PipeChat Digest #1784 - Monday, January 22, 2001
 
Bach on CDRom
  by "William T. Van Pelt III" <wvanpelt@erols.com>
RE: Pipe Dreams
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org>
Where to go to church in England
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Re: Where to go to church in England
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Where to go to church in England
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Where to go to church in England
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
Re: Where to go to church in England
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Danielwh
  by "DanielW Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Where to go to church in England
  by "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Danielwh
  by "Gary Blevins" <gsblvns@camalott.com>
Re: Danielwh / newspaper articles
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: Danielwh
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Danielwh
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Where to go to church in England
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  RE: pipe scales,ep chest rebuilding
  by "DanielW Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
Daniel's Interview
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Gospel Music -- HELP!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Where to go to church in England
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Where to go to church in England
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Where to go to church in England
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Bach on CDRom From: "William T. Van Pelt III" <wvanpelt@erols.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:00:56 -0500   Eric wrote: "Did you see the CDRom of Bach music. You can print the music right from your printer(laser would be best). OHS has it on sale of course to OHS members . . ."   Thanks for the endorsement, Eric. It is for sale to non-OHS members, too, as is everything in the OHS Catalog. Some items have a lower price for OHS members, others do not.   The BachCDRom is the very first item on the opening page at http://www.ohscatalog.org   Bill  
(back) Subject: RE: Pipe Dreams From: "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:18:20 -0800   THOSE OF YOU WITH INTERNET ACCESS CAN LISTEN TO SEVERAL MONTHS WORTH OF PIPEDREAMS BY GOING TO MPR.ORG AND clicking on Pipedreams. The quality isn't what you hear on the radio, but I use headphones and it becomes acceptable. If you don't have access to the internet and don't have a station they used to mail out tapes. Don't know if they will still do = this (for a fee, of course.)   Randy Terry   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Noel Stoutenburg Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 5:44 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Pipe Dreams         Donald Hinckley wrote:   > Kind Organists: The Maine Public Broadcasting has decided to surplus the only program I have been interested in hearing-Pipe Dreams. For years now, that company has tried to discourage us from listening the program by bouncing it around, forgetting it in favor of other (in my opinion) lesser ones. At last the company placed it at 10: to 11:30 on Sundays. So I have been recording it for many years. Now we have nothing. > My question: is there a way for me and other pipe organ mad-men to hear this program or something similiar by FM in Augusta Maine? = I note other programs mentioned occasionally. I wonder how I can access = these? I have simple E-mail; nothing more. Any answers? Thanks ahead for your interest.   Pipedreams is broadcast at 10:00 PM Central time over the internet by WRR, Dallas, TX. I believe this is a two week delay from the original = broadcast.   URL is <http://wrr101.com>     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Where to go to church in England From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:49:37 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0046_01C08482.8B08D280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Greetings listers,   My pastor/priest/whatever the Presbys call themselves asked me yesterday = =3D where one would go to a good worship service around London. He's =3D planning on visiting his daughter there in February. He doesn't seem to = =3D be interested in Westminster ("too crowded").=3D20   Any thoughts? Bob?   -Rebekah   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0046_01C08482.8B08D280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Greetings listers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>My pastor/priest/whatever the Presbys call =3D themselves asked me=3D20 yesterday where one would go to a good worship service around London. =3D He's=3D20 planning on visiting his daughter there in February. He doesn't seem to = =3D be=3D20 interested in Westminster ("too crowded"). </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Any thoughts? Bob?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>-Rebekah</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0046_01C08482.8B08D280--    
