PipeChat Digest #2189 - Monday, July 2, 2001
 
Re: Dan's Errors
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>
Re: Rodgers
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>
Re: Rodgers
  by "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@qwest.net>
Re: Rodgers
  by <Mick709@aol.com>
ADMIN POST -- PLEASE READ!!
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: Dan's Errors
  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
New Organ-Gift to my church
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Re: More requests for things...
  by "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
RE: New Organ-Gift to my church
  by "Dan Gawthrop" <Gawthrop@dunstanhouse.com>
Re: Rodgers
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Dan's Errors
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
RE: Rodgers
  by "Dan Gawthrop" <Gawthrop@dunstanhouse.com>
Re: Alternatives to Bach d minor (mit BWV numbers)
  by "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
Re: Dan's Errors
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
rebuild
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: information needed
  by "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com>
Re: Looking for........
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Please FLUSH after use...
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Dan's Errors From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 15:02:58 -0500   In 1980 I purchased an Allen 301 for my home for approximately $22,000. In 1989, I sold this organ to a local church for $25,000 less a $1,500 = trade-in of their elderly Hammond C-3. I feel that my Allens at least have held = their value rather well.   By the way, have you looked recently at the trade-in or re-sale value of pipe organs. Now that's shocking!   Russ Greene   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D     On 7/1/01 7:39 PM, John L. Speller wrote:   > Robert Hullem wrote: > >> Unfortunately, Allen dealers are known to offer as little as $1,200 to >> $2,000 for these organs on trade when churches want to upgrade, organs = that >> originally cost $12,000 to $22,000. This lack of residual value when = quoted >> by the dealer drives purchasers away from the product. > > It is my understanding that dealers get a fixed percentage of the cost = of a > new > organ from the manufacturer as their commission on the sale. Fair = enough. > When, however, they give a trade-in price for a secondhand instrument, = they > have > to pay this out of the money they receive as commission. If you were a > dealer, > would this encourage you to give a good trade-in price?    
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 15:32:16 -0500   Indeed, the company is guaranteeing precisely nothing in this completely ad-speak, mom-and-apple-pie passage. In fact, this statement could be used to illustrate how to hype customers about guarantees while absolutely avoiding legal liability. Rodgers is better than this - I can only assume that somewhere there is a real, legally binding statement of their commitment.   Russ Greene   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D     On 7/2/01 6:50 AM, MFoxy9795@aol.com wrote:   >> The Total Quality program at the Rodgers factory is one reason for our >> unmatched reliability. We are continually refining our designs and = quality >> control procedures. All of our products are designed to exceed the >> requirements of domestic and international safety standards and >> electromagnetic interference. Our outstanding warranties are backed by = an >> extensive, well-trained service network. Technical documentation, = on-site >> board replacement and built-in, self-diagnostic systems insure timely, >> expert service. A full-time staff of technical service experts are > available >> to assist your local Rodgers technician. We support every instrument = we > have >> ever built and are committed to continuing our excellent record of >> reliability and service. >> >> Like I said, I don't swing towards any particular company, but I felt = the >> need to post this, so some people will realize that Allen isn't the = only >> company to have certain guarantees. This information can easily be = obtained >> from the Rodgers Instrument Corp. > > unless i'm missing something in reading this, i do not see where they = are > GUARANTEEING anything.    
