PipeChat Digest #1793 - Monday, January 29, 2001
 
Re: slider, pitman, electro-mechanical
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Moller Chests
  by "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com>
Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Moller Chests
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Moller Chests
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Moller V/205 Info & Specs now online
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute
  by "Robert Ehrhardt" <r_ehrh@bellsouth.net>
Re: Moller V/205 Info & Specs now online
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
(off-topis) viruses
  by "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com>
Re: (off-topis) viruses
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
ALL READ!!!  Re: (off-topis) viruses
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
This is a test
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
One more Note about Snow White
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: This is a test
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: This is a test
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1791 - 01/27/01
  by "Robert F. Ziegler" <rfziegler@ync.net>
[X-POST] USC boots Barone
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: slider, pitman, electro-mechanical From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:41:50 -0600   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: The only thing I REALLY want to unify is the Trompette, and add > the 16' octave to it. After all, the organ IS completely straight now, > except for the Pedal extensions and borrows.   So far as the existing 61 notes of the Trompette are concerned, all is necessary is to stop off a few channeling holes in the chest under the existing toeboard and convert the Trompette from pitman to unit electro-pneumatic operation. You would, of course, have to allow for this to the solid state relay. I assume you will be wanting to solid state the relay in any case, since M=F6ller electro-pneumatic relays are notoriously unreliable and difficult to restore. You would then just need to add a 12-note chest for the bass.   John Speller  
(back) Subject: Moller Chests From: "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:22:05 -0500   <html> <P>This is similar to Bud's situation.</P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">I have (or the church I play = for) has a 1913 M.P.Moller 2/20 organ.</FONT></P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Moller, in the teen's, used = TP action.&nbsp; This organ also had their Bar-and-membrane = chests.</FONT></P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">The music committee is trying = to influence the church to rebuild, enlarge, and update the organ.&nbsp; = What chests should be used?&nbsp; Considering new.&nbsp; Or should we not = even bother getting new chests?&nbsp; Just releather the existing = ones?</FONT></P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Plans for additions is a 16/8 = Violone or Gemshorn unit on the Great and Pedal and a 16/8 Swell/16/8/4 = Pedal Trumpet Unit.&nbsp; </FONT></P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Not to mention the manual = chests are presently Swell above Great on the same side of the = chamber.</FONT></P> <P>Opinions???&nbsp; Options???</P> <P>Jason Comet</P><br clear=3Dall><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN = Explorer at <a = href=3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html>=    
(back) Subject: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:46:38 EST   Hello everyone,   I wanted to let everyone know how Pastor Howard's last Sunday went at Oak Cliff Lutheran Church, Dallas. As many of you know, Pastor Howard and I = have worked together for over six years between two parishes and we have known each other for more than eight years. Because of our long association and =   friendship I have come to know some of his most hated hymns. Now, granted =   that Pastor Howard and myself have had differences in the past I still respect and value him. Therefore, I put together a choral tribute in his honor, for this Sunday, which included his least favorite hymns.   Let me start by saying that he most hates Amazing Grace... So, for the prelude I played Diane Bish's arrangement of it (the jazzy piece in her orange book). I was unable to find the music for "Life is Like a Mountain =   Railway"; however, thanks to the efforts of a list member I did obtain "There's a Church in the Valley". So, the anthem consisted of "In the = Sweet By and By", "Amazing Grace", and "There's a Church in the Valley" (AKA = "The Little Brown Church in The Wildwood") complete with simple modulations, interludes, and descants. A few of the sopranos nearly lost it when we = began "There's a Church in the Valley" because they we're giggling at Pastor's reaction... He stood up, left the chancel, and joined the acolytes on the first pew and began swaying to and fro. After our choral tribute was completed the congregation clapped (which RARELY happens at our church) = and Pastor Howard thanked myself and the choir for a job well done. Then he explained to the congregation that those were three of his most disliked hymns and he was fully amused. He also stated that he would miss working with me because he never knows what I have up my sleeve and that I was a = dear friend who would be missed. Likewise, I shouted from the loft the same sentiments and then worship resumed.   