing pipework." The first incident is obviously a criminal act, but it is far more criminal to have so many people let this type of thing continue. It takes =   MANY documented events such as this for somebody to be "known" for it, or = to become "notorious," yet somehow NOT notorious enough for anybody to take legal action or to stop hiring the fellow. Somebody failed to do their homework, or wanted things done cheaply. I =   have seen organs butchered and pillaged by people who continue their = rampage of theft, incompetence, and destruction, and the ONLY way this is possible = is if they are permitted to remain in business. They CANNOT be in business = if they are not hired. These people are hired because they promise things quickly and cheaply, and the client jumps at the chance. GET A SIGNED CONTRACT, and have your parish attorney look it over. NOW, if you are having alterations made to your instrument, have a = WRITTEN contract which indicates WHAT is to be done with pipes that are replaced. =   Sometimes full legal contracts specify that the organbuilder keeps all = usable pipework and mechanical equipment not used in the new instrument, others specify the responsibility of marketing the vintage parts, while yet = others divide the responsibility of distribution of the pipework to the organbuilder, and the removal of the old instrument's infrastructure to a secondary contractor. The only time an organbuilder can remove material from an organ is when = he has a signed contract and the church fails to make payment on the new material. If he has paid for the pipework, and the church as breached the =   contract, he may remove it. Churches are often known to default on = contracts and payments, or have organ funds go missing; some denominations are allegedly "notorious" for it. So if a church has selected a "tech" (I so profoundly detest that term) =   because they are the first name they found, or they've been there for = twenty years, even though the organ is in deplorable condition, don't blame the inept "tech." In an age at which information is available to all in = greater quantities than we can handle, DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Find a good = organbuilder, ask him or her for references, see their workshop, meet their staff, hear = and play instruments which they have built or for which they serve as = curators. How do you select your surgeon, gynecologist, or childcare professional?   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: RE: special place in hell for whom? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:31:48 -0500   Bravo Sebastian. And that place is between Hitler and Sadam.   > Sebastian Matthaus Gluck > New York City > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: RE: special place in hell for whom? From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:56:55 -0500   >Bravo Sebastian. And that place is between Hitler and Sadam. >   "SMG, You did it again!" better than many of us.   Add my "bravos!"   John V      
(back) Subject: organ maintenance, etc. From: "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:43:18 -0800   While we are on the subject, while I am not speaking of the fairly knowledgeable readership of this list, I find that while most "trained" organists do have a general knowledge of how things work, after twenty = years of playing, I remain dismayed at the numbers of degreed organists who are not even able to knock a pipe back into tune or pull out a cipher.   At my last church after working with their tuner of ten or so years I finally changed, and the replacement had to literally BANG most of the tuning slides (on a 1975 organ) in the swell loose so he could adjust the pitch. At my present position I was sat in at the last tuner's quarterly visit. His father had been hired because of family connections. They "messed" with the Trumpet a little (and that is the correct word) and did some other stuff, none of which helped, and I actually went back in and corrected some of the reeds that refused to speak AFTER being tuned. I = was clear both these fellows with a list of what needed to be done or = corrected. The person at St. Peter's just didn't come back, so he self terminated.   But as Sebastian was alluding to - as musicians, organists and directors, = it is OUR fault when this kind of lack of quality work is tolerated. Clergy and boards and such usually, I find, respect the opinions of the musician = in these cases - not always, I am sure, but when I told them they were paying $1,200.00 a year for nothing they wasted no time in giving me leave to retire the incompetent tuner.   All I could think when I got to St. Peter's was how in the world was ANY decent musician able to tolerate an instrument so out of tune as to drive you crazy. I am talking in highly degreed organists and talented college students. All I can think is that even organists in many cases just don't get it where the instrument's workings are concerned. Is it just me???      