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers From: "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@qwest.net> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 14:30:48 -0700   >>We support every instrument we have >> ever built and are committed to continuing our excellent record of >> reliability and service.   >unless i'm missing something in reading this, i do not see where they are GUARANTEEING anything.   Personal experience -- they DO stand behind the organs. I own a 33e now, = and have owned a Trio in the past -- both organs a bit long in the tooth -- I have never had a problem with the factory in getting parts or information.   The 33e does have core memory in it, and my understanding is that stuff = just isn't available from Rodgers anymore -- but other than that, they have = never let me down (on the other hand, the organ has spare cores in it, and I've been told they don't fail.)   Dennis      
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers From: <Mick709@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:45:20 EDT     --part1_f.169767f6.28724570_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Ummm, I am new to this list and perhaps I am missing something but is 4 = days of "I'm right - -YOU are wrong!" in regards to the Allen organ really necessary???( and I am sure its not over) And secondly - -isnt this called =   PIPEchat?     I will await the storm of angry replies.   Christopher McCloskey   --part1_f.169767f6.28724570_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Ummm, I am new to this list and perhaps I am missing something = but is 4 days <BR>of "I'm right - -YOU are wrong!" in regards to the Allen organ really <BR>necessary???( and I am sure its not over) And secondly - -isnt this = called <BR>PIPEchat? <BR> <BR> <BR>I will await the storm of angry replies. <BR> <BR>Christopher McCloskey</FONT></HTML>   --part1_f.169767f6.28724570_boundary--  
(back) Subject: ADMIN POST -- PLEASE READ!! From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 17:13:28 -0500   Perhaps some of you have overlooked my Admin post earlier this afternoon (where I admittedly did not put "admin" in the subject line), so I repeat it again -- just to be certain that everyone sees it.   Tim Bovard Pipechat Co-Administrator   ---------------------------------------------- RE: "Allen Protege'","Dan's errors", "Rodgers", and whatever various other subject lines spawned forth in response to the original question:   At 09:37 AM 7/2/01 -0400, Jim writes: >As the one responsible for opening this can of worms in asking about the >Allen Protege', let me state that my questions have been answered. I do = not >accept any responsibility for the on-going autopsy of claims and >counterclaims spinning off from my original post. Now I regret posting = the >original question. :-)   Greetings, Pipechatters!   Since Jim feels he has a proper answer to his question, I think that it's time for the *rest* of us to let this line of discussion go as well. Thanks Jim, for asking the question originally (that *is* what we all belong to the list to *do*, after all!) and thank you ALL for your = civility towards each other while talking about what is obviously a subject that elicits strong and various opinions.   Now, back to our regularly scheduled Pipechatting....! :-)   Tim Bovard Pipechat Co-Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> <tmbovard@arkansas.net>    
(back) Subject: Re: Dan's Errors From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:58:23 -0400   Dear Bob,   I'm afraid you have gotten the wrong person. I'm Douglas CAMPBELL - not Douglas Morgan !       Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY     On Mon, 02 Jul 2001 20:44:01 +0800 Bob Elms <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> writes: > Dear Douglas, > That advertisement that must have been about the time of the > patenting > by Laurens Hammond and must have been one of the first adverts of > the > instrument. > I happen to know the date as 1935 because I wrote a thesis on the > organ > in 1961 as part of my tertiary education and researched the subject > extensively. I also heard one of the early Hammonds in the 1930s > (probably in 1939) as the Australian Broadcasting Commission in > Perth > West Australia owned one, and there used to be broadcasts of organ > recitals using it on a regular basis. I remember that it sounded > ghastly > - hard in tone, and, as the output of the organ was fed directly > into > the modulator of the AM transmitter it had no help from a room. > There is no doubt about the date 1935; it was never in dispute > anywhere > in my reading on the subject. > I don't know where the 1928 date comes into the picture unless it > was > the date of one of the photo-electric cell organs which predated > Hammond's invention. I think there was a Frenchman did some work > with > one some time pre 1930 but I am not sure of the date. Those > instruments > were only of academic interest anyway as they never really came to > anything in the end. > Bob Elms. > douglas morgan wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Elms: > > > > If you will go to a library and get a copy of The > > Diapason for 1935 (June, I think), you will find an ad > > with a picture of Lauren Hammond's invention. I don't > > know exactly when it was patented. > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >   ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.  