(back) Subject: Re: Where to go to church in England From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:11:35 -0500   Hi, Rebekah, and fellow listers,   Hampstead Parish Church comes to mind immediately which is very close to the Hampstead Underground station, followed closely by St.Marylebone Parish Church, close to the Royal Academy of Music in Marylebone Road, = the closest station would be Baker St. -both big churches, but not = overcrowded, - ever!   Both are middle of the road Church of England, - I don't know much about Presbyterian churches, being a C of E'er myself!   Best wishes,   Bob ... At 02:49 PM 2001-01-22 -0500, you wrote: >Greetings listers, > >My pastor/priest/whatever the Presbys call themselves asked me yesterday >where one would go to a good worship service around London. He's planning =   >on visiting his daughter there in February. He doesn't seem to be >interested in Westminster ("too crowded"). > >Any thoughts? Bob? > >-Rebekah     "Nunc Tutus Exitus Computaris" "It is safe now for you to turn off your computer"    
(back) Subject: Re: Where to go to church in England From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:16:00 -0800     --------------B6AB6EDC6988EB81F570F2D9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   All Saints', Margaret Street, but only if he's not allergic to incense (grin).   Actually, he'd probably like Temple Church better ...   Cheers,   Bud   Rebekah Ingram wrote:   > Greetings listers, My pastor/priest/whatever the Presbys call > themselves asked me yesterday where one would go to a good worship > service around London. He's planning on visiting his daughter there in > February. He doesn't seem to be interested in Westminster ("too > crowded"). Any thoughts? Bob? -Rebekah   --------------B6AB6EDC6988EB81F570F2D9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> All Saints', Margaret Street, but only if he's not allergic to incense (grin). <p>Actually, he'd probably like Temple Church better ... <p>Cheers, <p>Bud <p>Rebekah Ingram wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><style></style> <font size=3D-1>Greetings listers,</font>&nbsp;<font size=3D-1>My pastor/priest/whatever the Presbys call themselves asked me yesterday = where one would go to a good worship service around London. He's planning on visiting his daughter there in February. He doesn't seem to be interested in Westminster ("too crowded").</font>&nbsp;<font size=3D-1>Any thoughts? Bob?</font>&nbsp;<font size=3D-1>-Rebekah</font></blockquote>   </body> </html>   --------------B6AB6EDC6988EB81F570F2D9--    
(back) Subject: Re: Where to go to church in England From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:55:50 -0500   At 14:49 22/01/2001 -0500, Rebecca wrote: >Greetings listers, > >My pastor/priest/whatever the Presbys call themselves asked me yesterday >where one would go to a good worship service around London.     (SNIP)   For my 10 cents worth, I would plug for St. Peter's Eaton Square, which = is quite close to Buckingham Place. I believe many of the Palace household have membership in this Parish. It has so much going for it, a fine choir, a great Kenneth Jones organ and =   very excellent preaching plus a little smells and bells thrown in for good =   measure. They have a family service around 9 or 9 30AM , lots of children the day = I was there. The main service was about 10 30 or 11am I believe. And of course, sherry and fellowship afterwards !   HD    
(back) Subject: Re: Where to go to church in England From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:57:27 EST   Wesley's Chapel would be a good choice, if your pastor doesn't have = quibbles with denomination.    
(back) Subject: Danielwh From: "DanielW Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:07:15 -0400   > I got a call thismorning from the County Newspaper.They are coming to = interview me about My > Pipe Organ I have installed in my house.   Is there any tips I should know ,to be able to put a good word in for the = Pipe Organ. you never know , this might open peoples eyes torwards Pipe Organs in my area Long time Overdue. Please help me!!!!!!!!    