(back) Subject: Re: PIPEWORK NEEDED From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:26:27 -0500   > Cromorne, I am interested in that. Cannot use 1960s Teutonic duck > calls, but really need something big and gutsy, or revoicable as such   Uh, have you ever heard a _real_ Crumhorn, the instrument? ;) tlw    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Kitchens and Organs From: "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:26:57 -0600   Tell me dear Maynard, is that a flu or a reed?   Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maynard Cuppy" <cuppy.maynard@mcleodusa.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Kitchens and Organs     > Actually, it's probably your Kitchen Zink 8' that's causing all the damage. :) > Maynard > > VEAGUE wrote: > > > My 2/9 Wurli likewise rearranges dishes...............shakes in-wall > > plumbing, and even cracks upstairs windows. Ahhhhhh.....love those bourdons > > and diaphones ! > > > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> > > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 7:26 PM > > Subject: Re: Kitchens and Organs > > > > > Chris: > > > > > > I used to have a 4-rank Wurlitzer. The pipe chamber was in the basement > > right > > > below the kitchen. When playing, the organ would re-arrange the = dishes in > > the > > > kitchen cabinets. My wife finally said it's her or the organ. I = wished her > > > well. We're divorced now. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > P.S. I have a 4-rank Moller now. > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Misc.! From: "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:42:23 -0600   This has got to be ELCA. I thought that St. John Divine was an RC church     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Misc.!     > Excerpts from mail: 6-Jan-101 Misc.! by Stu Ballinger@vh.net > > There will be a celibration of the resumption of Full Communion bet. = the > > Evangelical Lutherine & the Episcopal Church, on 02/03/2001, @ 10:30AM = @ the > > Cathederal of St. John Divine (NYC) > > Resumption? I didn't think there ever was. > Stan Yoder > Pittsburgh > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: PIPEWORK NEEDED From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:56:04 -0600   I have also played and currently own an SATB consort of the "duck calls" (they play a bit better in tune however.) William D. "Bill" Babcock WDBabcock@msn.com wbabcock@lansing.lib.il.us My goal is to be the person my dog thinks I am. ----- Original Message ----- From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: Re: PIPEWORK NEEDED     > > Cromorne, I am interested in that. Cannot use 1960s Teutonic duck > > calls, but really need something big and gutsy, or revoicable as such > > Uh, have you ever heard a _real_ Crumhorn, the instrument? ;) > tlw > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >        
(back) Subject: Organ CADD From: "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 21:06:58 -0500   I need an organ CADD program as soon as I can locate one.   I now Ontko has one, but I haven't heard a responce from him yet. (over 2 =   months!)   Does anyone have any leads???     Thanks, Jason Comet _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Misc.! From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:00:16 -0600   Couldn't be RC it's too high church for that. William D. "Bill" Babcock WDBabcock@msn.com wbabcock@lansing.lib.il.us My goal is to be the person my dog thinks I am. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:42 PM Subject: Re: Misc.!     > This has got to be ELCA. I thought that St. John Divine was an RC church > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 8:52 AM > Subject: Re: Misc.! > > > > Excerpts from mail: 6-Jan-101 Misc.! by Stu Ballinger@vh.net > > > There will be a celibration of the resumption of Full Communion bet. the > > > Evangelical Lutherine & the Episcopal Church, on 02/03/2001, @ 10:30AM @ > the > > > Cathederal of St. John Divine (NYC) > > > > Resumption? I didn't think there ever was. > > Stan Yoder > > Pittsburgh > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >        
(back) Subject: Re: Misc.! From: "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:15:31 -0500   Actually, it's neither; St. John the Incomplete is the seat of the = Episcopal diocese of New York.     ----- Original Message ----- From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 21:00 Subject: Re: Misc.!     > Couldn't be RC it's too high church for that. > William D. "Bill" Babcock > WDBabcock@msn.com > wbabcock@lansing.lib.il.us > My goal is to be the person > my dog thinks I am. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:42 PM > Subject: Re: Misc.! > > > > This has got to be ELCA. I thought that St. John Divine was > an RC church > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> > > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 8:52 AM > > Subject: Re: Misc.! > > > > > > > Excerpts from mail: 6-Jan-101 Misc.! by Stu Ballinger@vh.net > > > > There will be a celibration of the resumption of Full > Communion bet. the > > > > Evangelical Lutherine & the Episcopal Church, on > 02/03/2001, @ 10:30AM @ > > the > > > > Cathederal of St. John Divine (NYC) > > > > > > Resumption? I didn't think there ever was. > > > Stan Yoder > > > Pittsburgh > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & > related topics > > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & > related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Fwd: Re:Misc! From: "Stu Ballinger" <wa2bss@vh.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 21:17:26 -0500   >To: pipechat@pipchat.org >From: Stu Ballinger <wa2bss@vh.net> >Subject: Re:Misc! > >Jim (Et Al), St. John the Divine is the Episcopal Cathederal & >headquarters of the >Episcopal Diocese of NY, which comprises the counties: Manhattan, >Bronx,Staten Island,Weschester,Rockland,Sullivan,Orange, Ulster, Putnam, = & >Dutchess! >They also have a website at: www.dioceseny.org/ & that Cathederal = contain >a 1912 (or so) Skinner & rebuilt by Aoleian-Skinner! = Thanks,.stu >Ballinger > = > (1995 EPB Fellow!)    
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