Incidentally, I video taped the entire service from the choir loft hoping = to see his reactions during the choral tribute. Unfortunately, I didn't have =   the low light setting on and I couldn't make out his facial expressions = upon reviewing the tape; however, he was twitching quite a bit before he joined =   the acolytes in their antics ;-). After the service I received a number = of compliments and suggestions that we do more of that type of music.... OH = my, have I created a monster now?   It is fun to let one's hair down every now and then... I only wish that I = had enough left to let down!   John A. Gambill, Jr. Organist/Choirmaster Oak Cliff Lutheran Church Dallas, TX  
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Chests From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:18:06 -0600   Jason Comet wrote: > > This is similar to Bud's situation. > > I have (or the church I play for) has a 1913 M.P.Moller 2/20 organ. > > Moller, in the teen's, used TP action. This organ also had their > Bar-and-membrane chests. > > The music committee is trying to influence the church to rebuild, > enlarge, and update the organ. What chests should be used? > Considering new. Or should we not even bother getting new chests? > Just releather the existing ones?   It is not a good idea even to attempt to releather bar-and-membrane Moller chests. The problem with them is that unlike Moller pitman chests the tension in the leather is of critical importance and this is subject to change under different atmospheric conditions. This makes the action unreliable. Even if it were satisfactorily restored, the bar-and-membrane chest is very unkind to pipe speech, makinbg it yelp rather like a very early wicks direct electric.   My advice in this situation would be that of Seb Gluck to Bud, and get new Blackinton style slider chests. For the benefit of the uninitiated, these are quite unlike the traditional tracker slider chest in their construction. They have chest tables made of a composition material that can never crack, stable melanine sliders, and toeboards of butcher's block construction, made in such a way that the grains running in different directions cancel out atmospheric changes. The result is a chest that ought never to crack and and ought never to need its sliders refitting. Furthermore, the use of pneumatic pallets -- rather like pneumatic pouches -- makes the action much faster than a traditional pallet, and produces a speed of operation comparable with a Skinner pitman chest. Slider chests with pneumatic pallets were also found in some organs built by Casavant in the 1890's and Holtkamp in the 1930's, but the new structure of the chest is new to Blackinton. A number of builders beside Lyle Blackinton in California are now producing this style of chest, including us at Quimby Pipe Organs.   How far you will wish to re-use the old Moller pipework in your rebuilt instrument, and how far you might wish to revoice or replace it, would depend on how much you like the sound of your existing organ.   John Speller  
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Chests From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:14:48 -0800   At 01:22 PM 1/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Just releather the existing ones?<snip>   Releathering M=F6ller bar and membrane chests is a lost art. I know of no= =20 one that has successfully releathered these without having several=20 "callbacks" to fix things afterwards, a potentially expensive proposition=20 for what you get. The solution I'd investigate would be the same one I'd=20 suggested for BuuD-by-the-Beach...go with EM and solid state=20 relay. Hanging on to bar and membrane chests in their original form is an= =20 exercise in futility.   DeserTBiB    
(back) Subject: Re: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:34:24 -0800   At 01:46 PM 1/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: >So, for the prelude I played Diane Bish's arrangement of it (the jazzy >piece in her orange book).<snip>   <urp!>   >I was unable to find the music for "Life is Like a Mountain >Railway"<snip>   <URP!>   >So, the anthem consisted of "In the Sweet By and By", "Amazing Grace", = and >"There's a Church in the Valley" (AKA "The Little Brown Church in The >Wildwood") complete with simple modulations, >interludes, and descants.<snip>   <URRRRRRP!>   >He stood up, left the chancel, and joined the acolytes on the first pew >and began swaying to and fro.<snip>   Sometimes people do that to stave off impending nausea...as I am now...   >Unfortunately, I didn't have the low light setting on and I couldn't make =   >out his facial expressions upon reviewing the tape<snip>   In low light, green sometimes doesn't videotape well...as I'm pretty sure his face was quite this color by then!   >After the service I received a number of compliments and suggestions that =   >we do more of that type of music.... OH my, have I created a monster = now?