(back) Subject: New Organ-Gift to my church From: <Posthorn8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:46:03 EDT     --part1_71.f2f92b2.287253ab_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hello Everyone, I wanted to share this good news with you. We have been trying to raise = money in my church (St. Salomes, Rochester, NY) for a new organ. The church building seats 500 and we have about 900 people over the three weekend liturgies. We have done all sorts of fun fundraisers. I even cut a 40 = minute CD on my home computer with a Yamaha keyboard of favorite hymns that we = sold for $15.00 each. So far we have raised about $3,000. I received a phone = call last week from a friend in the parish who is the retired head of the Piano =   Department of a university which will remain nameless for obvious reasons. = He told me he was ready, willing, and able to write a check for $30,000 = for the new instrument. Praise be to God! We do not have room for pipes so it is going to be an electronic = instrument. We have heard the Allen R-270 and are VERY impressed. It will be installed = in September. I have insisted that the speakers be put in small chambers and = not just hung on the wall. It will have the bass speakers and full antiphonal =   also. Father is bringing in an architect to do just that. The new Allen = will replace an old Rodgers (still working fine) that was installed when the building was put up in 1969. I hesitated to post this just after the flame war over electronic instruments. However, those of you who want to rejoice with me, please do = so. I really hate to say this but the rest of you, please keep your comments = to yourself.   Tim   --part1_71.f2f92b2.287253ab_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hello Everyone, <BR>I wanted to share this good news with you. We have been trying to = raise money <BR>in my church (St. Salomes, Rochester, NY) for a new organ. The church <BR>building seats 500 and we have about 900 people over the three weekend = &nbsp; <BR>liturgies. We have done all sorts of fun fundraisers. I even cut a 40 = minute <BR>CD on my home computer with a Yamaha keyboard of favorite hymns that = we sold <BR>for $15.00 each. So far we have raised about $3,000. &nbsp;I received = a phone call <BR>last week from a friend in the parish who is the retired head of the = Piano <BR>Department of a university which will remain nameless for obvious = reasons. &nbsp; <BR>He told me he was ready, willing, and able to write a check for = $30,000 for <BR>the new instrument. <BR>Praise be to God! <BR>We do not have room for pipes so it is going to be an electronic = instrument. <BR>We have heard the Allen R-270 and are VERY impressed. It will be = installed in <BR>September. I have insisted that the speakers be put in small chambers = and not <BR>just hung on the wall. &nbsp;It will have the bass speakers and full = antiphonal <BR>also. Father is bringing in an architect to do just that. The new = Allen will <BR>replace an old Rodgers (still working fine) that was installed when = the <BR>building was put up in 1969. <BR>I hesitated to post this just after the flame war over electronic <BR>instruments. However, those of you who want to rejoice with me, please = do so. <BR>I really hate to say this but &nbsp;&nbsp;the rest of you, please keep = your comments to <BR>yourself. <BR> <BR>Tim</FONT></HTML>   --part1_71.f2f92b2.287253ab_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: More requests for things... From: "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:32:05 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ----__JNP_000_3f62.7096.563b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   re: anthem for Unity...   "Many Gifts, One Spirit" is by Allen Pote. It worked well for an ecumenical Thanksgiving service at the Cadet Chapel, West Point. The music is at the office. If you still need publisher info, please write me at yp6867@usma.edu   Pat Maimone Post Chapel, West Point III/57 hybrid ----__JNP_000_3f62.7096.563b Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Dus-ascii = http-equiv=3D3Dcontent-type> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV>re: anthem for Unity...</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&quot;Many Gifts, One Spirit&quot; is by Allen Pote.&nbsp; It worked = =3D well=3D20 for an ecumenical Thanksgiving service at the Cadet Chapel, West=3D20 Point.&nbsp;&nbsp; The music is at the office. If you still need publisher = =3D info,=3D20 please write me at <A = href=3D3D"mailto:yp6867@usma.edu">yp6867@usma.edu</A></=3D DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;Pat Maimone</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;Post Chapel, West Point </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;III/57 hybrid</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ----__JNP_000_3f62.7096.563b--   ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.  