(back) Subject: Re: Where to go to church in England From: "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:06:12 -0500 (EST)   Or also Methodist Central Hall across the square from Westminster Abbey. It's where the United Nations was established. But if he goes to Wesley Chapel, then by all means he should walk across the street and into Bunhill Field Cemetery to see the grave of Isaac Watts, who with Charles Wesley were, to my thinking, the two greatest English language hymn text writers thus far.   Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 Innkawgneeto@cs.com wrote:   > Wesley's Chapel would be a good choice, if your pastor doesn't have = quibbles > with denomination. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Danielwh From: "Gary Blevins" <gsblvns@camalott.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:58:58 -0600   Hello Daniel, Don't panic. Keep the information limited to what appeals to people, generally. A = brief history of where that organ came from is good--no more than 20-30seconds = on the subject. Keep answers brief, so that the listeners don't become = bored. Don't go into technical aspects of the organ any more than what's asked specifically; if poeple want to know, they'll ask. Share a little about the joy of being involved with pipe organs as we have all experienced so = as to raise that little bit of curiosity in those who listen. I wish you best of luck in your interview, -Gary -----Original Message----- From: DanielW Hopkins <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Monday, January 22, 2001 3:13 PM Subject: Danielwh     >> I got a call thismorning from the County Newspaper.They are coming to interview me about My >> Pipe Organ I have installed in my house. > >Is there any tips I should know ,to be able to put a good word in for the Pipe Organ. you >never know , this might open peoples eyes torwards Pipe Organs in my area > Long time Overdue. > Please help me!!!!!!!! > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Danielwh / newspaper articles From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:45:46 EST   It would be a good idea to write up a fact sheet about the organ. I have = been involved with several newspaper articles about organs. If they can get anything wrong they will. If the organ has 20 ranks they will print that = it has 20 pipes. If you tell them that it has electric action they will call = it an electronic organ. Our local rag just did an article about a company = that makes computer controlled relay / combination actions and writer called it = "a device that restores organs". Keep in mind that the writer will probably = know absolutely nothing about organs or music. Tell them that it is the largest =   organ in the world, they always fall for that one. If there is any way = that you can persuade them to let you review the article before it goes to = print, do so.   Don't let too many people into the chambers. A writer and photographer = will probably be all that shows up. But, I once had an old tracker all pulled apart and carefully laid out in the sanctuary with the pipes in trays. I = was told that someone from the newspaper and the local historical society = would be looking at the project. Something like 20 people showed up and I was a nervous wreck. At one point the photographer jerked a tray out of the way = and a pipe hit the floor. It was all that I could do to control myself. = Luckily there was no serious damage.   Good luck:   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Re: Danielwh From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:53:11 EST     --part1_7d.fe708d7.279e21e7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/22/01 9:08:14 PM !!!First Boot!!!, danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca writes:     > > I got a call thismorning from the County Newspaper.They are coming to =   > interview me about My > > Pipe Organ I have installed in my house. > > Is there any tips I should know ,to be able to put a good word in for = the > Pipe Organ.   The main thing I would suggest is to present the organ as simple and accessible. I personally think that it is. The pipe organ holds great mystery for me, but it is all musical and tonal. The mechanics of the = pipe organ are very, very simple in their complexity. I think this would go = a long way in drawing in newbies.   You might also direct the interested to the pipe organ sites and lists on =   the internet, although you might not mention how snotty they can get! = ;-)   Bruce Cornely ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at < Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 >   --part1_7d.fe708d7.279e21e7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/22/01 9:08:14 PM !!!First Boot!!!, <BR>danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&gt; I got a call = thismorning from the &nbsp;County Newspaper.They are coming to <BR>interview me about My <BR>&gt; Pipe Organ I have installed in my house. <BR> <BR>Is there any tips I should know ,to be able to put a good word in for = the <BR>Pipe Organ. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>The main thing I would suggest is to present the organ as simple and <BR>accessible. &nbsp;&nbsp;I personally think that it is. &nbsp;The pipe = organ holds great <BR>mystery for me, but it is all musical and tonal. &nbsp;&nbsp;The = mechanics of the pipe <BR>organ are very, very simple in their complexity. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I = think this would go a <BR>long way in drawing in newbies. <BR> <BR>You might also direct the &nbsp;interested to the pipe organ sites and = lists on <BR>the internet, although you might not mention how snotty they can get! = &nbsp;&nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce Cornely &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ &nbsp;Cremona502@cs.com &nbsp; <BR>with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo Bohawow!" <BR>Visit Howling Acres at &lt; &nbsp;Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&gt;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7d.fe708d7.279e21e7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Danielwh From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:35:44 EST   I am in agreement with various list members that your approach should be direct and factual, focusing on the musical aspects of the organ and its secular possibilities.   I cannot overemphasize how important it is to try to review what they = write before it goes to print. One list member was quite correct in saying that = if they could get something wrong, they would. They are also fond of making things up that are very embarrassing and impossible to live down. I had = an article written about me a few years ago in an historic preservation = journal, and after TWO rewrites, the reporter STILL got most of the facts wrong; = the editor and I finally sat down and turned it into something factual and readable.   ONE CAVEAT: Part of your mission is to let people know that ANYBODY can appreciate the organ, for its technology, its music, its variety, its novelty. Let them know that the organ has, for many centuries, been the = King of Instruments, and not just in the Church, but in the Concert Hall and Cinema as well. In American motion picture palaces, the organ was = essential to our popular culture in that era. PLEASE do NOT give people the = impression that "anybody can build an organ." This idea has destroyed countless = great organs, some of them significant historic monuments, and has ruined the opportunities for many congregations to get fine organs, because somebody = was operating under the delusion that organbuilding is something other than = fine art and craftsmanship, coupled with musicianship.   Best of luck with this -- and one list member's idea of providing a fact sheet might not be such a bad idea, of time and nerves provide.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: Where to go to church in England From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:43:48 EST   Try The West London Synagogue's organ and choir -- quite a Saturday = morning service if you hit it on the right repertoire. Beautifully restored building, magnificent four-manual job with fine upperwork, exceptional = reeds, and a Tuba to beat the band.   Two great organs in London: Westminster RC Cathedral (Willis) and = Southwark Cathedral (an astounding Lewis). If you get to Cambridge, King's College Chapel is a must; great organ, peerless room and choir, although some whisper that the Saint John's College choir is better, but less known = because they don't have the famous acoustic and organ.   Amazing Willis at Saint Dominic's Priory --   Brompton Oratory in London also has some over-the-top choral music, and a VERY significant postwar pipe organ. Lots of fine, old a capella music, although on one occasion I was there for Mass and they actually performed = the entire Lord Nelson Mass of Haydn as the liturgy! Saint Paul's and The = Abbey are always good for evensong.   Coventry may be the most moving place to see the effects of war -- I don't =   know about the organ or the choir.   SMG  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] RE: pipe scales,ep chest rebuilding From: "DanielW Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:06:46 -0400   Its funny Of my wentire province where there are a numerous amount of Pipe Organs, = My county as far as I know , is the only one not to have any pipe organs = except for mine    
(back) Subject: Daniel's Interview From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:31:16 EST     --part1_ee.101edf23.279e46f4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/22/2001 4:08:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca writes:     > Are there any tips I should know to be able to put a good word in for = the > Pipe Organ   Daniel,   Good for you for taking this on. One thing about the Pipe Organ that has always struck me is the following:   Even though it has an enormous body of concert music, those people who = attend churches know the instrument perhaps most intimately as something they = sing with, and I venture to say that most of us organists get, if not the = greatest thrill, certainly a very powerful pleasure out of accompanying the sound = of human voices. A regular comment at OHS conventions, one of which you = happily attended last summer, has always been heard in purrs of pleasure at the = fact that hymns are always sung at the concerts, and there are so often further =   comments about how thrilling that singing always is. To me, there is something almost mystical in that, having to do with the fact that a Pipe Organ sounds on a sheet of wind, just as do we, and when you put human = voices together with air breathing pipes, there is a wonderful connection made. =   Show those people the lungs (bellows), and the mouth and the lips and the tongue (languid) and they may understand something more of our instrument.   