<snip>   NOW you've done it! They'll want MORE! You ARE in Texas, yanno!   Thanks for a wonderful story! It's great when you can enjoy yourself and poke fun at the pastor at the same time!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Moller V/205 Info & Specs now online From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 15:26:26 -0800   At 04:53 PM 1/27/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Comprehensive information and a complete stoplist, the drawknob layout,=20 >and photos of the Calvary Grand Organ (Calvary Church, Charlotte NC) 1990= =20 >Moller V/205 is now online from my website, launched today.<snip>   Hokey SMOKES! A 21 1/3' Grave Diapente in the pedal!!! What use this has= =20 can only be to make 64' flue resultants, or perhaps provide supporting=20 third harmonic for the '64 pedal reed...<gasp!!>   Thanks for this site. TRULY fascinating. Even has a unified tibia and=20 kinura rank! Where's the drawknob for the "kitchen sink"?? This baby's=20 got EVERYTHING! Surely publishing the control layout like this is=20 invaluable to visiting players, assuming they know about it.   I think I shall order one of Dan's CDs to get an earful of this. Has=20 anyone else made any recordings of this instrument? The only things I've=20 heard is one of Her Bishness' show with the typically awful audio, surely=20 not giving the instrument any justice. What I did hear of it pointed=20 towards a M=F6ller company, although teetering on closure, that had done= much=20 to make up for its tonal sins of the past...which were considerable.   Thanks again for a very well laid out and informative site.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:38:32 EST   In a message dated 1/28/01 4:43:34 PM Central Standard Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << Thanks for a wonderful story! It's great when you can enjoy yourself = and poke fun at the pastor at the same time! >>   Thanks Bob... I was shocked by how tastefully it came together... even = with an occasional tremulant thrown in. ;-)  
(back) Subject: Re: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute From: "Robert Ehrhardt" <r_ehrh@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:09:37 -0600     ----- Original Message ----- From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:46 PM Subject: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute     > After the service I received a number of > compliments and suggestions that we do more of that type of music.... OH my, > have I created a monster now? > Same sort of thing has happened to me - I've created a MIDI monster. A = year or so back the church acquired a new Roland synthesizer and, when the = annual youth led service rolled around (seems I'm the only old fogey they can't = get along without), I thought it would be fun to hook it up to the organ and = do something "youthful" for a postlude. I found this looped dance beat sound and let loose with a rock 'n' roll toccata.   I thought the kids would think it fun, but even the bluehaired ladies went crazy over it. I've had to repeat it several times (even as a wedding recessional!) and had to do it again today as it was once again Youth = Sunday   After church one of the kids asked me if it was available for downloading from Napster! Ya' never know!   Robert Ehrhardt Noel Mem. UMC Shreveport, LA   > > John A. Gambill, Jr. > Organist/Choirmaster > Oak Cliff Lutheran Church > Dallas, TX      
(back) Subject: Re: Moller V/205 Info & Specs now online From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:23:44 EST   I have one of Dan Miller's CDs on this organ and it is, to my mind, quite = a deluxe smorgasbord! His fanfare introduction to the Bridal Chorus is especially grand.   DudelK Washington, DC  
(back) Subject: Re: Pastor Howard's Choral Tribute From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:48:16 EST   In a message dated 1/28/01 6:10:03 PM Central Standard Time, r_ehrh@bellsouth.net writes:   << After church one of the kids asked me if it was available for = downloading from Napster! >>   Robert,   That gave me a good belly laugh! Holy Cow, Napster..... if that happened = I wonder if the AGO would burn your membership card? :-)   Keep up the good work and good luck.... Napster or not!   John  
(back) Subject: (off-topis) viruses From: "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:24:26 -0500   <html> <P>Has someone on the list been e-mailed the Snow White = messges/viruses???&nbsp; I've had two just today!&nbsp; Of course I delete = them before opening them...</P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">If someone has been e-mailed = it and opened it, I suggest they fix it!&nbsp; </FONT></P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Since pipechat goes through a = seperate account of mine, I know it's not someone I e-mail personally... = since I have a seperate account for that.</FONT></P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">PLEASE fix it if someone has = it.</FONT></P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Thank you,</FONT></P> <P><FONT style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Jason Comet</FONT></P><br = clear=3Dall><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a = href=3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html>=    
