PipeChat Digest #1764 - Friday, January 12, 2001
 
Re: OFF-TOPIC (if you like) favorite Italian church stories
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Zwolle anyone?
  by "Vincent Lef=E8vre" <vlefevere@online.be>
RE: Zwolle anyone?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Anatomy of a Strike - NOT!
  by "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com>
Re: Moller's bankruptcy AND LA archdiocese cans Dobson?
  by "Charles Harder" <Charder@ties.k12.mn.us>
Re: Amplified Reed WurliTzer w/ real pipes?
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
RE: Zwolle anyone?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: OFF-TOPIC (if you like) favorite Italian church stories
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
RE: Our Choir's Rome Trip and Organs (x post)
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Gaston Dethier piece
  by "noel jones, aago" <gedeckt@usit.net>
RE: What Has The Situation Come To?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: LA archdiocese cans Dobson?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Discredited subject line...
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
RE: OFF-TOPIC (if you like) favorite Italian church stories
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Gounod piece
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: OFF-TOPIC (if you like) favorite Italian church stories
  by "noel jones, aago" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: Gounod piece
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC (if you like) favorite Italian church stories From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:47:31 +0800   Yes. It sounded like a bunch of operatic soloists each doing his own thing! Bob E.   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > >> > Have you listened to the VATICAN choir lately??!! > > Cheers, > > Bud > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Zwolle anyone? From: "Vincent Lef=E8vre" <vlefevere@online.be> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:27:27 +0100   I forwarded your question to Zwolle (postbus@zwolle.nl). Please keep me informed wether or not you got a reply. ----- Original Message ----- From: COLASACCO, ROBERT <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:51 PM Subject: Zwolle anyone?     > Is there anyone on this list from Holland or Holland organs = knowledgeable? > I'm curious to know the state of existence of the organ at St. Michael's at > Zwolle? Anyone? > Robert Colasacco > PS In attempting to send this my spell checker offers swollen for = Zwolle. So > I add is the Organ at Zwolle swollen? > > Robert B. Colasacco > Administrative Assistant/Secretary > Distinguished Colleagues > Population Council > One Dag Hammarskjold Plaza > New York, NY 10017 > Direct Telephone: (212) 339-0685 > Main Telephone: (212) 339-0500 > Fax: (212) 755-6052 > e-mail: rcolasacco@popcouncil.org > Visit our web site: > www.popcouncil.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: RE: Zwolle anyone? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:39:59 -0500   Thank you.   > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Lef=E8vre [mailto:vlefevere@online.be] > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:27 AM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Zwolle anyone? >=20 >=20 > I forwarded your question to Zwolle (postbus@zwolle.nl).=20 > Please keep me > informed wether or not you got a reply. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: COLASACCO, ROBERT <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:51 PM > Subject: Zwolle anyone? >=20 >=20 > > Is there anyone on this list from Holland or Holland organs=20 > knowledgeable? > > I'm curious to know the state of existence of the organ at=20 > St. Michael's > at > > Zwolle? Anyone? > > Robert Colasacco > > PS In attempting to send this my spell checker offers=20 > swollen for Zwolle. > So > > I add is the Organ at Zwolle swollen? > > > > Robert B. Colasacco > > Administrative Assistant/Secretary > > Distinguished Colleagues > > Population Council > > One Dag Hammarskjold Plaza > > New York, NY 10017 > > Direct Telephone: (212) 339-0685 > > Main Telephone: (212) 339-0500 > > Fax: (212) 755-6052 > > e-mail: rcolasacco@popcouncil.org > > Visit our web site: > > www.popcouncil.org > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs &=20 > related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > >=20 >=20 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >=20  
(back) Subject: Re: Anatomy of a Strike - NOT! From: "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:03:02 -0600     ------=3D_NextPart_001_0000_01C07C6E.1628E700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable         >My analysis of the M=3DF6ller situation...     Were you there?<br clear=3D3Dall><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN = Explorer=3D at <a = href=3D3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></=3D p>   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0000_01C07C6E.1628E700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><BODY STYLE=3D3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV><BR></DIV> = <DI=3D V><BR>&gt;My analysis of the M=3DF6ller situation...</DIV> = <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV=3D > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Were you there?</DIV> = <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></=3D HTML><DIV><BR><br clear=3D3Dall><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer = =3D at <a = href=3D3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p=3D ></DIV>   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0000_01C07C6E.1628E700--  