Perhaps you can give them a picture of you pumping the bellows at = Wellesley, if you ever got a hold of a good one. They would probably print it.   Have fun tomorrow. Be not afraid!   All the best,   Malcolm   --part1_ee.101edf23.279e46f4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 1/22/2001 4:08:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Are there any tips = I should know to be able to put a good word in for the <BR>Pipe Organ</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Daniel, <BR> <BR>Good for you for taking this on. One thing about the Pipe Organ that = has <BR>always struck me is the following: <BR> <BR>Even though it has an enormous body of concert music, those people who = attend <BR>churches know the instrument perhaps most intimately as something they = sing <BR>with, and I venture to say that most of us organists get, if not the = greatest <BR>thrill, certainly a very powerful pleasure out of accompanying the = sound of <BR>human voices. A regular comment at OHS conventions, one of which you = happily <BR>attended last summer, has always been heard in purrs of pleasure at = the fact <BR>that hymns are always sung at the concerts, and there are so often = further <BR>comments about how thrilling that singing always is. To me, there is <BR>something almost mystical in that, having to do with the fact that a = Pipe <BR>Organ sounds on a sheet of wind, just as do we, and when you put human = voices <BR>together with air breathing pipes, there is a wonderful connection = made. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>Show those people the lungs (bellows), and the mouth and the lips and = the <BR>tongue (languid) and they may understand something more of our = instrument. <BR> <BR>Perhaps you can give them a picture of you pumping the bellows at = Wellesley, <BR>if you ever got a hold of a good one. They would probably print it. <BR> <BR>Have fun tomorrow. Be not afraid! <BR> <BR>All the best, <BR> <BR>Malcolm </FONT></HTML>   --part1_ee.101edf23.279e46f4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Gospel Music -- HELP! From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:06:30 EST   In a message dated 1/22/01 12:26:59 AM Central Standard Time, Ray_Ahrens@msn.com writes:   << Tit for tat? No wonder you have a hard time working in the church. = While the interim pastor was less than professional (according to your = postings), be the better person as well as a Christian and worship God next Sunday. Revenge has no place in the worship service. >>   Ray,   I would rather do this in private; however, since you did post your reply = to the list I'll post my response to the list....   I take offense at your patronizing attitude towards me. I posted a = SERIOUS request in all sincerity. If you are unable to help or choose not too = that is fine. But I must object to your flame... the list is not the place for =   it. As long as I am the resident organist/choirmaster at my church I = shall schedule music as I see fit unless I am told to do otherwise by the Pastor = or the Worship/Music Committee Chairperson. Perhaps I was out of line by posting this request to this group and if so I am heartily sorry.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Where to go to church in England From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:22:16 EST   St. Margaret's Church, London (beside the Abbey); Temple Church, London; = St. Giles Church, Cripplegate, London; St. Magnus the Martyr, London; The = Chapel Royal, St. Jameses Palace, London; St. Paul's Cathedral, London; Salisbury =   Cathedral, Salisbury; Canterbury Cathedral, Canterbury; St. Mildred's = Church, Whippingham, Isle of Wight, UK, (Prince Albert designed it), Sandringham Church, the Royal Estate of Sandringham, UK), St. Giles Cathedral, = Edinburgh, Scotland; etc... These are a few of my favorite things...! Sorry, I got carried away.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Where to go to church in England From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:24:18 EST   And don't forget about Spurgeon's Church. Metropolitan something (the = true name escapes me now). Sorry.   Neil  
(back) Subject: Re: Where to go to church in England From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:27:18 EST   In a message dated 1/22/01 2:58:55 PM Central Standard Time, Innkawgneeto@cs.com writes:   << Wesley's Chapel would be a good choice, if your pastor doesn't have quibbles with denomination. >>   OOPS, I forgot about Wesley Chapel, London.... I have a Great Aunt who's = on a committee of some sort there.... However, I've never been in the church = nor heard the organ... I've only given recommendations of the best churches = with the best organs that I've heard/played there.   John   John