(back) Subject: Re: (off-topis) viruses From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:46:37 -0500     --------------B280866D677A6F2F9CF276FD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Mike Gettelman wrote:   Hi Jason The Pipechat server is not the source or we all would have all gotten it. I have an email stashed in a folder that I got last November that has this virus attached. Although I have never opened the attachment, I did scan it with my virus program which identified the virus immediately. It goes to show that a virus program is an absolute no brainer if you are going on the Internet.   Mike Gettelman < whose head is hung in off-topic apology>   Jason Comet wrote:   > > > Has someone on the list been e-mailed the Snow White > messges/viruses??? I've had two just today! Of course I delete them > before opening them... > > If someone has been e-mailed it and opened it, I suggest they fix it! > > Since pipechat goes through a seperate account of mine, I know it's > not someone I e-mail personally... since I have a seperate account for > that. > > PLEASE fix it if someone has it. > > Thank you, > > Jason Comet > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: > mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   --------------B280866D677A6F2F9CF276FD Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Mike Gettelman wrote: <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hi Jason <br>The Pipechat server is not the source or we all would have all gotten it. I have an email stashed in a folder that I got last November that has this virus attached. Although I have never opened the attachment, I did scan it with my virus program which identified the virus immediately. It goes to show that a virus program is an absolute no brainer if you are going on the Internet. <p>Mike Gettelman &lt; whose head is hung in off-topic apology> <p>Jason Comet wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>&nbsp; <p>Has someone on the list been e-mailed the Snow White = messges/viruses???&nbsp; I've had two just today!&nbsp; Of course I delete them before opening = them... <p>If someone has been e-mailed it and opened it, I suggest they fix it! <p>Since pipechat goes through a seperate account of mine, I know it's not someone I e-mail personally... since I have a seperate account for that. <p>PLEASE fix it if someone has it. <p>Thank you, <p>Jason Comet <br> <hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a = href=3D"http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a> <br>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; related topics HOMEPAGE : <A = HREF=3D"http://www.pipechat.org">http://www.pipechat.org</A> List: <A = HREF=3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org</A> Administration: <A = HREF=3D"mailto:admin@pipechat.org">mailto:admin@pipechat.org</A> = Subscribe/Unsubscribe: <A = HREF=3D"mailto:requests@pipechat.org">mailto:requests@pipechat.org</A></blo= ckquote> </html>   --------------B280866D677A6F2F9CF276FD--    
(back) Subject: ALL READ!!! Re: (off-topis) viruses From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:59:12 -0600   At 8:24 PM -0500 1/28/01, Jason Comet wrote: >Has someone on the list been e-mailed the Snow White >messges/viruses??? I've had two just today! Of course I delete >them before opening them... > >If someone has been e-mailed it and opened it, I suggest they fix it! > >Since pipechat goes through a seperate account of mine, I know it's >not someone I e-mail personally... since I have a seperate account >for that.   Folks   This is completely off-topic. As mentioned in the list guidelines, if you think there is a problem with a virus you are to email the Administrators NOT the list.   And to answer your question Jason, someone on the list has been affected by the SnowWhite virus which automatically sends itself out to people in the address book of the affected computer. The virus has been sent to the list HOWEVER, it is blocked since it comes from an address other than the address of the affected member. So if you have received it, it means that your address is in that person's address book.   Of course, if you are on the Net you should be practicing "safe computing" by having one of the anti-virus programs monitoring all your incoming emails.   Now, let us drop this topic and go back to happy PipeChatting   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: This is a test From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:10:13 -0600   I know that according to the rules Test posts are not allowed but I am making an exception in my own case. Am testing something relating to the virus posts that some people seem to have been getting.   Once we get more information we will most more about it.   Sorry for the intrusion.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: One more Note about Snow White From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:41:57 -0600   Folks   I "think" we have found the person with the virus and he has been removed, for the time being, from the list.   