(back) Subject: Re: Moller's bankruptcy AND LA archdiocese cans Dobson? From: "Charles Harder" <Charder@ties.k12.mn.us> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:25:29 -0600   Bob Scarborough wrote: >   > anyway, as most RCs here feel it's an expensive ego stroke on Mahoney's > part.   Weren't a good share of Cathedrals built in Europe and America an ego stroke for their own respective bishops? But we value them today as an important contribution to religion, to archetecture, to the arts, to civic life.   Charles Harder  
(back) Subject: Re: Amplified Reed WurliTzer w/ real pipes? From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:28:39 -0500     >> keyed via a magnetically operated pallet for each reed, these wind >>chests are >> sealed, and do not lend themselves to attachments, nor do the keys, = save >>adding >> additional key contacts -- unless someone has developed some method of >>using the >> existing keying. >> >> You are best off with a small additional blower imho, and extra key >>contacts. >> That is the safest, and probably the most practical (translate - = cheapest) >> method.   A simple addition is to mount a tiny magnet on the key body and a reed switch in proximity. It requires no mechanical linkage or wiring to the keys. just be sure the reed switches are placed such that the adjoining magnets don't activate them.   Another method is to use an opto-isolator with a flag on the key body that interrupts the light path. but that might be getting too complicated.   John V      
(back) Subject: RE: Zwolle anyone? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:16:55 -0500   Hello Vincent, I guess you are in Belgium? I'm just curious to know whom did you send = the message? I see the address but is that someone who has access to the Schnitger organ at St. Michael's? The reason I ask about the Zwolle = organ is that it was a recording by E. Power Biggs in the 1950s played on the = Zwolle organ that inspired me to become an organist. I made an attempt to = visit the church about 10 years ago but when I arrived there a wedding was about = to take place and the minster stopped me at the door and asked if I was = invited to the wedding, and of course I wasn't. I had only made the trip, a pilgramage for me, to see and possible hear in person the organ that = was so dear to my heart. So although I was there I was not allowed into the = church. I go to Amsterdam at least once every two years, maybe one day if I = know how to get access to that church (I guess on a Sunday morning) I'll go. I'd = like to see it before I die. Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Robert Colasacco   > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Lef=E8vre [mailto:vlefevere@online.be] > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:27 AM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Zwolle anyone? >=20 >=20 > I forwarded your question to Zwolle (postbus@zwolle.nl).=20 > Please keep me > informed wether or not you got a reply. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: COLASACCO, ROBERT <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:51 PM > Subject: Zwolle anyone? >=20 >=20 > > Is there anyone on this list from Holland or Holland organs=20 > knowledgeable? > > I'm curious to know the state of existence of the organ at=20 > St. Michael's > at > > Zwolle? Anyone? > > Robert Colasacco > > PS In attempting to send this my spell checker offers=20 > swollen for Zwolle. > So > > I add is the Organ at Zwolle swollen? > > > > Robert B. Colasacco > > Administrative Assistant/Secretary > > Distinguished Colleagues > > Population Council > > One Dag Hammarskjold Plaza > > New York, NY 10017 > > Direct Telephone: (212) 339-0685 > > Main Telephone: (212) 339-0500 > > Fax: (212) 755-6052 > > e-mail: rcolasacco@popcouncil.org > > Visit our web site: > > www.popcouncil.org > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs &=20 > related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > >=20 >=20 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >=20  