(back) Subject: RE: New Organ-Gift to my church From: "Dan Gawthrop" <Gawthrop@dunstanhouse.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:50:11 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004E_01C10327.D2D58120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Tim,   I do most sincerely rejoice with you!   There are lots of reasons, but many of them may not be mentioned here...   Rejoice in His goodness!     The Ever Errordite Dan Gawthrop   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004E_01C10327.D2D58120 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Dwindows-1252" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D770374722-02072001>Tim,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D770374722-02072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D770374722-02072001>I do=3D20 most sincerely rejoice with you! </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D770374722-02072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D770374722-02072001>There=3D20 are lots of reasons, but many of them may not be mentioned=3D20 here...</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D770374722-02072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D770374722-02072001>Rejoice in His goodness!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D770374722-02072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D770374722-02072001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D770374722-02072001>The=3D20 Ever Errordite</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D770374722-02072001>Dan=3D20 Gawthrop</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004E_01C10327.D2D58120--    
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 19:10:22 -0500   I like your music, but I do not like what you are doing here. Please = consider transferring all this enthusiasm to pipe organs. Ours last for centuries. Roy Redman   Dan Gawthrop wrote:   > > I was going through all my Rodgers brochures > > and papers, and I found the most recent brochure. > > Here's the direct quote.......... > > > ...We support every instrument we have > > ever built and are committed to continuing our > > excellent record of reliability and service. > > But, Carlo, what does this mean? It surely does NOT mean that they = maintain > parts for every organ, since we've already had testimony to the = contrary. > Remember?: "To my knowledge, there are no Rodgers MIDI adapters being > stocked for organs built between roughly 1985 & 1991 when the company = went > digital. There are no rectangular power switches available for these = models > so you have to uses a more expensive adapter kit to install a different > power switch. There are no antiphonal adapters available for any analog > organ built > that did not have one built as standard equipment. There are numerous = models > where original memory chips are not available. Some of these have = adapter > circuits that make them work with newer chips, at a much higher price." > ...and so forth. > > Clearly, they do NOT match Allen's guarantee, regardless of what their > brochure says. > > > Like I said, I don't swing towards any particular company, > > but I felt the need to post this, so some people will realize > > that Allen isn't the only company to have certain guarantees. > > Unfortunately (for Rodgers) this comparison doesn't make them look very = good > at all. Their words are a bit vague and, as we've seen above, don't seem = to > mean much to a customer with a problem. > > Dan Gawthrop > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Dan's Errors From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:07:40 +0800   The discussion was about the Hammond organ with tone wheel generators and drawbars I believe. It may have been the Solovox that the other poster was referring to when he claimed 1928 as the date of the Hammond. The date I gave as 1935 was certainly the Hammond organ not the Solovox. Bob Elms.   DEMPAR1@aol.com wrote:   > I have copies of Ryder's antique radio diagrams going back to around = 1927. In the 1929 issue, there is a diagram for the Hammond Solovox, a = keyboard, with vacuum tube oscillator generated organ like tones, that = could be strapped under a piano keyboard.    
(back) Subject: RE: Rodgers From: "Dan Gawthrop" <Gawthrop@dunstanhouse.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 20:17:07 -0400   > I like your music, but I do not like what you > are doing here. Please consider transferring > all this enthusiasm to pipe organs. Ours last > for centuries. > Roy Redman   In deference to the requests of Administration I am going to reply to this privately rather than on the list. List members who are interested may ask me (privately) to see my response.   The Errordite Dan Gawthrop    