We are gathering that there is a new permutation of the virus that instead of sending to addresses in an address book it is actually sending out the virus to the "From" addresses in received emails. That was the reason for my test post a bit earlier - to see if i get the virus sent to me. But in my case it is blocked at the mail server I use although it will show up in the Error Log so I felt OK sending out that test.   Hopefully, we have taken care of the problem for the members of this list. But may I remind you all again, that you need to practice "safe computing" and have an up-to-date Anti-Virus program running at all times on your machine. And NEVER, NEVER open an attachment unless you know EXACTLY what it is and who it is from.   Hope you all have a great week and now back to Happy PipeChatting   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: This is a test From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:58:33 EST   In a message dated 1/28/01 11:10:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, david@blackiris.com writes:   << I know that according to the rules Test posts are not allowed but I am making an exception in my own case. Am testing something relating to the virus posts that some people seem to have been getting. Once we get more information we will most more about it. Sorry for the intrusion. David >>   I think you admonished me the last time I did a test and I deserved it. I simply forgot and apologize. I sometimes get stupid attacks. Just ask my accountant, or wife, or the cops or .. nevermind. I got the Snow White e = mail about two weeks ago and deleted it. I have no idea where it came from or = why the sender would think that anyone would fall for it after it has been exposed for so long. I hope you have caught the rascal.   A  
(back) Subject: Re: This is a test From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:24:00 EST   In a message dated 1/29/01 4:10:41 AM !!!First Boot!!!, = david@blackiris.com writes:   << I know that according to the rules Test posts are not allowed but I am making an exception in my own case. Am testing something relating to the virus posts that some people seem to have been getting. >>   Test away! I've gotten almost two a day of the stupid thing! = Fortunately, my 'puter is wearing protection!! ;-)   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1791 - 01/27/01 From: "Robert F. Ziegler" <rfziegler@ync.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:29:12 -0600   on 1/27/01 7:06 PM, randy terry" <randyterryus@yahoo.com> wrote in = PipeChat Digest #1791:     > The new Schoenstien console at Grace Cathedral has a > rev. piston for the swell simply marked "S." > > Basically once engaged you can play a cluster and the > chord will be sustained until you play a new one or > turn the sustenuto off by pressing the piston again. > Yes, it simply frees up both hands to play on another > manual and it is not at all useful in any standard > literature, but it is fun and not cost prohibitive.   Wow, I thought everyone knew what a sostenuto was. I don't think a theater organist would be caught dead without one; at least an wannabe like me wouldn't! ;)     -- Bob Ziegler rfziegler@ync.net AIM: zieglerbob99 MSN: zieglerbob99 Yahoo: zieglerbob     Playing in the key of "off" (and sometimes "L") in beautiful downtown = Sauk Village, Illinois      
(back) Subject: [X-POST] USC boots Barone From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:20:03 -0800   ORGAN MUSIC DUMPED FOR ORCHESTRAL SLUSH   KUSC, the University of Southern California's NPR FM outlet in Los Angeles =   at 91.5 MHz, unceremoniously dumped Michael Barone's "Pipedreams" December =   31, 2000 after several years run. This was part of a "reprogramming" effort by KUSC that's been noticed in other areas of public radio lately = as well to make the stations appear more like commercial FM stations than public radio outlets. The new KUSC format is "all the hits, all the time" =   orchestral slush. Certainly, "Pipedreams" is a specialized program, sometimes with specialized content even for an organ music show, but it at =   least featured original recordings from new organists and featured a wide variety of literature and instruments. Certainly, the Sunday, 9-10:30 PM timeslot was hardly "AM drive time"! Thus, one can now tune in KUSC and get orchestral Slurpees 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.   This move leaves MPR's "Pipedreams" with NO California outlet at all! = Even Dothan, Alabama carries it...but major markets like LA? Nope! Evidently KUSC's sponsors (they call them "corporate underwriters" to differentiate them from the commercial stations, ya know) didn't care for such diversity. Also, note how "Pipedreams" got sacked from this and other NPR =   stations after "sponsorship" got taken over by the APOBA...hmmmm! Thus, I =   must rely on unreliable RealAudio playbacks, hardly a substitute for my aged but very good audio system. For a crass explanation by KUSC "PD" of their reasoning, see:   http://www.kusc.org/Changes.html   ....and see what other worthwhile programs have been dumped.   Giving KUSC a Bronx cheer (even if I'm an LA native),   DeserTBoB