(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC (if you like) favorite Italian church stories From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:25:31 EST     --part1_17.102329f3.27906ddb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/11/2001 11:44:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > Have you listened to the VATICAN choir lately??!!   Not lately, but when I taught a course called "The Child Voice," at some point in the year, I played the class a recording of the Vatican Choir. = They, without fail each year, laughed vigorously, and when asked, as I of course =   was, I announced that it was the choir of the Vatican in Rome. It was a = bad moment for the Roman Catholic students, whom I could almost without fail identify at that moment by their expressions. I really did not mean to be cruel - it was just the way it was - and it certainly provided a lot of fodder for discussion. I always asked if it was not possible that this = choir, possibly a direct descendent of the choirs of the "Golden Age of = Polyphony," might, in fact, represent what the music of Palestrina might have sounded like in his time.   Cheers,   Malcolm   --part1_17.102329f3.27906ddb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 1/11/2001 11:44:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, = <BR>quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Have you listened = to the VATICAN choir lately??!!</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Not lately, but when I taught a course called "The Child Voice," at = some <BR>point in the year, I played the class a recording of the Vatican = Choir. They, <BR>without fail each year, laughed vigorously, and when = asked, as I of course <BR>was, I announced that it was the choir of the = Vatican in Rome. It was a bad <BR>moment for the Roman Catholic students, = whom I could almost without fail <BR>identify at that moment by their = expressions. I really did not mean to be <BR>cruel - it was just the way = it was - and it certainly provided a lot of <BR>fodder for discussion. I = always asked if it was not possible that this choir, <BR>possibly a direct = descendent of the choirs of the "Golden Age of Polyphony," <BR>might, in = fact, represent what the music of Palestrina might have sounded <BR>like = in his time. <BR> <BR>Cheers, <BR> <BR>Malcolm &nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_17.102329f3.27906ddb_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Our Choir's Rome Trip and Organs (x post) From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:28:31 -0500   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C07CA3.EFF82C4A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   Yyyyyyuk!   -----Original Message----- From: ManderUSA@aol.com [mailto:ManderUSA@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 10:49 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Our Choir's Rome Trip and Organs (x post)     In a message dated 1/11/2001 12:26:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes:         BTW they have, as do many italian churches these day, unfortunately, recorded music playing during "tourist" hours.       What's worse is the use of recorded music playing at Mass. Stuck (a happy sort of stuck) in San Marco, Venice of a Sunday morning a few years ago, because of the rising high water, I heard four Masses. No 1, which began = at 8 a.m. had a real organist playing, with a girls' choir singing the Franck Panis Angelicus in two parts. At the second Mass, an organist played bits = of   repertoire competently. At the third Mass, an organist played bits of repertoire INcompetently, seeming to begin each time with the first bars = of well-known pieces, and then drifting off into some outrageously bad improvisation. He was obviously expected to noodle during the distribution of the Communion, but forgot until the loud, pregnant throat clearing into = the microphone at the altar reminded him. Then, the job was to stop him, for which purpose the priest rapped loudly on the microphone. Ah, but Mass number four was the best yet - it was drop needle ti! me (this was still the era = of   the LP), so we got bits of organ music with scraping sounds as the needle was bumped, with an abrupt pause when the clergy reached the altar. The needle =   descended and scraped and ascended many times during that Mass. It really was excruciating, but no one but us refined ones seemed to even notice it.   We did wonder where all the people came from - how they came and left - as =   any door at street level was blocked by the high water. We later found = that there was a way of going up a flight of stairs and entering and exiting through an adjoining building. The water had receded by the time Mass = number   four ended!   I was a bit of a recording freak in those days, and had with me a small = Sony   tape recorder. Somewhere, all of this stuff is on two C-90 tapes, if I = could   ever find them. I am in the process of moving, in fact, so there is no telling what might turn up!   Cheers,   Malcolm     ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C07CA3.EFF82C4A Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3013.2600" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#008000 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN class=3D035222814-12012001>Yyyyyyuk!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #008000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> ManderUSA@aol.com [mailto:ManderUSA@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 11, 2001 = 10:49 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Our = Choir's Rome Trip and Organs (x post)<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT = face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT face=3DArial lang=3D0 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated = 1/11/2001 12:26:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes: =   <BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#008000 face=3DTahoma lang=3D0 size=3D2 =   FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE=3D"CITE">BTW they have, as do many italian churches these day, unfortunately, <BR>recorded music playing during "tourist" hours.</FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DTahoma lang=3D0 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 = face=3DArial lang=3D0 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>What's worse is the use of = recorded music playing at Mass. Stuck (a happy <BR>sort of stuck) in San Marco, Venice = of a Sunday morning a few years ago, <BR>because of the rising high water, I = heard four Masses. No 1, which began at 8 <BR>a.m. had a real organist = playing, with a girls' choir singing the Franck <BR>Panis Angelicus in two parts. At = the second Mass, an organist played bits of <BR>repertoire competently. At = the third Mass, an organist played bits of <BR>repertoire INcompetently, = seeming to begin each time with the first bars of <BR>well-known pieces, and = then drifting off into some outrageously bad <BR>improvisation. He was = obviously expected to noodle during the distribution of <BR>the Communion, but = forgot until the loud, pregnant throat clearing into the <BR>microphone at the = altar reminded him. Then, the job was to stop him, for <BR>which purpose the = priest rapped loudly on the microphone. Ah, but Mass number <BR>four was the = best yet - it was drop needle ti! me (this was still the era of <BR>the LP), so = we got bits of organ music with scraping sounds as the needle was <BR>bumped, = with an abrupt pause when the clergy reached the altar. The needle <BR>descended = and scraped and ascended many times during that Mass. It really was <BR>excruciating, but no one but us refined ones seemed to even notice = it. <BR><BR>We did wonder where all the people came from - how they came and = left - as <BR>any door at street level was blocked by the high water. We = later found that <BR>there was a way of going up a flight of stairs and = entering and exiting <BR>through an adjoining building. The water had receded by the = time Mass number <BR>four ended! <BR><BR>I was a bit of a recording freak in = those days, and had with me a small Sony <BR>tape recorder. Somewhere, all of = this stuff is on two C-90 tapes, if I could <BR>ever find them. I am in the = process of moving, in fact, so there is no <BR>telling what might turn up! <BR><BR>Cheers, <BR><BR>Malcolm = </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C07CA3.EFF82C4A--  
(back) Subject: Re: Gaston Dethier piece From: "noel jones, aago" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:32:03 -0500   Carlo:   I would really like to have a copy of your edition!   noel jones po box 1614 athens, tn 37777 USA   Carlo Pietroniro wrote: > > for those who may be interested......... > > I just did some counting, and the entire "Christmas" is 321 measures, = versus > 110 as it appears in the "Diane Bish Christmas Collection", which is a = red > spiral-bound book. She sure did cut it down <G>. > > Carlo > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- Noel Jones, AAGO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Moderator, rodgersorgan@egroups.com www.frogmusic.com/rodgersorgan.html  
(back) Subject: RE: What Has The Situation Come To? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:06:43 -0500   Okay, but where's the insert symbol?     > In some word processors the cents sign is available under insert > symbol.   > William D. "Bill" Babcock > WDBabcock@msn.com > wbabcock@lansing.lib.il.us > My goal is to be the person > my dog thinks I am. > >  
(back) Subject: RE: LA archdiocese cans Dobson? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:30:16 -0500   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C07CAC.940BFB6A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   add // after http:   -----Original Message----- From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:53 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: LA archdiocese cans Dobson?     In a message dated 1/11/01 10:12:38 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jpanning@cal-net.net writes:         A stoplist can be found on our website at http:www.dobsonorgan.com ; additional construction =   photos will be posted there soon.         I was unable to find it. Perhaps some clues??? ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at < Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 >     ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C07CAC.940BFB6A Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">     <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3013.2600" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=3D#008000 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D300053015-12012001>add // after http:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #008000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT = face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 12, 2001 3:53 =   AM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: LA = archdiocese cans Dobson?