(back) Subject: Re: Alternatives to Bach d minor (mit BWV numbers) From: "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 21:01:02 -0400   Dear Bill and Pipechatters,   Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:12: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@msn.com> wrote: > I, and I am sure others would also appreciate those BWG and or Peters Numbers. >Bill   On the 25th of June, Sebastian Gluck (TubaMagna@aol.com) had said: >> There is ANOTHER d minor, I believe with the Prelude for manuals >> only, with a very passionate fugue (which also appears in the literature as a >>violin work), which is a great piece to learn, and there is a beautiful   >> Prelude and Fugue in A Major, with opportunities for very beautiful interpretation. >> These two sorely overlooked works are indeed rarely played. <snip> After some research... The D Minor Prelude and Fugue ("Fiddle" Fugue) mentioned last week bear the BWV (Bach Werke Verzeichnis .. Bach Work Number) 539.. The Wolfgang Schmieder book says that the work is contained in Peters Edition Bach Orgelwerke III p. 42. An A Major Prelude and Fugue is listed as BWV 536 and Peters II, p. 14. Cheers from the very temperate Hudson Valley 70+ degrees and no humidity for the thousands of folks visiting West Point today..   Pat Maimone ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Re: Dan's Errors From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:42:15 -0700 (PDT)   DEMPARI@aol.com:   The reason I knew about the 1935 advertisment was because I happened to be looking through the 1935 volume of Diapasons at the library recently and saw it.   I thought you might be interested to know that a few years ago, I was servicing an organ in a church that was having a garage sale. There on one of the tables was a genuine Hammond clock. I bought it for fifty cents.   D. Keith Morgan --- DEMPAR1@aol.com wrote: > >Dear Douglas, > That advertisement that must have been about the > time of the patenting > by Laurens Hammond and must have been one of the > first adverts of the > instrument. > I happen to know the date as 1935 < > > I have copies of Ryder's antique radio diagrams > going back to around 1927. In the 1929 issue, there > is a diagram for the Hammond Solovox, a keyboard, > with vacuum tube oscillator generated organ like > tones, that could be strapped under a piano > keyboard. I understand that Hammond also was making > theramins and clocks prior to 1935. My father had a > Hammond clock that he got around 1932. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: rebuild From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 20:55:56 -0500   HI list, Howell Pipe Organs from Sterling, Illinois has recently installed the rebuild of Henry Pilcher's Sons Pipe Organ from 1922 back to the parish of St. John's Catholic Church of Bradford, Illinois. The tubular pneumatic action of the organ was in disrepair for over 30 years and was discarded for Electro mechanical action. Pipe work was revoiced and an 8' voix celeste, 4' octave and an 8' Geiske trumpet were added. The organ was first heard after the installation on June 17th. for the celebration of the 125th . anniversary of the parish. It is wonderful to hear this instrument sing again after being silent since the early 1970's. A recital will be played on this organ by Gary Black from Bradford, Illinois in the Fall of this year.    
(back) Subject: Re: information needed From: "douglas morgan" <dkmorgan76209@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:11:29 -0700 (PDT)   Dear Mr. Rickets:   Actually, this doesn't have anything to do with your request for information (which I'm sorry not to have), but do yoy know Edward M. Stout's E-mail address?   If you have it, would you be kind enough to send it to me?   Thanks.   D. Keith Morgan   --- Blaine Ricketts <blaineri@home.com> wrote: > Try (860) 442-8412 > > PEsch8@aol.com wrote: > > > > Does anyone know of the McNeely pipe organ company > in Waterford, Ct. > > They are > > not listed in the phone book. > > Thanks in advance, > > Paul Eschenauer > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Looking for........ From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 21:15:54 -0500   HI BOB, I have info. for you on the Road To Mandalay. Private me back on this. Bach150@hotmail.com bye now     ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob North <bnorth@intergate.ca> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: Looking for........     > AT family gatherings years ago, we would stand around the piano and sing > the 'old' songs, one of which was "On the Road to Mandalay" . This was > written by Rudyard Kipling with music by Oley Speaks. I recently went > through some old music I had stored and found just the cover sheet for that > song, all the other sheets have gone missing. Does anyone know where one > might find a copy of such an old song? Any help > appreciated.............Regards..............Bob > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Please FLUSH after use... From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:23:25 EDT   Most of us did not sign up on this list in order to be treated to a = bantering barrage of pointless subjects. This is most aggravating when its origins = lie in the few, but seemingly omnipresent, sanctimonious omniscients, frothing = at the mouth with bitter opinions dubious amongst the musical cogniscenti. These same handful of folks attempt to diffuse their attacks by the = addendum of a self-depricating valediction, a sophomoric stunt which fools not a single reader. The entire population of this chat list, INCLUDING the perpetrators, are actually too intelligent for that type of embarrassing behavior.   Public announcements of private reprisals, with offers to share private emails upon request, are inexcusable. Now, let us see, weren't we discussing why no young people want to be organists? Could it be that they are terrified of being subjected to that =   type of treatment? Or worse yet, afraid that they might BECOME that way? =   Let's get on with some intelligent discussion here, with no more threats = of "don't respond to this if you disagree." Pre-censoring your colleagues = after you've made a very, very questionable statement is the WRONG thing to do right before Independence Day.   SMG