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = size=3D2>In a message dated 1/11/01 10:12:38 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jpanning@cal-net.net =   <BR>writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE=3D"CITE">A stoplist can be <BR>found on our website at http:www.dobsonorgan.com ; additional construction <BR>photos will be = posted there soon. </FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial lang=3D0 = size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 = face=3DArial lang=3D0 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR>I was unable to find it. &nbsp;&nbsp;Perhaps some clues??? &nbsp;;-) <BR><BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo Bohawow!" <BR>Visit = Howling Acres at &lt; &nbsp;Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 &nbsp;&gt;</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C07CAC.940BFB6A--  
(back) Subject: Discredited subject line... From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:36:35 -0500   If I was the Dobson Organ Company I would be incensed at the continued use =   of the original subject line in continued postings after John Panning, their Tonal Director, went to the trouble to put the record straight . Come on guys and gals, cut it out ! Are you too lazy to type in three = or four words that would be in accord with the facts!   HD    
(back) Subject: RE: OFF-TOPIC (if you like) favorite Italian church stories From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:45:33 -0500   You really should be careful when you direct your venom at a whole people, it's what is called an ethnic slur PC or not it's a slur. I don't know = where you are from or who you are but point your finger and giggle to yourself = but bear in mind those "italians" (you probably pronounce it ayetalians) can claim a tradition in arts and sciences that you would be proud of were you one, an ayetalian, that is. As for Italy holding an estimated (see UN figures) 40% - 50% of the world's art treasures, well, ha, ha, ha. Robert Bernardino Colasacco   > -----Original Message----- > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:45 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: OFF-TOPIC (if you like) favorite Italian church stories > > > We were at the cathedral in Pisa when the bells rang for Vespers ... > sure enough, a mound (how else to describe them?) of ANCIENT canons in > TATTERED, DIRTY lace rochets tottered out to the > horseshoe-shaped choir > stalls behind the High Altar. > > At the ringing of a bell, each began the Office of Vespers, at his own > speed, at his own pitch. The choir stood and sat like waves > of the sea, > depending on where various members were in the Office. > > At the ringing of a second bell, all came to a screeching > halt (finished > or not), and the canons tottered out. > > My Methodist mother couldn't figure out what I thought was so FUNNY > (grin). > > And THESE are the folks (the Italians, that is) who write the > rules for > RC liturgy and music worldwide ... > > Have you listened to the VATICAN choir lately??!! > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Gounod piece From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:49:39 -0500   I've heard that "Praise Ye The Father", otherwise known as "Marche = Romaine" by Charles Gounod, has some kind of connection to the Vatican and the = pope. Is this true, and if yes, what connection?   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC (if you like) favorite Italian church stories From: "noel jones, aago" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:57:15 -0500   Robert and all:   Much of the negative feeling and comments towards Italy and the Italians comes from those who have been there.   It is very disappointing to arrive and find the very sad state of affairs in churches there throughout the country.   We have heard of Mozart traveling to hear the Sistine Chapel Choir and transcribing the Allegri Miserere...and we arrive and hear Mass at Il Duomo in Barga and are treated to a choir singing a liturgical text to the tune of Red River Valley with guitars.   Organs sit unplayable in many, many churches, due to lack of funds for = maintenance.   For the Catholics it is especially disturbing, after years of carefully ordering candles of the required amount of pure beeswax to be used for altar candles, to find Mass being announced in Italy by the illumination of Christmas tree bulbs in fake candles on the altars.   The Midnight Mass from the Vatican could draw people to the faith...but the music alone leaves all awestruck. .. -- Noel Jones, AAGO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Moderator, rodgersorgan@egroups.com www.frogmusic.com/rodgersorgan.html  
(back) Subject: Re: Gounod piece From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:37:56 -0800   They were both Catholics? (grin)   Carlo Pietroniro wrote:   > I've heard that "Praise Ye The Father", otherwise known as "Marche = Romaine" > by Charles Gounod, has some kind of connection to the Vatican and the = pope. > Is this true, and if yes, what connection? > > Carlo > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org